Since nobody actually reads the linked article, here you go.
>Annie Altman has accused her brother of sexually abusing and raping her at various times between 1997 and 2006 at the family home in suburban Clayton, Missouri. She said the abuse began when she was three and he was 12. Sam Altman is now 40. On March 20, U.S. District Judge Zachary Bluestone in St. Louis said Annie Altman's standalone sexual assault and sexual battery claims expired in 2008, but the Missouri statute let some accusers sue over alleged abuse from long ago.
So the sexual assault claim expired 18 years ago. Annie Altman was about 14 years old then, so it is understandable why she might not have lodged criminal complaints at that time. Her only recourse at the moment is a civil suit, which is what has been filed.
I have no idea about the veracity of the claims, but for everyone saying 'She is suing, so obviously she is just after the money', that's literally all that she can do at this point of time.
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monkey_gamer3 days ago
+575
Thank you, excellent summary
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Braided_Marxist3 days ago
+322
Also he was 21 in 2006 if my math is right. Which when put squarely, only makes it 1000x more fucked
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ClickAndClackTheTap3 days ago
+7
He raped a 3 - 12 yo. Gross.
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OddAdhesiveness84853 days ago
+575
She apparently originally filed before ChatGPT was a thing so it’s not about him becoming rich and famous
Edit: Annie Altman, the sister of OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, first went public with allegations of abuse against him in 2021, which was before ChatGPT was released (November 2022).
She went public with claims prior but did not file a lawsuit prior
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arightgoodworkman3 days ago
+222
I maintain that almost no woman wants to be the subject of a sexual abuse trial (especially based on how horribly we treat women who speak up) for money. It’s not a good trade off. Survivors of sexual abuse are ridiculed in our society. Those trials are long and terrible. She comes from an accomplished upper middle class family. Doubt she needs the money and doubt she’d pursue this for that.
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Snowwolf2473 days ago
+51
Plus most of the time the rapist gets away with it anyway. Clearance Thomas, Kavaugnah, F****** Trump. Just to name a few.
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sephjnr3 days ago
+1
I have clearance, Clarence.
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OddAdhesiveness84853 days ago
+50
I 100% agree with you and that’s why I’m coming out strong batting for her defense bc Im pretty sure she doesn’t want to be here… she didn’t want to be there in the past either… and everyone is going to treat her like she’s on some game when I’m sure it’s been one long never ending nightmare and that’s how victims are treated… revictimized over and over again…
And I think she’s amazing bc Sam Altman has a lot of power and influence now and she is doing what she feels like she probably feels she has to protect others… I wish her well
I don’t know what’s going on but her journey it’s not easy and nobody would choose it
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DustShallEatTheDays3 days ago
+5
Not to mention, Farrow’s recent profile of Altman reveals him to be both manipulative and extremely charismatic. I certainly don’t think it’s a stretch that he has also manipulated his parents into protecting him and maligning his sister.
I’m sure she DOES have mental health issues. And probably substance abuse issues. But neither has any bearing on her testimony as a witness unless a pattern of her fabricating childhood events can be proven, and I’ve never even seen hints to suggest that she’s made any other claims that were provably false.
There’s a suggestion that she only recovered these memories in adulthood, but that’s not necessarily evidence of fabrication. Memories of traumatic experiences can resurface decades after the abuse.
As an example, I have a diagnosis of CPTSD (from a licensed therapist). I didn’t experience anything extreme and had all my physical needs met as a child. And yet, many memories of my childhood were only accessible to me as I became an adult and finally started to feel safe enough in my mind and body to process them.
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arightgoodworkman3 days ago
+1
Reading the Farrow profile now. Jfc.
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jizzlevania3 days ago
+119
He doesn't even get paid by OpenAi because he was already loaded. He was a billionaire without chatgpt.
That doesnt invalidate her claim, its just simply a lie to imply his wealth came from chatgpt.
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OddAdhesiveness84853 days ago
+31
My point is a lot of people think famous wealthy men are targets for blackmail but he wasn’t famous at the time… maybe wealthy but being famous makes you much more concerned about public image… that’s my point… you can just erase that from the equation… so I think it makes the claims more valid that it was prior to ChatGPT from the standpoint that people use to defend wealthy famous men
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gunner1273 days ago
+45
He was the head of Y Combinator. He was already rich.
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coldrolledpotmetal3 days ago
+19
The lawsuit was filed in January 2025, way after ChatGPT came out
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OddAdhesiveness84853 days ago
+19
Annie Altman, the sister of OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, first went public with allegations of abuse against him in 2021, which was before ChatGPT was released (November 2022).
She went public with claims prior
I did misspeak
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GunFodder3 days ago
+12
Stupid Google is failing me (big surprise).
Can you tell me whenabouts she first filed her lawsuit?
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lwb03dc3 days ago
+28
All I know about this case is literally from this article :)
But google tells me that the [original complaint was filed on 6th January 2025](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25481571-ann-altman-vs-sam-altman-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-complaint). This was challenged and partially dismissed based on the expiration of the sexual assault statute, which is why she had to file an amended suit in 2026.
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GunFodder3 days ago
+2
Got ya, that's what I found as well. The person I was replying to indicated she'd filed suit "before chapgpt was a thing", but chapgpt was very much already taking off by January 2025.
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shubhamcheema3 days ago
+3
That’s what I remember as well. I heard about this before chatGPT was launched, but weirdly I’m having trouble finding anything from that time. 🤔
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shindig03 days ago
+64
Virginias law should really be passed because there should not be an ‘expiration date’ on this sort of thing
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AccomplishedLeave5063 days ago
+11
It's a difficult one though. I fully understand why a child might take 30 years to come forward and start legal action. They deserve their chance to get justice.
But at the same time, imagine you are genuinely an innocent person and someone accused you of this and said it happened 30 years ago. It's much harder to defend. It was on a weekend? Ok. Which weekend? How can you prove you were at a mates that weekend in another state etc.
I can see why you would have statutes of limitations. I'm not sure they're a good thing, but I understand the reason.
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1337af3 days ago
+1
>But at the same time, imagine you are genuinely an innocent person and someone accused you of this and said it happened 30 years ago. It's much harder to defend. It was on a weekend? Ok. Which weekend? How can you prove you were at a mates that weekend in another state etc.
None of that is relevant in the US justice system. The prosecutor holds the burden of proof as to whether the accused committed the crime; they are innocent until proven guilty. The accused can literally say nothing and avoid all consequence if there is not proof beyond a reasonable doubt that a crime was committed, which there almost never is in sexual assault cases by their very nature, not to mention ones that happened decades ago.
In your scenario, a guy in his 30s could abuse a child, and by the time the child is legally an adult, the statue of limitations would protect him for no real reason.
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Dreamsweeper3 days ago
+3
Why are they all rapist ?
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yubsnubs3 days ago
+8
Unfortunately Sam has the idiots who are loyal to him no matter what, just like Elon. Their supporters see AI as this gift to humanity and they can do no wrong. F Sam and F Elon.
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BillMurraysTesticle3 days ago
+7
It's kind of crazy that there are statute of limitations for seriously heinous crimes like r***, murder, sexual assault etc. Yeah you raped someone but 10 years has passed so the slate is wiped clean....
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ginny113 days ago
+2
Maybe I'm doing my math wrong. But if Sam Altman is 40 years old right now, he would have been Born in 1986 approximately? So 12 years old in 1998. And Annie Altman would have been 3 years old in 1998. So how did she make her first claim of abuse in 1997? She would have been 2 years old and he would have been around 11. What am I missing here?
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lwb03dc3 days ago
+1
You are reading it kinda wrong. Maybe this phrasing will help.
>Annie Altman is accusing her brother of sexual abuse. She claims that she was abused multiple times between 1997 and 2006.
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devonhezter3 days ago
+1
If he did this ,, then the whistle blower too ?
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DigbyDoesDallas3 days ago
+1
It truly is, the ones you most expect, isn’t it.
The Venn-diagram of massive perverts and billionaires is a circle, right?
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PeakQuirky843 days ago
+1
>began when she was three and he was 12.
What. The. F***….
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xanroeld3 days ago
+1
It’s wild that this isn’t being talked about more. A Sam Altman slam piece just came out. It seems like exactly the time that more people should learn this guy is a monster.
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ask_me_about_my_band4 days ago
+989
"Sam Altman is a psychopath "
Aaron Swartz - just before his death
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Death_Sheep19803 days ago
+52
The New Yorker did a recent piece on OpenAI and Sam Altman, which has this incredible quote from an anonymous OpenAI board member: "\[Sam Altman has\] two traits that are almost never seen in the same person. The first is a strong desire to please people, to be liked in any given interaction. The second is almost a sociopathic lack of concern for the consequences that may come from deceiving someone.”
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zapporian3 days ago
+1
Funny enough that also pretty perfectly describes most iterations of chatgpt’s “personality” and (pretty clearly self evident) reinforcement learning priorities lol
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CCLF3 days ago
+448
"Sociopath" is what he said. The difference is meaningful but no less concerning.
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kvlt_ov_personality3 days ago
+53
Yeah.... probably more concerning. At least "psychopath" could either be construed as a compliment or playful joke.
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OffSeer3 days ago
+19
A lot of CEO’s have sociopathic tendencies and are rated on the Dark Triad scale.
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ratherenjoysbass3 days ago
+8
Well sociopath is now the term for the dark triangle traits and was replaced by Machiavellian/ASPD on the triangle itself.
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Whitworth_733 days ago
+5
A lot of Stanford tech guys too. Thiel, Karp, Suermondt.
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playfulmessenger3 days ago
+23
As much as I am all for accurate quoting, I am also for accurate titles and pedantry compels me to add the context that there is no longer a sociopath designation, it's all just a psychopath spectrum now.
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apophis-pegasus3 days ago
+3
Meaningful how?
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YSoMadTov3 days ago
+106
There’s something wrong with the way we organize society when hierarchy favor sociopaths at the top.
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poison_us3 days ago
+28
Capitalism, baby!
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YSoMadTov3 days ago
+36
It’s not strictly a capitalism thing, throughout history no matter the regime, the top has always favored ruthless and power hungry people.
In Communist Russia and China, for example, all of their leaders have heavily displayed psychopathic traits, Mikhail Gorbachev is probably the only exception.
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SeriousMite3 days ago
+19
I think humans have a flaw where we tend to gravitate to confident people for leadership, and sociopaths and narcissists tend to be the most confident in themselves out of anybody.
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dapperdave3 days ago
+2
That's just what hierarchies are, my friend.
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ThyNynax3 days ago
+2
It’s not the organization as much as it’s the cultural obsession with confidence. A sociopath or psychopath can walk into a room with a massive amount of confidence and then have no qualms about emotionally manipulating the room to get everyone to believe they’ve got all the answers.
People love a dude with confidence, *especially* if he’s already financially successful, and *especially* if he is attractive and dresses well. They’ll say he’s a natural leader and will sign their souls away for the chance to follow. Takes a few weeks or months before they start to see the under the mask and find they’ve sided with the devil.
It’s a cycle that has happened and will keep happening again and again and again. As long as culture has this obsession with trusting people *because* they are confident.
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YSoMadTov3 days ago
+2
I think it also has to do with humans by nature are lazy and are inclined to let others do the thinking for them.
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secretlyhumanami3 days ago
+66
Most CEOs are. You can almost correlate psychopathy+intelligence to success.
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Lonely_Noyaaa4 days ago
+1850
Annie Altman has been making these allegations publicly since 2021, years before Sam Altman became one of the most recognizable people on the planet. That timeline matters when you're trying to figure out what this lawsuit is actually about.
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sn0r4 days ago
+133
Sad, yes. Shocking? Hardly.
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amodelsino4 days ago
+56
I mean, is it? Anyone can be accused of anything. I believe these allegations are most likely true, and I hate Sam Altman even without them, but we don't actually know that he did any of that. Someone doesn't even have to be lying to falsely accuse someone, they could just be mentally unwell or their memory can be wrong. That's why we have a legal system instead of just locking people in jail the moment someone says they did something.
Do you think you should be banned from having an occupation the moment you're accused of something serious enough? Like if I knew you, and decided for whatever reason I was going to accuse you of kidnapping and raping me 10 years ago do you think you should now be social pariah and made homeless, not allowed to engage in normal society and economic activity? Like, Sam Altman isn't famous because he's a politician even, you're saying it's a mistake that our system allows someone accused of something to become rich. That it's a travesty he was allowed to continue doing business.
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Impertinent4 days ago
+28
The point is that a man has a known history of his first company being a big investment scam AND pending sexual assault allegations from his own sister, and American society props him up as a genius and showers investment funds on him. That nothing matters to the rich except your ability to make them even more rich. Would you loan your friend who is accused of f****** his cousin and bankrupted his first business billions of dollars, or would you wanna maybe not give that man that much power? Nah, let’s give him billions and let him start influencing politics, what could go wrong.
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NappyFlickz4 days ago
+12
Not to mention that evidence still indicates he directly had an OpenAI whistleblower assassinated.
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mateushkush4 days ago
It could also be interpreted differently, as a rich successful guy being sued for many. I’m pretty sure he is a terrible person, but even the article by Ronan Farrow had no proofs of that or any other sexual abuse by him.
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Impertinent3 days ago
+3
The way he handled his first business alone should make him be a non-starter for lending for his 2nd. It’s just multiple examples of how society keeps rewarding sociopathic narcissists because it turns out that having no morals or concern for anyone else really predisposes you to making profits. Who cares if they’re f****** their siblings, look at the the stock prices peopleeeeee? Then when it becomes undeniable they’re horrible monsters, they have so much money and power that no consequences ever stick, or their empires are so big that taking them down would destroy giant swathes of the economy.
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T_Weezy3 days ago
+1
I would argue that it's a mistake that our system allows *anyone* to become the kind of rich that Sam Altman is.
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ifYouWantMyLuv3 days ago
+10
I feel almost the opposite. If you really are ruthless enough to hoard that level of wealth, chances are you also hurt people in more direct ways. I may be biased against the rich but there seem like infinite examples that show the immorality of the wealthy
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rclonecopymove4 days ago
+10
>What's crazy is that he became famous with these allegations against him. That is a serious indictment against our system.
There is so much wrong with those two sentences.
What has his fame or notoriety got to do with any of this it should be completely immaterial. Allegations, nothing proven, and not exactly a unique set of circumstances either. Do you have any evidence that he is guilty of what she claims?
And I write that as someone who has little to no respect for that man.
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BlueLizardSpaceship4 days ago
+17
Being accused is not the same as being guilty. I want to know what has or has not been done to find out if the accusation is merited or not. Is this a systematic failure of a justice system steeped in r*** culture? Or is it a sibling with issues?
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kimbosliceofcake4 days ago
+14
Right, I have a cousin with a lot of mental health issues that has accused many men of r***, including my brother-in-law who she had never met in person. Thankfully she seems to have gotten some help and medication in the last few years and is a lot more stable.
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johnthughes4 days ago
+6
He effectively raped the Internet.
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Birdman9154 days ago
+2
I can only assume because everyone was thinking "but what about money and convenience?" and just went along.
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randomredditor5753 days ago
+2
Have you seen the president of that country
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InnerWrathChild3 days ago
+3
There’s a certain president of the United States that would like a word.
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rgumai3 days ago
+341
He was a borderline billionaire investor in 2021. Most of his fortune was made independent of OpenAI.
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ZZ9ZA4 days ago
+227
Sam Altman was already a billionaire venture capitalist in 2021.
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EpicPhail603 days ago
+61
I read it a while ago so I can't speak with certainty, but from what I recall their whole family's always been well off, but this sister in particular's been ostracized and cut off for embarrassing the family name and all that (and not just with respect to the lawsuit).
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PeeDecanter3 days ago
+133
Their dad sided with her before his death
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Crow_away_cawcaw3 days ago
+25
Well billionaires often turn out to be rapists so it tracks
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peatoast3 days ago
+22
Fun fact: he used to be listnook’s CEO! He’s been wel known in certain spaces like tech for quite a while.
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Disastrous-Angle-5913 days ago
+27
99% of the planet would have no clue who this guy is.
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OneTabbyBraincell3 days ago
+1
Anyone who thinks a woman would put herself through a r*** trial for money, needs their head read.
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azurepandora4 days ago
+639
Her "mental illness/issues" could very well be the result of SA.
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birdsofpaper3 days ago
+264
Truth. And it’s the oldest playbook with a situation like this to call the victim “crazy”.
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Samanthacino3 days ago
+23
Also, Sam Altman, the man who lies more than he breathes, is the primary one slandering her as an insane sister with mental issues.
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birdsofpaper3 days ago
+7
And he’d have absolutely no reason to say that. None at all. No vested interest in that narrative.
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Ancient-Bat17553 days ago
+106
All my crazy aunts that everyone hates (and each other) because they ruined the family with bipolar disorder… is due to SA assault from their father. My uncle is dead/suicided schitzo (Cant spell it), most likely from SA.
They hated my father for kicking their dad out of the house when he was came back home at 18 (ran away at 16) for breaking up the family, took like a decade or two before people would talk to him, even some of the sa victims.
So i say there is more than a 0% chance she was assaulted, but its also something that could be false. Not my case, but I can support her efforts and listen either way, she needs mental help.
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Equivalent-Agency-483 days ago
+26
Weird, I have an aunt who is framed as crazy but I fugured out later she accused my Grandpa of SA. My grandpa was a narcissitic a****** so it wouldn't shock me
crazy how its a similar story tho
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TheMoogster3 days ago
+23
Yes, they could, OR literally anything else in the world that can cause mental illness...
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Whitewind6173 days ago
+23
I mean, we didn't say this when the same thing happened to Adam Savage, just saying. And just like in that case, the entire family agrees she has mental health struggles and always has.
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Phenogenesis-3 days ago
+63
Someone who was sexually assaulted at 3 is always going to be seen as 'always having mental health struggles'.
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tyrannosiris3 days ago
+17
People with mental health issues and disabilities are more likely to be victims because their perpetrators know that people will be less inclined to believe their stories.
I don't talk to my family, who tell people the estrangement is due to mental health struggles. They're not wrong, and mental health conditions aren't anything to be ashamed about, but it would be a more honest interpretation of reality if they would also acknowledge the abuse and neglect that contributed to those mental health issues. Unfortunately, families do come together to protect abusers much more often than most people would think.
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FetusDrive3 days ago
+15
We don’t say that about Adam savage because I don’t know who that is
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Mralexs3 days ago
+22
One of the guys from Mythbusters
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ministryofchampagne3 days ago
+10
Specifically the one without the big mustache and beret.
Adam savage now also runs a YouTube channel and a company called Tested.
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Teantis3 days ago
+3
Despite now being able to picture who he is, I'm still unclear on whether Adam savage was the abused one or the abuser
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ministryofchampagne3 days ago
+14
His sister accused him of abuse when they were kids.
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StretchExtension4 days ago
+132
The Black SUVs moved pretty quickly with this one
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+13
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Tyrrox4 days ago
+17
That is actually an important rule, because it's a news sub for posting news, not your take on the news. The comments are for opinions the post is for the article.
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progrethth3 days ago
+83
It is always the ones you expect the most.
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MoonageDayscream4 days ago
+505
"The Altman family has said Annie Altman has mental health challenges."
Typical. Blame the victim, because we all know being abused in a family that would cover it up isn't a main source of "difficulty" in teens. Or that abusers naturally avoid harming the easily isolated ones.
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Swook-y4 days ago
+211
Well yeah, victims of childhood sexual assault usually do suffer from mental health challenges, so not really the winning argument they think it is.
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MoonageDayscream4 days ago
+86
For decades it has been a way to get these cases taken care of quietly. The victim is threatened with character assassination and a hand slap is arranged for the offender. It's a deal made in private offices and then signed by a judge that wants to at least get something decided. That is how Epstein got a single charge of solicitation when they had over 40 credible accusers ready to testify.
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Swook-y4 days ago
+20
Oh no I fully understand, just was saying that CSA often ends in mental health issues and that hopefully with our improved societal understanding of mental health it will be seen as evidence for rather than against.
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MoonageDayscream4 days ago
+10
Yeah, no I hear you. but when I hear that dismissive claim from family that the accuser was always a problem all I hear is that a vulnerable person is trying to be heard and the ones closest are not listening. You can pretty much tell from the posturing of the attorneys how credible the accusations are. There was a time when certain abusive types felt comfortable targeting the ones on the margins because who believes a (insert stereotype) over the word of that fine young man/prominent community member? I celebrate that changing.
But we are getting ahead of ourselves, it has not gone to trial yet.
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Malforus3 days ago
+64
Yup not like a fucked home life and SA wouldn't give you issues.
The minimum proof here is that his sister and him experienced very different childhoods and Sam's family clearly gave up on her.
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Birdman9154 days ago
+38
Maybe they've learned from the Kennedy family.
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ForumFluffy3 days ago
+19
I know a guy that molested and raped his sister, she has had mental health issues stemming from it but her family just decided to get him therapy instead and brush it under the rug. I'm inclined to believe her especially since Sam is such a b****** person this isn't surprising behaviour.
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TheMoogster3 days ago
+46
So what she says is the truth, and what they say is false?
How are you able to tell?
Any bias in you anywhere?...
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fleemfleemfleemfleem3 days ago
+3
This is more or less exactly how Adam Savage's family handled the accusations from his sister.
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OwnerOfABouncyBall3 days ago
+31
Are all billionaires sick fucks?
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the-awesomer3 days ago
+17
always have been
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BossCrayfish8803 days ago
+1
George Lucas might be the only one who isn’t (as far as I know)
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Spiritual_Smile98823 days ago
+65
literally ALL of these Tech CEO's are absolute monsters of human beings.
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Show_Me_Your_Cubes3 days ago
+22
Sadly that's what it takes to be a billionaire: absolutely no empathy or care for other humans. And we as a society reward that.
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FizzTheWiz3 days ago
+1
Not Dario, he's our only shot at having a good one leas the way here
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Ninja-Ginge3 days ago
+4
Bringing up Autism as a possible explanation in the context of someone (allegedly) having raped their 3-year-old sister is insulting. THAT'S why you're catching so much shit.
You clearly do not know anything about Autism other than the insulting stereotypes. Tech CEOs aren't assholes because of Autism. The vast majority of Autistic people are not like that. Many Autistic people actually struggle with hyperempathy.
Autistic people are absolutely capable of being assholes, but when that happens, it's because they're an a******, not because they're Autistic.
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RespecDawn3 days ago
+5
Please cite your sources.
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CrazFight3 days ago
+43
I love how everyone in this chat somehow with godly powers knows that Altman is either guilty or innocent.
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Braided_Marxist3 days ago
+40
Almost like when you’re a scumbag in other respects, you get less of the benefit of the doubt
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ginny113 days ago
+3
I see a lot of people saying he must be guilty. I see zero people saying he is definitely innocent. I do see a lot of people saying that we shouldn't believe someone's guilty simply because of an accusation and zero other evidence.
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BowsettesBottomBitch3 days ago
+12
This dude has always gave me the fuckin creeps. They way he talks, his whole body language.. I'm just saying, don't leave an open drink unattended near him
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OneTabbyBraincell3 days ago
+1
I joked in another story this guy always looks like someone who's been forced to front the press after being caught exposing himself to minors, and then a couple of hours later I read this story.
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Aggravating-Mine-6973 days ago
+2
Sadly it was so long ago, I don't think they can do much about it
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yes_u_suckk3 days ago
+3
As much as I hate this guy, his sister apparently has a mental disorder and has made similar false claims against other people.
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nohorsesjustangels3 days ago
+9
Obligatory reminder that over 98% of r*** allegations are true and yet less than 5% of rapists ever get prosecuted. There is no epidemic of false allegations and there never haa been. Your average man is infinitely more likely to be raped himself (something like 1 in 5) than to be falsely accused of r***.
The vast majority of sexual abuse (upwards of 90%) is commited by someone the victim knows, most commonly a relative or family friend. COCSA (child on child sexual abuse) is depressingly common, the child perpetrator has usually been abused themselves and is repeating learned behaviours. It is also common for families to turn on victims and protect abusers. Trauma induced mental illness caused by abuse is often levied as proof the victim is insane, hysterical and unreliable, especially if the victim is female.
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nothingInteresting3 days ago
+64
I want to be very clear that I'm not claiming most women are making false allegations. I believe all r*** allegations should be taken seriously and investigated correctly. But I also need to point out that the 98% of r*** allegations is true is a misleading statistic.
With r*** allegations, you have 3 buckets.
* Provably True (5%-10%)
* Provably False (2%-10%)
* Inconclusive (88% - 93%) \*using the 2% provably false
The problem with r*** allegations is it's really rare for them to be provably true or provably false because you're trying to prove the action took place, and also that consent was not given in the moment.
To be provably false, the accuser has to admit they were lying, or evidence has to be enough that it's proven conclusively that the accuser lied. It makes sense why this would be pretty rare.
It seems misleading to say that the entire Inconclusive bucket are all true, when they often don't have enough evidence to be proven definitively either way. Now i'd assume that the majority of the inconclusive bucket are true. You could say that 80% of them are true, but that would still leave 20% of that bucket that wasn't. That would mean the r*** allegations that are true are 10% (provably true) + 70.4% (80% of the inconclusive bucket) which would leave 19% as false (I'm using the 2% provably false to be conservative).
I'm not claiming that these numbers are accurate either. We legit don't know what % of the inconclusive bucket is true or false. I'm just trying to explain why the 98% being true is likely misleading.
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Chemengineer_DB3 days ago
+6
Good breakdown.
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friendlyfernando3 days ago
+5
Wow making up statistics now are we
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Eradomsk3 days ago
+18
People parrot these stats like they are meaningful in the slightest. Some of those things cannot remotely be accurately measured. And it totally denies the reality that false accusations *do* happen. You can literally speak to any single person working in the criminal jury system in any country to know that it does.
You also don’t speak at all about the issue of reliability. A complainant can be wrong, particularly when something happened when they were a 3 year old, without lying. There are many instances where a “repressed memory” brought out by therapy about something at a young age in fact did not happen.
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MaleficentMotor10023 days ago
+5
>Obligatory reminder that over 98% of r*** allegations are true and yet less than 5% of rapists ever get prosecuted.
Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence
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sirbassist833 days ago
+2
they really are all the same, huh?
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londoner4life3 days ago
+2
It’s always the people you most expect.
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EVH_kit_guy3 days ago
+2
Guys don't worry, he's going to build a Dyson Sphere to power his LLM, it's all good, nothing to worry about....
https://youtu.be/fLzEX1TPBFM?si=OGu-tD012GSQy3ZG
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Worldly_Anybody_92193 days ago
+2
I believe his sister. I have a family member who is a therapist who often works with victims, and as crazy as it is to believe, whole families often cover up for the perpetrator, especially if the the perpetrator was young at the time. Their logic goes something like this: "he was young at the time; he didn't really know what he was doing; he's changed," yadda yadda (they don't change and often go on to harm others).
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GuodNossis3 days ago
+1
Where was this filed? I see nothing in state or federal Court records in MO
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reiakari3 days ago
+2
Altman v. Altman (4:25-cv-00017), it was in district court in St Louis.
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Leading_Discount3 days ago
+2
Makes sense why this dude keeps pushing AI on population who've repeatedly said "No, we don't want this"
Homie still doesn't have empathy enough to give a f*** about anyone other than himself, or understand consent at 40.
I believe this would suggest this Missouri born Billionaire CEO was likely unaware of consent at 12 years of age, as well.
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phredbull3 days ago
+3
I don't see a populace saying "no we don't want this" I think I see a lot more of people trying to use it in cases where they clearly shouldn't.
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psychedelicdevilry3 days ago
+1
Jfc this guy is a piece of shit
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Enough-Mud31163 days ago
+1
Least likable person. Basically hijacked the work of programmers like Ilya Sutskever etc and then made it a for profit. Big scammer.
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Ar_Ciel3 days ago
+1
It's always back to the r*** with these people.
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lewd_bingo3 days ago
-3
Weird if I type Sam Altman in google news there's not one single headline about any SA. It should be all over the news like the majority of headlines. I hope this gains some traction and he loses everything
-3
turbo_sr3 days ago
+6
Funny its the first thing that pops up when I google it
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