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News & Current Events May 8, 2026 at 5:07 AM

Samsung chip workers reject $340,000 one-time bonus, demand annual payouts like SK hynix's $900,000 — workers want share of AI windfall, impending 18-day strike could cost Samsung up to $11.7 billion

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Samsung chip workers reject $340,000 one-time bonus, demand annual payouts like SK hynix's $900,000 — workers want share of AI windfall, impending 18-day strike could cost Samsung up to $11.7 billion
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Samsung chip workers reject $340,000 one-time bonus, demand annual payouts like SK hynix's $900,000 — workers want share of AI windfall, impending 18-day strike could cost Samsung up to $11.7 billion
Samsung semiconductor workers want a bigger slice of the AI pie.

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Sersch 5 days ago +1333
Is every single worker getting an annual bonus of 900k$ ???
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self-fix2 5 days ago +1545
Yes. Hynix workers got paid 477K USD in bonuses this year. 900K next year. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/sk-hynix-employees-could-receive-447000-bonuses-this-year
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ittrut 5 days ago +961
Dear lord thats incredible
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TheDreadfulSagittary 5 days ago +906
The SK Hynix employees in the past got their bonuses set as being a percentage of the operating profit. Now that profit is sky high due to insane RAM demand, they get those rewards.
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vmachiel 5 days ago +640
As it should be
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Few_Olive_4113 5 days ago +258
Yeah, those numbers are wild, but they actually make sense in context of how these companies structured profit‑sharing and how insane AI‑driven memory demand is right now. SK hynix literally removed its bonus cap and hard‑coded “10% of operating profit goes to employees” into their scheme, so when profits go vertical, individual payouts do too. Samsung’s union is basically looking at that, looking at Samsung’s own AI windfall, and saying “we don’t want a flashy one‑off cheque, we want the same structural claim on future profit.”
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Bman4k1 4 days ago +20
Ah I worked for a company that had 10% hard coded but it went into our retirement fund. You all share in both the ups and downs.
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Smythe28 4 days ago +19
Our company looked at the ai boom and the profits with it and went “oh awesome, you’re all layed off”
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BreakingStar_Games 5 days ago +319
Imagine if every corporation was a coop owned equally by every employee - democratization of the workplace. They all have equal vote in the business plan, how profit is split between wages, bonuses and reinvestment. There wouldn't be Elon Musks of the world who exploit labor, get insanely wealthy then use it to corrupt our political democracy
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mata_dan 5 days ago +78
They also won't be able to, or rather will have no incentive to, pretend the company is actually leasing its IP and facilities at a loss from a parent company in an overseas tax haven and making no profits and claiming grants. Although it seems South Korea doesn't have this "totally unavoidable international problem pinky promise" anyway.
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Cedex 5 days ago +19
If the employees get the same shares as the general public, not showing profit through funny accounting would tank the value of the shares. Or tie the stock options CEO gets to the same type of shares the employees get should suffice.
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BlingBlingBlingo 5 days ago +7
Those types of companies exist. And in some instances they work well. They just to not tend to be the flashy innovative kind of company you hear about.
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BreakingStar_Games 5 days ago +4
100% cooperatives aren't some utopian dream. In fact, they are pretty ordinary and don't feel that different from a regular job.
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Greyhound_Oisin 5 days ago +5
Dude anyone can start a co op...you can't wait for someone to gain succes and build a company to then ask him to give it away. Just build your own co-op
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MyAccountWasBanned7 5 days ago +46
You're literally describing socialism - the means of production being collectively controlled by the workers. And I think it sounds grand!
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BreakingStar_Games 5 days ago +23
Yeah, I hated my "idea" of socialism (as a born and bred American who basically conflated it with communism). When I realized that market socialism with worker ownership and a UBI basically removes all the pain points of relying on a government to guide a Command Economy. You end up with a freer market, the end of worker exploitation, people free of poverty, end of cronyism through concentrated economic power and more entrepreneurship. There may be some issues like maybe we don't grow as fast as an economy, but to me it's so appealing, it's worth a shot. Maybe the happiness of the people should be the priority. Yanis Varoufakis has some ideas to make R&D on important technologies like nuclear fusion through a sovereign wealth fund work better especially in sharing findings rather than everyone reinventing the wheel fighting to be first.
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WanderingTacoShop 5 days ago +18
The tough nut to crack in this transition is building new businesses. Particularly in industries that require a lot infrastructure. Like heavy manufacturing and chip manufacturing. Someone needs to front hundreds of millions to billions of dollars to build the factory/shipyard/fabricators. all of which must be spent before there is a chance of a dime of revenue, not even profit, revenue. There's really two options, government funds it which leads to command economy. Or private capital funds it, which leads back to capitalism. I am all for profit sharing with employees being much more commonplace, or better social safety nets. Just pointing out there are some hurdles that need cleared.
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BreakingStar_Games 5 days ago +5
Yeah, that is one of my big pain points with Corporate Syndicalism. I quite like private corporations making these things more efficient when you can have a free market in place. The other is let's say somehow the US does this and because of it, we grow slower and more sustainably. We regulate AI and don't leave it to rampantly grow. But another country like China (honestly these days, the roles could be reversed and it's America pushing) decides to keep pushing growth at the harm of their people, pushing industrializing at the cost of the environment and pushing AI growth at huge risk. And because they do, they are more powerful with greater technology and greater military power to the point that Mutually Assured Destruction from nukes doesn't work as a check. Now that culture will dominate humanity. Although if everyone competes to be dominant, where do we end up: the poorest people continue to be the most exploited, climate disaster, AI threats especially around its ability to easily support biological terrorists with information.
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fiction8 5 days ago +12
Companies would also have 0 ability to raise outside capital through stock sales. No more public companies.
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WorstCPANA 5 days ago +6
Whenever I hear listnookors talk about employee owned businesses, they're always talking about businesses that have already been made and are now successful under their capitalist leadership. I'm always curious, if all businesses were employee owned, who's starting the businesses? It's never "A bunch of employees should get together, put in all their time into a company with 0 pay off for 3+ years, and a 70% chance that they go out of business in that time, and should create their own company!"
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10thDeadlySin 4 days ago +7
You might notice that the oft-repeated slogan reads 'seize the means of production' not 'let's pool our resources and establish cooperatives based on socialist principles'. I believe that slogan assumes that the workers will simply take over the existing businesses and then maybe try figuring something out. But yeah. I tried running my tiny business as a profit-sharing cooperative. Other than the usual struggles ("we have X in profits, we should probably buy that software that's 2X, we kinda need it yesterday, how much do we set aside?") it all came crashing down when COVID hit and suddenly the profits went to zero. Which led to the very same people who happily shared profits for years suddenly demanding salaries. And that was the end of my little coop. I still run that business. But now it's run as a proper business.
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KaiserNer0 5 days ago +13
1. How are companies raising money? 2. What about small businesses? 3. Why wouldn't companies simply use a second company employing the workers which generates 0 profit? and so on...
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towhopu 5 days ago +16
Careful there, buddy, what are those ideas? Are you... a COMMUNIST? 🧐
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phobiac 5 days ago +23
No this is just extreme capitalism. Make every worker a capitalist so there's even more of them. We know capitalism is unambiguously the best possible system so why not improve on it by spreading the ownership and profits out among the workers doing the labor?
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No-Kings 5 days ago +3
That form of business exists. ESOPs are great to work for.
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intashu 5 days ago +36
Every buisness should be like this. A set percent of the yearly profits a buisness makes should be distributed to the employees that make it happen. Instead of all that profit going to shareholders and at best... Employees get a pizza party if they're lucky... Doesn't make sense that when profits skyrocket and workers have to work infinitely harder that they're NOT being given even a small cut of the profit pie for the work they're directly contributing to creating. Good luck convincing "the share holders" to share the profits without a massive collective strike however. God speed Samsung employees!
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EmergencyCucumber905 4 days ago +6
Lots of US tech companies give shares (RSU or options) on top of salary and bonus. I imagine quite a few people at AMD and Intel became millionaires this week.
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Street_Anxiety2907 4 days ago +5
\> Doesn't make sense that when profits skyrocket and workers have to work infinitely harder Or like the US, where most companies profits are doubling and they are laying off half the workforce.
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Ironlion45 5 days ago +37
And if the company agreed to pay THAT, you just KNOW how filthy filthy rich the shareholders got off it. Samsung is being c****. They literally OWN Korea. They can afford it lol.
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xSinn3Dx 5 days ago +12
They do not own us!!! Checks arm... property of Samsung God Dammit!!!
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WintersDoomsday 4 days ago +4
I hope you at least got the ultra zoom camera built into your body
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JX_JR 5 days ago +120
Dear Lord you have terrible reading comprehension.  Your article says SK Hynix workers got paid $95k. It is projected that if things continue to go great they *may* get $477 at the end of this year, and $900k the following year but neither of those amounts have been paid.  Please learn the difference between past and future. 
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distinctgore 5 days ago +17
To be fair the article says they got paid 95k *in February*… which if you look at their annual average, it would probably be between 400k and 900k.
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JX_JR 5 days ago +19
That in no way justifies saying they have been paid 400k to 900k. If you look at the amount I got paid this year through February and extrapolate it to my retirement I have gotten paid millions of dollars. Am I a millionaire now? No, and it would be insanely stupid to claim I am. 
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hatemakingnames1 5 days ago +24
They hiring?
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ameza001 5 days ago +18
They get a $500 referral bonus after you've been there a year too.
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amegaproxy 5 days ago +11
That's actually kind of low
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kog 5 days ago +9
Guessing the bar is high
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momoenthusiastic 5 days ago +10
I’m in the wrong job…
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llixaa 5 days ago +4
That is unreal.
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StrangeCharmVote 5 days ago +16
> Is every single worker getting an annual bonus of 900k$ ??? That is what they are pushing for yes. Which for upto 40,000 employees would cost the company about 36 billion dollars. Considering how much profit the company had made this quarter, it's likely actually warranted. Yes, that's about equal to the companies profits, but you have to remember there's still 3:4 of the year to go, and that 900k is intended as either a one-off or annual bonus. Samsung sure as shit wont be hurting by paying it to them. The company *will* however lose a lot of money if they do not, and production grinds to a halt.
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xstorm17 5 days ago +108
unbelievable in the usa right?
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mecker-zausel 5 days ago +205
Unbelievable in Germany, too. I remember the headlines a couple years back when Porsche paid every employee from the cleaning lady to the top floor a flat one time bonus of like 10k€.
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thenamelessone7 5 days ago +39
Well, Germany doesn't have a single industry / company that profitable. You can't share the profits you don't have 😉
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telef0nmann 5 days ago +86
volkswagen managed to "find" 6 billion just to pay the managers their bonuses during one of the biggest crises for the company
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robert1005 5 days ago +23
They have many private companies that are suspected to be extremely profitable.
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thenamelessone7 5 days ago +11
Extremely profitable doesn't mean it's to the tune of additional 1 million per employee bonuses. It's typically an order of magnitude less than that
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robert1005 5 days ago +7
Well true, but you could extent that to the rest of the world. The only other instances I know of bonusses in the 100k's were stock packages for companies whose stockprice rose explosively, but not a flat cash bonus. This also made a number of senior engineers at those companies retire early, so it did backfire.
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jubbing 5 days ago +72
Um. It's unbelievable anywhere.
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xantub 5 days ago +12
I'm retired now, the biggest bonus I ever had was $300 (once), the vast majority of my bonuses were $50 in gift cards.
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Dal90 5 days ago +3
It certainly isn't common, but it does happen. From Canada a couple months ago: KKR (big private equity) sold CoolIT for 15x what they paid in 2023; employees are averaging $240,000 CAD ($175 USD). https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/cried-others-were-speechless-front-112500965.html From the US in 2022, KKR sold C.H.I. Overhead Doors and the average employee bonus was $175,000 USD. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/17/garage-door-maker-employees-get-cash-reward-in-takeover-as-private-equity-tests-ownership-model.html There are provisions in the US tax code to encourage transferring ownership to employees -- if over 30% of the ownership is moved to into an Employee Ownership Plan or Trust (same idea, different ways to implement) there are more favorable income tax treatment for the original owners. Generally how it works is the business takes out a loan, which is used to buy out the equity from the owners; usually this is done over a number of years to maximize the tax benefits. It is essentially the same financing mechanism as a Leveraged Buy Out, except the loans are used to pay to buy the stock to give to employees instead giving it to a private equity company. This is a company with ~100 stores and 1,500 employees near me that did so: https://www.sullivantire.com/blog/news-events/employee-ownership-24 Even with the tax advantage it usually isn't as lucrative as selling to private equity, so what is usually the founding owner's family has to be on board with not being completely greedy and willing to take a bit less (but still very good money).
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yaoz889 5 days ago +6
Top software companies have similar packages. Most people in Amazon, Meta, Google get 50k-200k stock a year. Sk Hynix is similar to those companies in SK
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papasmurf255 5 days ago +9
That's stock instead of cash bonus. Though if the company is pulling that much revenue the stock would rise accordingly (nvda). In tech, in a good year, you can hit mid 6 fig to 7 fig. Anthropic employees are most definitely at 7 these days.
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ahorrribledrummer 5 days ago +4
Chobani gave tons of shares to its employees after it went public. Average payout was about $100k. CEO seems to be quite the role model.
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GreenFox1505 5 days ago +3
Their bonus schedule is based on profit share percentage. It's pretty solid. When they company does well, bonuses are good. They don't need to pay as well because they bonus is part of the company contract. Recruiters have been bleeding Samsung for years with this incentive structure. Its pretty brilliant actually. 
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LostAbbott 5 days ago +3597
I mean, it makes sense.  When the company reports a nearly 50 fold increase in revenue for the quarter I can see why the employees might want some of that.  They are facing some increasing head winds, but they are also well positioned to make a lot of money off this hardware rush... https://invezz.com/news/2026/04/30/why-samsung-stock-is-falling-after-its-best-quarter-in-history/
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self-fix2 5 days ago +608
Problem with Samsung is that they make everything 'electronics', not just memory chips like SK Hynix does. Workers in the smartphone, foundry and system IC, software, and home appliance divisions are demanding the same bonus as the memory chip workers where the latter division is really earning Samsung the record-breaking profits. Speaking in the perspective of administration, you can understand why they'd be hesitant about paying the same 1 million bonus to the home appliances division, for example, when their performance is lackluster and are being pushed out by Chinese competition. The performances of each division is really case-by-case. Additionally, IF Samsung followed through with the union's demands, the bonuses would exceed the company's 2026 R&D spending. This comes when Samsung actually lost to Hynix's HBM3E market share in 2025. Samsung can withstand an 18-day strike, but the same can't be said for many of Samsung's small enterprise suppliers and partners. That said, Samsung has overtaken Hynix with HBM4 and are widening the gap, so this issue is very much more complicated than just sharing record breaking profits. The left-leaning Korean government is saying a 1 million payout for every worker is excessive, since a strike could partially erase the almost 40% year-on-year export boom that Korea's been enjoying, thanks to Hynix and Samsung. But they're also iffy about this cause they want to promote engineering disciplines over medicine and dentistry, which are currently king in Korea, and there's no better way to do this than to use Samsung as an example.
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chandr 5 days ago +63
The SK workers bonus is a fixed percentage of profits, not a flat 900k no matter what. Thats what the Samsung workers want. So it doesnt really matter if there's a bad year sometime, because if the profits are lower, then automatically so is the bonus
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External_Birthday691 5 days ago +34
Which is how it should work in capitalism. I don't understand how this is such a foreign concept to people .
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Mountain-Singer1764 5 days ago +4
Because a lot of people just get lost in adversarial thinking, and don't realise that profit-sharing incentivises workers to be more profitable. Capitalism isn't always run in the most logical and optimal way, people are emotional creatures, even the ones who try to repress their emotions.
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Legionof1 5 days ago +924
Those memory chip workers didn’t do anything special, they did their jobs and just happened to be the lucky sector. The company won, all the employees should win too.
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feibrix 5 days ago +356
Since when you share profits with the slaves? /s
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jared555 5 days ago +117
Since someone reminded management of the French revolution?
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feibrix 5 days ago +120
I just discovered that mentioning that the French expressed their feedback against management by removing the attachment between the body and the ear-holder of the management itself is considered encouraging violence by Listnook's ai. Fun times we're living in.
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Kozeyekan_ 5 days ago +51
Yes, I too had a three day ban for mentioning certain events where a Mr Gill O'Tine had some sharp commentary around the nature of severing the social contract.
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feibrix 5 days ago +20
Oh. should I have added some slurs to insult minorities to avoid the leftist flag? /s
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feibrix 5 days ago +9
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Tamination 5 days ago +21
I don't know what you said, but I probably agree with it.
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effreti 5 days ago +87
Sadly this is not how it works on corporate levels. You have different divisions that have their own budgets, their own cost centers, their own projects and financial predictions. If one over or under performs, usually it does not affect the other divisions directly. That is why you see some companies reporting record profits and then firing people, they had an underperforming division
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ischmoozeandsell 5 days ago +93
Well, it sounds like these employees want that to be the change. Crazier things have happened.
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topdangle 5 days ago +49
it also ignores that other divisions carried samsung's memory division during its downs, not to mention the memory division had only remained flat over the years by price fixing with the rest of the memory cartel, which they were convicted for but only given a slap on the wrist. samsung is able to get away with a lot of failures thanks to the sheer importance of the entire conglomerate. without the other departments they would've been eaten a live in a completely "free" capitalist market because there would be no reason for all the government support.
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ionthruster 5 days ago +29
> it also ignores that other divisions carried samsung's memory division during its downs Companies will pay bonuses while laying off a big chunk of workers. If this set of workers have leverage - let them take all they can get. Companies never pay what is fair for everyone - but the lowest they get away with.
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Trollbreath4242 5 days ago +32
> how it works Doesn't appear to be actually WORKING then if employees are striking. Maybe they might want to think about that a bit and change "the way things work."
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Benikur521 5 days ago +19
Who cares about “ how it works “ these are all made up norms anyway pay the people their money because without them there is no Samsung
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shes_a_gdb 5 days ago +15
We also used to not have weekends off, FMLA, overtime pay, 8-hour work days, etc. That's how things work is only a thing until the people who are being taken advantage of fight back.
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FEED_ME_YOUR_EYES 5 days ago +12
By that same logic, the general employees of the company didn't do anything special, they just did their jobs and happened to be in the lucky company. What about all the workers in other companies?
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Debatebly 5 days ago +6
You went a little broad, but I agree with the sentiment. I'd say Samsung subsidiaries instead and you really get your point across of "Where do you draw the line?". Doesn't really make much sense to distribute beyond each divisions. This is really all contingent on /u/self-fix2 being correct.
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TheAngryGoat 5 days ago +7
> you can understand why they'd be hesitant about paying the same 1 million bonus to the home appliances division, for example, when their performance is lackluster and are being pushed out by Chinese competition. The performances of each division is really case-by-case. Yet when a company performance tanks through no fault of the employees, the redundancy axe will swing wildly across all divisions. Is it fair for the company to always reap the profits and the employees to only suffer the losses?
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lavinshaven58 5 days ago +4
Remember that scene from “We’re the Millers?” This feels like that “Hynix employees are getting $900 grand!?” “You’re only offering 340 grand” Meanwhile over at LG: “340 grand in bonuses? We’re only getting 25 grand in bonuses!” (Hypothetical) Meanwhile over at Hyundai: “You guys are getting bonuses?”
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moldyjellybean 5 days ago +25
is the price increase also collusion like the last 10 memory price hikes?
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Expert_Garlic_2258 5 days ago +13
Is it collusion or is it McKinsey?
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Zigxy 5 days ago +16
You’re confusing revenue and profit. Profits vary by huge multiples all the time for many companies. For example Peloton had a 110x increase in Operating Profit between 2025 Q1 and 2025 Q2.
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No_Atmosphere8146 5 days ago +16
>Operating profit reached a record **KRW 57.2 trillion ($39.5 billion)**, marking a \~750% increase year-on-year. Then again, maybe not.
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EmergencyComment101 5 days ago +6
Im with the workers here... But putting everything else aside and all other reasons aside, there is 1 valid fear i can see companies having in a situation like this.. why would you stay after a 1 or 2 or 3 years? You're essentially giving huge payouts to employees that guarantee a mass workforce exodus. Why would you continue working there with a couple million in the bank that you can build and live of?
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kos-or-kosm 5 days ago +13
Why isn't that a concern for the c-suite? Executives get paid offensive amounts of money and they stick around. If any of the owning class are having these thoughts it's because they view the working class as a fundamentally different form of life that doesn't think the way they do.
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morrison0880 5 days ago +11
Because next year there's another $400k inbound?
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EmergencyComment101 5 days ago +6
Which to earn you have to spend 50% of your waking life 5 days a week in a factory for. Or you take 2 or 3 years of earnings, own everything you need and comfortablely live off the interest.
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asdf9asdf9 5 days ago +4
To clarify, I think their point was this: If you just want to live an average life, how many $400k paychecks do you need before retiring very early? Never having to work 40-60 hour weeks again.
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TheAngryGoat 5 days ago +3
Most people won't leave after a $400k bonus if they know the same is coming again next year. >Why would you continue working there with a couple million in the bank that you can build and live of? Why would the best and brightest from across the world look to work anywhere but Samsung with those kinds of bonuses on offer?
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angelbelle 5 days ago +3
You could just actually read what they're asking for and find the answer to that question. The workers are demanding the bonus to be tied to company profit. If company underperform, so to does the bonus pay.
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DrKlitface 5 days ago +870
So in other words they can pay up to 13000 employees the 900k$ one time and I will be cheaper than the strike...
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nefariousmonkey 5 days ago +649
They still won't... Because it sets a precedent. Corporates hate that
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self-fix2 5 days ago +244
Samsung is pissed for sure. The message they're sending is "if we do end up paying you this absurd amount, we are openly accelerating automation in our fabs"
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M4xP0w3r_ 5 days ago +167
As if they wouldnt do that otherwise...
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HollyMurray20 4 days ago +4
They definitely will now. And they’ll spend billions to do it as fast as they can now
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wanderer1999 5 days ago +57
Good luck to SS I say. Automation can only go so far and there are already signs that AI cannot completely replace human and can end up being more expensive.
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filthylittlebird 5 days ago +42
Not sure what manufacturing industry you are in but semicon manufacturing is absolutely going the way of 100% automation. Even laborious shit like moving material to from warehouses, picking shit up and assembling stuff are all automated and running 24/7
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glmory 5 days ago +7
Sounds like time for dramatic tax increases and universal income.
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MeaninglessDebateMan 5 days ago +4
Even in design. We are implementing natural language in the design programs that create standard cells, memory components, for simulation, digital and analog, layout, etc. EDA is pretty much all about automation and they will automate until they don't need employees anymore.
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also_plane 3 days ago +3
I work in digital verification. I can see lot of it being done by LLM (and thus making me jobless. Shame, I quite like my work) - write verification plan, tests, map requirements, simulate, debug, collect coverage. Nothing impossible Digital design as well. But analog simulation? No way. That stuff is more like wizzardy, and you are constrained by computing power, where the human can guess better than AI.
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Rosegarden3000 5 days ago +35
And machines aren't going to buy their smartphones
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Infinite_throwaway_1 5 days ago +30
That's a broad issue that needs to be addressed. If nobody is working, nobody is buying the products, and the entire economy collapses. Buuuut, for the individual company acting rationally in its own best interest, you can't expect them to make less profit in order to pay people so they can spend most of that money on other company's products.
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MrUtterNonsense 5 days ago +8
It's company interests vs systemic risk. Banks have ended up crashing the system because of only caring about their own interests and not the risk to the whole system. Government and regulatory bodies are meant to protect against systemic risk but they end up being undermined via lobbying from the very same companies that put the whole system at risk. The systemic risk from AI automation is not something that can be easily dealt with. It's a real wild card.
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thatguy6598 5 days ago +9
My god this is the thing that I keep coming back to. If every company attempts to minimize costs by employing the least number of people possible, automating everything that can be and developing new ways to do so, what happens when the only people working are automation engineers? And what happens when everything at every stage is fully automated and you need many less of those automation engineers to only maintain the machines they built? Who is actually buying anything? Is it just going to be the rich owners of companies that sell things targeted at other rich people buying the same things from each other back and forth?
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weregeek 5 days ago +6
Okay...whose kids are they threatening?
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Little_Bother2755 5 days ago +29
The problem is they have 77,000 employees. At least there is some semblance of sharing the profite in Korean culture. Can you imagine Amazon providing one time payouts of profits ro factory workers, they dont even let them use bathrooms
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getmoneygetpaid 5 days ago +37
Probably not. How many of those employees would quit after getting a $900k bonus? And how many realistically could afford to quit without the bonus? So Samsung can either pay everyone $900k and get a massive workforce disruption. Or pay everyone $0 and maybe get a workforce disruption. I think I can see which way this is going.
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ozthinker 5 days ago +15
I think news story like this is making up some sensationalist stuff, and don't tell the full story. I don't think tens of thousands of workers are getting this type of bonus regardless of one time or each year. As you said, many of them can just quit and cause a workforce disruption anyway. So that is not going to happen.
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TheDreadfulSagittary 5 days ago +10
The problem for Samsung if they do nothing is that SK Hynix will likely take their best employees with their insanely good bonuses.
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StrangeCharmVote 5 days ago +3
That's the thing right? All these people are saying it's an unreasonable ask... but there's literally a company **already doing it**. Companies **need** certain workers, and more importantly a certain **amount** of workers to remain operational. If Samsung stonewalls them on this, people will jump ship, and Samsung will have issues... likely costing them more than this bonus in the long run. Which is what the argument is for just sucking it up and giving it to them.
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38B0DE 5 days ago +9
Samsung is low-balling employees and the employees are high-balling them back. They will run a few cycles and then they'll shake hands somewhere the middle. Corporate will come on top in the long run.
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No_Atmosphere8146 5 days ago +14
"If we make you too comfortable, you might stop making us money!" Shit, if that isn't the mindset holding back the whole of human happiness.
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Chlios1187 5 days ago +3
I mean, putting myself in those employees' shoes.. If I just successfully fought and won structural profit sharing that would give me hundreds of thousands of dollars each year, I'm not thinking of leaving any time soon. I'm making plans to secure my position in that company and ride the wave to generational wealth
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fotomoose 5 days ago +117
Meanwhile my company freezes raises due to 'tough times' then posts record breaking profits 3 years in a row.
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hypoglycemicrage 5 days ago +24
Stocks aren't going to buy themselves back.
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No-Pack-5775 4 days ago +3
freezing pay helps to hit those record profits 😂
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Even_Power6598 5 days ago +466
As the saying goes, "when there's a gold rush, sell shovels" Doesn't matter if AI is profitable or not. As long as the AI bubble keeps expanding companies will continue to buy components from Samsung for AI data centres.
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Lord_Skellig 5 days ago +30
Problem is every "AI company" is a shovel company. I've yet to see LLMs increase profitability of core business functions.
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IndependenceSudden63 5 days ago +27
Shovels in this case are the part needed to create the data centers that AI companies use to train LLMs. Think GPU, Ram, memory. You cannot build a data center without these things They are the shovels. The AI/LLM is the gold. I think GPU and ram stocks are already overinflated, but if you bought 3-5 years ago, you'd be up 100% to 500% depending on the company.
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fiction8 5 days ago +8
I believe the parent commenter understands that, but they are pointing out that the AI companies are turning around and trying to sell shovels too. Their pitch is b2b: "buy our product and you can use it to mine so much gold!" The problem is how much gold is actually being found at that next step down in the chain. Are the AI shovels useful enough to actually prospect.
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IndependenceSudden63 5 days ago +5
Understood. The problem is, we are using the gold rush analogy. The people sure to make money in a "gold rush" are the ones selling shovels. Edit: Lord Skelling said that every AI company IS a shovel company. That is muddling the analogy, cause they are more akin to a a gold rush prospector, selling rights to a piece of land they own. It's just not the same analogy. The guys selling the shovels still make money, regardless of who owns the rights to the land that people are mining for gold. (To hammer it home, Nvidia and ram and memory companies are still making tons of money. The AI companies are not and trying desperately to get someone to rent a piece of the land they've prospected on.) Sorry, somehow I accidentally submited the response too early. Putting aside the analogy stuff. Yes I agree. AI sucks from a profitability standpoint. It just doesn't seem like the juice is worth the squeeze in a majority of the cases.
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No_Atmosphere8146 5 days ago +12
Just got to sell so many shovels that you're "too big to fail", and then await your bailout.
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adflet 5 days ago +121
AI isn't. Samsung are just supplying semiconductors for hardware though so it's all hard cash. It's not the weird NVIDIA/openai shell game where NVIDIA invests in openai and openai promises to buy x worth of hardware over y years.
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moldyolive 5 days ago +12
I mean anthropic reportedly has 30 billion in revenue now.
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PhysicallyTender 5 days ago +44
... And what's their profit?
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ereface 5 days ago +8
3 cigs and a lighter
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adflet 5 days ago +15
And yet they will likely still spend more than that on data centres. (Projected to run at a loss of a third of that revenue or $11b)
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mrducky80 5 days ago +6
I reckon both Anthropic and Alphabet (claude and gemini) are both going to be doing fine. They are both backed by stable and big money with actual avenues to revenue raising that doesnt consist of begging for cash injections by random big tech. Its OpenAI and ChatGPT thats probably going to end the way the dumpster fire with no real way to properly monetize. They cant even squeeze anymore since they arent the only big dog. Claude is right there and Gemini is absolutely keeping up. If they try to aggressively monetize, people will just jump ship.
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orangeyougladiator 5 days ago +3
Anthropic will be the first domino to fall. OpenAI has much bigger and broader investors to keep them alive.
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Orangecuppa 5 days ago +12
To be fair, Claude Code is absolutely amazing. You hear articles talk shit about genAI coding but that's usually for the 'generic' LLMs. Claude Code is pretty f****** good at coding.
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movzx 5 days ago +28
It can be great for coding. If it costs more to run than they can charge for it then it's meaningless.
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Rias-senpai 5 days ago +10
It'll become expensive AF once competition starts to die down as well. While I think Claude Code will be great for coding in the future. I don't really see LLMs solving big problems around the world, and capitalism will make sure it's probably going to be expensive as hell.
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Fatalisbane 5 days ago +5
Based on their financials they could stop training, provide what they make now and make money. But investment is based on impossible AGI, so gotta keep that foot on the gas.
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totallynotbeyonce 5 days ago +3
I was just talking to a coworker yesterday about how he was running an open source Chinese model (Qwen3.6) locally on his new MacBook and it was surprisingly good. Like good enough to replace most ai coding for him. As much as these things are expensive to run in data centers, we’re quickly getting to a point where coders will just run locally and opt out of the per use pricing models.
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KristinnK 5 days ago +5
Just about all LLMs are good at coding, it's a job that really plays to LLMs' strengths. It's precise and predictable, and there's a huge amount of data about it online to train on.
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quadcorelatte 5 days ago +42
For Samsung and SK Hynix it certainly is
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self-fix2 5 days ago +38
Yes, Samsung's Q1 operating profit was 39 Billion USD. Hynix was 25.4 Billion USD. According to Goldman Sachs, Samsung's operating profit in 2028 alone is expected to be greater than the profits made by Japan's top 100 companies combined
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TheDreadfulSagittary 5 days ago +9
Samsung is not making money with AI, they're making money selling hardware to the AI companies hoping to make money with AI.
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Rias-senpai 5 days ago +11
Yes to people selling the gold rush shovels. Not necessarily the people digging gold.
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DeHarigeTuinkabouter 5 days ago +5
Those are chip manufacturers, not AI companies. They are just suppliers
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ForsakenRacism 5 days ago +8
It is for the companies building the components
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MrFrog65 5 days ago +4
Yes. Look at Google, anthropic
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jert3 4 days ago +3
OpenAI needs to make $180-200 BILLiOn a year to be profitable, by 2030. It's not impossible but the age of free tokens and no ads in the output will come to end faster than anyone expects.
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AaronWilde 5 days ago +16
Its absolutely insane to me that 18 days would cost Samsung $11.7 billion. That is absurd for one company.
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mediumwetsock 5 days ago +7
Shows the power of the workers, and yet we allow ourselves to be treated like shit by our corporate overlords. We should learn from these people
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NiFiGaS 3 days ago +3
This company responsible for like half of the economics of South Korea.
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Candid_Cat_5921 5 days ago +248
Then you’ve got US companies like Microsoft/Amazon who are making record profits and reducing benefits for employs and making them fight for their lives
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BidenGlazer 5 days ago +85
Yeah, AI researchers at Microsft and Amazon are famously poor.
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one-won-juan 5 days ago +18
uhh in both senior ICs make well into mid 6 figures in just RSUs and very senior ICs at Amazon can reach 7 figures if just RSUs, completely ignoring base pay as well and of course those RSUs benefit from stock performance
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SimpleNovelty 5 days ago +17
You know nothing about FAANG comp then. The SDEs involved in actual AI-related fields are comped very well.
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008Zulu 5 days ago +547
"How dare the poors demand better living conditions!" \- The Rich.
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Helpful-Leading-7948 5 days ago +228
I'm pretty sure the "poor" don't reject $340,000 one time payments.
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Even_Power6598 5 days ago +221
I mean if Samsung is even offering $340k one time payments to workers imagine how fabulously rich the AI boom has made the family/execs.
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Bleizwerg 5 days ago +64
Rich like "we had 50 billion, now we have 90!"... which changed absolutely nothing.
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Orangecuppa 5 days ago +48
Yeah its kinda crazy how the diminishing returns work eh. Like if you had $50B today and you get a windfall of an additional $40B adding your total worth to $90B, it wouldnt make a significant difference to your lifestyle. But if you had absolutely jack shit and suddenly got $300K, your life would significantly change immediately.
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Interesting-Tie6783 5 days ago +16
No, going from 50bn to 90bn wouldn’t make a single difference to your lifestyle. Being excessively wealthy is a socially acceptable mental illness. 
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Bleizwerg 5 days ago +21
Correct, it would make zero difference.
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Entire_Judge_2988 5 days ago +11
I don't know where you are from, but please name at least one company in your country that offers a $340,000 bonus.
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Sersch 5 days ago +15
Yeah getting 900k annualy sounds insane compared to what most people posting here earn.
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Helpful-Leading-7948 5 days ago +19
it sounds insane because its unsustainable. If the demand for chips falls, or the supply increases (Micron is building semiconductor factories in India, I just checked, it makes RAM chips there). The company giving annual millions per employee, would suddenly have to fire employees. Edit: apparently Hynix's bonuses are tied to yearly profits, they're variable.
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Fatalisbane 5 days ago +20
Its a bonus based on sales, they simply pay less if profit is less... its a bonus not a salary?
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Entire_Judge_2988 5 days ago +6
Korean labor laws do not allow companies to dismiss regular employees at will, unlike in the US.
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ColdAsHeaven 5 days ago +30
Course they are. It's like Deal or No Deal. The bank is going to make you an offer hoping you take it and screw off and forget about what you can actually get.
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Lord_Skellig 5 days ago +5
Oh that's each?! I assumed that was the amount offered to the whole team to split.
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iron233 5 days ago +8
“Curse those peasants! I need to take the jet to Greece for the weekend to calm down”.
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ThoughtsandThinkers 5 days ago +31
This is how capitalism should work within the context of a just society The market has decided that a product is valuable The employees share fairly in the profits. Some employees could decide to retire, opening up spots for new employees Workers as a group become wealthier and can buy more products Everyone wins, instead of more and more profits getting funnelled into fewer and fewer hands
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HUNMaDLaB 5 days ago +65
I am hobestly shocked by these numbers. 4-900 kUSD as annnual bonus, for a std employee, where avrg annual salary is, what, like 30k. What the actual f***? Is this normal in Korea? I dont find words. In the EU bonuses are like 10-20% of ones annual salary not 1000%. Absolutely bonkers.
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calmech 5 days ago +51
Average pay across all of Samsung Electronics is [$107K](https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10691935). The chips group is likely significantly higher.
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TheDreadfulSagittary 5 days ago +39
It is because SK Hynix employees in the past got a deal where their bonuses are a % of the operating profit. Now that RAM prices have absolutely skyrocketed, that % deal is paying out huge bonuses. If the price collapses again, the bonuses will as well.
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kbbajer 5 days ago +7
Still with the 900k bonus it will only take a 30bn$ top off of a projected 170bn$ profit for the year. The amount of money here is absurd. And it also puts the wealth of the super rich into perspective. You can make 35.000 people near as makes no difference milllionaires for about 4% of Musks net worth.
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Sub_NerdBoy 5 days ago +25
The missing context here: Samsung in Korea operates where they under pay salary by about 50% compared to different countries or what is considered normal. In typical conditions the other 50% is an annual profit sharing bonus. When markets are down and company profit is down then workers make less if their division was less profitable. None of the "normal" market variability has made outlier events like we see today from global trade wars tanking markets and AI causing massive gold rushes in others. The workers protesting here have gotten 0 profit sharing bonus for more than 1 year in a row now. So that means with the economy tanking, inflation spiking, they have had their income halved, and now they're watching one division rake in insane bonuses due to the AI boom, and they're saying enough is enough. Back compensation for missing half their pay check for more than a year, and equalizing the corporate profit share across divisions is why they say this makes sense. The argument is that division based profit share bonus model makes sense in normal conditions, but these are not normal conditions.
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obp5599 5 days ago +3
Well the EU is probably one of the lowest paid westernized places. I wouldnt compare that salary to anything. Tech workers make literally 1/4th the pay there. I don’t see how any software engineers live there tbh the pay is astoundingly low
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Black_Scholes_Merton 5 days ago +10
This is why I prefer the 'stock vesting' system as a form of employee effort recognition; a salary just gets you the bare minimum, having shares mean you are directly holding a piece of ownership in the work you do. That way, employees don't have to strike or protest to get a 'fair share' when owners get rich from their efforts; rising stock price (and a predefined RSV) means the get it without asking.
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Odd_Collection7431 5 days ago +7
Keep going, heroes!!!
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mraowl 4 days ago +9
I'm sad as someone raised in California that we will not take advantage of AI to make something like the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund or universal basic income. That's exactly the kind of sensible, tangible change I always thought would come if we made progress on automation. But of course....I was wrong....:(
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GreatPretender98z 5 days ago +10
Insanely historic honestly.
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MercantileReptile 5 days ago +7
Love to see some collective bargaining with force behind it!
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Crazyhates 5 days ago +5
Record profits for me but not for thee
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TBRoma 5 days ago +8
Why don’t corporations want the people working for them/under them to have a better life via better pay and treatment???? Why does working for a company always equal unfair treatment and bad pay???? Where is the gratitude??????????
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InquisitorMeow 5 days ago +4
No, but you see the CEO caused the profits to go up by 50%, not unprecedented demand and overtime from the workers. That's why they deserve 1000x the pay and the workers get nothing :)
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BLiNKiN42 5 days ago +48
Hey, America, this is what protesting looks like. These guys are fighting harder for a raise than y'all are fighting to save your country. 
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deja-roo 5 days ago +19
> These guys are fighting harder for a raise What are you talking about? It's just a union negotiating union stuff. This isn't that ground breaking lol
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Special_Order-937 4 days ago +3
Here’s the thing about the US and unions, though…
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Entire_Judge_2988 5 days ago +50
You Listnook people know now, right? Companies like Samsung, Hyundai, KIA, LG, and SK, which you cited as examples while ridiculing Korea as a dystopia, provide their employees with bonuses of hundreds of thousands of dollars every year. You don't need to worry about them. Please worry about yourselves. LOL.
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11ce_ 5 days ago +18
Every year? What companies were paying hundreds of thousands of dollars per employee in bonuses before the AI boom in Korea?
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Embarrassed_Brick635 5 days ago +33
As a Korean I'm glad to read this comment. People judge korea just by seeing movie like Parasite or Squid game. The fact, that these movies continue to be released shows that both the public and the political sphere recognize the importance of solving this issue. In reality, if you live in Korea, you’ll find it’s not so much a "capitalist dystopia" but actually has surprisingly strong socialist tendencies. However, the intense culture of competition, high suicide rate, low birth rate, and the obsession with physical appearance—those are all accurate observations.
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buffility 5 days ago +6
And how many % of population get to be Samsung employees? Im just genuinely curious.
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brendhano 5 days ago +3
f*** yeah get'em!
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burnerthrown 5 days ago +3
Are they made to live in a closed enclave? Everyone knows the AI bubble is going to burst sooner or later. Their payout will dry up exactly the same time as the tech economy crashes like a supply plane full of AA fire.
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Visual-Slip-4750 5 days ago +3
Good luck to the workers.
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qnssekr 5 days ago +3
Good for them. Everyone should do this if they work for a company that makes millions in profits and unwilling to share their windfall
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Pink_llama_ 5 days ago +4
At least their employees actually know their worth
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Polarexia 5 days ago +7
pay your f****** employees how stupid do you have to be, especially when youre making obscene amounts of money like never before??
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SHAQBIR 5 days ago +10
Eat the chaebols
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MrBogardus 5 days ago +4
It should be annual payouts!!! Lol ALWAYS the company trying to short change the workers.
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Albertuscamus12 5 days ago +5
Meanwhile c-suites will get annual bonuses regardless of profits or losses 🤷‍♂️
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