Serbia’s top military brass said Ukraine was not behind an incident involving explosives near a gas pipeline with Hungary, in a rebuke to Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, who heavily implied Kyiv was involved
If these populists/autocrats are supposedly so great at everything, why do they ALWAYS have to resort to foul play? How about trying to win in a fair game just once?
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farhawk4 days ago
+31
They usually start off getting things done thanks to competent subordinates but as they consolidate power they inevitably start seeing that competence as a threat to their rule.
So inevitably they replace the competent people with less competent people who are easier to control.
Over time this erodes their ability to do just about everything.
So since you’re bad at everything now the only way to continue in power is to cheat.
Which inevitably ends up being transparent because the people around you are a bunch of incompetent yes-men.
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Wurschd4 days ago
+2
You are right, contraselection is a factor, but I would argue that most of them don't even start off getting things done.
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kilgore_trout14 days ago
+50
Orban has lied in a desperate attempt to cling on to power by throwing Ukrainians once again under the bus? I’m shocked! shocked!
Well, not that shocked.
PS - Victor, I hope you don’t just lose on Sunday, I hope you’re absolutely crushed. You deserve everything that’s coming to you.
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Mrhnhrm4 days ago
+1
>You deserve everything that’s coming to you.
Retirement with honours somewhere in Russia?
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Explorer_1990_4 days ago
+37
It's a false flag action. No matter what Viktor says he no longer can save its regime from collapse.
Many of us in Hungary do not believe this bullshit. 12 APRIL will be a historical day for us in Hungary.
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ianjm4 days ago
+3
It does seem like there are more and more scandals for Fidez coming to light in just the last week. I have no doubt Orban has plenty of support still but there does seem to be some legitimate hope.
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mala_neveshta3 days ago
+1
I am hoping he will pull his friend Vuçiçi down in the hole with him!
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Phulish_Human4 days ago
+18
If Ukraine wanted to destroy pipeline they would do in not in place where it could be easily detected or repaired...
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Sinaaaa4 days ago
+11
if anyone for real wanted to damage the pipleline, they wouldn't have just left the explosive device there with a trigger, but would have actually popped it. Real life is not Mcgyver.
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MagickRage4 days ago
+3
Not by planting, but by simple drone ...
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Domeee1234 days ago
+2
Nothing was planted anyway its just a made up false flag story.
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MagickRage4 days ago
+1
Like operation Spiderweb: clean, fast, massive
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birgor4 days ago
+1
And certainly not when it would have helped Orbán win an election.
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CaulkennyArran4 days ago
+10
They couldn’t even get their false flag story straight
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ianjm4 days ago
+6
I kinda wonder if this was a Russian special op, and Serbia was supposed to play along and accuse Ukraine, but they see the writing on the wall for Orban so have backed off. That's my theory anyway.
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Fun_Skirt_23964 days ago
+2
No. That was Magyar's game, to make a fool of Orbán. /s jk
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Demonofthedark13134 days ago
+6
El Falso El Flago.
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InfamousSelection3934 days ago
+6
Orban is on his way out and he knows it, he's getting desperate. Keep the pressure on him.
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Kosovar914 days ago
+3
Yes, it was the fault of Ustashas and Albin Kurti
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Bigchunky_Boy4 days ago
+1
Aw the false flag comes to light . Fakers no one give a c*** about Hungary but Orban needs some media to claim they are a victim. Boo hoo .
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TheCatOfWar4 days ago
nice to see serbia on the right side of history, usually they have a habit of being wannabe russian proxy themselves
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Che_Varack4 days ago
+3
Your statement just speaks of how knowledgeable you are in the matter.
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[deleted]4 days ago
-25
Are they actually not involved, or are they wink-wink-nudge-nudge 'not involved' like with nordstream?
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Lexinoz4 days ago
+15
Ukraine have nothing to gain from that.. And they're kinda busy. Orban has a lot to gain from uniting the public against Ukraine, he's gone full Russian ally and is desperate for the shortly upcoming election so you make up your own mind
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[deleted]4 days ago
-20
You say that ukraine has nothing to gain from destroying a gas pipeline transporting russian gas, meanwhile Ukrainians take great pleasure in destroying russian oil refineries (see eg. https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-drones-reportedly-strike-oil-refinery-in-russian-city-of-ufa/)
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Lexinoz4 days ago
+5
Where are the refineries located vs. where was the bomb found along the pipeline? I actually don't know, but assume the bomb was found outside of Russian land.
They want to hamper Russia from gaining money, but not at the risk of the global publics eye.
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BlueInfinity20214 days ago
+10
It makes no sense for Ukraine to do it since they could have much more easily done the same thing in Ukraine without a complicated operation that could be discovered.
Comparing it to nordstream makes no sense as that could only be done outside of Ukraine and there was no easy alternative.
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franbatista1234 days ago
-25
It's not like Kyiv has a history of doing things like that, right?
You can be pro-Ukraine and recognize that they destroyed Nordstream and might be doing it again
> “The manufacturer of the explosives does not mean that he is also the one who ordered or executed it,” he said, adding, “The markings on the explosives show that it was manufactured in the U.S.”
I wonder who is receiving lots of american equipment...
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Aardige4 days ago
+6
They are not going to play in Ofban's cards right before the election. Orban was not leading.
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ianjm4 days ago
+5
I wonder who has acquired a few bits and pieces of US equipment because they've been fighting Ukraine on a dynamically moving front line for 4 years
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Adhar_Veelix4 days ago
+2
No one is stupid enough to hand the would be assassin a dagger with his own initials carved on it.
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tele-picker4 days ago
+1
Why would Ukraine do something that would potentially help Orban get reelected?
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