She spent 20 months battling to die under a euthanasia law. On Thursday, Spain let her

I hope she finally felt at peace.

Her statement breaks my heart. 25 years old man....

I may be incorrect, but someone on a diff sub said her bf raped her after she took some sleeping pills. I feel in my bones that this quote was her way of having that control, and safety, she did not receive before. Noelia, may your next life be so much better than this one.

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What the f***

It's more complex than that. At 13 she had to go live in a children's home because her dad was an alcoholic and gambler and his addictions got worse to the point they lost their house and were living in dirt and with rats. Although her experience at the children's home was aparently not bad (the only bad memory of that time she talked about was when she had to visit her paternal grandma who was verbally abusive and hater her) she clearly felt abandoned. She was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, and according to her own testimony started doing drugs and hanging out with bad people, she attempted suicide many times, was put in psychiatric hospitals, was given treatment, but she would not take her medication, her boyfriend raped her while she was asleep, later she was sexually assaulted twice by groups of men at a club, the last time she jumped from a window and was left paralyzed, with chronic pain, incontinence... While she requested the euthanasia because of her physical condition it's clear than in this case her psychological suffering is a big part of why she wanted it, but in the end it was her life, her suffering and her choice.

R*** needs to be punishable by death

Hello, Spaniard here. She was not gang-raped. This was a lie perpetrated by the Christian Lawyers hired by her father to go against her. [https://www.elperiodico.com/es/sociedad/20260326/bulos-eutanasia-noelia-violacion-menas-depresion-falta-tratamiento-extranjeros-centro-menores-128449159](https://www.elperiodico.com/es/sociedad/20260326/bulos-eutanasia-noelia-violacion-menas-depresion-falta-tratamiento-extranjeros-centro-menores-128449159)

Oh my god that is horrific and heartbreaking.

The thing about this is, she said the suicide attempt in which she became paralyzed was triggered by the gang r***, wich happened at a disco, that were her words and she didn't give more details, also this didn't get reported to the police. We really don't have any proof of it happening but I think is pretty safe to say this happened, she was so hurt she tried to end her life in a horrible way after that. Now... The part that's a hoax os that this happened in by foreigners in a protection center, why? Well... Here in Spain we have a term, Menas (menores extranjeros no acompañados or non accompanied migrant minors), wich are whole issue with a lot of nuance, but basically they are a big part of the talking points of right wing parties and their associates, so they use incidents like these to create hoaxes and further their agenda. I don't really know where the hoax started, I've heard it was the association trying to deny Noelia euthanasia (abogados cristianos, or Cristhian lawyers) or the right wing party vox, but I don't really know accurately.

Who would do that? Did they publish names?

F'm god awful. haven't heard much of that tragic part. I wonder why

The initial articles I saw at a glance glossed over that so I naively went "but you're so young, can still have a decent life". Then when others started filling in the blanks and giving non-sugarcoated info I went "....oh". A lot of them played up what she wanted and kinda ignored everything that led up to it. I frankly cannot blame her one bit for wanting to escape the hell, and if anything raises a point this should be more of an option. Obviously not willy nilly and some sort of safeguards to stop "lost my job, guess I'll off myself" from happening.... but still an option. We make this choice with pets in regards to quality of life, I'm still baffled why we're exempt. Sure, we can do more to push the needle but there is still a point it is just pure suffering.

Dude is an alcoholic who gambled away all his money, putting her into the foster system and setting in motion the events that would eventually lead to her requesting euthanasia. And he has the gall to oppose it, what a dad

In the end it's her choice. I can't imagine what I'd feel if my child chose this route but I know I'd support them no matter what.  When it comes to being a parent he should have put his beliefs aside. :(

He seriously said that? To a victim of gang r***?

\> A father battled to keep alive a daughter whom he would not visit, call, text… just for the sake of his own beliefs. Typical “Christian” behaviour. When it comes to the loud actions that don’t require much of them they are always there. It’s all about control. Condemning homosexuals but not other sins they themselves are often guilty of. Condemning abortion but having zero care for those babies once they are out of the womb. Trying to take away peoples choice to opt for euthanasia. It’s easy to try to control others but it seems like not many have any desire to be Christ like. Which is you know, kind of supposed to be the main point of the whole religion

People barely bat an eye at the idea of people dying horribly but get all squeamish as soon as you mention dying with a modicum of comfort and dignity.

A lot of religious people oppose it because they claim it's "playing God" to decide when your time to go is. Meanwhile, they have no problem with things like life support machines or [hooking up brain dead women to said machines so they can function as an incubator to a first trimester fetus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriana_Smith_pregnancy_case).

I think there's a significant difference between, say, assisted dying when you have a degenerative terminal illness, and being euthanised for depression and mental health struggles. A great many people would take that choice if it were open to them, because that's what depression feels like, but the vast majority of them will, later in life, find that actually, life is worth living more than they felt it was when they were at their lowest.

Yeah. People like to argue with "but what happens if you're old or not of sound mind and your family makes the choice for you?" Then make it so that they can't? We already have laws in place for such matters. We already have such thing as medical power of attorney. I don't see why they can't just add in additional clause for this. And if it's against religious beliefs, then people can just opt out. People can already opt out of organ donation, blood transfusion, resuscitation, etc. So why is this any different? We treat animals with more dignity than our own because some people want to clutch pearls about morals that don't involve them at all.

Have you ever seen despair in a person?

PREACH! I want to go so bad. Give me the same grace we show our pets ffs.

Thanks for sharing your experience. OCD is a living hell alone. This poor woman having that and all those other traumas? I don't blame her in the slightest. I'm glad she's free. Your rock in a tumbler metaphor hits. People don't realize that I can be in the middle of a joyful conversation or laughter and still be dealing with intrusive thoughts.

Sending you hugs from one ocd sufferer to another ❤️

Your story is very similar to mine. I’ve always had ocd tendencies but was never officially diagnosed until I was 19, I’m 37 now. It’s gotten progressively worse and I have seriously thought of suicide many times just so I don’t have to deal with the bullshit OCD makes you go through. I have some trauma too, I wasn’t molested but at age 12 I was subjected to an unlawful strip search without probable cause. Schoolyard fight, school had zero tolerance policy in place. They took me to juvenile detention center and had me in a holding cell for several hours, then was released without charges. They strip searched me at intake even though neither of us kids had weapons during the fight. First thing I did when I got home was shower and scrub like a mad man. I had never in my life felt so dirty and unclean. There was no cavity search or anything, thank god, but still - strip searching a 12 year old is a great way to give them trauma and trust issues. Few days later I had a desk appearance with I guess a litigant or mediator or something not really sure the term - it’s not a judge but it’s like somebody you plead your case to and they decide if it’s worth it for the court to continue with your case. It’s sorta like arraignment but not quite. It’s like to determine if your case is really severe enough and worth it to even warrant continuing to arraignment and booking. Litigation, mediation, not really sure the term for it. But yeah it wasn’t until after that stage that the school even gave me a chance to tell my side of the fighting incident and even then it had to be in an official handwritten signed statement. Meanwhile nothing was ever done to the other kid who instigated the fight, not even 3-day suspension from classes or anything. But with my OCD, I’ve seriously considered suicide. Going so far as to even research things like quickest methods, which methods have highest rates of success, etc I mean I’ve studied case reports and peer reviewed psychology journals, etc. But ultimately I’ve never gone through it or even attempted it. It’s always been in the moment that I think about it because like just normal everyday activity I’m able to cope with it but when it’s seriously hits and when there’s just stressor after stressor and it gets overwhelming that’s the only time I actually think about ending it. And even at those times, it’s not that I want to die I just don’t want to keep suffering with living like that.

My heart goes out to you

But thats the point. Its about understanding and defining "truly". Depression for example might make someone want to truly die in the moment. But with help and support that can change. Her case is about the "truly" means shes unlikely to get to that stage before she has complex medical needs and they arent things that can be fixed. Im glad safe guards exist, they need to, but what the father did was selfish. He prolonged and added to her suffering and he abused her agency.

Agreed. But as a Canadian, let me tell you: people will make up all sorts of absurd lies if you try. There are a significant number of people, on both the left and the right, who've convinced themselves that MAID is genocide.

> Do better, Spain. In Spain’s defense, it’s like one of 10 countries globally that has legal assisted suicide. They’re already doing better than almost every nation.

The thing is, assisted dying is not really a medical decision, in particular in cases where the person isn't dying. A doctor has no more authority to declare death the best option in these cases than anyone else, really. It's a moral/societal decision, and the most vulnerable in society seek and are granted assisted dying requests for non-terminal reasons a lot more often than other people.

A doctor, especially a single doctor, has no say (and shouldn't, frankly) in regards to euthanasia (not LTE).

In the US, the medical decisions are between doctor, patient, and the insurance company, with the insurance company holding the veto power over the doctor's determination. I still don't know why we just don't pass a bill that says insurance companies cannot override the treatment a patient's personal medical provider prescribes.

The mom was always hopeful that she would change her mind but still was by her side and supported her until the end unlike the dad. Some people and organizations offered money for treatments or housing for her to give life a chance and the mom read those messages on tv knowing she would be watching.

Please tell me which is that magical country where there aren't any druggie gambler parents and there are no rapists so I can move there. Or maybe we could point fingers at the personal responsibility of the people involved in destroying her life instead of vaguely wave our arms at "Spain" or "the system"?