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BannedAgain12341 3 days ago +58

Looks like something big is going to happen today. Deadline is approaching , trump is talking about wiping off civilization and Iran is making human chains.

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domi_versaix 3 days ago +9

What are human chains? Did I miss that? What that mean?

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Finmail 3 days ago +29

Live bodies of civilians shielding the buildings, like power plants. If people do it, it’s supposed to discourage attacks and if you attack, you’re effectively killing people twice.

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domi_versaix 3 days ago +6

Thank you, just found the article!

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IClop2Fluttershy4206 3 days ago -13

eh, if you're gonna die anyways and you still choose to actively defend scumbags then I say light em up. at some point you have to take a stand.

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navyblusheet 3 days ago +14

You are a horrible person

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FishmongerJr 3 days ago +1

Nothing is keeping you from going to Iran to stand up against the regime, Billy Badass. …you’re gonna die anyway, right? Who cares if it’s 40 years earlier that it might have otherwise been.

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Bulletloader 3 days ago

People link arms. Like a human shield to protect their infrastructure

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[deleted] 3 days ago -4

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40cappo40 3 days ago +21

Yes, he himself on his stupid twitter platform

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yetanothrmate 3 days ago +1

Cute of you to think that even if he follow through this , that will resolve the navigation aspect of the strait Singapure might need to find another route to rely on it

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RoyalConfidence522 3 days ago -12

are you living under a rock or something?

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bukbukbuklao 3 days ago +6

Sounds ridiculous doesn’t it? But that’s what’s going on today with all this bullshit.

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Substantial_Milk8170 3 days ago +159

Refusing to entertain a geopolitical shakedown is a massive flex. Singapore is really standing on business with this one.

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khiladi- 3 days ago +40

Agreed. Highly likely Iranians would deny us anyways, might as well take the "high road".

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ArthurCurryWayne 3 days ago +3

You should watch his speech. It is a matter of principle because Singapore Straits is an even more precarious choke point than the Straits of Hormuz, and Singapore is dependent on the Singapore Straights where one third of global trade flows through. This is why they cannot allow anyone to just contravene freedom of navigation.

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Ultra_Metal 3 days ago -26

I wish more countries had the balls to do this. We see so many weak and pathetic leaders like Macron giving the regime whatever it wants.

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Made_Bad_Plans 3 days ago +8

While true, it's soo easy to say thay from the confort of your home. The right call is not to concede, but are you willing to take that decision knowing that millions of people will end up paying for the consequences? I don't support either side, but if it were upto me, I'd also pay a toll and help my citizens. Superpowers can't be allowed to f"?$ $hi& up and expect poor nations to stand firm and take financial hits.

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Ultra_Metal 3 days ago -14

France is not a poor nation. France could buy oil from other countries that are not blocked by the strait of Hormuz. Stop making excuses for them. France is helping a tyrannical regime survive and that is a very evil thing to do.

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Made_Bad_Plans 3 days ago +2

How do you define poor? No matter which country, the average person is not going to be able to afford 1.5x expenses as eventually, the oil price is going to seep into everying from groceries to electricity. For the rich? Of course they'll say that we should stand firm and wait it out. This is exactly the disconnect that the rich lawmakers have with their average citizens.

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themathmajician 3 days ago -5

>How do you define poor? Don't think it matters when it's France you're talking about. France with a collapsed economy would not be a good place but it'll still be a rich country. Remember that a GNI per capita of $4,500 annually is considered upper middle income.

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Dimathiel49 3 days ago +3

The American regime?

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Timey16 3 days ago -18

On the flipside you could argue it's nations still in denial about the new status quo about who is in charge. That by the war's end Iran WILL still maintain control over the strait so if you haven't accepted their supremacy over it early you will just land yourself a MUCH worse deal. "Balls" don't create oil, after all (nor all of the other resources going through the strait). And at the end of the day a government should serve it's people more than principles. If standing tall on your principles means your own people suffer, then you will have to abandon your principles. Your own people should always be your #1 concern. Anything else would be a form of treason. Can he say the same if the lack of oil and with it lack of fertilizers results in a famine?

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toeknn 3 days ago -13

Iran isnt in control of the strait. The US could dispel the illusion by closing the strait same as iran has. And no nation would be able to stop the US from doing so.

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Dark_World_Blues 3 days ago +38

I salute Singapore for this stance

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hawthorne00 3 days ago +25

It's good to hear a voice for freedom of navigation. Not sure how much sway it will have, but it will be remembered even if it fails.

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sylfy 3 days ago +6

Freedom of navigation and UNCLOS are critical to global trade and security, and to any major hub. The major examples cited are the Straits of Hormuz, Straits of Malacca, and Straits of Singapore, but what goes unmentioned and is a potentially bigger flashpoint is the South China Sea.

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hawthorne00 2 days ago +1

Indeed. But if Xi looks at the experiences of Russia in Ukraine and the US in Iran and thinks "I'd like some of that" I'd be pretty surprised.

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Fuzzy-Sweat6416 3 days ago +6

Didn't Malaysia get access through the Strait of Hormuz already? Is this saying he's confident Singapore does not need Hormuz for oil?

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Der_Redakteur 2 days ago +2

yep, they will come to Johor state in malaysia just to refuel their cars from there

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sleepingpepe1 3 days ago +3

Iran making exception for countries it deems friendly. Malaysia is one of them. Singapore likely to be in the same category.

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ProfitableFrontier 2 days ago +1

Singapore is a US ally and hosts US bases, probably won't be permitted passage like Malaysia

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sleepingpepe1 2 days ago +1

Didn’t know that. Def not getting passage.

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oaba09 1 day ago +1

Iran allowed passage for the Philippines(a known US ally) so it is highly likely that they will allow passage for Singapore as well.

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weewaaweewaa 1 day ago +1

Technically, Singapore and the US are not allies. They are defense partners with mutual interests. The US can tenant at Singapore bases for logistical purposes but those are not US bases.

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ConditionHoliday2844 3 days ago +13

Smart

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Softestpoop 3 days ago +15

Singapore doesn't want anyone taking lessons from Iran and applying it to the Strait of Malacca.

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machopsychologist 3 days ago +14

This is the right answer. Singapore relies heavily on the concept of international law, and will do whatever it can to maintain that illusion.

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Tunggall 3 days ago +23

Good on my FM. Balls are needed right now.

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Ultra_Metal 3 days ago -19

Anyone with extra balls should give them to Macron. His abusive wife removed them a long time ago.

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Ok-Confidence-403 2 days ago +1

Husband you mean?

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MachineSpirited7085 3 days ago +6

does that mean Singapore is going to get oil from Malaysia and Indonesia?

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nsfwkorea 3 days ago +6

Came across a post a couple days back. It was about Singaporeans filling up fuel in Malaysia. I guess you are onto something.

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PhysicallyTender 3 days ago +13

Singaporeans refueling in Malaysia is their weekend hobby. Crisis or not.

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jonshlim 2 days ago +2

And jerking their cars while pumping to squeeze in every last drop of petrol.

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ISDSocialMedia 3 days ago +1

Some Singaporean pumps fuel with RON95

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GS916 2 days ago +2

Which illegal

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nintendude02 2 days ago +1

That’s another problem lol. The famously too-nice-and-too-afraid-to-commit-crimes Singaporeans like to refuel in Malaysia with subsidized RON95 because it is cheaper. It is also illegal. Then again, Malaysia is also to blame for not implementing systems to counter this. Petrol station staff and police will try and stop you if you’re Singaporean, but that’s of course ONLY IF they catch you. However, Malaysia just recently started banning foreign cards for RON95 purchases. Took them a war to finally do it. Singaporeans are allowed to purchase RON97 tho, which is still cheaper than their own RON95. Despite all this, you can still see a lot of butthurt Singaporeans complaining about it. Malaysia and Singapore will still be besties if shit goes down the drain. They’re like the siblings that always fight.

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the_jokes_on_u 3 days ago +8

It’s almost like Irans leverage is not guaranteed, and is on a timer. If every country prepares to play ball, it works. But eventually globally they’ll find a solution that doesn’t allow a terrorist regime to control a portion of the global economy.

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GrumpyGramps1812 3 days ago +1

Just realized you can replace 'It's almost like Irans leverage' with 'It's almost like Trumps leverage' lol, seems to work for both.

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the_jokes_on_u 3 days ago +1

…The US leverage is that they’re going to bomb the hell out of them still… Don’t really need leverage when you’re kinda just killing everyone lol.

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300baicodethieunhi 3 days ago +2

Singapore has a population of approximately 6 million, and taxes on petroleum products are incredibly high. Just one or two tankers are enough to sustain them for a period of time, so their demand isn't particularly high. They don't necessarily have to rely on oil from the Strait of Hormuz to guarantee their supply.

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lkc159 3 days ago +2

We refine and export oil. We're like top 5 in terms of the oil trade and top 10 in terms of refinery trade.

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the_jokes_on_u 3 days ago +4

I understand that, but economically Singapore is a massive country. They are one of the global leaders when it comes to maritime logistics and trade. They have a significant amount of influence economically in South East Asia and others may follow suit.

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UnitedSign2315 3 days ago +3

Vivian's got more balls than that Macron.

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Ok-Confidence-403 2 days ago +1

Despite having such a name

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PastLettuce8943 3 days ago +2

Does Singapore have many ships going through the Strait? I don't think we as a country have the funds to pay for private company's shipping.

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Party-Ring445 3 days ago +1

Does 1000-3000 ships daily count as many?

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evilfungi 2 days ago +1

We are in Iran's bad book for supporting Israels attack supposedly, unfortunately they aren't not going to let us off the hook so easily. Our government is still very Pro-America even at this moment.

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Tanglin_Boy 3 days ago -1

Singapore has wise leaders, unlike spineless Spain, France and the Western European countries bowing to terrorist regimes.

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Tanglin_Boy 3 days ago -2

Iran’s selective blockade of the straits of Hormuz is ILLEGAL, violating international law of UNCLOS.

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Party-Ring445 3 days ago +2

You do crazy things when you're under attack..

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Dependent-Curve-8449 3 days ago +1

And just who is enforcing this rules exactly? 🙃

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h1ho 2 days ago +1

You are right. When I brought this up in the Navy I was shut down by an ME. They can cry “foul” all they want, there really is no enforcement. The ones who insist the Law is sacred will violate it when it suits their purpose

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Inertiae 3 days ago -16

its not like singapore can do anything

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Haakon_XIII 3 days ago -9

One boat less.

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Intentionallyabadger 3 days ago +7

All Singaporeans males go through conscription.

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StayFit8561 3 days ago +6

That's not true. Its a small country, but they have a military. They spend a tonne on modern equipment relative to their size. In their navy they have 6 submarines, a bunch of frigates, corvettes, landing ships. They dont have a huge military, but they can certainly make an impact as part of a coalition.

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sig_figs_2718 3 days ago +5

Singapore spends more on the military than any other ASEAN country.

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Kkwertyy 3 days ago +4

How are you so confident spouting easily verifiable nonsense?

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Express_Upstairs_668 3 days ago -15

Vassal state of the USA should keep quiet. The little red dot does not have anything to bargain anyway.

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binura15 3 days ago -3

idk why you’re downvoted for the truth

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Express_Upstairs_668 2 days ago

The truth will be harsh reality for people who live in this authoritarian country. Everything seems fake and all just a facade from true reality.

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