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thereoncewasahat Apr 23, 2026 +805

'Top gun reenactment was a f*** up, sir.'

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obeytheturtles Apr 23, 2026 +68

"Keeping up foreign relations - you know, giving the bird"

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Koala_eiO Apr 23, 2026 +492

The generation that cannot let go of its smartphone is already flying jets? > South Korea's air force suspended the wingman pilot, who has since left the military to work for a commercial airline. Oh oh.

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Ginger_Anarchy Apr 23, 2026 +120

I'm honestly surprised to learn any military allows personal cell phones in the cockpit . Seems like a obvious distraction and security risk.

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Koala_eiO Apr 23, 2026 +44

Yes, they should stay in the locker and be only available during free time. Plus there is the risk of hacking, listening to conversations, etc.

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InflatableLabboons Apr 23, 2026 +12

During free time? Like when they're getting their daily jog?

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PicanteBoloni Apr 24, 2026 +8

What do you mean "Strava threatens OPSEC" ? /s

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Jerri_man Apr 23, 2026 +9

Sure but a lot of military flying, including for fighter jets, is moving from one distant place to another and monitoring autopilot for 10 hours. Not saying it's the case in OP but they have plenty of boring downtime

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Badgrotz Apr 23, 2026 +18

Like most rules in the military it would only be enforced after something went wrong.

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Potates42 Apr 23, 2026 +83

Note to self: don't fly Korean Air

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a1usiv Apr 23, 2026 +41

Meh. Their in-flight bibimbap might be worth dying for. I just hope we don't crash before meal service.

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foxracing1313 Apr 23, 2026 +11

Hold up

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Character_Minimum171 Apr 24, 2026 +2

so damn good the reason I flew KA for a few years also the overnight hotel in Incheon was an awesome free perk

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anunnaki_marauder Apr 23, 2026 +11

It's actually a great airline, now.

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fjelskaug Apr 23, 2026 +1

They switched to only speaking English in the cockpit to remove the natural hierarchy when speaking in Korean, after the crash of a Boeing 747 Flight 801 where the first officer and flight engineer didn't dare to challenge the captain's mistake

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Dullcorgis Apr 24, 2026 +3

I don't trust that the language will stop them deferring to authority.

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fjelskaug Apr 24, 2026 +1

That's cool if you think so. Korean Air thinks otherwise and believes on its success of overhauling the company into speaking English https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/korean-labor-law-understanding-cultural-differences-work-bongsoo-jung

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xjpmhxjo Apr 23, 2026 -7

Then it must be Asiana

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RecentSpecial181 Apr 23, 2026 +6

Korean Air just bought Asiana and they're merging

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shayKyarbouti Apr 23, 2026 +1

[ Removed by Listnook ]

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ApacheOc3lot Apr 23, 2026 +8

I get what you're saying, but this happened in 2021. From my experience with the South Korean military, they very much care about optics. Not saying what the pilots did was justified, they should have had a separate plane taking the pictures.

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dontknowshiitake Apr 23, 2026 +316

“South Korea's air force suspended the wingman pilot, who has since left the military to work for a commercial airline”. Better not be my f****** pilot

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gbghgs Apr 23, 2026 +186

It's fine, pretty much any big commercial jet is a two seater. That way one pilot can take photos while the other poses.

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Appealing_Apathy Apr 23, 2026 +20

They also can take off and land almost entirely on autopilot. My grandpa told me it was possible when he was a flight inspector in the 90's so I can only imagine what they can do now.

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MSeager Apr 23, 2026 +16

I don’t think it’s on commercial planes yet, buy Garmin has a full emergency landing system you can install on planes now. Like the pilot or passenger presses a button and the plane will declare an emergency to ATC, navigate to an appropriate airport, communicate with the airport ATC, and land. I believe it’s already been used for a real emergency where the pilot had a medical emergency.

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chodeboi Apr 23, 2026 +6

Yes, and in the documented case both pilots remained in full capacity (despite the medical callout) and were able to closely monitor controls on descent.

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JGPH Apr 23, 2026 +1

Interesting, got a link with info? I'd love to read about this event.

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chodeboi Apr 23, 2026 +2

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/plane-emergency-landing-colorado-autoland/ with this you can track down the actual case

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Easy_Branch_6178 Apr 24, 2026

Garmin the watch company?

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MSeager Apr 24, 2026 +3

Traditionally Garmin is a GPS Navigation and Communication Technology company. They do a lot in the marine and aircraft device space. Then they shrunk the tech into smart watches.

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100BottlesOfMilk Apr 25, 2026 +1

Garmin is mostly a GPS company. I used a handheld GPS of theirs hunting sometimes before I had a smartphone. They have a side buisness of watches

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Easy_Branch_6178 Apr 25, 2026 +1

Never knew that. Thanks

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butthole_lipliner Apr 24, 2026 +1

Sometimes I am truly astonished by what the general public is willing to believe about aviation. I can’t imagine how much it would suck to have a plane full of pax who blindly believe the “plane can just land itself!” I don’t know how the airline guys do it, really.

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Appealing_Apathy Apr 24, 2026

Yes you still need a pilot, but I am fairly confident my grandfather who trained fighter pilots prior to his civil career was not lying to me.

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butthole_lipliner Apr 24, 2026 +3

Yes, he more than likely was not *intending* to lie to you; he just had a gross misunderstanding of how the tech behind CATIII Autoland works, the level of training/skill/communication/precision needed to execute it, and likely its use case. Which is arguably quite limited in the grand scheme of things. The other comments mentioning the garmin kill switch/auto ATC/ auto squawk 7600 / autoland are correct and extremely exciting developments for the future of safety in aviation. But they are very recent and again, not currently being deployed at any scale outside GA scope testing. We are very very far away from seeing that level of sophistication adapted to any commercial jet for quite some time. But I’m all ears for hearing about how your “fighter pilot trainer” grandpa knows more about autopilot capabilities than an actual commercial pilot.

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HYDROMORPHONE_ZONE Apr 23, 2026 +1

I think they can circle the airport until it’s time to land automatically too. I forget the term for it

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not_the_cicada Apr 23, 2026 +6

Being stacked?

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HumanGrapefruit1027 Apr 23, 2026 +5

Stupid s*** planes

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son_et_lumiere Apr 23, 2026 +2

lapidaisical

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wolfcaroling Apr 23, 2026 -4

It depends on the airport. Most airports now offer ISL approaches but not all.

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Important_Cucumber Apr 23, 2026 +4

the f*** is an ISL approach

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terminalzero Apr 23, 2026 +5

instruments as a second language

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Wigglepus Apr 23, 2026 +4

No no. I'm pretty sure ISL is instrument sign language.

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Appealing_Apathy Apr 23, 2026 +5

I believe they meant ILS approach: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrument_landing_system

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anunnaki_marauder Apr 23, 2026 +17

Korean Air was known as "an industry pariah, notorious for fatal crashes" in the airline industry prior to 1999, resulting in hundreds of fatalities. South Korean President Kim Dae-Jung would call the airline's safety record "an embarrassment to the nation" & would fly rival airliner Asiana. They now have a very good safety record but that was only after a serious overhaul of how things were conducted in the cockpit.

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justaloadofshite Apr 23, 2026 +1

It’s ok he got a dash cam so he’s hands free

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TechnicalSurround Apr 23, 2026 +1

Relax, maybe they are just flying cargo (hazardous cargo).

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uthred1981 Apr 23, 2026 +45

i never used my phone when i flew a jet at mach 2

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mrzaius Apr 23, 2026 +15

No signal?

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uthred1981 Apr 23, 2026 +17

exact, how can i watch my favorite tv show

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MulYut Apr 23, 2026 +6

P****

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uthred1981 Apr 23, 2026 +5

I prefer to use my laptop at that altitude

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MulYut Apr 23, 2026 +3

Chad

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starlordbg Apr 23, 2026 +3

I like scrolling on social media with the afterburners kicked in.

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LoveHurtsDaMost Apr 23, 2026 +2

I did and I have nice pics now. Suckers.

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NotTheHeroWeNeed Apr 23, 2026 +37

“Too close for missiles, I'm switching to my phone!”

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Old-Tea1980 Apr 23, 2026 +130

Does South Korea have a Florida???

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5GCovidInjection Apr 23, 2026 +64

Yeah, it’s Gyeongsangnam-do.

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gratitudenplatitudes Apr 23, 2026 +32

Don’t tell me what to do

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MulYut Apr 23, 2026 -3

Bless you

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zhaoz Apr 23, 2026 +22

Every society haa a Florida!!

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GatorReign Apr 23, 2026 +31

Even Florida, which has Miami.

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amakai Apr 23, 2026 +9

Does Miami have Florida?

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s0ulbrother Apr 23, 2026 +9

Floridas all the way down

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the_second_cumming Apr 23, 2026 +2

Hialeah

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thrownawaymane Apr 24, 2026 +1

Some days I think fondly of the girl I knew from Hialeah. Good times

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unfortunatebag Apr 23, 2026 +1

Cuba

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pimparo0 Apr 23, 2026 +2

I would have gone with Polk County. Depends on what Florida we are Floriding

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Academic_Carrot_4533 Apr 23, 2026 +1

I thought that would’ve been Jacksonville.

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bill4935 Apr 23, 2026 +6

Canada's Florida is just one bar on Church St. in Toronto. On the other hand, our Texas is almost as big as Texas.

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Brief_Hospital_1766 Apr 23, 2026 +1

>*"Canada's Florida is just one bar on Church St. in Toronto."* What about Newfoundland?

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CausticLicorice Apr 23, 2026 +3

That’s Hawaii: -Last Province/State to join? Check -Island? Check -Unique Culture? Check -Non-English Language? Check

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Brief_Hospital_1766 Apr 23, 2026 +6

Same climate, too.

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starlordbg Apr 23, 2026 +1

My whole country is a Florida!

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Grock23 Apr 23, 2026 +1

Bulgaria?

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Kings_Gold_Standard Apr 23, 2026 +1

Camp Hialeah in Busan. it was closed in 2006

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Old-Tea1980 Apr 23, 2026 +1

Ah Seoul…. Gotcha

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stedun Apr 23, 2026 +1

Yes, North Korea.

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Illustrious-Gur-6775 Apr 23, 2026

Does Georgia have a Florida?

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Old-Tea1980 Apr 23, 2026 +3

Country or state?

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Illustrious-Gur-6775 Apr 23, 2026 +1

Country

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GabeIsGone Apr 23, 2026 +57

FIVE GODDAMN YEARS TO INVESTIGATE. Wow, that’s crazy. Guess they wanted to make sure everyone who could be accountable was already gone.

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tmax202020 Apr 23, 2026 +12

Was one upside down like the F14-Mig28 in Top Gun?

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TyrialFrost Apr 23, 2026 +15

>The wingman pilot then abruptly flew his jet up higher and flipped it so that it could be better captured on camera. Yep.

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FischiPiSti Apr 24, 2026 +1

Ok but were they at least blasting Danger Zone?

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Qwahlity_Koalatea Apr 23, 2026 +12

Taking photos of significant flights was "a widespread practice among pilots at the time", the audit board said in a report published on Wednesday. The pilot had declared his intent to do so in a briefing before the flight, according to the report.

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FreeWillyBird Apr 23, 2026 +35

But did they get the selfies?

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Wonderful-Impact-598 Apr 23, 2026 +10

Did they need to check Google Maps?

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Constant_Section1491 Apr 23, 2026 +5

worth it.

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Voderama Apr 23, 2026 +5

Can’t even be in fighter jet traffic without people on their phones smh

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dmh165638 Apr 23, 2026 +3

Was one inverted and using s Polaroid?

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travelerguy0 Apr 23, 2026 +3

Were they inverted?

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ApacheOc3lot Apr 23, 2026 +3

For anyone who didn't/can't read the article, this happened in 2021, both pilots survived. Only damage was the two aircraft.

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phiiota Apr 23, 2026 +2

Doh 😵

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RatherBeSkiing Apr 23, 2026 +2

"contact bridgey" "Contact wingman"

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chantsnone Apr 23, 2026 +2

I’m surprised they’re allowed to bring their phones

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Minimum_Leadership51 Apr 23, 2026 +3

Deserved. If they tell and punish us using the phone in the car or even the freaking bicycle, why should pilots remotely get the idea to do that? Typical F around f out moment and a waste of Korea's taxpayer's money.

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Resident_Trouble_579 Apr 23, 2026 +1

I got a great Polaroid of it

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OkFix4074 Apr 23, 2026 +1

Do they not know how to mount an insta 360 or GoPro?

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shewy92 Apr 23, 2026 +1

I gotta land this plane. But first, let me take a selfie

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HoneyBadger552 Apr 23, 2026 +1

remember kids. instagram posts can wait

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Few_Occasion458 Apr 23, 2026 +1

Uh...eh...umm...oh boy. Must we really talk about flying and playing on your phone?

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majorzero42 Apr 23, 2026 +1

Did they get the pictures tho?

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jjb0ne Apr 23, 2026 +1

what a bunch of 씨🦶 shekkis

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kimsemi Apr 24, 2026 +1

My god teach these people how to use camera zoom.

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OnyxBaird Apr 24, 2026 +1

That’s one expensive picture

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Character_Minimum171 Apr 24, 2026 +1

K-popped off

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vagabond251 Apr 24, 2026 +1

Aaaaashiibaa.

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xxfblz Apr 23, 2026

For years, we held summer camps at my uni. Everytime we had a pretend olympics, there were military planes making low passes for ten minutes to ogle at the 120 pretty 20-year old girls prancing around on the sports field. They stopped doing that the day two of them VERY NEARLY collided while not looking in front of them. They were A-10s, so I think they were from the nearby US base in Osan...

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