I was going to make an internet explorer joke, I stg I saw months ago North Korea announced this themselves
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LivingUnglued4 days ago
+12
Eh the original post about her being included in a photo or something wasn’t really confirmed. It was announced as solid proof online of course, but actual security sources more just said “it’s a possibility”. So online comments jumping the gun basically. Now SK is publically saying it’s true.
12
jfjfjfpdpd69695 days ago
+2073
I never thought I would say this but I think we would have thousands of world wide simps for the next NK leader. Crazy times
2073
joelstaz5 days ago
+401
Swarms of “I’d fight for her or I could fix her” incoming 😂
401
OberonJormungander4 days ago
+152
And all from people thrice her age
152
TheMailerDaemonLives4 days ago
+42
Every time I go on threads there are hundreds of posts of young women saying something like this “ugh, why is it so hard to find a boyfriend these days” proceeded by 58 year old men saying “you’re so beautiful” it makes me want to f****** barf
42
bwoah07_gp24 days ago
+23
>proceeded by 58 year old men saying “you’re so beautiful”
You know what's funny? These old men also comment the same things on posts made by completely fictional, AI women.
It's a big thing on Instagram. These men can't see the difference lol 😅
23
Punch_A_Police_Horse4 days ago
+11
I'm just acknowledging that it would be some pretty epic strange.
11
silveira19954 days ago
+2
This cute korean chick couldnt possibly throw me to the hungry hounds!
2
FrostyImplement95655 days ago
+1382
What’s even crazier to me is that a dictatorship had a female leader before America
1382
lordnacho6665 days ago
+339
Still a while before she ascends to power.
Unless I missed him dying today?
339
BasicMatter73394 days ago
+100
Yeah, Kim Jong-Un is only 42 yrs old and when considering his position and how long his father and grandfather lived, he has some 30-40 years still left to rule before his daughter takes over
100
AdmirableParfait39604 days ago
+48
F*** is he really only 42?? Why does that seem so wrong lol
48
BasicMatter73394 days ago
+31
ngl i thought he was like 35 max. The man might be fat but he does look younger than he is.
My uncle is the same age as him but looks like he is 10 years older
31
Debalic4 days ago
+3
I still think of him as the chubby kid who took over after his dad.
3
Pale_Adeptness4 days ago
+3
Right?!
Maybe because we are used to seeing older folks as dictators, and this guy is literally a millennial dictator.
3
JoJo_Embiid4 days ago
+3
but he is in pretty bad health conditions
3
Tricky-Efficiency7094 days ago
+2
Dude will be dead of a stroke in less than 20
2
TheShruteFarmsCEO4 days ago
+309
Sure, but probably even longer before America sees a female president. We’ve run one twice, and each time ended up losing to one of the shittiest humans on the planet. American prejudice runs deep.
309
Final_Squirrel_74624 days ago
+200
To be fair, Hillary Clinton got way too confident and cocky and didn’t campaign well, losing a very sizable lead.
And the way the party treated Sanders really pissed of many democrat voters who didnt care to vote for her and some even voted for Trump as a joke.
Kamala Harris on the other hand couldn’t really do much. She was dealt a really shitty hand. She was part of the previous admin while not having the incumbent president bonus, she was not voted in by the voting base and she had only a couple of months for campaigning.
Trump didn’t win because he was such a great candidate or people hate women. He won because his competition really dropped the ball twice and was not able to mobilize their voter base.
200
5425314 days ago
+62
I'm not an American, but I remember when Clinton called out Tulsi Gabbard, people here on Listnook were calling her a b****. So many "anti-establishment" individuals are now MAGA. The whole thing is so messy.
62
ANyTimEfOu4 days ago
+44
Clinton was the nominee because the DNC thought it was "her turn" after Obama. Debbie Wasserman Shulz was awful and obviously biased as DNC chair. They did everything they could to stop Bernie and disenfranchised many of his supporters in the process.
I say this as a Bernie supporter who reluctantly voted for Clinton and tried to get others to as well, due to how obviously terrible Trump was/is.
44
Persimmon-Mission4 days ago
+27
The Democratic Party should be ashamed of itself for two horrible blusters in recent history:
1) anointing Hillary and sabotaging Bernie
2) anointing Kamala without a primary. This was every bit as much of bidens fault as well.
They just so happened to do both of these things while running against one of the most narcissistic and dumbest humans on earth
27
HendrixChord124 days ago
+82
Harris was so popular that she got 1% of the vote in the 2020 primary. Such a dumb move.
82
Fifth_Down4 days ago
+17
> Harris was so popular that she got 1% of the vote in the 2020 primary. Such a dumb move.
THIS x1000
The fundamental problem with Harris' campaign is that she never had any amount of success at the national level before her presidential run. She was ushered into her role as the Democratic frontrunner in a series of backroom discussions by Democratic party insiders that excluded the actual voters from having any participation in the decision.
In an era where voters have made it clear that they are tired of establishment politics and political insiderism, with a core component of Trump's electoral success is voters see him as the man who broke the GOP establishment, the Democrats responded by attempting the most out of touch, pro-establishment, wrestle control away from the voters and put the decision into the hands of party leaders move possible by finding a way to not have an actual primary election.
And people wonder why Harris lost?
17
TreeInternational7714 days ago
+57
Listnook is so guilty of Murc’s Law. America should have known what time it was and chose Kamala because you don’t let a fascist white supremacist back in power
57
HendrixChord124 days ago
+46
I mean, I thought we were over trump after Jan 2021 but was clearly wrong. Just looked up Murc’s Law and damn that’s real. Republicans don’t question, they just vote. Dems are a larger % of the population and don’t vote en masse like Rs.
46
CiDevant4 days ago
+18
"Democrats fall apart, Republicans fall in line."
One side has the majority of people who quesiton everything and the other side has the majority of the people who question nothing.
18
IamATacoSupreme4 days ago
-1
I think both party bases dont question and just vote blue or red down the line. The issue dems have is getting the people to vote.
I lean Dem and im so tired of the party line being, "We aren't Trump" i need more. What else do they have right now? Bernie was insane with his proposals, Hillary royally screwed up at the end of her campaign, 2024 was so botched its hilarious.
The party is a mess. The MAGA movement is crazy but atleast they are solidified. That's why they keep winning imo. They have succeeded in convincing their base they are in an existential crisis.
The dems just point and say, "Devil!" Okay thanks, we already know that. What's the plan? Oh, a bunch of fragments and nothing for the majority to really jump behind.
No Kings protests ain't doing it.
-1
BalrogPoop4 days ago
+14
But like, you're still voting for them right?
Because if you're smart enough to identify how terrible trump/maga is, but refusing to vote because you aren't inspired because "not Trump" inst good enough then that's not great.
(Never mind that given how terrible the Republicans are, "Not Trump" is actually a pretty significant policy platform. Since it means a functioning central government, public service workers getting paid, and not going down the slippery slope of all the terrible things MAGA is doing to the USA).
It sucks, but you don't always get to be inspired by a political party, they have to have a policy that doesn't turn off more than 49% of voters, and especially in a two-party system, that's almost impossible while actually promising anything cool.
Arguably, the political leaders that inspire the most devotion are the worst f****** people to have run the country, with the sole exception of maybe FDR.
14
IlikeJG4 days ago
+12
They weren't saying that Harris was somehow a worse candidate than Trump or that she shouldn't have won in a sane society, they were just arguing against the idea that she and Clinton lost because they are women.
A common sentiment I see here and elsewhere is that Democrats should stop trying to run women candidates because obviously America isn't ready yet and it's losing Democrats the election.
But IMO it's just one factor among many things and them being women isn't the primary or necessarily even a prominent reason why they lost.
Yea I'm sure there's many people in the country who are straight up directly sexist and would never vote for a women, but most of those people would never vote for a Democrat either.
12
Full_Distribution8744 days ago
+8
Harris got absolutely slammed on "sending young men to war" in a way that I can only consider sexist. They weren't concerned about Trump and his long history of pissing matches with Iran and how he almost started this war back before COVID distracted everyone. They were mad about the thought of a woman being CiC
8
themcsame4 days ago
+3
Indeed.
I'm all for being bewildered that Trump got in twice. But in that same sense, it's also not as if he was up against any sort of actual, high bar challenge. And whilst I wouldn't exactly pin Biden that way either, he did come out on top when he ran.
I mean, outsider looking in, it really seemed like the big 'point' of Hillary's campaign basically just amounted to "you should vote for me because I'm a woman".
3
TheShruteFarmsCEO4 days ago
+18
Look, I don’t disagree with your points. But equally I believe we’re fooling ourselves if we think that a white male in the same situations you described would get the same result.
18
Gas0line4 days ago
+3
>But equally I believe we’re fooling ourselves if we think that a white male in the same situations you described would get the same result.
Biden literally is the only one who beat Trump. He would have done so again, even with his age-related mental decline.
3
IamATacoSupreme4 days ago
+17
I dont think there is any way he wins that election. He was a mumbling fumbling mess and frankly embarrassing to watch at that debate. It wasn't going to get better.
17
Persimmon-Mission4 days ago
+11
Hillary also has some pretty bad skeletons. Making her the first female president would be unfortunate because she has destroyed the lives of many of the women that spoke out against her husbands sexual abuse.
She was very qualified, but not very likable. Still better than Trump, but still
11
HunterFeeFee4 days ago
+3
Yeah. She laughed weird.
3
ShermansFieldOrder664 days ago
+2
The imaginary Sanders pity parade is as pathetic as it is unfounded.
2
Choice_Friend34794 days ago
+3
Two of the worst women the democrats could have picked.
3
RontoWraps4 days ago
+14
I say this as a conservative person now, but I voted Hillary in 2016. Hillary is one of the most qualified candidates we have ever seen American history. Her resumé is just exactly what you wanna see out of a career politician. But she did fall into some classic pitfalls, i.e. not campaigning hard in the Great Lakes states not campaigning hard in the mid Atlantic region. Because those are seen as, I don’t know, lower priority, I guess? But those were exactly the votes that she missed out on. She did not resonate with the more middle working class in America. It did not help that Republicans had essentially poisoned the well since Bill Clinton times and then hammered home Benghazi, which most Americans didn’t truly care to try to understand.
Kamala was just a flat out bad pick, but the Democrats were scrambling due to Biden’s mental health and chose to eat the shit sandwich.
14
zoeyzimp4 days ago
+10
I agree with you, people’s memory loss (or is it recency bias?) is insane. Trump’s victory over Hillary was one of the biggest political upsets in recent times. He was absolutely the underdog in 2016 - both to be chosen as RNC nominee, and then to go as far as even win the election.
10
CiDevant4 days ago
+2
If you strictly look at voting it was Male Minorities not turning out and Male Whites flipping that swung the 2016 election. If EITHER hadn't happened, Hillary would have won. It does not take both, but either one. This swing of both groups is what made it such an upset.
To claim it was anything other than misogyny is disingenuous or uninformed. Hillary lost because she was unpopular with men. Full stop.
2
KingPalleKuling4 days ago
+21
Think it had less to do with the gender and more the first being a corporate lizard person and the second being run 3months before the election with a platform that consisted of "uuh I was VP, vote for me!"
21
kalekayn4 days ago
+6
Didn't help that they forced a candidate, who was first out of the primarys in 2020, down people's throats instead of having a primary. A Very undemocratic move
6
IuriRom4 days ago
+2
Ran the two worst plausible female candidates though. Neither of them should’ve been candidates. Pre-Trump nobody really ran explicitly bad candidates.
Will probably get another bad candidate in 2028 though. Whenever establishment sees the Republicans are in a bad place they think they can get away with running an establishment candidate.
2
FrostyImplement95655 days ago
+9
Sheikh Hasina
9
solapelsin5 days ago
+15
I mean, she was elected fairly according to the international observers. I don't think Bangladesh counts as a dictatorship at the time
15
FrostyImplement95655 days ago
+4
Can dictators not come into power fairly at first? https://youtu.be/u1fGtEekdfY her behaviours don’t exactly sound democratic
4
PlusMortgage4 days ago
+6
I want to say no ?
If she came into power fairly, then she wasn't a dictator until the moment she did something to become one (like refusing to give up power).
To give an example, that's why France differentiate the 2nd Republic (with Louis-Napoleon Bonaparte as its only president), and the 2nd Empire (with Napoleon 3 as Emperor) even though the former only lasted 4 years.
6
OuterHeadDebris4 days ago
+3
Both Hitler and Trump became dictators via legal means and changed democratic/legal structures after gaining power to increase their respective control. It doesn't always have to be a coup/junta.
3
inmontibus-adflumen4 days ago
+3
I don’t like the guy, but I wouldn’t necessarily call that orange idiot a dicktaster quite yet, but I could be convinced.
3
MikiTargaryen4 days ago
+3
By that logic Indira Gandhi did it a long time back.
3
BloodshedTom4 days ago
+2
I am willing to bet that whenever she ascends America will still not have had a female president. Project 2025, The Manosphere etc, America is sliding backwards.
2
markmyredd5 days ago
+2
lots of things could happen as well. Like somebody sabotaging her
2
Critical_Text_20674 days ago
+71
The world has had many monarch/dictators that were women. Need to brush up on your history.
71
terminallyonlineweeb4 days ago
+68
Female dictators existed before America was ever colonized
68
3_Thumbs_Up4 days ago
+9
Does the name Cleopatra ring a bell?
9
KingPictoTheThird4 days ago
+43
I mean, pakistan has had a female leader before the United States. The bar is pretty f****** low
43
Raidoton4 days ago
+14
Why? This wouldn't be the first female dictator. And I don't think people would like it if Ivanka Trump was the first female dictators of America.
14
Jealous_Response_4924 days ago
+4
There's already been more than a few female dictators, here's a supposed top 10 list
[https://newarbitrage.com/female-dictators-in-history/](https://newarbitrage.com/female-dictators-in-history/)
4
big-papito4 days ago
+9
Don't fool yourself - a female dictator is usually bad news. She will always be on the lookout for any men thinking that she is "soft". That leads to some pretty bloody "statements".
9
Pockydo4 days ago
+39
My cute dictator webtoon is becoming reality
39
sausage4mash5 days ago
+35
Yeah and the " look at the strong independent women" tropes ,we are living in stupid times
35
AdFeeling8425 days ago
+19
listnook stocks will plummet when millions of listnookors seek asylum in north korea
19
Background_Elk_15194 days ago
+17
She’s a child
17
Equal_Tadpole27164 days ago
+5
Yeeeaaah I'm really hoping they're confusing her with his sister, who I'd understand has a number of folk thinking "I can fix her"
5
Leather-Ad-62944 days ago
+3
listnook is filled with p*** addicted pedophiles. I've been downvoted on several occasions for saying 14 year olds cannot consent.
3
hanr864 days ago
+4
More nukes uwu?
4
ElectricFuneral944 days ago
+9
There's already simps for his sister so this isn't surprising.
9
BestCoastWaveTrain4 days ago
+6
She is 13 years old
6
xVelehkSainx4 days ago
+7
….she’s like 12 or 13. Relax.
7
feel-the-avocado4 days ago
+3
This may not be a good thing if she carries the same evil cruel personality traits as her aunt
3
TheBatemanFlex4 days ago
+7
A minor no less.
7
ManiaGamine4 days ago
+2
Uh have you seen how Trumpers act towards him? How much money they throw at him? They are total SIMPs for him and they range in the millions.
2
harribel5 days ago
+7
I can fix her
7
Leather-Ad-62944 days ago
+15
she is 13 years old.
15
Money_Do_24 days ago
+2
Of course
This iranian incursion has proved their method correct. Compare to Iran/Cuba, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine.
At the US' helm, the best course of action is
1) get nukes
2) prove you can launch them.
If you do these two, you achieve peace. Nothing else is safe
2
kmyash5 days ago
+1333
A woman dictator? I love seeing women succeed in men's fields 💜 #girlpower
1333
KingKooooZ5 days ago
+137
[The Onion being relevant](https://youtu.be/iEtw3XJoJrE?si=un1-b4CBsPXAbkQh)
137
CypherDomEpsilon4 days ago
+61
And a young dictator. I was sick of old dictators.
61
joker_wcy4 days ago
+10
Kim Jung Un was also young when he started
10
newpua_bie5 days ago
+75
We need a new term, d***-tator feels too narrow here
75
No_Street88745 days ago
+85
Cunttator
85
hanr864 days ago
+20
Sounds like potato chips Gwyneth Paltrow would sell.
20
takesthebiscuit4 days ago
+3
The bag is literally just chip flavoured air
3
GenericUsername20564 days ago
+2
This sounds very similar to the _agnomen_ (nickname) given to Quintus Fabius Maximus, 'Cunctator' ('the delayer').
2
WaterPrivacy5 days ago
+18
I don't think calling her pussytator is any better
18
analoggi_d0ggi5 days ago
+19
Vagyrant.
19
dexter304 days ago
+9
Despotcita
9
Dzotshen4 days ago
+13
Clitator
13
exprezso4 days ago
+2
D***-tucker
2
Blenderhead364 days ago
+13
More 👏 female 👏 dictators! 👏
13
trippysmurf4 days ago
+2
Reminds me of Star Wars: Squadrons, where the entire Imperial roster was POC LQBTQ+ war criminals.
2
Apprehensive-Log36385 days ago
+391
I don't have knowledge or insider information on this, just conjecture. But I am worried about an extra repressive regime. The world is very sexist. Got to imagine there will be pressure to be significantly more brutal to demonstrate strength.
391
FlashFox245 days ago
+166
Exactly. Just like Japan's current Prime Minister. She is extremely right. Japan is scarily becoming an extreme nationalist like a certain time in the past.
Edit: same intent more specific because people stated Japan has never not been nationalist. Fair.
166
randomrreeddddiitt4 days ago
+63
Again? When were they not?
63
SapporoBiru4 days ago
+83
It's so weird. A woman as a president actively going against women's rights. Unfortunately says a lot about the state of the country
83
mosquem4 days ago
+55
I guarantee the first woman president will be a Republican.
55
SuMianAi4 days ago
+91
people keep ignoring reality of japan. a xenophobic, sexist hellhole
edit: weebs are so f****** delusional, it's just.. wow. you are all disgusting
91
slytorn4 days ago
+5
What a concept. Enjoying the products and positive culture aspects of another place, while also criticizing the negative aspects of their society. Almost like things can be complicated.
For real though, so many people will just focus on the things they like, so they will find ways to excuse or ignore it. Unfortunately that also does a disservice to the people that live there that DO want to make Japan a better place.
5
-Bento-Oreo-4 days ago
+2
The best way to gain power when you're not part of the power group is to conform.
2
ScholarPink4 days ago
+49
To say that Japan is becoming nationalist again is crazy inaccurate.
49
randomrreeddddiitt4 days ago
+67
Exactly. "Becoming" and "again" suggest it wasn't at some point.
67
Vile_Vava4 days ago
+5
You know the internet.
Racism, sexism, xenophobia, historical revisionism 🇺🇸=🤬 (as it should be)
Racism, sexism, xenophobia, historical revisionism 🇯🇵=😍 (but trains, catgirls, polite)
5
claytonbeaufield4 days ago
+12
Japan is one of the most nationalist countries...
12
Task_Defiant5 days ago
+52
Assuming his sister doesn't arrange an accident for daughter dearest first.
52
Appropriate-Ad-32194 days ago
+7
I really wouldn't want to be in these people's shoes.
7
geo_prog4 days ago
+2
Yeah, his sister seems unhinged.
2
inmontibus-adflumen4 days ago
+23
If nothing else, we know that he’s a certified #girldad
23
danivus5 days ago
+155
Good for her. Always good to see women in male dominated fields, like evil dictator.
155
chilibread015 days ago
+157
Some of the comments are kinda gross, she's like 12 or 13 this year.
157
where-sea-meets-sky5 days ago
+66
yeah i was so confused bc it sounded like they were talking abt an adult when last i checked she was a child
66
IrredeemableDegen4 days ago
+64
I think some people at least are confusing his sister for his daughter. People have infamously simped for his sister.
64
kiss_my_what5 days ago
+36
So right in Trump's wheelhouse then?
36
lordillidan4 days ago
+29
Do you think this makes the comments less gross?
29
Dr-Billa4 days ago
+7
They elected a pedo president. What do you expect from them? They are like their leader.
7
Cicer4 days ago
+3
Dictators don’t age like normal people
3
icntclicse5 days ago
+55
Where is she now? Study in Switzerland?
55
gabiroba_azul5 days ago
+51
No. Probably the real successor is.
51
Love-That-Danhausen5 days ago
+36
Kim only has daughters and sisters I believe (after having his brother killed), so it’ll likely be her or another woman in the family.
36
Key_Tomato_52165 days ago
+11
I don’t know where it was but I have seen somewhere that he supposedly has a son that is even older than the daughter. I thought as the first born the throne would go to him.
Maybe he doesn’t want to or is not “dictator material”.
11
gattar54 days ago
+24
what's the point of blatantly making shit up like this?
>I don’t know where it was but I have seen somewhere
listnook, from someone as clueless as you are. why be coy about where you read it?
24
Durpulous4 days ago
+6
He's not making anything up, he said he couldn't remember where he saw it.
>Ju Ae is the only known child of Kim Jong Un and his wife, Ri Sol Ju. The NIS believes Kim Jong Un has an older son, but this son has never been acknowledged nor shown on North Korean media.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0e1g7kwglo
So nothing confirmed but South Korea's intelligence service believes it might be the case.
6
Key_Tomato_52164 days ago
+3
Because as I stated I don’t remember. I thought I was very clear about that.
3
Durpulous4 days ago
+2
You were and you're also not wrong, it's not confirmed but South Korea's intelligence service believes it to be the case so you probably read something like this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0e1g7kwglo
2
Key_Tomato_52164 days ago
+3
Thank you. I knew i read something about a son.
3
mosquem4 days ago
+4
Is it a Zuko situation?
4
Murky_Conflict37374 days ago
+2
Or the son is disabled in some way.
2
Key_Tomato_52163 days ago
+2
I did not even consider that possibility… Would make a lot of sense.
2
No_Street88744 days ago
+4
Wow, what are the odds, a large wealthy family that only has women.
4
qnttj4 days ago
+2
Wrong info he has two brothers but killed one and another lives in fear of execution. Sister took a role of public speaker so more presence in media
2
hurricane_news5 days ago
+5
I don't get it though. Aren't dictatorships inherently unstable due to power struggles and power vacuums ? Won't his ministers get pissed that Kim picked a literal child over them just because she's his daughter, and fight back to claw power?
5
FKJVMMP4 days ago
+32
There’s been no shortage of familial dynasties that have lasted hundreds of years throughout the history of human civilisation. To the point it’s just about the standard. They’re shit for a great number of reasons but instability isn’t one of them - instability in these sorts of dynasties generally comes about when there isn’t a clear successor and people get into squabbles about who the next person up should be.
32
urbanacrybaby4 days ago
+2
It's a tricky balance though. Announce the successor too early and the remaining siblings have time to scheme together to kill/depose the successor. Announce your successor too late and you die leaving a power vacuum.
2
Catch_0225 days ago
+4
A fight to be the one who manipulates her no doubt. She could surprise them by executing them.
4
normie_sama4 days ago
+3
I guarantee there's a powerful faction backing her, and Kim Jong Un has decided they're strong enough to put his chips on her as his successor. Maybe she was his first choice anyway, maybe not, but he's not stupid enough to try and impose his succession on his own and risk everything he, his father and grandfather "worked" towards.
3
bslawjen4 days ago
+3
NK has a cult of personality around the Kim family, the next successor was always gonna be somebody from the Kim family because of that. Doesn't mean some people won't try to powergrab, but picking somebody that isn't from the Kim family would go against one of the fundamental "truths" NK was built on.
3
MoreFeeYouS4 days ago
+23
Millenialls...I don't want to make you feel old but Kim Jong Un is 42 years old and already talking about a successor.
23
IANALbutIAMAcat4 days ago
+3
Woah
3
myusrnameisthis5 days ago
+18
Credible intelligence? They basically announced it lol
18
BannedAgain123415 days ago
+82
Hope she brings peace and stability !!
82
Uchiha_Madara_Nipple5 days ago
+181
Press “F” to doubt
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vyxanis5 days ago
+29
It would be pretty funny though.. kinda like if baron came out as staunchly opposed to his moldering cadaver of a father
29
Uchiha_Madara_Nipple5 days ago
+12
Barron doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things cuz America for all its faults is a democracy.
12
calgy5 days ago
+32
That previously has not stopped Americans from electing the son of a former president as president.
32
AMadWalrus5 days ago
+5
Keyword is elect.
5
No_Street88744 days ago
+6
No. Bush wasn’t elected, he was appointed by the Supreme Court. Then he joked about being king, started decades of wars, killed millions of innocent people, and tanked the economy.
6
GoingAllTheJay4 days ago
+4
Can you source the king comment?
I *know* Trump made that joke. I paid a lot of attention to W's presidency, but don't recall the same from him.
4
Strict_Strategy5 days ago
+4
In name only considering all of you politicians are getting money from Israel using it's lobbying efforts.
4
Adventurous-Jump-3705 days ago
+6
maybe, maybe not, lets see how the next lot of elections go.
6
vyxanis5 days ago
+2
I know. It would just be funny if he did
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Passp0rt_Br05 days ago
+24
You forgot the /s.
Sadly female rulers are often more brutal and vicious than male rulers because they had to not look weak to stay in power
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ifnotawalrus5 days ago
+3
Is this actually true. I'm running through a mental list of female rulers and it isn't exactly a particularly brutal bunch.
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xX_420DemonLord69_Xx4 days ago
+11
I think they’re referring to a study that found queens started more wars than kings, but the conclusion wasn’t as simple as “women are more brutal”.
One of the explanations was that women would most often come to power after the men had been killed during turmoil, and those violent times resulted in more wars being waged.
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Passp0rt_Br05 days ago
+12
Bloody Mary, queen of England. Wu Zetian, empress of China. It’s true that there are more ruthless male rulers out there that killed millions. By nature these female rulers are probably also not ruthless, but the system didn’t allow them to be kind, in order to survive they had to be brutal
So yeah let me rephrase that, female rulers can be just as brutal as male rulers
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ifnotawalrus5 days ago
+5
By all accounts Mary was a devout catholic and her purges were religious in nature no? I would characterize her more of a person who commuted crimes due to a sick personal belief system rather than a Machievelan realist willing to commit atrocities to maintain power. She's especially a bad example as Elizabeth was also a female queen in the exact same time period and was not an immoral ruler, at least by the times standards.
I'm not familiar enough with Wu to comment, aside from the fact we can probably dismiss much of what was written about her as later propoganda.
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Mechzx4 days ago
+3
Queen Ranavalona of Madagascar comes to mind. I would read up on her infamous boar hunt.
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beyonddisbelief5 days ago
+9
You jest, but I had been thinking about a pragmatic and rational motive behind this since the first public appearance photos and the tank photo. I think I just came up with a theory.
It’s not a simple matter of heir personality/competence/favoritism or some purely altruistic equality/feminism move (though it IS notable that he ensured his sister and his wife were well educated and that his sister hold high level positions.) It’s legitimate 4D chess - anyone who knows a little more about NK beyond propaganda (both NK and western side of it) knows that regardless of what Kim Jong Un’s personal beliefs and ideologies, he can’t actually change and reform the system as he sees fit; there are powerful military dynasties within the system who could overthrow him given the excuse.
The 3D chess move is simply that he prepped the scene long ago making sure his wife, his sister, his aunt, to be able to support this female heir-apparent daughter when she one day takes the mantle, with his aunt and sister deeply influential within their intelligence system to oust any would be coups and threats to his daughter’s power.
However, the 4D chess move is by recognizing the daughter so young so early, he normalizes her status and influence (especially when she becomes a full adult) at the prime of his own authority, and naturally as his daughter receives training within the military and government institutions she will need advisors and personal guards of her own, who would all be female; more importantly, who would be loyal to her and not to established generals and military dynasties of significant power. And each of these women will receive their own promotions and establish their own influence. With his own wing of absolute loyal officials he can finally age out and replace the established military and actually make changes as he sees fit.
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Low_Solution72255 days ago
+14
Is it your day on earth or something, she’s going to be even more evil then her father
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BannedAgain123415 days ago
+6
I can be hopeful right ?
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DoggedStooge4 days ago
+20
North Korea having a woman as their nation's leader before the US was not something I would have put on my bingo card a decade ago, but it's on there now.
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OnceIWasKovic4 days ago
+6
Was her riding a tank or firing a rifle with her dad the giveaway?
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HussingtonHat4 days ago
+5
Wasn't this in the news like a few weeks ago?
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Uchiha_Madara_Nipple4 days ago
+2
Yeah Ig but they confirmed it with their intelligence agencies now.
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MrBulwark5 days ago
+13
Credible intelligence... Like anyone looking at them happy together lol
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articland05_reddit5 days ago
+10
All North Korea leaders don the same look. Is he going to send her for plastic surgery to look like him?
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AutistInPink4 days ago
+17
They are, in fact, related
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[deleted]5 days ago
+8
Hopefully she has some empathy for her people and is open to changing things for the better over there
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Miragui4 days ago
+4
Not likely, she's trained to be ruthless, and women in power can be more evil than men.
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M1str3ssOfTh3D4rK4 days ago
+6
Epic sexism. That word "can" is doing all your heavy lifting. I'd say some of the most evil and prolific murderer leaders in the world (Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini for example) have all been men.
This isn't to say she won't be evil, or won't be ruthless. She is likely groomed to follow in the historic way of ruling. She could change whatever she wants, but I agree she herself is unlikely to be much different.
However your statement is saying that of all women leaders. Which historically doesn't make any sense, unless you're comparing them to maybe Jimmy Carter or are referring to ancient women leaders I don't have knowledge of.
If she's evil, it won't be because she's a woman in power. It's because she will be trained to lead like her father.
She's also only 12 or 13, and this is an entirely new age. If she studies somewhere she can get a wider worldview, this has the potential to be a huge turning point for NK. That's my optimism.
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airpaulg4 days ago
+3
Great - North Korea will get a woman as president before the United States.
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The_mingthing4 days ago
+2
Depends if Trump has deklared Ivanka to become his successor when he croaks i guess.
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iwishihadnobones4 days ago
+3
Well duh
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Xylus19854 days ago
+6
Wasn’t this pretty public for about a year by now? Were South Korean staying off the internet?
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Relative_Drop32164 days ago
+5
Crazy north korea beat usa to it
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Justryan954 days ago
+5
North Korea "progressive" enough to have a female head of state but the US cant is crazy.
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Teaaddict_5 days ago
+6
Women dictator : 2026 gonna be wild.
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solapelsin5 days ago
+15
She's like 13, and her dad is still relatively young. I think this will take a while
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rcanhestro4 days ago
+5
this is simply appointing her as next in line, if kim jong-un lives for another 40 years, that's the time she has to wait.
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Appropriate-Ad-32194 days ago
+2
And even then I bet there's no garantee that the next in line doesn't change by then.
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rcanhestro4 days ago
+2
yup, this is just "insurance" in case something happens, and the dynasty gets fucked by it.
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EdikTheFurry5 days ago
+5
Kinda makes sense, their leadership runs in their bloodline. Like a shitty monarchy.
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hockenduke4 days ago
+2
NK starting the Matriarchy Revolution!
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Uchiha_Madara_Nipple4 days ago
+3
India and Argentina had female dictators before NK.
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Ashamed_Can3044 days ago
+2
I mean unless our general produces a male heir who else could it be
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jjb0ne4 days ago
+2
the dictarship industry def meeds more women representation
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frenzyguy4 days ago
+2
We already knew she would be the successor tho...
This isn't anything new.
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Frizzoux4 days ago
+2
Wow impressive intelligence work
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[deleted]4 days ago
+5
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macross19845 days ago
+3
North Korea is going deeper into hole each time there is change in leadership. Will the end finally come then?
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Joshua_Kei5 days ago
+8
The Korean peninsula has been relatively peaceful so far tho, at least in terms of state on state conflict. What's this hole you're talking about?
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tun3man5 days ago
+2
Ok... Everyone already expected that
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IAmRules4 days ago
+2
Umm didn’t he state this? Do you really need the Korean CIA to figure that out ?
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Aggravating_Law_13354 days ago
+2
really ? literally no one saw that comming
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cheekeong0014 days ago
+2
so what SK gonna do with that knowledge? send some missiles over there so Kim Fat Boy can change his successor?
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confused_and_desufno4 days ago
+2
As a feminist, I am happy. As a north Korean, I must be.
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