Spain approves plan to give around 500,000 undocumented migrants legal status

Those immigrants are already living and working in Spain. Now they'll pay full taxes and their working contracts will have to also be legalized (to the detriment of their employers, who defraud by hiring undocumented immigrants, but hey boss good immigrant bad).

Do you think that those immigrants are not already working?

Yeah should give a more accurate picture of the situation and probably increase tax take for services. Win win

Jesus is it that bad?? Or are these figures not inclusive of unofficial cash in hand work

In practice there’s usually a paper trail rent records, work history, school/health registrations, even local municipality listings. It’s not just ‘show up and claim it.’ The hard part is proving you’ve actually been part of the system long enough.”

Eh no, you have to prove you have been here, usually by showing the census or utility bills at your name like electricity. And if remember correctly you have to ask police for a "no criminal record certificate" This is aimed mainly at irregular migrants who are living here, a lot of them would eventually become regulars due to family bonds or other way, as 91% are from latam

It's you who has to prove you were there

Not true at all, you must prove you have lived there at minimum 5 months to receive the regularization. All this does is effectively make them a legal immigrant, giving them a 1 year work visa that they must maintain by working and living there.

What a stupud take lmao

Tienes que poder acreditar 5 meses de residencia. Con padrón, informes de entidades que te hayan atendido (Servicios sin hogar, de salud, padrón, atención médica, contratos, etc.). Extranjeria no tienen que demostrar que no estaban antes del corte, ellos tienen que demostrar que si. Y si no pueden, ajo y agua, pa bien o pa mal según lo veas.

that's a lie, there are some condictions and restriction, it's not going to be so easy xD

This comment is an outright lie. Doesn't work like that at all. You should look up how it actually works and then edit your comment to reflect the truth. Oh wait, it's just right wing propaganda.

How can this comment have 250 upvotes, while all the responses correcting it have lest than half that

Why is this lie the top comment? This sub is taken over by bots upvoting propaganda

Perhaps not this one, but you'll eligible during the next amnesty. Or the next one. Or the next one. Or the next one...

Wonder what country is running your account. 7 year old account with stats that don’t match

> This people are already living and working in Spain. Yes, and that's the main reason Spain has 9% unemployment rate and 28% youth adult unemployment rate. Illegal immigrants should be deported.

We have done this several times before and we are not invading any country yet. Americans should try

Illegal immigrants already work there.. by having them registered and made permanent residents, they now contribute to the country by paying taxes for the help they've been already getting. Spain has been very open to immigration based on hardship. In fact, for any immigrant coming from any of the hispanic countries in America (including the US Territory of Puerto Rico) you can apply for citizenship if you've already established 2 years in Spain vs 10 years for anyone else. And guess what? It has caused minimal issues.. in fact.. spain also has universal healthcare and gun control - and it has survived for years on the same principles.

I didn't see contributing to the economy as a listed requirement.

Do you think a country has a duty to its own citizens ahead of non citizen immigrants? If you think yes, then spain should make sure those jobs are offered to its own citizens first before undocumented immigrants take them Spain unemployment is 10% so its not like there arent citizens who need work. If you think a country has zero duty to its own citizens, then your answer will obviously be diffeent.

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The government argument is literally that they need people "for harvesting crops and cleaning"

Anything short of shooting them at the border is "incentivizing illegal immigration" for you people.

Tell this to Norway, Sweden, Germany, England, Belgium and other occupied countries. All these doctors and engineers are not assimilating.

Not like America which is showing the world how to rule a country

They are already living here you genius

This is for people who have been already living in Spain illegally for quite some time

As someone from Spain, the housing crisis is not caused by immigrants. The people being given legal status are already living in Spain, these houses have already someone living in them. The housing crisis comes from a combination of factors. For starters, there are a lot of foreign companies that own a fuckton of buildings and control the market. They LOVE speculation and getting richer. Another factor is the massive tourism industry, which incentivizes using free aparments for airbnb and short-term rentals over renting them to people who're actually gonna be living there. And yet another thing is the expat culture. People who come from countries like Norway, the US, Germany, Russia, etc and work remotely at foreign companies that pay a lot more on average than Spanish companies can afford these incredibly expensive rents and drive locals out of cities. Illegal immigrants who come here to get the shittiest jobs possible (because they are hired by assholes who see someone easy to exploit for c****) cannot afford rents in big cities. So they have very little to nothing to do with the housing crisis.

And mass unemployment, esp. in the same age group as most illegal immigrants, in which it's already > 20%.

those people usually works where no one want to work. the real problem for spain youth are the same of your country.... al those jobs cuts thanks to AI

They are already here, but we should limit foreigners that buy properties to speculate or second houses

They're already there

The problem isn't illegal immigrants, but wealthy foreigners buying houses to turn into Airbnbs; some own more than 2,000 properties. THEY are the problem, not a handful of undocumented immigrants living in a c**** house with several other families.

The housing problem is a mere annoyance when you realize that the real crisis is the population crisis. Without immigration, Spain won't be able to support its aging population, the same crisis is true for most of Europe. That is what the neofascist political parties exploit calling «replacement» throughout the continent, without being able to provide a sensible alternative solution.

Quoted from the article: >The Funcas think-tank estimates that there are around 840,000 undocumented migrants in Spain, the vast majority of whom are Latin American.