Spain closes airspace to US aircraft involved in Iran war

Learning isn't really an American strong point.   Look who they voted in ... twice.  

First of all sir I’m not American. This is Listnook, just cause I speak English doesn’t place me in the US. And this isn’t a zero sum fallacy, it’s not you’re with us or with the terrorists. You guys on here have been burned by past wars, youre still seeing G. Bush n your dreams, and you’ve spent too long commenting and reading comments on Listnook, and now you can’t believe someone has a different opinion than the braindead mainstream. It’s absolutely it’s true: by preventing the US from using airspace, Spain are actively getting in the way of US ops, trying to make it harder to attack the Islamic republic. This is not “neutrality”, it’s a huge assist and show of support to the Islamic republic. It’s a stance on the issue. All involved parties know that the IR’s main weapon is propaganda + low cost military dirty tricks aimed at influencing public opinion, and a country like Spain doing this is in fact a strong message to them that their methods are supported. Moreover If you know anything about Spain, you know about Sanchez’s party and how they’ve liked the IR in the past, how they have deals with them, how the IR has thanked them profusely for support, how they don’t like seeing them go. This isn’t about “Spain being neutral over history”, what kind of short sighted insight is that, please! It’s like you read the book cover and called it a day, you’re cooked! Actually my congratulations to the Spanish poster were sincere. Clearly picking a side is much more respectable than pretending to be “neutral”. The perception of neutrality that all of you are pushing for is just weak personality, it’s cowardice hidden behind a false, smug, self righteousness. At least clearly choosing a side can be respected, it’s honest. But your claim of neutrality, while having your hands dirty in this, is pitiful and disgraceful. It’s ok to dislike war, but to have a hand in it and then pretend like you don’t is the lowest possible action in front of it.

That's an absurd claim, far detached from the actual reality. It's a lazy and incongruent comparison. While the IR explicitly \*sanctions\* r***, killing of their own citizens beyond all deniability, the US does not sanction it whatsoever and punishes it by law - despite it still getting through the cracks. But those are cracks. If someone rapes/kills citizens and is not punished, in the US, they are slipping through the cracks of the law, or of the political climate. But the US do not use r*** deliberately, they do not weaponize it in mass. The do not deliberately machine-gun rows of their own citizens in the streets, they do not have torture chambers for their protesting citizens. If someone is caught doing something like that, in the US, they are tried, and if enough evidence is shown they are punished according to law. If Trump is proven to be a child rapist, as you say, then he is to be punished by law in the US. If he has done it but it can't be proven beyond doubt, he will slip through the cracks, and get away. On the other hand in Iran, the IR uses r*** and killing systematically, it uses it deliberately as a weapon, and in mass. In Iran, there is no possibility of punishing those that are raping and killing the populace. If Trump has actually raped children, I sincerely hope he is punished under the full extent of the law. It's a reality in the US. But he is not raping kids in Iran with this war, is he? In fact, the US is killing in Iran - they is killing the very killers and rapists who have sanctioned and performed the killing and r*** of Iran's own unarmed citizens. How can you have a problem with that? Do you support r*** and death in Iran?

[Are you talking about yourself?](https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/lang/en/presidente/news/paginas/2025/20250622-spain-nato-agreement.aspx)

Look it up yourself. 2.1% of GDP as of 2025. This is acknowledged by NATO, regardless of what the propaganda you read says.

Then why should they allow the US to use their airspace for war...if they don't want to participate in war?

How would you feel if Iranian planes crossed Spanish airspace to bomb the US. Would you think Spain was participating in the war or everything was fine?

The US did it using their airspace during the war

Letting warplanes use your airfields and airspace for bombing runs is participating. If only our UK Government could also realise this. Saudi is definitely finding this out. I, for one, am glad they are not participating. Hopefully they get passes to allow their tankers to traverse the Strait asap. Countries need to be rewarded for this correct action against an illegal war.

We agreed to give Ukraine 1B€ just a couple of weeks ago. We've been supporting them since the beginning of the war.

Spain provides millitary and other aid to Ukraine. The US does not.

Exactly zero Spanish ships go through the strait of Hormuz.  Spanish politicians decided such move for the same reason any country's politicians take any decision. Participating in this war is against our interests, that simple.

Just so you know last year we exported an order of magnitude more to Israel than to Iran. It would make no financial sense to  support the small one. The stand is very clearly agains war, as the last time we responded to a USA NATO call on that region, we had terrorist attack on our mainland. As we dont have any nearby conflict this is the most recent event, so no politician wants to be nowhere near this madness.