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News & Current Events Apr 1, 2026 at 5:44 PM

Spain closes off its airspace to US planes involved in the Iran war

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Spain closes off its airspace to US planes involved in the Iran war
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Spain closes off its airspace to US planes involved in the Iran war
Spain has closed its airspace to U.S. planes involved in the Iran war after earlier saying the U.S. couldn't use jointly operated military bases there for operations related to the conflict.
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Imaginary-Ad-7919 Apr 1, 2026 +1
Kudos for Spain. They dare to say the word "NO" to Trump.
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velvettemptressz Apr 1, 2026 +1
It’s trump war, so let him deal with it and stop involving others.
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HablarYEscuchar Apr 1, 2026 +1
Gracias. No se trata de decirle no a Trump. No podemos apoyar una guerra ilegal a un país que no te ha atacado antes. Lo mismo que no podemos apoyar un genocidio. Afortunadamente tenemos el gobierno que tenemos Como gane la derecha en las próximas elecciones, todo puede cambiar. Aunque la inmensa mayoría de los españoles está contra la guerra.
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Twotricx Apr 1, 2026 +1
It really stretches meaning of traditional "alliance" meaning. Not only that other members of so called NATO alliance refused to help USA , but are now even denying airspace similar to countries they would be in conflict with ? If tomorrow Spain would be attacked , other "alliance" members could freely deny request for help or even deny passage of spain forces through their territory. This is not alliance in any sense. Is there really any merit to this this anymore. And is it not curious that this NATO alliance seems to be at point of being cancelled, just in time when Europe countries are at most vulnerable. Having almost no army to stand against a possible Russian invasion ? Why would USA not say, you did not come to our call, why should we answer yours ? As EU citisen I find this very concerning ...
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schoonit Apr 1, 2026 +1
You’re conflating a NATO member being attacked with a NATO member (US) helping a non-NATO state (Israel) in a war against another non-NATO state (Iran). NATO is a defensive alliance, not a tool for Israel and the US to do their bidding.
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Twotricx Apr 1, 2026 +1
I suppose you are completely right. But it still does not answer the whole question. NATO itself is an agreement and any country can step out if it sees the agreement is not serving its interests. After this , what is stopping USA ( and indeed it seems they are considering it ) to simply decide that EU states are no use to them. I mean USA itself is unlikely to come under direct attack - making the clause "we only help you if you are directly attacked" pretty much useless. Since EU countries are much more likely to be attacked - the whole starts to look like one sided deal. And taking your drunk friend analogy. If I was with group of good friends, and for some reason started a fight with another guy. And my friends just stood by watching me being beaten up. Later visiting me in hospital, I ask them "Why didnt you help me" - and they answer "We seen you started the fight first, we would only help if you recieved the first blow" I would very seriously reconsider that friendship...
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Wrath_Ascending Apr 1, 2026 +1
The war against Iran is in egregious breach of international and US law.
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GrapeGroundbreaking1 Apr 1, 2026 +1
You’re as much an EU citizen as Trump is an intellectual.
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ArchonofTevinter Apr 1, 2026 +1
NATO is a defensive alliance. Trump bumbled into his dubious conflict of choice in Iran, and Spain or any other NATO country is under no obligation to help facilitate it. Meanwhile, if Spain were to be attacked tomorrow, NATO would be obligated (and more than willing) to jump to its aid. Because NATO is a DEFENSIVE alliance.
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Twotricx Apr 1, 2026 +1
You are completely right. Being Defensive alliance agreement. Any country is able to step out if they see it does not serve their interest anymore. Seeing how USA being situated on its own continent is very unlikely to be directly attacked - compared to EU countries that border with Russia. It seems that this whole agreement is very one sided. Isnt it ? EU countries are not willing to help USA when it fights to preserve its interests, but if they need protection USA is expected to come running without questions ... I really dont understand what interest USA has in being inside this alliance ? Another curious thing is what is happening in strait of Hormuz. Now that Iran has started taking 2 million dollars for each passing ship. They will not stop. USA does not get their oil suplied by that line so they dont care, but Europe has almost 100% dependency on it. If Trump leave the war now, this will stay that way and Oil in europe will be substentially more expensive. That can not be EU goal? I feel that EU is so weak at this moment of time that their only action is keeping the head inside sand and hoping everything will just pass them by. But will it ? This is why I am so worried about this EU actions
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TigerGrizzCubs78 Apr 1, 2026 +1
That defensive alliance part really confuses some people, especially when that alliance helped the US after 9/11 when the US requested help via article 5, which essentially is "an attack on one is an attack on all". Firing the first shot isn't defense, so NATO has no obligation to help. It's like in a bar, there may be some friends drinking. If one of them gets picked on, yeah the other friends will help. If one of them is drunk and picking fights with everyone, to the point that the bouncer has to get involved, those friends will say "he's not with us"
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