Spain readies for evacuations as a hantavirus-hit cruise ship heads for the Canary Islands

Interesting. Being broke has saved meeee (for now). Thank you!

At a landfill

The flight attendant has tested negative but one of the other passengers has a cough.

She was unwell I believe, so was hospitalised out of caution. But it seems like it was an unrelated virus, possibly just a cold.

Okay, that’s very good news indeed.

Exactly. I was thinking back to the very start of me hearing reports about COVID for the first time. It didn't seem to be anything to worry about until one day it just was. My experience was from working at a plasma donation center so I was able to watch how it went from being nothing to worry about to us having to make a lot of changes to the procedures including one interesting change was the pay was $100 a donation from donors who had gotten sick previously with COVID and could show proof. Those donors were making bank for awhile. They cut my hours because it slowed down and I was kind of jealous I wasn't able to get the $100 COVID pay... and of course the decision to shut down schools was a huge deal that I never expected either.

That one guy? The President of the United States

Your first mistake was assuming the average Listnook user knows how a vaccine works even in the grade school sense.

Agree. Think about how ignorant the average person is. Half are dumber than that.

People deserve access to healthcare. Additionally forcing everyone on the ship to die doesn’t eradicate the virus. It’ll continue to exist in South America infecting hundreds of people every year.

You can’t prevent healthy people from contracting the virus when you keep them locked up on a boat with sick people

Works perfect on my phone and super helpful. What browser are you using?

Straight to an online c***** page.

I lost close friends and family. Something happened to us. 

hidden account spreading old worn out bullshit.... shocking.

Ah yes, lets just ignore that 90% of the population have some forms of health issues, many of which had potential risks with COVID. EG 20% of people in the UK have some kind of lung related disease/illness, which would put them squarely in the problem group for something that targets lungs... like COVID does. And your number is a hindsight number, governments saw a respiratory illness which was highly contagious and went "oh c*** push the middle button" on the reaction table. If you want to know the "big red button" for a proper quarantine for high risk, they deploy the military on the street to start shooting people to stop them from spreading it further.

First and most important point, when COVID initially came on the scene it was a novel coronavirus and the only comparison we had was to SARS-Cov which had a 9-13% case fatality rate. We had no idea what COVID was capable of, so high precautions were very much needed early on as you couldn’t take that chance. The earliest alpha strain was indeed more severe at all, if you average in what Covid is today you get 0.1%, but the %CFR was higher in the initial waves around 1-3%, depending on the reports - as is the ebb and flow of these things. They become less lethal and spread more easily as natural selection pressures favor spread over severity virulence. People like you who brush off potentially very fatal diseases will be the death of millions one day, and you’re just as likely to be among them with a disease like Hanta. Young hikers can contract the disease, and days-weeks later convert to HCPS and die within hours of cardiopulmonary failure with the sin nombre strain. Secondly, the good thing is even though hantavirus has a very high %CFR (30-50% depending on the strain on conversion to cardiopulmonary syndrome) it either doesn’t spread human-to-human or it’s very difficult to do so. Granted, that could have changed but it is reasonable to assume that is still the case since this is a known strain humans have encountered before and is not a novel virus. Until you have sequencing, epidemiological, and symptomology evidence that allows for proof this is spreading human-to-human without sustained, close contact there is less of a need to worry about it, But it is important to keep tabs on. Awkwardly enough, hantavirus is so severe that it isn’t favorable to rapid & aggressive spread because it kills the host so often. So there’s the silver lining?