Evil people act in a predictably rational fashion. Stupid people are unpredictable, so way more dangerous.
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dave84002 days ago
+183
What about stupid and evil?
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darkfrost472 days ago
+81
If we replace "stupid" with "chaotic", then in d&d terms it equals a demon.
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Lexi_Banner2 days ago
+13
Listen, demons couldn't be half as chaotic and wildly evil. They dream of being able to wild out the way Dumpsalot does on a daily.
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RSwordsman2 days ago
+6
I'm struggling to think of how a DnD demon could act worse than he does. No care for others, no shame, not even self-preservation. Are we sure he literally isn't one?
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Lexi_Banner2 days ago
+7
In the Good Omens novel, the demon character (Crowley) explains that humans punish themselves far more creatively and far worse than he ever could.
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ProfessionalITShark2 days ago
+3
He technically closer to a devil DND wise though
3
XRT282 days ago
+39
Not to mention the US has significantly more military and economic power and with it the potential to cause far more damage with a madman at the helm.
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ZumboPrime2 days ago
+60
Remember, Trump is just a symptom. The ultra-wealthy and Republicans have spent literal decades doing their best to guarantee what is currently happening today. News is now propaganda and Americans live in alternate realities depending on what "news" they listen to, education has been underfunded and sabotaged, workers' rights and unions have been gutted, working people are kept poor, desperate, & dependent on employers to afford basic healthcare, gerrymandering and active voter suppression decide elections, and corporations & billionaires control almost the entirety of the US federal government along with swaths of state governments.
Trump is the result of decades of corruption, intentional dumbing down of society, and the deliberate sabotage of democracy.
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dystopianartlover2 days ago
+3
Yup, vance or whoever is likely to have the same direction as trump, but possibly with more competence.
3
TheBigCore2 days ago
+2
Unfortunately, this will never change because the owners of the USA want it that way.
They hold all the cards. They control every institution that matters.
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tophernator2 days ago
+31
Putin actually spent the last 26 years trying to cultivate an image of unpredictable and deliberately confusing behaviour, because espionage becomes much more difficult when no-one is ever sure if you’re lying or not. But Trump is demonstrating that hard work doesn’t always beat natural talent when it comes to this sort of thing.
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[deleted]2 days ago
+14
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Otaraka2 days ago
+7
Its due to the illusion that they're in on the game. Ie hes lying for them, not to them.
"both Republican and Democratic voters provided explicit moral justification for politicians’ statements that were factually inaccurate, especially when they aligned with their personal politics."
And importantly, the study found we all do it. Its just that right now we're kind of swamped by this one.
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noradosmith2 days ago
+2
"He tells lies we want him to tell"
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kaisadilla_0x12 days ago
+6
Yup. Trump is like Putin except stupid. It means he fails more easily, but also that he may just press the nuclear button out of the blue because his feelings got hurt by someone.
Same reason why you'd feel safer with a gangster than you'd do with a monkey. The monkey may not attack you, but if he does, you won't see it coming and it will be brutal in ways no sane human would be.
6
lenzflare2 days ago
+6
It's simpler than that. The US is ten times more powerful than Russia, and Russia would have to get through all of Europe to get to Spain.
6
buy_nano_coin_xno2 days ago
+3
Putin is also pretty stupid. I don't know why people glaze dictators so much.
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TWFH2 days ago
+3
Yes, Putin is predictably committing genocide
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Novinhophobe2 days ago
+4
There’s nothing unpredictable when it comes to actions of the US under Trump administration. Literally everything is in benefit of Russia.
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grathontolarsdatarod2 days ago
+1792
Because he is leading around the world like Putin's chub. Brushing up against everyone, being inappropriate and ruining the mood.
I can't think of much over the last 12 months that the us has done that hasn't been a directed and unprecedented benefit to Russia and Russian interests.
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unusedusername6662 days ago
+493
The Spaniards, great people, beautiful country, they’re saying I’m the greatest treat to world peace. Think of that. A treat. Like a gift. Like a beautiful, delicious gift to the world. Nobody’s ever seen anything like it.
They’ve got me ahead of Putin—way ahead. Not even close. They’re saying, “Trump brings peace, Trump brings strength, Trump brings… treats.” I don’t even know what that means exactly, but it sounds fantastic. Probably means I’m very nice, very generous. Maybe the best.
And I’ll tell you, when Spain says something like that, you listen. They know history, they know leadership. They looked at everybody—everybody—and they said, “Nope, Trump is the one.” Incredible.
So we’re leading in peace, we’re leading in treats, we’re leading in everything. And frankly, the world is a much safer place when I’m around. Everybody knows it—even the Spaniards.
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yuvattar2 days ago
+181
It's crazy that I can easily read this in Trump's voice :D
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flappity2 days ago
+90
It's because he has like 8 total sentence structures he cycles between and just replaces the nouns with other nouns. He's probably said almost exactly these sentences with other places/names before.
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kaisadilla_0x12 days ago
+28
Yup. He speaks like someone who's been learning English as a foreign language for 6 months. Can form sentences and communicate, but their language is very basic and rigid.
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The_Barbelo2 days ago
+6
HorseLooseInHospital is still the reigning champ of Trump impersonation imo. I’m always looking for him in the comments.
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FeelingKind76442 days ago
+9
Treats like never seen before. Billions and billions of treats.
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6arafa2 days ago
+7
we’re so cooked when something like this resonates so much
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Overall-Page-74202 days ago
+9
I definitely read this in Trump's voice
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Any-Star43882 days ago
+9
He owned the libs. That seems like all they care about.
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bboycire2 days ago
+25
Putin is calculated, Trump just throws dart at random things
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Arkhaine_kupo2 days ago
+35
> Putin is calculated
Nothing quite like losing the first Georgia invasion, losing the afghanistan invasion, barely winning the second georgian invasion, and starting a war against a neighbour that kills an entire generation of young men and drowns your central bank in long term payments that you couldnt pay back if you invented the cure for cancer and quantum computing on the same day.
If that is the calculating guy, his ti-84 might be out of bateries...
Putin's only long term success is bamboziling the germans into thinking they were redeemable (and well getting Trump elected).
everything else has gone t*** up for them
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SilveryDeath2 days ago
+30
> Nothing quite like losing the first Georgia invasion, losing the afghanistan invasion, barely winning the second georgian invasion
Putin was elected on December 31st, 1999. So the Afghanistan invasion and first Georgia invasion stuff happened when he wasn't even in charge since that was all in the 80s or early 90s.
Also, you're wrong about Georgia because:
- South Ossetia (who Russia backed) beat Georgia in the First South Ossetia War in 1991-92.
- The War in Abkhazia in 1992-93 who won by Abkhazian (who Russia backed). Abkhazia is still a de facto state today.
- The Russo-Georgian War in 2008, lasted 5 days and Russia won and occupies Abkhazia and South Ossetia as a result.
Look I hate Putin as much as the next guy, but at least get the facts straight.
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Tacti_Kel_Nuke2 days ago
+12
Which invasions of Georgia? The 2008 war where they won? And Putin wasn't in charge when they invaded Afghanistan
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bboycire2 days ago
+8
Well, over confidence is a hell of a drug 😆
There's also a proverb: it's easy to ride a beast, the hard part is dismount (with the assumption that you don't like to get mauled right after)
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buy_nano_coin_xno2 days ago
+4
Putin is also a moron. His war was an utter disaster.
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Alpacapalooza2 days ago
+18
> I can't think of much over the last 12 months that the us has done that hasn't been a directed and unprecedented benefit to Russia and Russian interests.
Yes, Russia profits from the increase in oil revenue but overall they have lost a ton of influence in the region. What is an alliance with Russia worth, looking at what's happened? Zilch.
I think for me this is one of the few times where I'm erring more on the side of him being a useful idiot than intentional agent.
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EnoughPrimary67002 days ago
+23
Too many "idiotic" coincidences? Kremlin praises US for good alignment? Sanctions lifted? If it's too good to be a coincidence, it probably isn't.
(Edit: typo "coincidence")
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ReaperReader2 days ago
+2
Putin's good at looking strong. Not at being strong. Sort of person Trump loves.
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OlGreggMare2 days ago
+3
During Putin's remaining life, have they achieved all of their goals in the region? I'm genuinely curious. Maybe Russia has no more use for the cost of the Middle East. I assume very unlikely
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grathontolarsdatarod2 days ago
+10
They do not require influence when the united states does what they need and want.
If it isn't intentional, why is POTUS basically operating on Moscow time zone?
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Desperides2 days ago
+5
What is an alliance with Russia worth? As much as it ever was. What is an alliance with the United States worth these days? Absolutely nothing.
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cytokine72 days ago
+164
That’s because Putin is quiet
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redacted_robot2 days ago
+88
And calculating.
No way trump could have been a kgb officer.
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Clavicymbalum2 days ago
+35
that's one of the differences between being a kgb/fsb officer and a kompromat-controlled kgb/fsb asset/lapdog/puppet
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__Yakovlev__2 days ago
+9
It's also why I get so annoyed at people calling him an "agent". Like no, he's a f****** "asset" aka an easy to control idiot. "Agent" would actually imply he's calculating and smart and thinks several steps ahead without bragging about stuff that should stay hidden.
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buy_nano_coin_xno2 days ago
+4
His calculations were off in Ukraine by a million Russians.
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AbcLmn182 days ago
+2
Yeah I still don't understand how the f*** did he fail to notice that *his entire army simply doesn't exist*.
This was absolutely obvious to every 18yo boy in the country. And their parents. Like, seriously, it's enough to spend a few hours on your mandatory conscription eligibility medical exam, to see that everyone you deal with is a corrupt, lying, sadistic piece of shit who's only interested in taking bribes, stealing gasoline, and beating boys into submission.
*Everybody knew this.*
Except the president, somehow.
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Sayakai2 days ago
+31
Putin is not quiet. Putin is literally fighting a war of conquest in Europe *and* arming up for the next one.
It's because there's a nuclear power between Spain and Russia.
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cytokine72 days ago
+13
Quiet with his words, not actions. I thought this was implied, otherwise why would he be a threat to world peace in the first place?
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Deuce_GM2 days ago
+13
I agree, Putin isn't quiet at all
But let's be honest the real reason Spain is saying this is because they don't give a f*** about Ukraine
But the second that oil prices are slightly touched then everyone is suddenly ready to fight back
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letruf2 days ago
+9
I don't think Spain doesn't give a f*** about Ukraine or Putin, I think it's the way this question was asked. If you ask who is a bigger threat to **the world,** it's gotta be Trump because Putin only threatens Europe while Trump is totally unhinged atm and has a wider range. But if you ask who is a threat **to Europe**, 74% Spaniards say Putin and 51% - Trump.
(source [https://www.politico.eu/article/poll-eu-countries-us-bigger-threat-than-china/](https://www.politico.eu/article/poll-eu-countries-us-bigger-threat-than-china/) you have to click on the little labels over the first poll to see the results for the US, Russia, and China)
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Spoztoast2 days ago
+12
and he can only really threaten world peace indirectly like say trough Trump. Russia doesn't have the military capabilities to engage in several national wars they barely have enough to keep one front from collapsing.
Outside of the nuclear option Russia isn't a global threat
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Spork_the_dork2 days ago
+2
Yeah realistically by itself Russia isn't a threat to more than Europe at the moment. It isn't going to suddenly invade Kenya or some other country in a different continent. USA has already done that **twice** this year.
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OriginalGoldstandard2 days ago
+52
Just Spaniards?
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Honkey852 days ago
+21
Same in Germany.
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2112168191 day ago
+5
Sadly no. Listnook is biased. Most people vote for cdu and afd. Meaning they don't dislike trump as much as they should
(Cdu is too scared to insult cry baby trump. I won't forget the day the USA abducted Maduro and Merz couldn't stop himself from saying like "It is a difficult situation". Hypocrites
and afd is being heavily promoted by maga )
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This_ls_The_End2 days ago
+9
As a Spaniard, I would be surprised to find out we're the only ones who know this. To the point of asking everyone else "how could you possibly imagine Putin to be more dangerous to world peace than Trump?"
it's like comparing a professional assassin to a monkey who lost most of his brain in a terrible accident and is right now hitting a very large jar of nitroglicerine with a hammer.
If course once you remove the hammer and put the monkey back in his jail he's way less dangerous than a professional assassin, but right now, as we all wince every time the hammer hits the glass, the monkey is more dangerous.
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ned_luddite1 day ago
+2
As an American who’s about to visit your lovely country… I am very sorry some chose this 🙈 again.
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Vrazel1062 days ago
+45
Hes the most hated man on earth
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Whatever_Lurker2 days ago
+224
Stupidity is more dangerous than malice.
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3catsincoat2 days ago
+146
Both combined are the worst. With a dose of malignant, narcissistic megalomania.
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zhbryan2 days ago
+16
Double jeopardy!
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jorgebrks2 days ago
+10
Bing Bong!
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BitRunner642 days ago
+11
Plus dementia.
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Cirenione2 days ago
+12
Also Putin is somewhat predictable. On the other hand Trump may start a war tomorow, decide to tariff his allies for 100% on tuesday and by friday claims none of those things ever happened.
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MeeShaBlue2 days ago
+58
Because Trump has the strongest military in the world behind him, and putins military is very incompetent. They have similar ideals, Trump wields more power.
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thatguywhomadeafunny2 days ago
+40
America is effectively a rogue state at the moment, conducting atrocities at the whims of a madman. Congress is supposed to be one of the checks and balances on the President, but they are sitting back and doing nothing. November can’t come soon enough.
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likely-high2 days ago
+8
Can't even take Iran.
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Not_a_N_Korean_Spy2 days ago
+77
¿porque no los dos?
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Krieghund2 days ago
+13
If there ever was a time for the "Porque no los dos" meme, this is it.
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Spork_the_dork2 days ago
+2
That's not how superlatives work. Only one can be greatest.
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FixedFun12 days ago
+22
Spain's hatred for Trump is quite visible, has been mocked on TV and movies a lot. I like that.
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Tugasan2 days ago
+9
the sentiment in my country is that people have started to really dislike americans, i really think after trump term is over (if it ever over) trust will take a lot of time to be rebuilt if ever that will be possible, i would not be surprised if he does something unforgivable towards us
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Sweet_Concept22112 days ago
+42
Trump is Putin's boy.
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blitzkregiel2 days ago
+23
you misspelled *B*****
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shadyhorse2 days ago
+6
In his defence, he has pootins hand up his ass, so he's basically pootin.
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McBain422 days ago
+7
English here. Trump is the greatest threat to world peace in my lifetime. I'm 50.
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Noah10242 days ago
+7
So do Canadians
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Normaali_Ihminen2 days ago
+45
Trump is an idiot baffoon. Putin on other hand is meticulously planner and pathological liar. So I pick Putin
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mgzkk12102 days ago
+22
> Putin on other hand is meticulously planner and pathological liar.
Trump is an even bigger pathological liar, so much so Captain Hook can count the number of true statement that came out of his mouth, on his hook hand.
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Prestigious-Lab51542 days ago
+8
Putin couldnt even handle Ukraine's "special operation" so he's kinda harmless for the world. Trump however has a gajillion dollars military complex behind his dumb ass
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ChicoZombye2 days ago
+5
Trump is an idiot who's a pathological liar with the biggest and most dangerous army in the world.
I think you forgot some key things on Trump's side, also he behaves like a Russian asset, which means Putin could be the one managing Trump, but that's for another talk.
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ashriekfromspace2 days ago
+10
Trump has more power tho
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epegar2 days ago
+3
1- Trump is a Liar as well
2- Look how long it took Putin (since 1999) and how long it took Trump to be in this debate.
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Shot-Toe-28842 days ago
+5
Yea I get the sentiment but it’s also preposterous. Putin is a cunning and carefully calculated psychopath. Trump is a reckless sociopath that shoots himself in the foot unprompted every week.
One is far more effective than the other.
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buy_nano_coin_xno2 days ago
+2
Ah yes, the meticulous planner that botched the three days operation.
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GNUGradyn2 days ago
+12
The guy who threatened to genocide an entire country because they retaliated to his attacks by closing a shipping route is seen as a threat to world peace? Crazy. Also I bet his supporters will be like "well maybe the world needs a little shake up so America stops getting bullied" or something along those lines. Trump is not particularly predictable but his followers respond pretty predictably
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Friendo_Marx2 days ago
+13
The Spaniards dealt with fascism more recently than most other western civilizations. It takes several decades to forget, apparently.
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Nd3433432 days ago
+5
They aren’t the only ones
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Baxmanpsu262 days ago
+6
Because Spaniards know fascism.
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Aster_E2 days ago
+5
Most of us Americans see it too. Many of us rally and protest, albeit not enough. Many try to make posts or plans online, but the various apps and sites take things down at the best of times. And because the continental region of the country is so massive, with the majority of people, let alone the vast majority of dissenters, being so spread apart, the very act of organizing and joining together is stunted and made Herculean to say the least. But yes, we do see it, and we want him and his sycophants long gone.
Their removal won't fix everything, including the bridges this self-absorbed ass resembling all seven deadly sins has burned in the past almost-fifteen months, but one can hope we can do that much with the system we have left; the system this sack of excrement is trying to dismantle. One can hope enough of us dissenters will finally get up and do something if that fails, because there are too many people relying on our courts, et al., to do the bare minimum.
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ndurtschi2 days ago
+6
Me too Spain! Me too!
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LandOfOpportunities2 days ago
+5
At this point all of Europe and every member of nato consider Trump a bigger threat to their own and world peace than Putin.
Trumps ability to destabilise the current world order and diminish the US’ role in keeping some level of stability means that while Putin is a threat through his actions against Ukraine and likely beyond, Trump is a threat to the entire world.
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Altruistic_Finger6692 days ago
+10
Everybody does. He single handedly caused future global recession with his iran war. Its just waiting for it to arrive.
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DGIce2 days ago
+15
Bigger military and bigger idiot so technically true, but trump is aging a lot faster than putin, and is a lot more likely to be stopped by his own government depending on the vote later this year.
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every-day_throw-away2 days ago
+5
Like Putin but more powerful, more things to blackmail him on and less intelligence.
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JoshuaZ12 days ago
+4
At the start of his second term I'd be skeptical of this. Right now, seems spot on. Unfortunately, a major way he is a threat is not just his own outright aggressive idiocy but also the way he is doing so much of Putin's bidding.
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DirectPepper76952 days ago
+5
Trump is stupid. Putin is not.
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viau832 days ago
+4
Canadians too
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xpda2 days ago
+3
Trump has started more wars than Putin, he just loses interest shortly afterward.
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atreeismissing2 days ago
+4
They're correct. Not because Trump is smarter and more capable but because he has the entire Republican Party pushing those threats and the American people paying for it.
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Expectations12 days ago
+4
Those not in the epstein files see him as a threat, go figure.
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EpsonRifle2 days ago
+11
Hello.
I'm British.
I just wanted you to know:
It's not just Spaniards
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chance_of_downwind2 days ago
+3
Brits and Spaniards agreeing on something. Truly, the end times have begun.
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Objective-Clue50872 days ago
+8
Most of the world does.
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Delde1162 days ago
+51
Spaniard here.
We are scared of both Trump and Putin equally but for different reasons. Russia will intentionally launch a nuke, while Trump will accidentally launch one.
It's like having a trained assassin with a knife vs a toddler with a knife, both are dangerous.
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Deadman_Wonderland2 days ago
+29
Trump will absolutely intentionally launch a nuke. We've had idiot presidents, and we've had vicious presidents, but I don't think we ever been cursed with a vicious idiot for a president until now.
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wggn2 days ago
+10
Are you aware that Trump literally asked why the US isn't using their nukes to win conflicts?
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/trump-asks-why-us-cant-use-nukes-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-reports.html
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alpes18082 days ago
+6
Funy, even though I am no Spaniard, I live in Spain and my experience is that the people I have talked with about both, perceive Putin/Russia as a far lesser threat or even not at all
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UnoriginalStanger2 days ago
+3
Probably reflected in why Spain is dragging its feet in NATO.
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macross19842 days ago
+3
Trump want attention but not this kind of attention. :P
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G33U2 days ago
+3
trump, i mean agent krazznov is russia
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goingfullretard-orig2 days ago
+3
Si, es loco.
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DogblackMichigan2 days ago
+3
I agree.
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o5mfiHTNsH748KVq2 days ago
+3
Threat? It’s a threat in the same way I’d be threatened by someone that’s already punched me in the face.
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Nivius2 days ago
+3
atleast you can imagine what putin will be doing, and his current fuckery is related to the current region he "working" as of this moment.
trump bounce around and create chaos, chaos and more chaos. then f*** it up and create more chaos. he has a bigger effect on the world, then putin, currently, sad but...
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Winston_Sm2 days ago
+3
Not Spanish, me too
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jrgndk82 days ago
+3
Trump, aka "The puppet"
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Overall_Author67512 days ago
+3
Spaniard here. We also him as pedophile.
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Saltlick_Stables2 days ago
+3
I agree with that and I’m American. Our nation had generations of good standing he's managed to destroy within two years. There’s no floor to his cruelty and it’s not hyperbolic to suggest he’s capable of using nuclear weapons against a fabricated threat to accumulate more wealth and avoid accountability with his involvement in the Epstein scandal.
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1911Earthling2 days ago
+3
Saw that coming. Putin does not have the firepower to attack Ukraine right next door like TRUMP can attack IRAN 6,000 miles away. Putin wishes he had that kind of firepower. Trump is definitely more dangerous. Trump can attack anywhere. Nobody can pull up to your coast with an air armada like the USA can with nuclear aircraft carriers.
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Few_Advisor35362 days ago
+3
Im not spanish and i agree. Everyone expects the russians to not play nice, however the US is imbedded in every western nation. Then you have this nutcase in charge that is incredibly volatile. Russia has been relativly contained with sanctions and everyones constantly keeping an eye on them (while we are currently in damage control with war in Ukraine). The shit thing is its not just affecting americans by voting this clown in, everyone else is suffering. First it was stock market crashes due to tarrifs, then the tarrifs, then its supply issues because the US isnt stable enough to know if defence orders will even get fulfilled (which is why europe has moved away from the US) and now its the fuel crisis caused by 2 criminals.
Bonus mention. Australia post (our domestic postal service) for a couple months stopped shipping to the US because they wanted us to collects tariffs/taxes for them. Its back to normal now but it was a bunch of unnecessary fuckery.
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Triforce0fCourage2 days ago
+3
They see him as he is.
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brezhnervouz2 days ago
+3
Public polling in Australia has also given this same result for quite a while now
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Kalagorinor2 days ago
+3
To be clear, Putin has caused much more death and suffering than Trump so far. And he has violated the principle of territorial integrity, taking over land that rightfully belongs to Ukraine.
But because his hands are tied in Ukraine, he doesn't have much chance to threaten peace elsewhere. On the contrary, Trump is randomly attacking countries here and there, which can indeed be arguably considered a larger threat to world peace.
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Have_A_Jelly_Baby2 days ago
+5
Putin is evil.
Trump is stupid AND evil.
Plus Trump hasn't killed off his entire army trying to invade Ukraine.
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CuteKermit142 days ago
+5
As an American, I 100% agree. Absolutely shameful.
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[deleted]2 days ago
+68
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Pariahb2 days ago
+8
The poll is not about who is more evil or who have gotten more people killed, it's about who is the bigger threat to world peace.
Trump has threatened other NATO countries, and has a lot more powerful military than Putin, and also goes around causing conflicts in different countries. Putin is bogged down in the neighbouring country. So when it comes to who is the bigger threat to world peace, it's Trump. Not that hard to understand.
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BlueDahlia1232 days ago
+27
Not necesarily.
Russia *is* a threat, and it has definitely proven expansionist intentions, but that is something that was already known and other countries have taken some measures to curtail it for decades.
America has the worlds largest economy, the largest military in terms of spending, and was not two years ago still considered an ally by most. Meanwhile, its large amount of soft power, while recently gutted, still makes other countries hesitate against it. But since Trump took office, they have been wildly unpredictable in *all* fields.
They start a war one day without warning and demand it be ended the next, and other countries do not dare to say no. They announce universal tariffs for no reason and increase them in retaliation to any hint of rudeness. They pull back their humanitarian aid and threaten to pull back even more if someone else does it to them. They maintain and legalise entire internet markets around gambling on international political events, and do nothing when people with stakes on certain outcomes try to force them through pressure. Their president is untrustworthy, yet his social media is often the first place where their policy is made public.
No country had preparations for this. There is no organised pushback. They keep getting everything they want and their demands only keep escalating.
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pennquaker182 days ago
+2
This is the best argument. The US has unmatched power and is aggressively using it.
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RaymondBeaumont2 days ago
+17
My country is in NATO. Russia isn't going to war with the UK, France, Germany etc.
America has however threatened to annex my neighbouring country, and Trump can't remember if that country is that country, or my country.
For me, America is more of a threat than Russia. For Eastern Europe, it's Russia.
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BoticelliBaby2 days ago
+25
Trump just threatened to annihilate 92 million people a couple of days ago
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FerralOne2 days ago
+31
Does Russia not threaten to annihilate more with nuclear warfare on a regular basis?
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Successful-Purple-542 days ago
+4
I’d believe the majority of the world would put trump near the top of threats to the planet. C*** started a war to delay his pedo details coming out.
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scruffman992 days ago
+14
The man that launches kamikaze drones into Ukrainian apartment buildings is the better person? Propaganda much?
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Rukytroll2 days ago
+9
The question was who is a biggest threat not who is a better person... Putin is evil but trump is like a monkey with a gun.
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not_just_putin2 days ago
+6
Yeah, russians only want to capture all of Europe, so no need to worry about that.
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FeelingKind76442 days ago
+7
So do Americans with working brains.
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puffydaddie2 days ago
+5
too bad they're not the majority
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butwhywedothis2 days ago
+9
The difference between Putin and P(ed)OTUS is that the former was a spy and the latter probably can’t even spell spy.
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Candid_Cat_59212 days ago
+2
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TruthOrSF2 days ago
+2
Putin is a very good puppet master
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Ok_Meat88952 days ago
+2
If either Putin or Kim called on him, he would run as fast as his fat dumb ass could....
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soshaldulemma2 days ago
+2
Efectivamente!
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crazyboy6112852 days ago
+2
He's finally great at something! Quick somebody give him an award and maybe we'll have peace and quiet for a day or two.
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shadowK1LOS2 days ago
+2
Well the Spaniards need to go have a word with FIFA then.
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faithOver2 days ago
+2
Trump is Netanyahu’s puppet. Putin is indeed a threat on his own.
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Guilty_Helicopter5722 days ago
+2
I agree.
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waltertaupe2 days ago
+2
Americans see that too.
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TheBookie_552 days ago
+2
Well, DUH!
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FerociouZ2 days ago
+2
Anyone who objectively looks at world history over the last 80 years could see that — but it's not new and it's not Trump, it's the US. If you go bar for bar, atrocity for atrocity, the US has done more to instigate conflicts and overthrow governments than every other country in the world put together.
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Pravi_Jaran2 days ago
+2
US Conservatism is a plight on humanity!
A cancer that needs a heavy dose of radiation and chemo therapy.
Who is going to administer the cure? Certainly not feckless Americans.
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Ragazzano2 days ago
+2
It's not just Spaniards
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Golden--2 days ago
+2
I can tell you that most Americans feel the same way.
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Soft_Walrus_36052 days ago
+2
Was it the whole "A civilization will die tonight" talk, perhaps?
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abeBroham-Linkin2 days ago
+2
It all started last April when he put tariffs on Canada and Mexico. It's all gone down hill since then.
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TrickAffectionate1402 days ago
+2
The Spaniards are correct.
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heavenIsAfunkyMoose2 days ago
+2
Only the Spaniards?
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vasta22 days ago
+2
American here, this is also how I feel and a lot of others
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Spokraket2 days ago
+2
It’s not only the Spainiards..
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CuteSherbet67322 days ago
+2
Spain is on the ball 👍
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mister_newbie2 days ago
+2
Alternative Heading: Spaniards sane.
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dannyjohnson19732 days ago
+2
Others countries do as well. Not just Spain.
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R3D4F2 days ago
+2
Spaniards aren’t the only ones
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the_eluder2 days ago
+2
Putin has the desire but not the ability. Trump has both.
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schacks2 days ago
+2
The Spaniards are not alone in that viewpoint. I think most of us Danes have the same thoughts on Trump and his crazy band of cronies.
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Barbu-Genial2 days ago
+2
Ils ont mille fois raison.
Probablement Netanyahou viens dans la foulée execo avec Poutine.
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userisnottaken2 days ago
+2
Ofc he is.
Putin is dangerous for sure but Trump is the president of the country with the highest military spending.
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Enthios2 days ago
+2
That's because he is, he's potentially the greatest threat to world peace we've ever experienced. An idiot with the most powerful military in the world at his disposal who listens to what the world's more intelligent dictators tell him and is one of the most well-known sadists of all time.
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IceMysterious30562 days ago
+2
Trump is Putin puppet anyway 🙄
They all getting old, and want to take the world with them.
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Newplasticactionhero2 days ago
+2
Weird because Putin got him elected.
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ThinkFree2 days ago
+2
I am not a Spaniard and I agree
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Kan4lZ0n32 days ago
+2
It’s not either-or. They can and should both be pitched, preferably into jail cells.
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HardcoreKaraoke2 days ago
+2
>When respondents were asked which leaders most endanger global peace, 81% pointed to Trump, compared with 79.3% who cited Putin and 71.2% who named Netanyahu. The rest of the figures suggested by 40dB. rank further behind: Iran’s new supreme leader, Mojtaba Khamenei (62.9%); North Korea’s Kim Jong‑Un (62.25%); and, at a greater distance, the head of state of the other global superpower, China’s Xi Jinping, at 49.3%.
Yeah that's totally fair. The thing with Trump and the US is that this is a sudden heel turn. We were the "good" guys. We held alliances together. People relied on the US dollar, our military might and our leadership. Putin, Jung-Un and Jinping have always been looked at as radicals by anyone paying attention. They were generally kept on the outskirts of any major alliance because they couldn't be trusted. Netanyahu has been kept in the loop but I think people understood how dangerous and unreliable he is.
So those nations are the threats that we knew. Nations planned to stand against them. Trump has totally flipped the table and now everyone who relied on the US and trusted the US simply can't do that anymore. And unlike a depleted Russia or a small North Korea the US is actually capable of doing the crazy shit Trump says. When those other leaders make grandiose threats it's kind of like "ha okay you're trying to peacock and act tough." But with Trump he might be serious or he might be having a 2am Twitter shit posting session after watching FOX News.
Even if Trump ended the Iran war today no one can trust the US until he's out of office. So world peace can't be achieved with such an unstable variable at the top. He talks about other leaders with such disrespect and talks down to anyone who doesn't kiss his ass. With Putin the world is able to function with Russia not having a seat at the table, but that won't be easy to do without the US. So world peace is more unachievable than ever.
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thumbscrolllord2 days ago
+2
Time for organized action.
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sjbfujcfjm2 days ago
+2
Same thing
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SmegmaWarrior08152 days ago
+2
Because the US has a competent military. Russia does not.
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lehcimr2 days ago
+2
And they would be correct.
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Heavy-Razzmatazz4122 days ago
+2
They're not the only ones.
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Kroktakar2 days ago
+2
We see him as the biggest threat to the environment, too.
All that petrol burning...
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Cautious-Brother-8382 days ago
+2
Just Spaniards?
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dejvipasco2 days ago
+2
Yeah me too. And i'm not from Spain.
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user834710372 days ago
+2
Donald Hitler and Vladimir Stalin
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TwoWarm7002 days ago
+2
Is Bibi still pulling the strings ?
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Lard5232 days ago
+2
Putin keeps to himself and is busy in the ukraine, where theve been working at their three day special military operation for over 1500 days.
Trump wildly attacks difference places and has a more hateable personality, and is incompetent as a leader, plus much of the world already doesn’t have a high view of the american populace.
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righteous_sword2 days ago
+2
Of course they do. They never got to taste Putin's invasion and destabilizations. Luckily for them he's so bogged down in Ukraine and sanctioned that he can't fund Catalonian separatists.
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furhatfan2 days ago
+2
I mean so do a lot of americans. But not enough. Its scary here
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Capable-Deer-56702 days ago
+2
They're about to lose the two military bases there over it.
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Ok_Willingness_96192 days ago
+2
Change “Spaniards” to “Most of the world”
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Cerbatiyo-sesino2 days ago
+2
The thing is, we know Putin's death count is dividends higher, but Donnie the Diddler has fucked with us DIRECTLY
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No-Preparation-10302 days ago
+2
You spelt ‘Everyone’ wrong.
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Retinoid6342 days ago
+2
So do many Americans.
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larve12 days ago
+2
Putin really can't destroy NATO, our best bulwark against war in western Europe and for its members.
Trump is actively trying to dismantle NATO it seems. I'm not sure who's the biggest, but they're both huge threats, that’s for sure.
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CreativelySeeking1 day ago
+2
Literally everyone does, except for republican voters.
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