\~3 days ago, Sanchez cast Spain as the [moral model for the EU.](https://www.politico.eu/article/sanchez-casts-spain-moral-model-eu-clash-trump-israel/)
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Tricky_Big_87745 days ago
+145
Guess this proved him correct, huh?
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SneakyFire235 days ago
+50
Given the amount of bribery going on, yeah this is about right.
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Embarrassed_Fan11085 days ago
+9
Be aware that there is no sentence yet. Also, it’s quite a controversial trial, since the judge’s work has been everything but exemplary.
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UnknownHero25 days ago
+54
Listnook cheerleading them so hard was infuriating.
Yes it is fantastic they called out Trump on his bullshit. They were right to do that.
Trump has cut off material aid for Ukraine for his entire presidency... But the US is STILL ahead of Spain in bilateral aid per capita. That war was in large part caused by Europe's extreme underspending on defense, giving Russia an opportunity that Europe would clearly be unable to respond to. It was a war of opportunity. You know where Spain is in military spending in NATO? Dead f****** last. There is a strong case to be made that they are THE cause of a million plus deaths over the past few years.
Peace takes work, not just words.
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Foodball5 days ago
+25
I don’t know if I would chalk up European underspending leading to the war in Ukraine. The Russians expected the war to be over in a few weeks, they never expected any support from the EU, and assumed, largely correctly, the West would be slow to provide support due to the nuclear threat and internal bickering. Even if the EU had a clearer overmatch (which they collectively do) it makes no difference if you presume they will be too slow to react.
Still don’t excuse Spanish underspending, they should really be bigger naval players for the EU.
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lpottsy5 days ago
+1
>>I don’t know if I would chalk up European underspending leading to the war in Ukraine.
'Please get rid of all your nukes, don't worry about Russia, we'll protect you' -USA
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Foodball5 days ago
+2
I’m confused about your comment, what are you responding to? What does this have to do with Ukraine giving up their nuclear weapons?
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lpottsy5 days ago
+1
One of the many factors that lead to the current situation in Ukraine was the Ukrainians agreeing to get rid of the nuclear weapons based in their country.
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Foodball5 days ago
+2
Yes, if they still had them there is no way Russia would invade
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UnknownHero25 days ago
+1
You are right that Russia expected it to be over quickly, but this logic is a fundamental misunderstanding of how reasoning works at a geopolitical level.
Russia HOPES the war ends quickly but all nation state actors factor in multiple types of risk. The odds may have been good they would win quickly, but what about after? Will Europe retake the land (obviously they couldn't). Could they empower Ukraine to retake any land (they obviously can't its been 5 years). When you turn the dial on all these risks down to zero, it absolutely does have impact on Russian decision making.
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Foodball5 days ago
+4
That’s where the nuclear threat comes in, Russia knows NATO will never invade or try and reclaim Ukraine as they can threaten nuclear annihilation.
The EU could have the strongest military in the world but they wouldn’t risk their survival by invading Ukraine to retake it from the Russians.
The scenario we’re in now would have benefitted greatly from EU having strong defence stockpiles and industries, which is slowly improving, but the situation we are in now is not what planners on either side expected back in 2022, where both sides expected Ukraine to fold pretty quickly.
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washag5 days ago
+8
It's also a lot easier to call out Trump's bullshit when your country is in an economic union that largely shields you from retaliation, and there are no real diplomatic repercussions because your relationship with the US is relatively unimportant to anyone.
I mean, yay for Spain and everything, but they have as much to lose from campaigning against the US and Israel as the thousands of pro-Palestine protesters in non-US Western cities - nothing. They also have a similarly negligible ability to influence events in any way.
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Proud-Pilot93005 days ago
+5
> there is a strong case to be made that they are THE cause of a million plus deaths over the past few years.
No there is not. Although Spain and Europe in general should have and still should be doing more to ensure the continents security there is NO case to be made that Russias war of aggression against Ukraine was/is the fault of anyone but Russia. Furthermore the USA played a role in Ukrainian de-nuclearisation, an agreement in which they agreed to provide security guarantees to Ukraine (together with Russia). Those guarantee obligations have been consistently ignored since. First their NATO ambitions were swiftly dismissed by the USA and Germany, then when Putins “little green men” invaded Crimea and “separatists” attacked Donbas the response was comically weak and since the full scale invasion NATO countries have been drip feeding equipment to Ukraine in fear of Russia’s response. Providing Ukraine with enough weapons to keep them fighting but not enough to allow them to liberate their own territory. And that has also stopped from the Americans in 2025 when Trump came in office. Not to mention that he has been consistently trying to pressure Ukraine into accepting a defeat that simply isn’t happening. Is the European/ USA response to the war underwhelming? Yes. Has Europe viewed security as a low priority issue since the fall of the USSR? Absolutely yes. Are Europe and the USA responsible for the death and destruction Russia brought to Ukraine? F*** NO. What we are responsible for is not doing everything possible to throw those murderous dimwits back to their 4th world dictatorship *right now* so they can go back to killing each other rather than innocent Ukrainians.
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UnknownHero25 days ago
+2
> there is NO case to be made that Russias war of aggression against Ukraine was/is the fault of anyone but Russia
So ya no kidding. But crime is pretty much inevitable if you make it tempting enough. If I leave a stack of $100 dollar bills on the street undefended beyond a sign that says "please don't take this"... That money is going to be gone quickly.
The person that stole it is obviously a criminal. But that's a moral conversation for six year olds. Some portion of the fault is mine for leaving a huge stack of money unattended in the middle of the street.
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LieComfortable77645 days ago
+1
No one wanted Ukraine to have nuclear weapons, and no one wants them to have them now. The world is a lot better with fewer nuclear weapons.
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Proud-Pilot93005 days ago
+1
My point is that Ukraine gave those weapons up in exchange for security guarantees and the guarantors have either invaded them or sat back and let them be invaded.
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journeymanreddit5 days ago
+4
Basically Sanchez made Spain to be like Hungary but with well played cards.
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deividragon5 days ago
+5
Can you explain me how this could be the case when he's in a minority government?
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Legendary-Lemon4 days ago
+1
Terrible comparison. Spain government is a coalition. Your reasoning is flawed
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Teleprom104 days ago
+1
hahahah f****** idiot
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UnknownHero25 days ago
+2
Its a good comparison. I don't want to accuse Spain of that level of corruption, and they are certainly more democratic, but both countries acted in rampant self interest.
Hungary really does need Russian oil, Orban tied up his more corrupt motives with an ounce of truth to convince people to swallow a poison pill. Spain's self interest is that THEY can get away without direct punishment. They can c**** out and they will never be the ones to die for it, they just sacrifice Ukraine, then poland, then germany, then france... THEN its their problem.
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Tibbaryllis25 days ago
+2
Wasn’t this explicitly the Spanish governments answer when asked about meeting their EU military spending goals recently? Basically, “why should we? When they’d have to go through all of you first?”
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Commercial_Badger_375 days ago
+7
Prosecuting the most powerful people in your nation for corruption seems pretty moral, doesn't it?
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StaticSystemShock5 days ago
+51
Well, at least they charge people, unlike certain country with stripes and 50 stars in a corner...
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No_Conversation_93255 days ago
+77
She is charged for "her status as the prime minister’s wife, which benefited the expansion, funding and operations of her university chair, decisions were made that “could have been obtained through a unique exploitation of her relational position.”" Which would literary mean that she as a PM's wife shouldn't be allowed to hold a job, even an unpaid one (like what she did), because her status as an employee might bring benefits to her employer.
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GoodTeletubby5 days ago
+34
So the charges themselves don't even assert any corrupt conduct on her part, they're just claiming that because she's the PM's wife, any organizational decision that is made in favor of the way she advocates for is de facto corrupt?
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No_Conversation_93255 days ago
+23
We don't have all the info yet (they waited for Sanchez to be out of the country and unable to comment), but pretty much yes. It's the same far right that accused her of corruption for working (unpaid) at a university, so... we gotta wait and see.
Edit:At the same time the rumours started spreading that she is a man. I couldn't facepalm enough
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Itchy-Meringue68725 days ago
-8
It’s almost if she’s being charged with doing what ever other leader does and gets away with it with.
Do you think him denouncing Israel had something to do with it?
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No_Conversation_93255 days ago
+2
Heh, I find it dumb how they call for his resignation over her deed. Just like Macron when they wanted him to resign because she was his groomer. Twisted mind, crazy people.
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rightoftexas5 days ago
+21
A Democrat senator was just sent to jail for corruption.
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Common-Concentrate-25 days ago
+10
Bob Menendez and Congressman George Santos charged and sentenced to federal prison in 2024
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StaticSystemShock5 days ago
-1
So, when will they send an orange republican president?
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rightoftexas5 days ago
+8
When he's charged and convicted. The crypto currency from his latest administration should be enough.
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Arcanemageop5 days ago
+2
If you wanna get an even better laugh look up what his family business were and how he paid for his election :)
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Teleprom104 days ago
+1
fake hahahyou are a f****** human garbaje
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Javs24695 days ago
+2
People only have surface level knowledge of EU countries politicians they get from vague news headlines.
You don't really know what it's like inside a country you don't live in.
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Time_Guide28125 days ago
+9
the hypocrisy has no limits for these weak rulers
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UnicornMessiah5 days ago
+1
Unlike my country, it seems like Spain actually punishes their public figures
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+1
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Alabamaaaa2 days ago
+1
There’s a huge lawfare in Spain and this is another case of it
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platoface5415 days ago
-14
Strange this comes out a few days after criticizing Israel….
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PShelley5 days ago
+18
Are you suggesting Israel is in control of Spain’s justice department and can order charges and prosecutions 😂
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pootzmak5 days ago
+2
Maybe try following the news and then you'll feel less "strange"
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gbinasia5 days ago
+1
Guess he is now a Dirty Sanchez.
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Jordidirector5 days ago
+239
It's basically a corrupt judge with Deep links to right parties bending the law in order to f*** Sánchez. They did the same thing with Podemos party while PPs Uber corrupt políticians get a free pass, witnesses suffer weird deaths and somehow no-one can find that misterious M.Rajoy.
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theorizable5 days ago
+46
> with Deep links to right parties bending the law in order to f*** Sánchez.
Or it's actual corruption and the "right" leaning judge is doing his job. Why are you not exploring the actual charges of corruption and character assassinating the people bringing accountability.
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watchitbend5 days ago
+40
Possibly because as I'm reading, it appears that it's the perception of conflict of interest that's driving this, not any actual corruption that's been brought forward with evidence?
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Legitimate-Garden2945 days ago
+2
The thing is that in Spain the executive branch isn't really separate from the judicial branch, since judges are picked by the government, and the judges we currently have in the supreme court (that subsequently pick the ones below) were picked by a right wing government (by Partido Popular). This has also recently lead to judge Luis Acayro Sánchez being barred for 10 years, and Baltasar Garzón suffering the same thing (it has already been like 15 years for Garzón, but it's pretty much the same situation) to avoid them punishing right wing corruption.
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cister5325 days ago
+76
In this case, it's a known corrupt judge. The judicial powers in Spain have a long history of lawfare against left-leaning parties.
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theorizable5 days ago
-21
Sorry I don't trust random anonymous strangers online. Go ahead and link your evidence.
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zetadgp5 days ago
+39
This judge have "missed" and "forgotten" to extend the lenght of investigations that lead to trials several times, all those times his mistakes lead to failure to trial big corporations or those connected to right wing politicians.
The Supreme Justice in Spain was rooked by a leaked audio where a right wing politician were saying "Don't worry we will be in control of the Second Circuit of the Supreme Justice" which is the circuit that deals with politicians.
There are notorious irregularities in this trial, judges above this one have "corrected" his investigation several times, noting that some of the accusations he has made are unfounded and can't be prosecuted.
Also this judge proposed a jury trial for the PM's wife, a thing VERY unheard of for the type of crimes she's been accused.
She could be corrupt, I wont get into that, but the handling of this investigation is one of the most bizarre and strange Spain has seen in a while.
As a matter of fact, this judge has a forced retirement due to old age in june, he could have take his time and pass on the investigation to the next judge, but he's rushing it so he can finish it before being forced to retire
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equipmentelk5 days ago
+22
Let’s also not forget that his daughter is a politician for the Conservative Party (main opposition party) and close friends with Ayuso.
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77NorthCambridge5 days ago
+16
You are going to disagree with anything anyone says (classic right-wing strategy unless it involves a right-wing person), but there are no actual charges, it comes with the PM out of the country, and is 3 days after the PM criticized Israel and Trump.
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theorizable5 days ago
+9
It also comes after trying to deepen ties with China, who's supporting North Korea, Iran, and Russia. Weird.
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SouthGlassAgain5 days ago
+1
Nope. This is a several months long ongoing judicial case in Spain. Not saying she is guilty.
But this did not appear overnight
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aadgarven5 days ago
+2
There is not a single proof
One of the charges cannot even be commited by her since she is not a public servant.
The judge comes from the 4th turn (finger appointed) is husband father and uncle to charges of the opposition
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IDNWID_19005 days ago
+2
The case is manufactured, the judge hss been doing it for two years for some really vague charges.
The judge (whose daughter and nice are PP councillors in different "ayuntamientos" in Madrid) has to retire at 72 years old by law (he turns 72 this september) so he just wants to start this trial to keep it going until next year's spanish general elections.
It's a clear case of lawfare (just like the right wing has been doing forever, specialy with Podemos) and time will prove it.
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Legitimate-Garden2945 days ago
+1
I don't know if you know this, but in Spain politics pick the judges, so yes, it's a right wing judge.
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diesalher5 days ago
+1
This. There are so many corruption cases linked to the party that the judge is probably overwhelmed
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Funny-Ambition-76315 days ago
+2
It is either a corrupt Judge or a corrupt politician
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Areshian4 days ago
+1
It can be both
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blkknght5 days ago
+2
Haven’t they been vocal about Trump recently too?
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blackcid64 days ago
+1
Reported for being a fake account paid by the PSOE to make propaganda.
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VirusWeird5 days ago
+3
What a load of bs your comment lmao
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jorgebrks5 days ago
+22
Look up Juez Peinado. Upper courts are waiting to use this case of his as a way to get him out of his job. He's corrupt af.
And i've never voted for psoe or even liked sanchez. But the truth is the truth.
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Stocky_Platypus5 days ago
+113
Allegations started with a far right complaint. The allegations that she used her influence to attend classes for a master degree. Far right is sinking fast worldwide and the shit slinging is starting.
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SneakyFire235 days ago
+92
She's \*chairing\* a master's program, not attending one
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epegar5 days ago
+32
She is not on court for attending classes 😂
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andygchicago5 days ago
+66
The investigation started two years ago.
“Begoña Gómez is accused of bribery, embezzlement of public funds and misappropriation following a two-year investigation into multiple aspects of her professional life.”
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Pjtm75 days ago
+41
Very Listnook take to say “far right is sinking fast worldwide”, it’s in fact growing in most western countries.
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77NorthCambridge5 days ago
-1
Like Hungary?
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CressCheap5 days ago
+4
The newly elected party is right wing…
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VirusWeird5 days ago
+6
Hahahahaha suuure it’s all a far right conspiracy
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TastyCuttlefish5 days ago
+11
The far right is *expanding* its power worldwide, not sinking. Look at the most recent elections and polls in nearly every Western European nation. Even the newly elected PM of Hungary… still far right.
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__calcalcal__5 days ago
+3
The socialist government and their cronies call everybody that call them out on their crimes “far right”.
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BluishHope5 days ago
+1
Never step in the kitchen
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Elino_Doro5 days ago
+36
The comments here are pure hypocrisy. As a Spaniard, it makes my blood boil to see people defending the indefensible just because he is on the left and has played his cards well internationally lately. He is by far the most corrupt president in Spain modern history, with MPs in jail, multiple active investigations, and both his wife and brother under investigation. You have no shame defending this. His wife is beyond guilty; this is not some right-wing conspiracy, it has been going on for a long time. And this goes for the PP too, who had their own corruption scandals during their years in power. We must be critical of both sides, not just when it suits us. Hypocrites.
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Bogged-5 days ago
+13
Bruh there is 0 evidence against Sánchez as of right now, nor is there any charges against him. The most corrupt president in Spain's modern history? That'd be former president Mariano Rajoy who, unlike Sánchez is actually being charged as of right now. There is absolutely no case against Begoña, only judge Peinado doing LAWFARE, stretching the case and doing an ILLEGAL PROSPECTIVE INVESTIGATION to try and find shit on her. He doesn't care that there is zero evidence he just wants to give negative publicity to them since he is a corrupt judge favoring his political opponents.
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Legitimate-Garden2945 days ago
+4
Infórmate
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Soft-Ingenuity22625 days ago
+3
M. Rajoy. “The most corrupt politician in modern Spain”.
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Just_Punch_5 days ago
+3
Que te hierva la sangre pero sois penosos
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blackcid64 days ago
+2
Come on, and now say that the president's brother wasn't a corrupt either, that the fact he didn't even know where he worked in his public statements to the judge proves nothing to you, it's all the right wing's fault, right?
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aadgarven5 days ago
+2
Bro, you are saying this while
1 there are no proofs against her
2 Aznar had almost everysingle ministry in jail (famously his vicepresident)
3 Rajoy was in the papers for Bribery and not charged because the judge didnt know wether M. Rajoy could be Mariano Rajoy
4 Rajoy vicepresident is being charged with using the Police to fabricate charges against the opposition
5 Rajoy finance ministry is charged for making ad hoc laws for big companies if they baid his legal office half a million.
And there are many more cases I am only describing the more blatant.
Is like Trump accusing Obama of playing golf
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Arcanemageop5 days ago
+7
No proofs against her? the prime minister's wife WITHOUT a degree is directing a master's degree about how to get public funding from his husband.
How f****** dense you have to be?
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blackcid64 days ago
+1
PSOE pay accounts to defend them on the internet. Listnook is full of those.
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_LAZZ_5 days ago
-1
Sanchez is a disaster in national politics and is being a moral reference in international politics. Both are compatible.
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CupEcstatic27215 days ago
+26
Well, being charged doesn't mean it's proven, although there's no smoke without fire
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Legitimate-Garden2945 days ago
+9
I mean, it happens a lot in Spain that the right wing pushes for made up cases against important left wing politicians. Usually it ends up being fake, but people remember a lot more them being accused than them being innocent.
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CodeManiaac5 days ago
+3
Abalos, Koldo and Begoña are all being falsely accused. All because of these right wing judges… Go touch some grass my dude
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Arcanemageop5 days ago
+1
Name one
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froskli5 days ago
+2
Podemos and their corruption, have you forgotten? It was fake but they published it everywhere for years. Es burdo pero vamos con ello.
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Funny-Ambition-76315 days ago
+5
Yeah every one is getting charged every day for just no reason
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dirty_cuban5 days ago
+3
So you think being charged with a crime means someone is guilty of that crime?
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blackcid64 days ago
+1
Come on, and now say that the president's brother wasn't a corrupt either, that the fact he didn't even know where he worked in his public statements to the judge proves nothing to you, it's all the right wing's fault, right?
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TheeDirtyToast5 days ago
+92
Wow, seems to be a trend.
All the folks calling for a new world order and lining up behind China are corrupt, self-centered, manipulative clowns.
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BobRawrley5 days ago
+74
Pretty sure everyone in the global political class are corrupt, self-centered, manipulative clowns.
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Sportfreunde5 days ago
+88
As opposed to the clean swamp drainers on the other end.
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Ghidoran5 days ago
+17
That is not whataboutism. People need to actually understand what words mean before using them.
The original post is asserting that one side (pro-China leaders) as the bad guys, tacitly implying the other side isn't. It's not 'whataboutism' to point out that leaders on both sides are corrupt and manipulative, and therefore their original point doesn't stand.
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CasimirGabriev5 days ago
-4
According to your argument, I can argue with people based on what they didnt say. The implication is solely in your reading and assumption.
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csanjuan5 days ago
+36
Te recomiendo que leas el documento del juez que acusa, básicamente pruebas cero y lleva 2 años estirado el proceso. Lawfare.
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SneakyFire235 days ago
+35
She used her family status to get a position in academia in a master's course she doesn't even qualify to attend.
The university has reported to the court that it spent **€113,509** in public funds to develop specialized software for the academic chair she co-directed.
Gómez is charged of misappropriation because she registered this state-funded software in her own name or that of her private company, Transforma TCS SL.
Then she seems to be charged with business corruption and influence peddling for using her position at Moncloa Palace to secure private sponsors, this is textbook corruption
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csanjuan5 days ago
+19
La herramienta era freeware, el máster lo impartía desde 2014, muchos años antes de la llegada al poder de Pedro Sánchez. El juez dice que como usaba la Moncloa para su trabajo malversa.m fondos públicos, la Moncloa es el domicilio del jefe de estado y por supuesto de su mujer mientras ocupa el cargo. Firmó una carta en apoyo de un empresario ( carta que firmaron 30 personas más entre ellas gente del partido de la oposición) y el juez lo considera favoritismo. Un tremendo despropósito de un juez que entró en la carrera judicial a dedo, sin examen de oposición. LAWFARE
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blackcid64 days ago
+1
Sure lol. And now say that the president's brother wasn't a corrupt either, that the fact he didn't even know where he worked in his public statements to the judge proves nothing to you, it's all the right wing's fault, right?
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chullyman5 days ago
+1
Did you read the article?
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OllyDee5 days ago
-2
It’s not all of them though is it?
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zjlmmfj3rd5 days ago
-1
Wait the bys across bombarding Gaza, Lebanon and Iran did say they’ll teach Pedro how moral they are…….
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HoustonHous5 days ago
+5
Paywall... anyone knows what she is accused of doing?
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Anjoleon5 days ago
+11
Corrupt, incompetent judge accusing her of using public resources and influence to benefit herself through universities.
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HoustonHous5 days ago
+8
When you say incompetent (I assume you mean corrupt)... Is that normal in Spain for a judge to charge someone? Also, did it come out of the blue or was there any noise about it before?
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Anjoleon5 days ago
+13
I think there are two separated things here. One, the woman using her influence to have some advantages, something that in my opinion should not be allowed, and that is borderline corruption. And another one, a far right judge that is trying to interfere in politics, the same judge that has made big mistakes in the past and also timed all the big announcements about the process with other news going against right wing parties. The noise it all comes from the same place. Personally, I think this administration was way less corrupt than what we have been seeing in Spain in last decades but there is still a long way down, unfortunately. And I think none of that is going away anytime soon with PSOE or PP being in charge.
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HoustonHous5 days ago
+6
I learned something today. Thanks for educating me!
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Legitimate-Garden2945 days ago
+2
The "Consejo general del poder judicial", which is in charge of picking the judges, is picked by politicians (in this case it was picked by a right wing party), so it has lead to some crazy situations. Look up Baltasar Garzón ir Luis Acayro.
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blackcid64 days ago
+1
Propaganda. Do PSOE pay you? Now say that the president's brother wasn't a corrupt either, that the fact he didn't even know where he worked in his public statements to the judge proves nothing to you, it's all the right wing's fault, right?
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Dookienator5 days ago
+2
I'd be careful with these publications because politicians are generally corrupt and the idea of shining a spotlight on the corruption of some politicians over others is primarily a propaganda tool.
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Loose_Skill66415 days ago
+8
so much for the moral high ground
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Reasonable_Skill5805 days ago
+7
You oppose a certain country and all of a sudden trouble follows!
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[deleted]5 days ago
+49
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jay64325 days ago
+22
Americans can’t help themselves, it’s a sickness. Every issue has to be somehow related to America / an American issue.
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Toastylump5 days ago
+20
In this case it's the contrary, the socialist goverment had a massive corruption case, with audios leaking and using COVID to enrich themselves, using prostitutes while calling themselves feminists, doing some shady things with Venezuela, etc. and right now the trial is starting and Pedro Sanchez used Israel and USA as escapegoat to divert the attention to that instead of their corruption and sadly it worked
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BoringRedHorse5 days ago
-24
You are unsurprisingly the bottom comment, while you should be the top comment.
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CreativeContract21705 days ago
+19
Naw, it’s just a dumb take with zero evidence.
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BoringRedHorse5 days ago
-8
And when we try to supply said evidence I suppose you'll engage with it in good faith and objectivity, and with full protection for the whistleblower? /s
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CreativeContract21705 days ago
+13
That’s how making claims works yes.
You don’t get to make baseless accusations and act like the victim when people want evidence.
So I take you got not a shred of evidence then, yes? Great.
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TheFrickinThrowAway5 days ago
+5
Good f*** them both
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Soft-Luck_5 days ago
+5
What about the evidence?
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aadgarven5 days ago
+3
Nothing
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Frodothedodo815 days ago
+3
They all hunger for power
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Marinatrix5 days ago
+2
I have read the same news for two years now and she still has not been charged with anything. This judge is obsessed with her.
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BetSquare71905 days ago
+3
A holier-than-thou pro-Hamas leftist.
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post_u_later5 days ago
+2
Nothing worse than a dirty Sanchez
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Tostada_005 days ago
+2
In Spain, the judiciary is highly politicized; you only have to look at who is handling the case...
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flimflammedzimzammed5 days ago
-14
Here come the smears; I wonder how much mango had to pay for someone to imply this
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jay64325 days ago
+32
Everything doesn’t revolve around America you know
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SneakyFire235 days ago
+17
this has been going on for a while, dont talk about things you dont understand
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IntentionDeep6515 days ago
+1
this wouldnt even get headline in 3/4 of other western countries with what their leadership is doing
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AlisaofallTimes5 days ago
+1
Not surprising at all. Justice must prevail.
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blackcid64 days ago
+1
For those outside of Spain: Don't listen to those who defend the president or his wife in comments. These are accounts paid for by the PSOE (Spanish Socialist Workers' Party) for propaganda purposes. Everyone in Spain knows how corrupt the president's and their family is.
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dniel664 days ago
+1
Oh well, the First Lady of 🇺🇸 is a lying w****. The bar has been set very low.
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Apart-Selection56804 days ago
+1
Israel lobby at work 💯
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IfICode4 days ago
+1
Listnookors smirking while this is a corrupted judge filing these charges because of Sanchez anti-israel stance
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Rich-Average-83985 days ago
-15
Not surprised. They bring Spain to a new low
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OllyDee5 days ago
+21
Not much of a history fan then I’m guessing?
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csanjuan5 days ago
+1
Y pasas de mirar la situación económica de España a día de hoy por si no encaja con tu discurso.
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Icy-Ask39435 days ago
-10
This is just jarring. All his recent messaging about the high road Spain is taking feels like pure virtue signaling now that we know he's been nurturing a corrupt life partner. If he can't speak up about his wife's corruptions, then he should shut up about the rest.
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csanjuan5 days ago
+6
Es lawfare, también han acusado a esta mujer de ser hombre y el documento de acusación del juez va a pasar a la historia por lo lamentable, está disponible búscalo y léelo.
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Rock_mage5 days ago
-4
I mean, for me him saying stop trading with Israel, but not offering to replace the arrow system was the biggest red flag. It screamed half baked plans.
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psyduckhunt5 days ago
-8
Now do Trump and his kids! It seems like they are accusing her of using her position to get someone a job? Is that what we're complaining about? I know I'll be downvoted since the purpose of this article and thread is to fuel the propaganda machine but c'mon, at least try to be consistent... Looking at Spanish news media via a VPN, it appears it's a much larger story about the corrupt judge himself, rather than these charges. Truth is not a democracy.
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system-in5 days ago
+17
This has go noting to do with the US or Trump, do you have a brain disorder that makes you think of Trump 24/7?
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Aineisa5 days ago
+15
Now đó Putin!
Why are Americans using any article to drive conversation back to trump?
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jay64325 days ago
+9
It’s a sickness, they can’t help it
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Starmoses5 days ago
+2
Why would a Spanish judge do something about trump? Just cause someone is against Trump doesn't mean they're not shitty.
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No-Space9375 days ago
Lol, with all his moralist grandstanding, did he pull the leftist version of people going right-wing and becoming a christain to get ahead of a scandal
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HappilyDisengaged5 days ago
+1
God I want to move to Spain
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Just_Punch_5 days ago
+1
The defamation Against Spain starts, dont worry americans and Israel people. Keep smelling your own farts
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blackcid64 days ago
+1
Yeah ,sure... and now say that the president's brother wasn't a corrupt either, that the fact he didn't even know where he worked in his public statements to the judge proves nothing to you, it's all the right wing's fault, right?
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Elsoci5 days ago
All right wingers here commenting while having no idea what this is about
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blackcid64 days ago
+1
Nah, bettee left wingers paid by the PSOE to defend this.
Let me guess, president ts brother is also innocent, right? Lol.
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AccordingInsect34815 days ago
+1
Not fukkin rich enough?
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Andromeda_TT5 days ago
+1
Liberal meltdown here is insane 😂
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guestpassonly5 days ago
+1
He opposed Israel, now Israel/who ever they pay for dirt on politicians is using it's power and influence against him.
it was to be expected
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color_natural_36795 days ago
+1
Right wing judges making up shit
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Typingdude35 days ago
-1
LOL and again LOL. From another article: “The charges come at an embarrassing time for the prime minister. A week ago, his former transport minister went on trial, also for corruption.” Oh aren’t they just so BASED ha ha ha.
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Ultra_Metal5 days ago
-5
I wonder what Sanchez will do against Israel for the distraction this time. He likes to use Jews as scapegoats to distract from his corruption scandals. It's the oldest trick in the book for leaders who are in trouble and need someone to blame or demonize.
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owen__wilsons__nose5 days ago
+17
This is such a lazy take
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Escape-artist-435 days ago
+8
What is this crackpot conspiracy theory nonsense. Just take the mask off at this point
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nunii5 days ago
+3
They can’t even go after real threats like Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson….Mossad sucks. I think we all overestimated their power.
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Scuba_BK5 days ago
+1
Well said
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bgrtrdplyr35 days ago
you can charge me with corruption if it means i get to f*** pedro
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nobunseedsplease5 days ago
After they refused to block the strait with Trump, how much digging/finagling did he have to do to get this story published?
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Theory_Eleven5 days ago
-13
Huh who knew taking the “high road”and villifying “immoral” Trump would land your corrupt wife in an investigation and scandal?
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CockchopsMcGraw5 days ago
+15
Difference is, she's being held accountable. How many convicted fraudsters has Trump pardoned?
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Theory_Eleven5 days ago
+3
Oh plenty. And I’m willing to bet Trump’s friends had something to do with her being caught.
I have no doubt Sanchez is complicit in her corruption so he should not have tried claiming the moral high ground and making a public spectacle of standing against Trump. Did he just assume Trump would quietly let that slide?
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Additional-Name-32115 days ago
+2
This has been going on for years now. Trump has literally nothing to do with anything here…
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