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Fritzkreig Apr 14, 2026 +42

It seems like this corruption thing seems to be more common with the people in power, all over the world; like something that is endemic to the human condition in aggregate.

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[deleted] Apr 14, 2026 +25

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Fritzkreig Apr 14, 2026 +12

I like your theory, but I think that various forms of these systems have always existed; tech has just allowed them to get way better at it. Member newspapers and talk radio, they were the previous iteration of it.

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PECourtejoie Apr 14, 2026 +1

My gut feeling is that also the oligarchs control medias and social medias, and try to weaken the public perception on their respective governments in order to strong arm them into making laws that suit them. Some companies need to be regulated, but the laws in place and the trade agreements are written solely in their favor, so that they can have free rein. Add foreign actors to the mix, that’s why extreme right is rising everywhere.

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Rough-Philosophy-989 Apr 14, 2026

How do you explain why most media hates Trump? Could he actually be an outsider? Maybe that's why there has been a constant barrage of attacks against everything he has done? I'm not saying he is a great person. I'm just seeing a consistent pattern that seems suspicious.

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PECourtejoie Apr 14, 2026 +1

Well, could it be because their perceive him as being neither coherent, smart, polite, respectful (of people, females, disabled, veterans, war heroes, laws…), intelligent, consistent, trustworthy, empathetic…

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thoughtsarefalse Apr 14, 2026 +13

Hard to be corrupt without some power to abuse.

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Fritzkreig Apr 14, 2026 +2

That is an excellent point, it is kinda like what rocks dream about, like Aristotle said.

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terrorkat Apr 14, 2026 +1

Yeah, but also being in power and accumulating wealth changes your brain chemistry.

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ars-derivatia Apr 14, 2026 +2

>It seems like this corruption thing seems to be more common with the people in power You may want to check out the definition of criminal corruption. You can't do it without having *some* kind of power. Of course it will regard people in power. That's like saying that feminicide seems to be more common with men. Or that hate crimes seem to be more common with racists. Duh. Astute observation :P

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Training_Wonder_5066 Apr 14, 2026 +5

People with morals and integrity don't desire power.

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Aim2bFit Apr 14, 2026 +1

In rare times we would see one (or a few.. Idk) with morals amd integrity like the late Jose Mujica, the then president of Uruguay.

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Thin_Vast_1560 Apr 15, 2026 +1

Morals are relative.

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Fritzkreig Apr 14, 2026 -1

You get it!

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GarGonDie Apr 14, 2026 +1

It's nothing more than propaganda machinery and corrupt judges.

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Thin_Vast_1560 Apr 15, 2026 +1

Oversimplification. And of course, power is required for meaningful corruption. This statement is such a nothingburger.

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Kind_Commission_427 Apr 14, 2026 +1

Institutionalized Greed

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IndependentLog6441 Apr 14, 2026 +1

People are greedy.... But even the best people are targets, there's all kinds of nefarious gifts being thrown at these people for influence or even to smear them down the line. I haven't read or followed this case, just making a general point.

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YogiJack00 Apr 14, 2026 -1

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely

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Few-Spot-6475 Apr 14, 2026 -2

Nah it doesn’t corrupt. Power simply reveals one’s true character.

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Responsible-Ad-1086 Apr 14, 2026

Yes, however not every country deals with corruption

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csanjuan Apr 14, 2026 +30

Lawfare. La herramienta que supuestamente se apropió era freeware, el máster que supuestamente hacía por ser la mujer del presidente lo impartía desde 2014, muchos años antes de la llegada al poder de Pedro Sánchez. El juez dice que como usaba la Moncloa para su trabajo malversa fondos públicos, la Moncloa es el domicilio del jefe de estado y por supuesto de su mujer mientras ocupa el cargo. Firmó una carta en apoyo de un empresario ( carta que firmaron 30 personas más entre ellas gente del partido de la oposición) y el juez lo considera favoritismo. Un tremendo despropósito de un juez que entró en la carrera judicial a dedo, sin examen de oposición. Alguien quiere echar a Pedro Sánchez a toda costa. Por poner otro ejemplo, han acusado a la mujer de Pedro Sánchez de ser un hombre y también de recibir subvenciones que realmente recibió una mujer diferente con el mismo nombre y apellido. Y también de que su padre tenía negocios de prostitución. Un despropósito.

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ikertxu Apr 14, 2026 -10

Mentira. Ella trabajaba en la universidad desde el 2014. El master lo empezó en 2020…

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csanjuan Apr 14, 2026 +7

Estaba en la universidad desde el curso 2012/13 impartía clases de Fundraising que también tiene un master. Que la aparición de otro master por parte de la complutense sea tráfico de influencias hay que demostrarlo. La complutense tenía contratada a Begoña, entonces Pedro Sanchez gana las elecciones y tienen contratada a la mujer del presidente y tiene todo el sentido que la complutense quiera darse visibilidad con un master dado por la mujer del presidente. La documentación remitida al juzgado dice que la complutense pago a la mujer del presidente 39.188 € en diez años (de 2012 a 2022). Menudo trafico de influencias de saldo. LAWFARE.

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ikertxu Apr 14, 2026 -1

Miami me lo confirmó!

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RandomlyAgrees Apr 14, 2026 +1

Vaya fe tienes intentando defender este punto de vista en Listnook 😂

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ikertxu Apr 14, 2026

Me ves esforzándome mucho?

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AccordingInsect3481 Apr 14, 2026 +18

Why steal? Don't you fukkin have enough? Note: I am wrong. She is innocent, I think.

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SY0123 Apr 14, 2026 +25

It’s a charge, she’s not proven guilty. Anyone can be charged with anything.

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AccordingInsect3481 Apr 14, 2026 +10

Perhaps. Time will tell. Edit. The judge in this case is corrupt as fukk. Sorry for not doing my due diligence. I down voted myself.

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Gaminedes7 Apr 14, 2026 +14

It's not even a perhaps. Anyone who has actually been following this knows this is an ongoing smear campaign and that the judge should have beendisqualified/barred a year ago. There are solid corruption cases from previous members of his government but this isn't one of them. But international news aren't going to go into as much detail, cases take months/years, and the headlinea are already out, so the damage is done already

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AccordingInsect3481 Apr 14, 2026 +1

I stand corrected. Apologies.

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Gaminedes7 Apr 14, 2026 +3

There's no need to apologize. It's unrealistic for people to be informed of the case, especially if you're not Spanish, it's just unfortunate that's what Peinado (the judge that started the investigation) is counting on. I don't even like Pedro Sánchez by the way. There's enough corruption cases surrounding him that I struggle to believe he's clean. But this case specifically is a joke imo

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AccordingInsect3481 Apr 14, 2026 +1

Thanks. I commented without knowing anything. I am going to be more careful in the future.

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Few_Ad6516 Apr 14, 2026 +4

But there has to be evidence to charge someone for something.

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anortef Apr 14, 2026 +2

Not when the judge decides he does not care about proper procedure.

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AccordingInsect3481 Apr 14, 2026 +3

Edit. She is most certainly innocent. I stand corrected. The Judge is corrupt as fukk, not the lady.

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xmuskorx Apr 14, 2026 +63

quick blame Israel for something to distract people

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Rough-Philosophy-989 Apr 14, 2026 -5

🤣 great pattern recognition!!

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Dookienator Apr 14, 2026 +2

You should try reading the info surrounding this case. The judge is clearly corrupt and running a smear campaign on Pedro Sanchez who probably is corrupt like every other politician in every other country. The reason this is hitting the news so frequently is probably some hasbara or propaganda from either the US or Israel to delegitimize him as a politician. Edit: I forgot you’re not supposed to reply to people who are arguing in bad faith

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__Yakovlev__ Apr 14, 2026 +8

"everything i dont like is hasbara"

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xmuskorx Apr 14, 2026 +2

but KAHASBARAGGGH

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Dookienator Apr 14, 2026 +2

I'd be careful with these publications because politicians are frequently corrupt so the idea of shining a spotlight on the corruption of some politicians over others is primarily a propaganda tool.

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Monicreque Apr 14, 2026 +2

I care nothing about this woman or her husband, but all the instruction is fishy as hell and feels like blatant lawfare.

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BagAccording2155 Apr 15, 2026 +1

Timing is WAY too convenient... Speak and thou shall be punished is the current meta I see.

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officerboba Apr 14, 2026 -17

But I thought the PM is the moral beacon of Europe!? You’re telling me, the country that have pillaged entire continents for centuries and the very same country were just chilling during both world wars isn’t a good one? The world remembers what you did Spain, I’m from Philippines and the way you and Japan treated Filipinos were atrocious. The day will come when Spain will get the full treatment they did to the countries they pillaged and looted. It will come.

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Bitter_Thought Apr 14, 2026 +11

It’s dropped out of public discourse for reasons, but that “moral beacon” had a 400 year religious war on its Jews and their forcibly converted descendants across 3 continents. The inquisition and Spains war on Jews went on until 1834. It was illegal to be Jewish in Spain until 1968 with the rescinding of the Alhambra decree.

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Jealous-Effort4501 Apr 14, 2026 +8

I understand that a Filipino would have this emotional sentiment, but it is not factual. “Chilling in between world wars” was more like internal crisis where hundreds of thousands died. “Pillaging continents” is a way to say what they did, but for the context of the time back then it was something allot of other countries did. They also introduces universities and hospitals to allot of places in the world. Again, i understand the emotions you have, but please, this generation has nothing to do with any previous one.

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Beneficial_Bed_337 Apr 14, 2026 +1

There has been zero evidence of personal gains after 2 years of investigation XD

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Cleanbriefs Apr 14, 2026 +1

Spain has always had a hard on against tax cheats and corruption. They should really try to make it a franchise and get other countries to get rid of corrupt people.

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-Malheiros- Apr 14, 2026 -4

Being corrupt is one thing; speaking out against genocide and war crimes is another. These posts and most of the comments clearly show that the average person can’t tell the difference between the two.

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Rough-Philosophy-989 Apr 14, 2026 +8

So you're saying that if someone is corrupt it's ok as long as they speak out against genocide? Have you ever contemplated the possibility that people just say they are against something because it boosts their capacity for more money? In this case, Sanchez is trying to get China to invest in his country. China you know the country that has reeducation camps for Uighurs. The country that just executed two Canadian citizens for drug offenses. Everyone is giving them a pass while they fund Putin's war machine. It just doesn't make sense. I'm also a bit stunned that nobody has much to say about the 30,000 dead Iranian protestors. Two people got killed in America and we're STILL talking about it.

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-Malheiros- Apr 14, 2026 +5

Should he (or his wife) be prosecuted? Absolutely. But what they want you to think is that he and his family are pieces of shit, so whatever opinion he has shouldn’t be taken seriously, and he shouldn’t be supported. This is how they want the game to be played: there must be no in-betweens; it has to be either black or white. You must support your political party or leader as if you were supporting a football team.

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Dookienator Apr 14, 2026 +1

don't bother. this dude doesn't seem to argue in good faith

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Extension-Toe-7027 Apr 14, 2026 +1

I think a lot of mud is thrown towards the Israeli PM because he is facing an similar set of charges, and if I have to read that he Is only engaging in war as a way to prevent a court date I think Is only fair to point that maybe all the loud screaming by the Spanish pm might have been a way to distract from the accusations towards his wife

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CceliaM Apr 14, 2026

No no, aquí el problema son los jueces que tenemos que son partidistas. Dilo todo.

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Blunt_Hadder Apr 14, 2026 -35

Everytime someone criticizes Israel they or their family members are arrested or charged with crimes. For example Imran Khan of Pakistan.

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-TheWill- Apr 14, 2026 +26

Of course it is da jews. Thank you for claryfing it for me chief.

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Hopeful-Explorer-443 Apr 14, 2026 +12

you think jews who cannot even openly call themselves jew in pakistan and are a minority somehow got imran khan jailed rather than the well known military dictator after imran khan was haffing a tiff with the military

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Fruitcake6969 Apr 14, 2026 +1

Imram Khan is a rapist

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Euphoric-Garden-1210 Apr 14, 2026 -3

Isnt Netanyahu facing corruption charges too? Oh right, listnook thinks Israel cant ever do wrong.

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Positive-Road3903 Apr 14, 2026 -5

impeccable timing

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Spanish prime minister's wife charged with corruption after two-year probe

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