Not every project Nic Cage does is good. But every project he does is made better by him being in it.
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JDanzy15 hr ago
+46
Even his ideas that suck are unique at least, you might not enjoy his stuff the way he meant but you'll enjoy it on some level probably even if it's a "let's never speak of this again" level.
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Gh0stMan0nThird15 hr ago
+42
He never winks at the camera. Every bad role he's given, he gives 100%
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Indigocell11 hr ago
+6
That's what I respect about him. You get the same Nic Cage energy whether or not it's some low budget, straight to DVD kind of movie or a high budget film with acclaimed writers and directors.
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Phillip_Spidermen10 hr ago
+3
Even in that unofficial Five Nights at Freddy-like movie where he had no lines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v27rfaoB2Y
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ImGreat08410 hr ago
+1
That movie was so fun, he just beats the f*** out of animatronics
1
Gil_Demoono15 hr ago
+22
If you're gonna suck, suck *weird.*
Don't half-ass it and be embarrassed about sucking or reign it in so it isn't so obvious that you suck.
I just watched the Wachowski Speed Racer movie today for the first time and boy does it suck. But it is so utterly honest about what it wants to be and just f****** goes for it. The result is a balls to the walls Mike Myers Cat in the Hat style fever dream that you just can't help but fall in love with. At one point John Goodman bodyslams a ninja and that's gonna stick with me a lot longer than the plots of other more competent movies.
When Nick gets weird, he sucks, but in a very good way. I rarely know what he's going for, but I can always tell he's going for it.
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Firm-Feature-559313 hr ago
+13
I don't think he ever really sucks. If he's in a bad movie, he's the best thing in it. And if he's in a good movie, he always does a great job. He's not some kind of joke actor, he's legitimately one of the best actors of the modern era.
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NarrativeNode11 hr ago
+2
The man was the best damn Dracula I've ever seen in *Renfield*.
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Firm-Feature-559311 hr ago
+5
Definitely not a great movie, but god imagine it without him. It'd be nothing.
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Ranwulf10 hr ago
+1
Wachowski Speed Racer is EXACTLY what a Speed Racer movie has to be. Its cheesy, its colorful and fun.
1
Cognitive_Spoon17 hr ago
+69
Nic Cage energy is crazy.
Every bad movie ever made could become a good movie if he had been cast as a character and dialed it up to 11.
I challenge anyone to disprove this deep truth of the universe.
My wife and I call it "The Cage Law" and we sometimes talk about shitty old movies and imagine which character would have allowed it to be made into a classic if Nic had been cast.
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TheLostSkellyton15 hr ago
+11
He *thinks* about his roles with that same energy, and can articulate exactly why and how he makes all the decisions he does for any given character, and it shows. There was a very limited printing Criterion release of The Rock back in the day, and its directors commentary track with Cage, Ed Harris, Michael Bay, and Jerry Bruckheimer is genuinely the best talk I've heard on the art and craft of filmmaking and acting.
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Cognitive_Spoon15 hr ago
+2
Neuvo-Shamanic acting talent, lol
2
Hazel-Cakes16 hr ago
+4
that assassin movie he was in was atrocious
4
Prime4Cast12 hr ago
+1
Bangkok dangerous was cool af
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kmacthefunky16 hr ago
+3
I almost feel like it's entirely the director. If the director can focus him and use him correctly he's amazing .
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rufio31316 hr ago
+5
He was brilliant in Pig.
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Cognitive_Spoon16 hr ago
+6
Sometimes he breaks through, also, though.
Go watch National Treasure 2.
It's not a National Treasure movie, it's a Nic Cage movie that has coopted the National Treasure brand. There's moments of pure Cage energy that all the other characters struggle to keep it together around, and it is virtuosic
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Soft-Ad-897517 hr ago
+9
What about all the shitty movies he’s done purely for the $?
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Cognitive_Spoon16 hr ago
+47
They wouldn't exist at all without him, rule stands, lol
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Soft-Ad-897516 hr ago
-6
Really, all the straight to dvd/vod forgettable trash he did for years? You don’t think they would have just used one of the dozens of other actors making the same slop for a nickel?
-6
theprotectedneck15 hr ago
+12
Those movies got the funding to be made because Cage was in them.
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No-stradumbass15 hr ago
+11
Like Willy's Wonderland? Where he didn't say a single thing the whole movie and still was able to go full Cage while playing pinball.
11
ralph44200013 hr ago
+3
I love this movie, so ridiculous, so weird, but so f’ing entertaining!
3
HateKilledTheDinos12 hr ago
+1
Truly a master class in how you can't cage the Cage!
I've watched that movie a fair amount and for whatever reason love it.
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peppermint_nightmare13 hr ago
+1
They would be worse if the character he played was acted by someone else.
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ZennTheFur16 hr ago
-5
They're no longer shitty because of Cage. Pretty sure that's what they're saying. He's capable of singlehandedly carrying a shitty movie into at the very least cult classic status.
Bruce Willis was very similar. The fifth element was mediocre at best, but he carried that shit so hard.
-5
Fabray1316 hr ago
+16
> The fifth element was mediocre at best, but he carried that shit so hard.
Not every day you see a take this bad.
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ZennTheFur16 hr ago
-2
It's a cult classic for a reason. I really love the movie, but believe there are very few actors who could have pulled off what he did.
-2
Fabray1316 hr ago
+3
Idk if it’s really a cult classic though, it’s nearly universally liked at this point. The *cult* part would be the people that think it’s one of the best movies ever made.
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ZennTheFur16 hr ago
+1
It's very widely considered a cult classic. I can't speak exactly to the reasoning, but critic reviews of it are pretty divided, while, like you said, audience reviews are generally very positive. That's at least one of the hallmarks of a cult classic.
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Fabray1316 hr ago
+1
Cult classics kind of have to bomb at the box office though, they have to be un(der)appreciated in their time. The Fifth Element did really well in theaters, and critics were mixed *at worst*, it was reviewed well too.
I don’t think the conventional opinion has ever really changed on this one; it was well liked at the time, and is still considered one of the best sci fi movies of the decade.
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ZennTheFur16 hr ago
Like I said, I can't speak to the reasoning. But if you look it up, you'll see that it is considered by most people to be a cult classic.
It doesn't at all have to bomb at the box office to be a cult classic. It just has to be an old movie with an enduring and enthusiastic fan base that for one reason or another doesn't have widespread appeal. The fifth element is a strange movie and nothing about it in particular stands out as *good*, and especially these days most people haven't seen it, if they've even heard of it at all.
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PerforatedPie9 hr ago
+1
You are grossly underselling Gary Oldman's performance. And Chris Tucker. And any number of other actors who shined.
Meanwhile you're gushing over "Do you really think they'd give the leading role to Walter" Willis.
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thejawa16 hr ago
+5
> The fifth element was mediocre at best
I will throw hands, where you at?
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ZennTheFur16 hr ago
I think my point is being missed lol.
The mediocrity was part of the point. The director basically took a ton of super overplayed cliches and made an entire film around them intentionally.
Korben Dallas's cliche, for example, is a shallow protagonist whose entire role is to be badass and shoot bad guys. That just happens to be like... the culmination of Bruce Willis's repertoire. Nobody could deliver a silly cliche action hero one-liner like he could, and part of the movie's charm is that it leans into that.
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irontuskk13 hr ago
+1
Simply because a movie was built on cliches doesn't mean it is mediocre on purpose. I've talked to a significant amount of film folks over the years and this is the wildest take. The music, choreography, cinematography, set design, costume design, makeup, pacing, and dialogue are all stellar. Literally nothing about this movie is mediocre lmao. Leaning in to a cliche, perhaps. You're going to have to walk this one back my guy, you are just so off base. If you think Bruce Willis carried this movie you've kind of lost the plot. Milla was killer. Chris Tucker's character could be played by literally nobody else. Gary Oldman absolutely bonkers in this role. Even smaller roles like Ian Holm and Lee Evans were iconic. Tommy Lister Jr. as the president bantering with Korben's mom was a small moment but also so memorable. I am just ranting at this point but I've never been so flabbergasted at a comment on listnook as I am by yours. To jail with you.
I don’t have time for Nicolas FRIKKIN’ CAGE! OKAY?!
AAAAAAHW!!! OOOOOOOOOOH!! AAAAAAAAAAAAHW!!
I’m a cat! I’m a s*** cat!
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HateKilledTheDinos12 hr ago
+1
You and your wife sound amazing.
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Storvox12 hr ago
+5
He's been pretty fantastic in everything he's been involved in recently, even if the project itself sucks. He's definitely done a lot to restore his image in the eyes of the general public.
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killbill-duck16 hr ago
+2
Yeah because it's cage
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Efficient_Fish243611 hr ago
+1
This is either gonna be another Ghost rider 2.... or something amazing.
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bluehawk2328 hr ago
+1
I liked him as the voice for it in SV and if they did animated series for this fine. But live action? Not a good choice. He's in his 60s and the character should be half his age. And if the character is supposed to be in his 30s I ain't buying Cage at that
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corgi-king13 hr ago
+1
Come on, he has The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent.
But like what the f***, some of his recent movies got 3.6, 4.5 on IMDB.
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SirBabiez13 hr ago
+1
Good. Someone must. His momma doesn’t.
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Tuesday_Night_Club18 hr ago
+183
This is sick.
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Internal_Access_888317 hr ago
-102
sick of Bezos, yes
-102
RiverShards18 hr ago
+117
Holy shit this looks so fun. I’m so in.
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PapaSnow11 hr ago
+4
I love the Across the Spiderverse audio references that pop in about halfway through
So cool
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BrichardRurphy17 hr ago
+64
Of course I'm watching the B&W version but damn the colors on the other version are so rich. Especially since so many shows look so dull nowadays...
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CubitsTNE15 hr ago
+10
Reminds me of the d*** tracy movie.
Which totally still holds up, holy shit what a wild visual production!
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zurdopilot16 hr ago
+18
First B&W then color no other way around it, i only hope for theatrical release
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dean1589215 hr ago
+8
B&W upon weekly releases, and then binge the color version the week of the season finale.
This is the Way.
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zurdopilot14 hr ago
+4
Wait what? This is a series? I was so exited didnt even notice this is even better!!! AWESOME!
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Torrrs9 hr ago
+3
They're not doing weekly releases
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Puzzled-Instance321118 hr ago
+83
This looks fantastic! And it looks gorgeous in black and white.
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goddamnitwhalen14 hr ago
+14
Same DP who shot *Twin Peaks: The Return*!
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Development-Feisty16 hr ago
+40
Surprisingly the color is also gorgeous because it’s really bright and colorful like old technicolor
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TheJoshider1013 hr ago
+10
Yeah I'm so glad they went all in with the old school colours rather than making it generically muted like so many shows today. Black and white will be my first watch but I'll definitely check out the colour version at some point.
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polopolo0512 hr ago
+2
its not sepia. shades of brown veres what we have here shades of black and blue.
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sourcefourmini18 hr ago
+72
Wild that the full-color "it sounds crazy I know" shot at the end is from the same show. Something about the scene+color literally makes it look like it's from a sitcom where Nic Cage's character is talking about a ridiculous spider dream he had.
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rhythmrice14 hr ago
+25
They also released the trailer in color and in this version it shows that last scene in black and white, so the whole trailer is swapped
https://youtu.be/LpN2RavI5C8
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Shawnj212 hr ago
+8
Honestly I think black and white will be a better experience, watching the color version of the trailer it feels like the color version is an afterthought and the black and white version is the "intended" release
Also like classic who black and white hides some of the lower quality CGI and effects
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Dr_J_Hyde9 hr ago
+1
I think that was intentional. They wanted this series to feel like it's not from our era. More like an old classic that just got the "now in color" treatment.
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polopolo0512 hr ago
+1
I am watching black and white frist...seems wrong to watch it in color
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Minimum-Web-690216 hr ago
+3
Uhhh lol you might be on to something….
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devenrc17 hr ago
+39
Nicolas Cage literally IS this version of the character. Like it’s not even funny. Just complete unironic committment to it.
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AndNowAStoryAboutMe17 hr ago
+16
If this is weekly, I'd do release day in B&W and then a True Hue ™️ re-watch mid-week before every new episode. I actually love that it's coming out in both. Hoping for a 4K UHD Blu-Ray with both versions seconds after a trailer premiere is not something I expected of myself this year.
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Outrageous_Issue72417 hr ago
+7
I wish they'd post the trailer in 4K
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qartas17 hr ago
+6
Prime but Marvel character?
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ilrosewood16 hr ago
+16
Spider-* is still owned by Sony.
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qartas16 hr ago
+3
Oh! Thanks :)
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Darth_Atton16 hr ago
+6
He's a spider. He's a s*** spider.
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MrGabrahamLincoln16 hr ago
+3
This has a higher ceiling than Brand New Day for me. Also has a lower floor since it’s such an unknown, but it’s exciting to have a live action Spider-Man that isn’t standard modern day Spidey. Really hope they don’t fumble this.
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mangosawce9k18 hr ago
+8
This fits and slaps, why is Nic Cage so cool!
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AndNowAStoryAboutMe17 hr ago
+9
I am so fuckin' interested.
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Palidane718 hr ago
+20
Awesome. I can't imagine watching this in color. Defeats the whole purpose!
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creature0417 hr ago
-6
its the only way i will watch it
-6
kznfkznf17 hr ago
+2
Why?
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YeaImStoned17 hr ago
+21
Paid for a color tv didn’t he!?
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pepperbet117 hr ago
+19
Just a fad. It'll never catch on.
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creature0416 hr ago
+3
i dont like movies or shows in B/W
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rhythmrice14 hr ago
+1
Clerks would like to have a word with you
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creature0412 hr ago
+1
never seen it
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ArchDucky17 hr ago
+3
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
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tyme17 hr ago
+13
☝️In color
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mrj918 hr ago
+7
This looks really good
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greenufo33317 hr ago
+8
I think this is awesome but at the same time having a 65 year old spiderman is kinda wild
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UnbuiltIkeaBookcase16 hr ago
+7
Damn I didn’t realize Cage was THAT old
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MrGabrahamLincoln16 hr ago
+10
It wouldn’t work if he was Peter Parker-Spider-Man but for whatever reason it doesn’t bother me since he’s grizzled-1930s-detective-Ben Reilly-Spider-Man
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greenufo33315 hr ago
+2
Yeah true
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OriginalMisphit8 hr ago
+1
Yeah, was just wishing this could be a younger Nic Cage. He is such a physical actor that I worry that age could result in noticeable limitations. And as an almost 50 y.o. woman, his age makes me wish for an older lead actress if her character is any kind of love interest for him. But I’m being hyper critical of something in the middle of the night.
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Disastrous-House59117 hr ago
+3
heck yes
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HauntingStar0817 hr ago
+3
I feel like seeing this in color is just cheating, black and white is the way to go
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GiannisGOAT675317 hr ago
+3
The hardest decision for this is to watch in black and white or color. Hell why not both? I fuckin love Spider-Man.
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MrGabrahamLincoln16 hr ago
+2
Yeah I’m also torn, both appeal to me. I’ll probably do color first & then b&w if it’s good enough for an immediate rewatch.
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stonhinge13 hr ago
+2
I know I enjoyed the Werewolf By Night in b/w so I may actually give the b/w Spider-Noir a shot.
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CrazyDoode16 hr ago
+3
I watched the first 19 seconds of this trailer and I yelled NOOOO - I just had to turn it off. No spoilers please I am going to watch this as soon as it's released, and again prolly too. This looks stellar and probably the best thing since FOtv.
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Pretty_Frosting_258815 hr ago
+3
I hope the black and white version has a post credits scene with a colorful Rubik's cube in the background.
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insaniTY15114 hr ago
+3
I don't know him personally, but I am so happy for Nic Cage that he gets to cook in live action with this character. What a f****** career.
3
CBenson127317 hr ago
+12
Watched both versions. I think I’m more excited about the black and white version - something about it looks more noir-ish that isn’t the same in bright color.
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Diogenese500018 hr ago
+6
If this looks good to you, check out Sin City if you haven’t seen it.
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ramenups17 hr ago
-11
What should I check out if it doesn’t look good to me
-11
zaminDDH17 hr ago
+10
Love Island
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Diogenese50009 hr ago
+1
Homie these guys are hating, but I’m with you. I like the concept and fun tone, dig Nic Cage, but wasn’t really moved by the trailer.
I just kept thinking, Sin City is 20 years old and still looks way better than this.
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Lespaul4215 hr ago
+1
Up your butt
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iyqyqrmore17 hr ago
-4
Harry Potter reboot on apple I guess
-4
Mr_Wh0ever18 hr ago
+5
Damn, this looks good. I can't wait to watch.
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WellIGuessSoAndYou17 hr ago
+5
I've been totally over comic book media for many years now but this has my attention.
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AttentionAlert474218 hr ago
+4
Whoa, I had assumed this was going to be animated. This looks cool
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Klutzy_Anybody_148712 hr ago
+1
who would animate that? sony animation who couldn't get 4 hours of spiderman out in nearly a decade?
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Indigoh17 hr ago
-3
Same. Personally, the fact that it's live action halves my interest it.
-3
Firesky5416 hr ago
+2
Gonna say I like the old style of the trailer.
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Fredasa10 hr ago
+2
I really wish Netflix's trailer editor had put his foot down and _refused_ to immediately cut in with that infomercial-esque outro with that damn upbeat jingle.
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millterrance16 hr ago
+1
This gives me arrowverse vibes in a good way. The best of arrowverse was when it didn't take itself too seriously
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obi_wan_peirogi16 hr ago
+2
This looks amazing and i love gleeson in everything but im having a hard time with nic cage for this… dont get me wrong i love nic but it doesnt feel right.. tell me why im wrong if i am.
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dubstylerz12316 hr ago
+1
This is beautiful.
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Wickedgamer116 hr ago
+1
I did NOT see that coming. looks dope!
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AF200516 hr ago
+1
He’s toning down the Cage factor from what it looks like. But it looks fun, I’m in
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towehaal16 hr ago
+1
Wait this is an episodic tv show?
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goddamnitwhalen14 hr ago
+1
Yes.
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rhythmrice14 hr ago
+1
Yeah, comes out next month
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zurdopilot16 hr ago
+1
Hells yeahhhhh!!!!!
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stakencake16 hr ago
+1
We should be counting our lucky stars to still have Cage
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DispatchMinion15 hr ago
+1
Watch in black and white or go away
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Stark1ller2215 hr ago
+1
Colors look gorgeous tho
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OneRandomVictory14 hr ago
+1
I'm kinda here for it
1
markb14414 hr ago
+1
Hell yeah
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Coreyharich13 hr ago
+1
Damn that looks really good.
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RealmDevourer12 hr ago
+1
Surely watching this in black and white. Just adds a bit more vibe to the “noir”.
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Butters576812 hr ago
+1
Sorry this looks awesome.
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fr4nk_j4eger11 hr ago
+1
still not paying for prime
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Simple_Paramedic791011 hr ago
+1
Looks really mid
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ArchDucky17 hr ago
+1
Guys! Look! They have old timey powers! Who thought they would have old timey powers?!? Thats so neat!
1
qawsedrf1217 hr ago
+1
When?
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DJC1317 hr ago
+4
27th May.
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qawsedrf1217 hr ago
+1
TY
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spacelyyy98916 hr ago
+1
Isn't Nicolas Cage a little too old to be a Spider Man?
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ineedsomefuckingcoco13 hr ago
+2
He isn't Peter Parker.
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ScientificAnarchist15 hr ago
+1
Yeah but maybe that’s the point it’s an over the hill Spider-Man story trying to overcome impossible odds
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-Munford-17 hr ago
Looks a bit like a WB show from the 2000’s
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No_Development_953717 hr ago
-3
I won’t be watching anything on the fascist supporting anti-environment and anti-consumer platform. F*** Amazon.
-3
Indigoh17 hr ago
+2
Fully agreed. Might watch it, but not in any way that sends my money to Bezos.
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Internal_Access_888317 hr ago
-2
Amazon? Nah, I'll pass
-2
ilrosewood16 hr ago
-3
It should never ever have been released in color.
-3
AbroadThink103915 hr ago
-1
Why wasn’t this animated lol
-1
Saltimbanco_volta18 hr ago
-13
Looks like flat TV lighting and effects that they applied a c**** black and white filter on top
That's what you get when they're forced to make it both in black and white and in color at the same time.
-13
jjflash7812 hr ago
-2
Why is Ghost Rider in it?
-2
VicViolence18 hr ago
-14
Nic Cage sounds like the Novocain is starting to wear off
-14
Irving9418 hr ago
+11
Sounds like the Novocain is kicking in to me….
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NtheLegend17 hr ago
-9
I think it's cowardly that they didn't just do one version or the other. They had to "four quadrants" that shit.
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Development-Feisty16 hr ago
+2
I think the whole point of the color version is it’s not normal color it’s very much like technical color the color you would see at the time
at that time movies were still coming out in black-and-white or color depending on budget so it’s very true to what they’re trying to represent
In fact the beautiful look of noir is specifically because of the low budgets creating constraints
No time to have a c*** ton of lights set up with diffusers, straight on studio lights quick set up quick teardown enjoy your shadows
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inmyrhyme17 hr ago
-12
The whole trailer looks like AI. Every cliche shot ever.
But this might be so damn good. Def gonna check it out.
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