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Star Trek Deep Space 9 Has One Of The Best Episodes On PTSD

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Was the episode that solidified Deep Space 9 as my favorite Trek series. Up until his death, the actor got fan mail from veterans commenting on how his performance reflected what they went throug

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YOGURT___ihateyogurt Mar 25, 2026 +114
DS9 truly expanded upon what Star Trek could be. The writing and storytelling wasn't as controlled and it really flourished with a fantastic cast.
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SocialWinker Mar 25, 2026 +29
I really did not appreciate DS9 when I was younger, even when I loved TOS, TNG, and Voyager. I did a rewatch during COVID, and damn did it hit well.
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Chad_Broski_2 Mar 25, 2026 +17
I think it just had the impossible task of following up TNG, especially in an era where a ton of other good sci-fi stuff was coming out alongside it. TNG was such a massive step ahead of almost everything else in its era, while DS9 not only had to be compared to TNG at every turn, it also had to compete for screentime with X Files, Quantum Leap, Twin Peaks, etc Now that we have the advantage of hindsight, and some truly awful Star Trek to compare it to, we can safely say how great DS9 was, lol
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SocialWinker Mar 25, 2026 +7
You’re probably on to something. I was also a lot younger then. I think growing up gave me a lot of maturity I probably lacked through my 20s, to be honest. I’ve noticed how much more empathetic I’ve become in my 30s, and I think that genuinely played a major role in my appreciation for a more nuanced Trek show.
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wrosecrans Mar 25, 2026 +2
It really took until the era of Netflix streaming for a lot of people to sit down and watch DS9 in order from start to finish. It was a show that was in some ways very much of its time. But in other ways it was way too ahead of its time to be a commercial success. In the early 90's, almost nobody was going to watch every single episode in order. Even die hard fans who taped the new episodes would tune in and watch "whatever" rerun episode was on this week and bounce around somewhat. And you'd go months and months between a season finale and next season premiere, so you'd lose some of the momentum of a cliffhanger. And you'd lose track of the character development, etc. Now you can settle in and watch one episode a night and all the stuff hits different. Especially when you remember the whole show was made between the collapse of the USSR and 9/11, at a time the US was pretty much at peace. Terrorism wasn't a hot button topic yet. PTSD from the GWOT wasn't a hot button topic yet. The "evil empire" trope seemed a bit distant and outdated. If DS9 premiered in 2003 instead of 1993, a main character being a _justified_ terrorist would have been the most controversial thing happening in media.
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TheLaughingMannofRed Mar 25, 2026 +8
My DS9 watch was actually a couple of years ago. Well before that, I saw Babylon 5. One I went back to periodically over my life. But DS9...aside from a general concept that was identical to B5, it felt like just the right show to get into Star Trek. I got to see VOY after finishing DS9, and I liked it, but it did have some imperfections with its execution (yet the idea of a whole ship of people trying to get home had such a hook to get me interested). And TNG was just a very slow crawl to make it to where it got real good. But seeing TNG after DS9 gave me an appreciation for some of the connections that existed between both shows. One of the biggest changes I enjoyed was >!O'Brien!<, followed by >!Worf!<. Yet with DS9, the first season had me hooked at some point. It got me to marathon the show hard. And by the end, I resolved to get it for my home media collection. Just waiting for the DVDs to get to a good price. It sucks that getting a Blu-Ray will likely not happen, but I would sooner take DVDs of this show because it is just that good.
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Maybeyesmaybeno Mar 25, 2026 +6
I’m rewatching B5 with my kids. We’re almost through the infamously bad season 1. You know what? Even this bad first season? It is darned Good. The one off TNG style episodes are actually dark and brutal in places, lots are just okay but the B plot story is also fun and good, it really is way better than people give it credit for. I’m going out in a limb here but I think B5’s first season is better than TNG’s first season, and I adore TNG. Maybe I’m wrong, but it’s not nearly as bad as it’s talked about.
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AgentElman Mar 25, 2026 +4
I've never thought the first season of B5 is bad - it just isn't the epic storyline of the next 3 seasons.
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DaedalusRaistlin Mar 26, 2026 +1
It's got a lot of characters to setup. It's one I keep trying to get into, but I guess my attention span is shorter compared to when TNG was airing on TV. I know B5 is good and some scenes have been really amazing, I just struggle for some reason. But I've heard there's rely good pay off's for all that, and want to make it there. The first season is often tougher for Sci Fi, and I've certainly gotten into stranger first seasons of stranger shows (loved Lexx when I was younger, can't really recommend it to many people.)
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rsvpism1 Mar 25, 2026 +3
I always liked that Voyager and DS9 took two different elements of what star trek was and allowed the shows to be different. DS9 being more of the philosophical thoughtful show and Voyager focusing on exploration and explosions. Obviously both shows had both elements, but I like that DS9 doubled down on it.
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corvus_wulf Mar 25, 2026 +39
Would "Duet" count as the 3rd best then
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AtomStorageBox Mar 25, 2026 +24
“Duet” is still one of my all-time favorite episodes of *Trek*, regardless of series.
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Ok-Strain2948 Mar 25, 2026 +22
The fact that “Duet” was so early in the show’s lifespan was truly remarkable. Such an amazing episode, which was basically Nana Visitor and Harris Yulin in a room together acting their asses off.
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Stillwater215 Mar 25, 2026 +9
And that it was basically written as a filler episode.
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therikermanouver Mar 25, 2026 +3
Reminds me alot of the epsiodes Dalek in series 1 of the modern Doctor who reboot. Such sn early epsiode hitting so hard and holding up so well decades later is brilliant
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drumike Mar 25, 2026 +30
RIP Aron Eisenberg
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RomulanTreachery Mar 25, 2026 +43
DS9 also has the second-best episode on PTSD, "Hard Time" 
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LakyousSama Mar 25, 2026 +10
And "Duet"
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GushStasis Mar 25, 2026 +17
Particularly poignant because of how optimistic and upbeat he was prior to the trauma. To later see how he closes himself off and withdraws emotionally from all his friends was especially hard to watch. Like the light in him was snuffed out And it was also relatable how he initially trys to deal with the trauma (or rather avoid it) by retreating into the holodeck as a place of comfort Such a powerful episode
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NomadNimoy Mar 25, 2026 +15
He nailed that shit, the writers got it, the director got it, it was legit and moving. DS9 was something that was special and moving. The cast got it, if you didn’t, i’m sorry it was special and unique in not just trek but everything. It makes me sad that he is gone and DS9 without him and René could truly find an ending. DS9 was special.
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ElectricPeterTork Mar 25, 2026 +13
The writers would later joke that if they'd known they would be getting a followup episode like this out of The Siege of AR-558, they would've cut O'Brien's leg off instead of leaving the episode totally to non-main cast. They also floated the idea of cutting both of Nog's legs off, but decided that might be too much. And, the director of the episode? Fuckin' Potsie. Anson Williams of Happy Days fame was a director by this point in his career, and this was one of the Trek episodes he directed.
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JEH39 Mar 25, 2026 +6
Fun fact: his birth name is Anson Williams Heimlich and his cousin is the doctor of the eponymous maneuver
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Aevum1 Mar 25, 2026 +12
its one of 2 episodes about PTSD Remember Hard time ? Obrian has 20 years of jail time implanted in to his head...
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KaladinarLighteyes Mar 25, 2026 +2
Arguably three with Duet.
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Leepysworld Mar 25, 2026 +8
damn, time for my annual rewatch already?
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Content_Geologist420 Mar 25, 2026 +19
DS9 had the best of everything. God it was so so good.
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Pharazonian Mar 25, 2026 +5
ds9 has all the best episodes
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Zesher_ Mar 25, 2026 +5
It warms my heart to hear that, but I didn't know he passed away, so now I'm sad.
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NewHumbug Mar 25, 2026 +5
One of the BEST story arcs in television history.
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OctOJuGG Mar 25, 2026 +6
DS9 has always been my favorite. TNG is dead close. TNG is dead close because it is consistently good and uplifting and refreshing. But DS9 have these real life smacking moments filled with vulnerability that feels much more relatable to humanity than TNG. The best of DS9 beats TNG best. But TNG has consistent quality so I get why some think it is better. But DS9 imo is a breakthrough series of Trek. It highlights over TNG. Nothing today that is made can touch it.
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Warhorse_99 Mar 25, 2026 +3
TNG was always my favorite when I was younger. I was a combat medic in the Army, 3 tours to Iraq, seem some stuff to say the least. I have bad PTSD. After all that I rewatched all the series, and DS9 just hit home. Those Nog episodes just hit me like a punch to the gut. It’s real. DS9 is now my top Star Trek show. My dog is named Dax. My youngest daughter is named Kiera Nerys (compromise with the wife on the spelling of Kiera/Kira) and we had Nana Visitor do our birth announcement video.
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yetzt Mar 25, 2026 +8
amazing what is possible with 24 episodes per season instead of 6-10.
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ElectricPeterTork Mar 25, 2026 +7
With the current "Pressteege Teevee" model, there would be no Nog, Rom, Leeta, or Vic, since all of them were one off characters who the people and writers liked and were able to evolve. So basically, this episode doesn't have any of the characters that it focuses on. But something something "filler" bad, we want 10 hour movies crammed full of padding to make an hour and a half film into 10 hours of content and chopped up into segments.
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canadian_xpress Mar 25, 2026 -8
This is an unusual exception. Most series ran the "soap opera" model of positioning important or high impact episodes near holidays or seasonal breaks, sweeps week, etc. Episodes with narrative driven plots were meant to capture the most amount of eyes, otherwise you're watching a "Time's Orphan" or "Move Along Home". Shorter seasons are fine. I've never seen Stargate because there's like 500 episodes of the thing. I don't have time to gamble on a show that might be 10% filler episodes.
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sassyfontaine Mar 25, 2026 +3
WHAT A PERFORMACE
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hmilan1 Mar 25, 2026 +2
Isn’t it! Like surprising fantastic acting.
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Mysterious_Ant8200 Mar 25, 2026 +3
Yeah that episode hits way harder than people expect from Trek. Star Trek: Deep Space Nine in general got darker as it went on, but “It’s Only a Paper Moon” is on another level. Nog dealing with PTSD after losing his leg felt way too real, especially compared to how TV usually handles trauma. And Aron Eisenberg absolutely carried it. The way he just shuts down and escapes into the holosuite instead of “bouncing back” was painfully accurate. Also Vic Fontaine being the one to help him process it was such a weird choice on paper, but it worked surprisingly well. It wasn’t some grand speech or miracle fix, just slow, uncomfortable healing. Totally get why veterans reached out to him. That episode didn’t feel like sci-fi, it felt like someone actually understood what they were going through.
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throw0101a Mar 25, 2026 +2
> Up until his death TIL: in 2019 at 50: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aron_Eisenberg
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fatal_supremacy Mar 25, 2026 +2
Currently watching ds9 for the first time. Enjoying it so far. Just started season 2
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Team7UBard Mar 25, 2026 +1
But what’s the name of the episode?
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Doc-11th Mar 25, 2026 +9
It’s Only A Paper Moon
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Team7UBard Mar 25, 2026 +2
Thank you!
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exclaim_bot Mar 25, 2026
>Thank you! You're welcome!
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munkeycop Mar 25, 2026 +1
I’m one episode away from finishing my first proper watch through of DS9. It has been so good. It’ll be a shame to finish it.
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ReleaseFromDeception Mar 25, 2026 +1
PTSD and CPTSD are silent killers. You never know what a person is struggling through. Love, compassion, patience, and understanding are needed as much as medicine to make it bearable.
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Danskoesterreich Mar 25, 2026 +1
Is that the actress who played malcoms mom?
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Opening_Garlic_50 Mar 26, 2026 +1
Rewatching DS9 as a father hits a lot harder.
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maynardsabeast Mar 26, 2026 +1
I’m mixed on it cuz It is undeniably great but I also hate the Vic character
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steak4take Mar 25, 2026 +1
This right here is why I’m so f****** sick of RLM’s Mike, Jay and Rich deciding to define DS9 as the “dark trek”. It’s an incredibly heartfelt and hopeful series with the intent of telling well-crafted stories about the struggles we all face. Never fall prey to hopelessness. F*** RLM.
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Boop0p Mar 25, 2026 +1
Eh, there's too much going on in the world for me to have such strong opinions on people who might disagree with what I think about works of fiction.
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jl_theprofessor Mar 25, 2026 +1
And up next! Star Trek Academy!
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boomosaur Mar 25, 2026 -68
Ah yes, back when trek had strong progressive messaging, but wasn't deludedly woke.
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Doc-11th Mar 25, 2026 +19
Really Star Trek has always been woke the Kirk/Uhura kiss was revolutionary While not explicit, characters like Odo and Dax could for sure be classified under something LGBT on their very nature (Non binary or gender fluid)
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boomosaur Mar 25, 2026 -18
Depends on which definition of woke you mean, the original definition yea... the new connotation, only modern trek has been that level of woke, and it's hurt most of the new shows.
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DaemonKeido Mar 25, 2026 +16
So you just want to move goalposts to make it do you win this argument, good to know. Because we all recognize that anyone using woke perjoratively is not being as granular as you are trying. Let's make this very clear: Star Trek has always been woke, right at the beginning with the first interracial kiss on American TV screens. What has hurt the modern shows is substandard writing. We have decades of previous Star Trek shows or even single episodes (looking at you, Code of Honor) that have also had such issues. You WANT the failure to be "wokeness" because if you admit it was c*** writing you'd also have to admit that if it was better written that even the most woke content episode ever might have you enjoy yourself for an hour. And we can't have that, can we?
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bluesmaker Mar 25, 2026 +1
Well written comment. I think the disagreement people are having here is overly semantic. Like, I don't think most people really are disagreeing on a fundamental level. That commenter just used the word woke pejoratively. Just going to quote one of your sentences because it was so good: >Because we all recognize that anyone using woke pejoratively is not being as granular as you are trying. I do want to say, I think "moving the goalposts" is a little much. Your response is stronger without using this "redditism."
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NuPNua Mar 25, 2026 +1
>first interracial kiss on American TV screens. That's actually a myth, it was probably the most high profile one, but not the first.
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boomosaur Mar 25, 2026 -4
I haven't moved any goalposts at all. It is just extremely obtuse to not understand how language changes over time. Star Trek used to be old woke... it is now new woke... new woke fails miserably... while old woke delivered strong and thoughtful messages to try and inspire progress.
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Knees0ck Mar 25, 2026 +15
> Depends on which definition of woke you mean Brother, that is what's called moving the goal post.
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boomosaur Mar 25, 2026
No... it's called context, something that declining literacy rates and social media have conditioned people out of understanding.
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DaemonKeido Mar 25, 2026 +11
I disagree that you are moving goalposts. The fact you feel the need to determine an old woke and new woke proves such. There is simply woke, and it evolves as the society that it affects changes. The sad reality is that society hasn't changed as much as it should have. But let's get specific. There must be particular episodes you have in mind as specific success of "old woke" and failure of "new woke" so give me examples. I want to see how much of your opinion on this matter has weight. You have yet to showcase anything beyond an unsupported stance.
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OreoSpeedwaggon Mar 25, 2026 +1
I think they just disliked seeing a sensitive, pacifist, queer, GF Klingon wearing a skirt on SFA. That's probably what they meant by "new woke."
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boomosaur Mar 25, 2026 +1
Only obtuse people think definitions and connotations can't change over time lol.
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DaemonKeido Mar 25, 2026 +7
I noticed how you have yet to show evidence of your claim despite my request. If you are right and definitions and connotations change you shouldn't have issues with my request. To remind you, I'm simply asking for one successful "old woke" episode and one failed "new woke" episode. I'll wait.
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boomosaur Mar 25, 2026
You'd have to be capable of nuanced thought... to be worth the time, sadly you haven't shown that you are.
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DaemonKeido Mar 25, 2026 +3
Hey if you want to surrender your point without effort that is your decision. My nuanced thought was you haven't watched any Star Trek shows since Captain Archer was catching flak from the community. You seem content to prove me right.
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ErichPryde Mar 25, 2026 +16
The only reason it wasn't called "woke" is because the term hadn't been popularized, but it sure was hated for all the same reasons woke things are hated today. But sure, by 2026 standards I guess this show was not that progressive. Man, I wonder how Homefront would hit if it was aired today though, huh?
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boomosaur Mar 25, 2026 -26
That's not really what is being said here... Old woke = progressive, thoughtful concepts to try and push society forward to a more accepting and civil place. New woke = performative and illogical... narcissistically fixated on the labels, with none of the thought about the bigger picture and the intent of progressive ideology. A very simple example of modern woke is people that are extremely intolerant of any view that doesn't 100% perfectly line up with their own, but have convinced themselves they stand for progressive values. If someone deviates from their views even slightly, they are called a bigot or nazi or some other unhinged accusation.
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ErichPryde Mar 25, 2026 +11
So by your definition, people who call things woke to dismiss them totally are being woke?
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boomosaur Mar 25, 2026 -16
No, this is a reading comprehension issue on your end... this is about the term woke having a new connotation based on what the majority of people associate it with... Like many things, a wave of unhinged zealots have adopted it and changed its meaning because they like the idea of seeing themselves as enlightened, despite in reality being extremely illogical and pushing people away from progressive ideology with their unhinged behavior. The same type of people would prefer star trek shows that focus on superficial and performative checkboxes, instead of having good writing and meaningful messages behind that writing.
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THEbaddestOFtheASSES Mar 25, 2026 +1
This exact show could come out now and you and the rest of the grifter crowd would still be screaming woke.
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bluesmaker Mar 25, 2026 +1
I think had you used different language but the same message people wouldn’t have downvoted you and would’ve gotten your meaning. And I don’t mean that your wording was actually particularly terrible, just that if you attack something for being “woke” a lot of people just get the signal “oh this is some right wing talking point” and they you won’t get the best reception. But yes, the writing of Star Trek was very good back then. Too often stuff today seems to be written like it’s nudging the audience and saying “yes, aren’t we all so right!?” Like it’s masterbatory rather than something written with the intention to tell a fantastic, dramatic story that develops and/or tests the characters. Though, I do wonder if it’s harder to write these kinds of progressive star trek stories when most people are already so aware of so many issues. Probably yes to some degree but stories have been told an retelled for millennia so I don’t think we’re “out of gas” in our progressive sci-fi tank really. Idk. If you liked new trek, I’m happy for you. I just have felt the magic hasn’t been there.
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boomosaur Mar 25, 2026 +3
That's the intent though... I'm not worried about down votes, it's a good way to filter the critical thinkers from the kneejerkers. And yes you are correct, modern trek writing is more self-congratulatory like "hey didn't we do good? aren't we good people by mentioning this topic?" IMO (obviously not a popular one) trek would get back to its strong progressive and thought-provoking messaging if it actually questioned what modern trek has been doing lol, but that's just because imo we cannot start moving forward with social progress until people stop getting in their own way, and driving others the other direction.
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Dovah2600 Mar 25, 2026 +3
I'd consider myself a die hard, bleeding heart wokey liberal, and I totally agree with you. Older Treks characters had people of colour, transgender people, gay people and women all in central roles. Each of those groups were represented by highly competent, complex characters whose core stories revolved around personal conflicts that had very little to do with their race/gender etc. And if it did, it was often handled extremely well (the way they handled Dax was absolutely stellar, I can't think of a better representation of trans acceptance) New trek has formed a bit of a habit of taking those protected characteristics and making them the central, and only, character trait. It's boring and it only serves to highlight the differences in people instead of embracing commonality, which is a core concept in Star Trek since 66.
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bluesmaker Mar 25, 2026 +1
For sure. It's good to not be bothered by downvotes, but as I understand it, if you get tons of downvotes, your comment will generally get pushed down to the bottom and/or hidden until someone clicks the + to expand it. And if what you have to say is valuable, it would be good for that not to happen.
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Tube_Warmer Mar 25, 2026 -11
You'll get downvotes, and you should for using that lame buzzword. But you arent wrong. People often say that Star Trek was always woke, but they confuse the meanings. And the right wing lot coming in to coopt it after 4chan already had, just made the whole thing a nightmare. So, do everyone a favour and say what you mean. That way everyone knows what you actually mean is, back when woke was about actually raising awareness for important issues, and not just performing awareness for social media clout. Its funny, but everyone used to hate influencers. This is why 4chan started using "woke" Ironically to call out the self important influencers who used social issues to grow their subs and likes. Now everyone seemingly loves influencers, and wont hear a bad word said against them. Star Trek here, explored PTSD and challenged Nog with it, and forced him to ask the question "How can I live with this, and get back to being myself?". Nutrek wouldnt do that. It would just virtue signal trauma and define the character by it. Which is just... boring. Star Trek is about exploration, not just of space. But of humanity, identity, trauma, ethics, morality, all the good stuff. Using these things are character traits, isnt asking questions. And without the inquiry, you cant lead anyone to understanding. F*** woke, but long live woke. (See how annoying that is?)
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boomosaur Mar 25, 2026 -1
I intentionally use woke because it's important that people living in a bubble start to learn WHY it has a negative connotation now, when it once stood for something really great. While most of the time people will just be dismissive, I've had a decent amount of people later on realize how misguided they were and why they've actually been hurting the progressive movements they claim to stand for.
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Tube_Warmer Mar 25, 2026 +1
But no one knows if youre actually talking about that, or if youre just maga moaning about the lack of straight white men in the room. Thats why its important to always say what it is that wrong.
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boomosaur Mar 25, 2026 -2
That's because they are ignorant, sometimes you gotta let people stumble around in their ignorance while giving them the opportunity to adjust their thinking if they are ready.
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aeyockey Mar 25, 2026 -7
Yes but it left us with that stupid nightclub setting. Got so tired of that place. It’s thousands of years in the future can we get something other than gangster stereotype and lounge singers
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OreoSpeedwaggon Mar 25, 2026 +2
Wasn't it part of a holoprogram that Julian created? For whatever reason, it had cross-cultural appeal on DS9 and resonated with humans, Ferengi, Odo, and others, so I can understand why they left it running as a permanent fixture. And the argument could also be made that Vic functioned as a sentient photonic lifeform, so ending his program would have been cruel as well.
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ElectricPeterTork Mar 25, 2026 +4
Yes. Vic's club was the pinnacle of Bashir's love of old shit in the holosuite, which was actually producer Ira Behr's love of 60s era Vegas and the availability of James Darrin for the role. Also, the club debuted about a season before this episode, and it turned into the perfect place for Nog to escape to. The setting was only around 400 years earlier, not "thousands", and considering we still have nerds who love Ren Faires, well... it makes sense there are people in the 24th century who enjoy the nostalgia of the 20th. Nerdy fanboy headcanons say that Vic's already advanced program merged with Pup from season 1, who was still hanging around the station's computers, to make Vic the sentient being he was.
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