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Star Trek: Year One In Doubt As Strange New Worlds Sets Are Torn Down

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The prospect of a Star Trek: Year One series following Paul Wesley's James Kirk is looking increasingly unlikely after reports that the sets of Strange New Worlds are being taken down.
Star Trek: Year One In Doubt As Strange New Worlds Sets Are Torn Down
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Star Trek: Year One In Doubt As Strange New Worlds Sets Are Torn Down
The prospect of a Star Trek: Year One series following Paul Wesley's James Kirk is looking increasingly unlikely after reports that the sets of Strange New Worlds are being taken down.
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Complete_Entry Apr 9, 2026 +604
I think they're putting trek in the box again... but it's not like anyone really agrees on what trek is right now.
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DerKyhe Apr 9, 2026 +222
Show as well-ingrained into pop culture and general consciousness like Star Trek will not stay dead even if it goes away for a decade every now and then.
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Impressive-Dig-3892 Apr 9, 2026 +171
TOS, and then really only the main cast of TNG, is what is ingrained in pop culture, how many random people actually know what the plot of Star Trek is other then "boldly going, space adventure, something about progressivism"
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DerKyhe Apr 9, 2026 +73
Well, yes, those are the things everyone knows. Like everyone knew Darth Vader and "Luke I am your father" regardless of if they watched Star Wars or not before the third trilogy started the never-ending stream of new Star Wars productions. What we get might not be something everyone likes, or that it resembles the old Star Trek, but there is a zero chance that this third hiatus will be the end of the franchise.
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agent_wolfe Apr 10, 2026 +20
Wait, I just saw A New Hope today. What do you mean Darth is Luke’s father? That’s impossible Old Ben Obi Kenobi said Darth killed his father!!
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IAmAGenusAMA Apr 10, 2026 +6
Wait until you learn about his girlfriend.
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duckyirving Apr 11, 2026 +3
> That’s impossible Old Ben Obi Kenobi said Darth killed his father!! That's still true, from a certain point of view.
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angryneeson_52_ Apr 9, 2026 +9
Eh, I disagree, Star Wars is on another level compared to Star Trek in terms of how much the average person knows and is willing to watch. Star Wars has multiple billion dollar box office stints whereas the closest Star Trek ever got was Into Darkness. I know this is a discussion about TV, but I think this is a good indicator of general familiarity.
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DerKyhe Apr 9, 2026 +16
In general I agree with you, but you also need to remember that it wasn't like this always. In the early to late 90's Star Trek was huge, whereas recent Star Wars was few short run animation series and some rumors flying around that there might be new movies in the near future. The switch happened ten years later when Enterprise and TNG movies dwindled down and Star Wars had gotten new audiences with the second trilogy+animation shows.
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Werthead Apr 9, 2026 +20
**Star Trek** was a globally successful TV series with tens of millions of people watching in the US alone at its height, spread across several decades. It also had massive global reach, especially in Europe and some parts of Asia. It's much easier to quantify the global reach and success of **Star Wars**, being a series of movies, each with an identifiable box office, but **Star Trek** was potentially in front of as many eyeballs over its long period of SF dominance from the 1960s to the early 2000s. The more recent stuff, possibly not, though there's a still a h******* audience out there.
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hard-of-haring Apr 9, 2026 +4
Star Gate still gets love
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dmk_aus Apr 9, 2026 +8
The movies often have a wildly different flavour than the shows. They are "hero" (not crew) centric actions films with much less care for diplomacy, ethics, science and culture.
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Kichigai Apr 9, 2026 +3
Depends on the movie. *Khan* was totally that, but *Voyage Home* was an ensemble affair. *Undiscovered Country* was all about diplomacy, ethics and culture. After that it becomes the Data and Picard show, and the JJverse mostly falls in here except for *Into Darkness* which, yeah, wasn't all that high minded, but absolutely was about the crew.
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adamcmorrison Apr 9, 2026 +19
DS9 has a huge following
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ishtar_the_move Apr 9, 2026 +19
You will have to define "huge".
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adamcmorrison Apr 9, 2026 +8
It’s grown a ton of fan base over the last 15 years. Solidly third in popularity.
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[deleted] Apr 9, 2026 +10
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adamcmorrison Apr 9, 2026 +5
DS9 was way better than I thought it was going to be after season 1. I was iffy early but it got so good.
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sneakyCoinshot Apr 10, 2026 +2
They had a good balance of bad guy of the week episodes while maintaining a solid overarching story. It also helped that the writers respected and didn't tread on canon. Another thing I think is missing from modern trek is the B and C plot lines in episodes. Like while Sisko and officers are trying to solve some major station problem you have Rom starting a union so Quarks employees can get better wages or Jake and Nog trying to flip some excess Yamok sauce Quark had for profit that was left over from the occupation.
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Free_Stomach_6767 Apr 9, 2026 +4
It benefitted a ton from pandemic lockdown and subsequent word of mouth advertising
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Kichigai Apr 9, 2026 +10
Among Trekkies. TOS and TNG are the gateway drugs, nobody starts with DS9.
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abouttogivebirth Apr 9, 2026 +9
Doesn't really matter how many 'random people' know Star Trek, it matters how many writers know Star Trek. The general public won't know that red shirts are always the ones to die on excursions, but some guy is going to put a guy in a red shirt getting blasted in the background of his Oscar winning movie in a 100 years because all of his favourite writers have been referencing Star Trek for the last 150 years.
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GreenFox1505 Apr 9, 2026 +3
"Ever hear of Evel Knievel?" 
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Kichigai Apr 9, 2026 +3
“No, I did not watch *Star Wars*.”
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OdoWanKenobi Apr 9, 2026 +1
As evidenced by the online response to Academy, there are a shocking number of Star Trek "fans" who don't know that last thing.
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Sonichu- Apr 9, 2026 +9
The extreme reversion to Academy was because of the embarrassing dialogue. Grifters latched on to complain about “woke” after the terrible trailer dropped
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Bobby837 Apr 9, 2026 +5
Ironically it wont have fan support because they've been legally blocked from making fan productions. Severely limited anyway.
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darthboolean Apr 10, 2026 +3
(Edit, my keyboard freaked out and turned on caps lock and then sent the post when I tried to turn it off) The Dr. Who fandom survived on novels and licensed audio dramas. I wouldn't be surprised if Paramount is open to the idea of giving someone the license for mediums they don't consider competition. (Paramount might not be fine with say, a fan adaptation of the New Frontier novel on Youtube. They might care less about someone hiring the TNG cast to come to a recording session and read fanfiction for an afternoon for an audiobook/radio drama)
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BigfootsBestBud Apr 9, 2026 +2
It’s only been that way so far. There’s no real guarantee or reason that future generations are gonna be so interested in Star Trek, especially enough to be a large enough audience to justify another long running show
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hewkii2 Apr 9, 2026 +3
There’s a Star Trek Magic the Gathering set due out at end of this year so either they have something planned or they just decided to cut what they could and leave that one going.
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Lord0fHats Apr 9, 2026 +8
On the one hand, I hate Universes Beyond with the passion of a thousand Khans. On the other hand, I do want to see how Star Trek translates into MTG. On the other other hand, I struggle to see this set actually doing well but maybe I'll be wrong.
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work4work4work4work4 Apr 9, 2026 +5
You probably already have, but if not, check out the Edge of Eternities set, it's fairly new, and at least shows how WotC MTG crew did space-fantasy, and the 40k grimdark sci-fi decks worked pretty well too. I've never been more confident in their ability to do things like this well mechanically and artistically, and never less confident in their ability to do them as a whole, in a way that isn't completely fucky.
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Lord0fHats Apr 9, 2026 +3
I definitely looked back at that set when I heard about the trek set and noticed some of the mechanics like 'WARP' that definitely seem to have been added with a trek set in mind :P And yeah. Even with my hate for it, I can concede objectively I think that the Avatar, DnD, and Final Fantasy sets were actually really good sets. Balancing issues sure but MTG has been having hard balancing issues for many years now. I wouldn't blame it on these sets. But then you've got the Spiderman, TMNT, and some of the Secret Lair sets and it's just 'ugh.'
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work4work4work4work4 Apr 9, 2026 +2
> But then you've got the Spiderman, TMNT, and some of the Secret Lair sets and it's just 'ugh.' I personally actually like the TMNT sets, but I was a big fan growing up, absolutely love the art, and have had fun drafting it, but that's obviously a "limited" stand point in more ways than one. Right there will you on Spiderman, them splitting the market as a cash grab introducing tons of double names in the process for basically no reason other than greed would be a top 5 blunder for most companies, but it prolly doesn't break top 10 for them. It was like they wanted to turn off anyone already not turned off by Universes Beyond.
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zero573 Apr 10, 2026 +2
Spider-Man was trash. TMNT was pretty good although I wish they would have done an actual Legendary The Last Ronin. I feel like that was missed.
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HorizontalBob Apr 9, 2026 +45
It doesn't have to be the same but I was happy that Strange New Worlds was mostly episodic. It was nice to watch a show that wrapped up.
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Kichigai Apr 9, 2026 +8
*SNW* was also a proper ensemble show (mostly). Every character had three dimensions that got fleshed out (a miracle in only ten episodes). We got stories with all the characters (except Pelia, but that made her Guinan-like in that way). We got episodes about Una, about Uhura, about Chapel, M’Benga, La’an, and Ortega. When things happened you cared about these characters. It juggles A-plots and B-plots, like TNG and DS9 did so often. That's where *Disco* strayed from the formula, it was the Michael Burnham show. You got some character development out of Saru, and a little bit out of Hugh and Tilly, but eventually they plateau. Owo and Detmer get a few lines here and there, but that's it. The sum total of insight into Ariam was the beginning of one episode. They were mostly set dressing, like the rest of the bridge crew.
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audirt Apr 9, 2026 +9
Yeah, but I feel like they followed that model to a fault. The S2 cliff-hanger where half the crew gets captured by the Gorn started off cool, but having everything wrap up in a single S3 episode made the whole thing feel incredibly rushed IMO. The DS9/Voyager approach of a 3- or 4-part episode would have served that story a lot better.
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asoap Apr 10, 2026 +5
DS9 / Voyager had like 20+ episodes a season. Modern Trek gets like 8-10 episodes. All of the old rules are out of the window and people need to stop this comparison in the modern age.
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Ripley_LV_426 Apr 9, 2026 +6
Trek is struggling in the modern television environment. It's golden age was just episodic 20 episode seasons produced yearly, with a very of it's era style of acting and production. I honestly can't even think of any popular episodic series that isn't comedy or network.
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KtaadnRota Apr 9, 2026 +9
They never even made these shows available on a popular streaming service. They just used their own in-house streaming service that most people don't have and were never going to bother to get. Golden age Star Trek was broadcast on network TV in the era when everyone was watching network TV. They didn't present it to an audience, they demanded the audience come begging for it instead.
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zoobrix Apr 9, 2026 +76
Long term fans are well aware what trek is, it's Kurtzman and company that don't know what it is.
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EmperorOfNipples Apr 9, 2026 +9
Thing is Kurtzman has made some good episodes, but tends to miss as much as he hits. I think a couple of years with perhaps an animated show to keep things on life support then come back with a new show runner like Tawny Newsome.
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TheForeverUnbanned Apr 9, 2026 +3
Man back in the day “long term” Trek “fans” had real nasty shit to say about Sisko and Janeway. The only real constant in the franchise is the toxicity of people who claim that the new stuff sucks in every era. 
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zoobrix Apr 9, 2026 +5
While there are always people that will complain about anything in terms of world building the older set of Star Trek franchises felt like they shared a common world. New Star Trek often feels like a totally different vibe shoved into a Star Trek sock. Discovery and Academy, ignoring the symbology and few direct links they put in, could all be called something else that's nothing to do with trek and you would never make the connection. I don't remember anyone in the 90s ever saying that about any of the shows then. Plus a lot of the complaining about Sisko and Janeway was down to racism and misogyny about them being in charge, while those are still problems today of course it was even more common in the 90s. But I don't recall anyone ever saying about DS9 or Voyager "I don't know what this is supposed to be, have these people seen Star Trek? Do they understand what makes it good?" which is what I've heard so many people say, online and in person, about the new set of shows.
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Mddcat04 Apr 9, 2026 +12
People absolutely said that about DS9. “They’re just going to sit there on a space station, don’t they know Star Trek is about exploration? Was a constant early criticism.”
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Kichigai Apr 9, 2026 +5
Absolutely, I was one of them. Then again I was like 10 or something when it came out. The whole provisional government and coup plots went *way* over my head. I was totally hyped for *Voyager* though.
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zoobrix Apr 9, 2026 +6
But the tone and exploration of high minded ideals were not the focus of the criticism, and if you watched an episode of DS9 it still felt like trek. Can you say that about Discovery let alone Academy? The criticism about a lot of the trek today is the world itself doesn't seem to resemble the Star Trek universe at all, concerns about the exploration aspect of being on a space station were not the same thing. Also after a couple seasons once DS9 found it's stride those criticisms really died down, whereas with the Discovery saying it didn't feel like a trek show only got louder over time.
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InnocentTailor Apr 9, 2026 +5
Eh. Even long time fans aren't unified on what Trek is. See the still contentious reputation of Deep Space Nine as an example - some holding it as the finest part of the franchise and others seeing it as a betrayal of Roddenberry's optimistic vision of the future. I know folks who see Sisko as either the greatest example of pragmatism in Starfleet or a villain who should be locked up for war crimes. [It's why Trekkies sequester Deep Space Nine fans in their own corner - the so-called Niners.](https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/so-were-called-niners.222703/)
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br0b1wan Apr 9, 2026 +24
It's for the best. They should never have given the franchise over to JJ Abrams and told him to reboot it. Trek needed some time to find its footing after Enterprise ended. Take a bunch of years off, and then maybe come up with a road map to shift the story 100 years into the future like TNG did with TOS. New crew, new Federation, new Starfleet, little or no connection with the TNG/DS9/VOY era. Going back to the 23rd century just opens the door for weird retcons that don't fit anything. Also, I've mentioned it here before, but the new streaming model of 8 episodes (if you're lucky) every other year doesn't work for Trek. Classic Trek was so good because it thrived on the 22-episode seasons where you could see the crew face trials that tested the limits of their training and watched as they grew together. You won't get that with 8 episode seasons. If Trek wants to move forward, it has to figure that out. Edit: also, while this streaming era means much higher production values (and a higher budget), Trek always thrived because it was limited by its budget and had to rely on excellent storytelling. When you don't have to rely on that, this is what you get. Edit 2: Alex Kurtzman needs to go. Like, last month. He has no idea what Trek is supposed to be and as a result he completely boned the IP.
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Bluemajere Apr 10, 2026 +4
Shout-out the casting director of new trek movies though, the casting was peak, even though the movies themselves were fairly whelming
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InnocentTailor Apr 9, 2026 +10
When have they agreed? The Trekkie fandom is diverse and contentious to the point that everybody has their own perceptions on what is good and bad. In my opinion, I'm waiting until con season to see how the franchise is faring - whether they're going to announce new things, parrot the stuff we already know, or, at the worst, skip the festivities entirely.
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Complete_Entry Apr 9, 2026 +6
At least Trekkie won, always found trekker weirdly disrespectful, couldn't even articulate why. Trekkie sounds aspirational.
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southernfirefly13 Apr 9, 2026 +48
Lower Decks seems to be the only modern Trek show that got it right.
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Kichigai Apr 10, 2026 +4
I'd argue SNW was hitting the right tones until it kinda veered into every episode being the *strange* episode. The secret sauce is to make us care about a variety, if not all, the characters. Lower Decks hit us fast with that, between Boims and Mariner, then started to cut us in on Rutherford, Tendi, Freeman, Shaxs, ~~Random~~ *Ransom* and T’Anna. Even T’Lynn feels integrated.
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InnocentTailor Apr 9, 2026 +8
Eh. My personal favorites of Kurtzman Trek is Lower Decks, Prodigy, and Picard Season 3. I have a respect for Strange New Worlds as well, but I'm not really a fan of the TOS era of the franchise. I'm still very much a Berman Trek person situated in the grittier eras of Deep Space Nine and Voyager.
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Shawnj2 Apr 9, 2026 +14
Picard Season 3 is very fun as a TNG fan but it’s not actually a good season of TV. SNW is sometimes good, lower decks and prodigy are consistently good.
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mr_bots Apr 10, 2026 +7
PIC 3 had a terrible story and was all over the place but those member berries were just too much for some to see through. “It’s evolved changelings! Jk, it’s the borg again.” Plus it should have been a decommissioning ceremony for the E and launch of the F, not a decommissioning of the F and a who knows what happened to the E off screen while the Titan is forced to be the G. Though, it was good to see the crew and the D again.
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Moontoya Apr 9, 2026 +13
The Orville* too (,*yes I know it's not official star trek but you can't tell me it's not trek in it's DNA)
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turkeygiant Apr 9, 2026 +5
Personally I think people overhype The Orville, it had its moments for sure, but quality wise I think it was almost certainly inferior to recent Trek even compared to problematic shows like Discovery. But it's a good contrarian meme to say that the Family Guy dude did Trek better.
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DoctorDrangle Apr 9, 2026 +7
Hard disagree. Discovery was ass.
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DacStreetsDacAlright Apr 9, 2026 +4
I reckon we'll see a couple of movies again before we see another show.
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Complete_Entry Apr 9, 2026 +5
Someone is flat out stalling the movies and has done so since beyond. Pine was pretty diplomatic about it, but said his phone is not ringing.
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DacStreetsDacAlright Apr 9, 2026 +2
I didn't say we'd get Pine movies, I said we'd get new Star Trek movies. Complete fresh starts anew. Hopefully without Kirk, Spock and even Picard and Data. Just new people doing Star Trek things.
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in_the_blind Apr 10, 2026 +3
That didn't work out with Star Wars too well. People want their characters.
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Enchelion Apr 9, 2026 +4
Reporting has also been they want to consolidate filming locations back to Paramount studio, and SNW was all done in Canada.
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freexanarchy Apr 9, 2026 +11
Paramount and cbs getting rid of anything woke. That box might be sealed pretty tightly.
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m_Pony Apr 9, 2026 +7
my money's on this.
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Borange_Corange Apr 9, 2026 +2
I envy Trek fans. I'd pay Disney to put Star Wars in a box for a long, long time.
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[deleted] Apr 9, 2026 +6
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t4boo Apr 9, 2026 +3
I still can’t believe they set a season of one of the shows in 2024(?) LA lmao
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nagrom7 Apr 10, 2026 +2
The worst part of that is we already knew what 2024 America looked like in Trek via a DS9 2 parter in the 90s. That was supposed to be the time of sanctuary districts and the Bell Riots, but instead it was just "modern day" with an overt message about immigration policy. I think there was a passing mention of a sanctuary district, but that's it.
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Shoot_from_the_Quip Apr 9, 2026 +62
To be fair, we strike sets and store them all the time, even for shows that aren't cancelled. Fold & Hold so the stage is open for other uses (and not being rented to just sit there with an unused set for 6 or more months) is common. Whether that is happening here I have no idea, but we did this all the time for shows. Sometimes we even moved to different studio locations across town and rebuilt them there. Nature of the business.
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lavenk7 Apr 9, 2026 +5
It’s not. Apparently it’s going straight to trash because they have 3 months to vacate.
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Shoot_from_the_Quip Apr 10, 2026 +8
3 months? Did they say it was going into the trash? Because I've seen massive sets struck for a move in weeks. They come down a lot faster than they go up.
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Flimsy_Big7991 Apr 10, 2026 +2
Reportedly some pieces are being auctioned off. So, either way it seems like they're done with it.
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KnowledgeIsDangerous Apr 9, 2026 +193
As a life long Star Trek fan, I would be happy if the writers room banned the names kirk and spock. Give us new characters. No more prequels, no more backstory. New f****** characters only. Pretty please.
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ElectricPeterTork Apr 9, 2026 +92
And any name from The Next Generation, as well. No more Soongs. No more Data. No more Picard. Enough with sodomizing the bones of TOS and TNG. No more prequels. No more Star Trek Babies. No more Jon Voight's ballsack. That's what they needed to do in 2001. It's what they needed to do in 2009. It's what they needed to do in 2017. It's what's needed now. If all they have is Memberries, they ain't got nothing.
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Sonichu- Apr 9, 2026 +47
PLEASE They've taken a big universe and made it feel microscopic because it all links back to the same 6 people
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MeiNeedsMoreBuffs Apr 10, 2026 +6
This is one of the reasons Lower Decks is so successful, because it actually feels like they're expanding the universe and showing us new things that we've never seen before
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deafpoet Apr 10, 2026 +7
It's also just formatted like a Star Trek show, aside from being a comedy. Lightly serialized. It's DS9 with d*** jokes, which is fine by me.
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adamtnewman Apr 9, 2026 +16
Member when we thought Voyager and Enterprise were bad? Now I consider both shows to be much better than every nutrek. We just didn't know how good we had it back then.
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cjinct Apr 10, 2026 +6
> Member when we thought Voyager and Enterprise were bad? I always liked Voyager, became my second fave (after TOS) once 7 of 9 showed up! Never could get into Enterprise tho
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Big__Pierre Apr 10, 2026 +3
I love Enterprise, low tek trek, only can go warp 1.4 in the beginning - marine detachment on board to serve as security, so cool.
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NachoNutritious Apr 9, 2026 +57
* No time travel * No referencing prior characters from the TOS or TNG eras * No time travel * No stories revisiting the mirror universe * No time travel * Set it 80+ years after the TNG era. No characters who remember the TNG era in living memory * **NO F****** TIME TRAVEL** There. Have a writer’s room start with that.
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stealth1236 Apr 9, 2026 +14
I think this is a great start! The only thing I think needs to be added is "no time travel" but aside from that great list!
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AidilAfham42 Apr 10, 2026 +10
No Time Travel? That’s like saying “No Holodeck accident” episodes.
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Pkolt Apr 11, 2026 +3
The only time travel they can do is the kind that goes to the historical past and they prevent aliens from altering history. Not the kind where they use it as a tool to escape responsibility for maintaining the setting's internal logic and continuity.
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Pkolt Apr 11, 2026 +3
Or like time loops and shit. Those are great. Remember that episode where Frasier shows up at the end?
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JJMcGee83 Apr 10, 2026 +6
I'd like to double down on no mirror universe.
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Explosion2 Apr 10, 2026 +8
The time travel episodes are some of my favorites though!
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NachoNutritious Apr 10, 2026 +5
The issue is they grossly overused time travel in every Trek project over the past 15 years. Just like Roddenberry put a moratorium on using Vulkans and other TOS stuff in TNG to force the writers to go in new directions and the restrictions were only loosened once the show was established, stuff like time travel needs to be put in the freezer at first to force the new writers to do new stuff.
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Sonichu- Apr 9, 2026 +10
Maybe we can have a little time travel to retcon Discovery and The Burn, as a treat
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Rulother Apr 10, 2026 +2
This is one of the reasons that made ds9 so good. It didn't solely rely on tng or tos, sure there cameos.
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HoneyReasonable9316 Apr 9, 2026 +20
Be kinda nice if Star Trek went back to leaning into science and not just the personality drama. Make it a more pragmatic style crew like TOS, where their personality only comes out a bit here and there. The weekly objective is the plot, and the crew is what moves the plot along. I miss that sort of stuff more than the more psychoanalysis of modern trek.
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Sonichu- Apr 9, 2026 +79
Good. End the Kurtzman era
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falkkor Apr 9, 2026 +27
His mentor JJ Abrams has slowly been dropped into the shitter I hope Kurtzman is next
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TldrDev Apr 9, 2026 +11
I loved TNG. I still watch it. DS9, loved it. I watched the JJ Abrams movies and hated them. Like actively hated it. Now all the new series just feel like those movies. They are action scenes and visual effects. They turned star trek into a super hero franchise with prequels and origin stories and everything, and im definitely not there for it. The Orville, strange new worlds, and Lower Decks are the only decent star trek shows.
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SlendyIsBehindYou Apr 10, 2026 +3
I started The Orville almost begrudgingly, and it somehow became my favorite Star Trek sequel we never got. It's not perfect, but it fuckin NAILS the vibe
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BlackSpinedPlinketto Apr 10, 2026 +2
Good thankyou for saying this. I’m sick of the ‘oh but it’s a good movie, just not a good *Star Trek* movie’ bullshit opinion that people repeat. If it’s not good at Star Trek then it’s a bad movie that shits in the original cast and what they achieved. It’s a parody not real Star Trek and I refuse to accept even a good impression of TOS be accepted as real TOS, even if it’s a good impression of the cast.
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ElectricPeterTork Apr 9, 2026 +5
*Kurtzman Error
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monkey314 Apr 9, 2026 +80
Im increasingly liking that. It's a show about the future. stop digging into its past.
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sfarx Apr 9, 2026 +35
But, the future they showed us in Discovery kinda sucked. Can we get a different future?
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monkey314 Apr 9, 2026 +18
yeah they burned the future bridge with that hopefully whoever takes over with re-establish a prime timeline. IE after :voyager
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Muadibased Apr 10, 2026 +2
Even Voyager went to far with that. The used time travel to f****** 'solve' the end of the show and established that just a few decades into the future time travel technology was viable.
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Android1822 Apr 9, 2026 +8
This is why I refuse to accept kurtzman era star trek as cannon. This is some weird alt timeline.
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cthulhusevski Apr 9, 2026 +10
They kinda screwed up the future in Discovery though 😭
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Garden-Mirror Apr 9, 2026 +212
Good, we don't need yet another show with Kirk and Spock, etc. In fact, with the way things are going, maybe its best if the franchise goes on a long break. Just put Star Trek on ice for a while, and give people a chance to miss it. Then someday bring in a brand new creative team (no Kurtzman).
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viscosity-breakdown Apr 9, 2026 +73
I'd love to see Star Trek On Ice.
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Main-Bandicoot6477 Apr 9, 2026 +29
I am not a merry man! *Worf tries to skate away and falls*
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Kind-Shallot3603 Apr 9, 2026 +7
No even better: blue barrels roll at him
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banditloaf Apr 9, 2026 +7
(monkeys paw curls) https://youtu.be/np6jJ7CaLJc
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Complete_Entry Apr 9, 2026 +8
Andorians rated Star Trek on ice as "Shit" One reviewer saying "There was not even a simulated Ushaan at all in this garbage, they danced around on perfectly fine blades and SANG? We should declare war."
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sim21521 Apr 9, 2026 +54
I don't really know why they feel the need to bring back the old series when it's already been proven with TNG and DS9 that you can tell other good in universe stories using complete new cast of characters. People care more about the genuine world of Trek over the characters we already know.
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GingerSoulEater41 Apr 9, 2026 +55
It's really hard to get people to care about characters they will see maybe 8 hours every year. The old TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT era had like 22-26 eps a season to get to know the characters.
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pm_me_your_trebuchet Apr 9, 2026 +16
pretty much every other good show does exactly this. problem is star trek shows aren't good.
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Enchelion Apr 9, 2026 +6
How many movies manage exactly that in 2 or less hours? The runtime is not that big a deal.
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Gayspider Apr 9, 2026 +4
...except a knight of the seven kingdoms recently managed to do exactly that in 6 episodes that are barely 30 minutes long each. maybe if the star trek shows had even remotely decent writing, somewhere above the CW young adult tier utter garbage where everyone is crying and science is treated like a joke where you can just string some random vaguely scientific sounding words into a sentance to solve problems then it would also get more than the allegedly 400,000 viewers (total) that starfleet academy got.
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EchoWhiskyBravo Apr 9, 2026 +5
I would be ok if we get the guy from Picard Season 3 and the guys from Lower Decks on a show that is set after Picard S3 (with a whole new cast and crew).
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JeSuisOmbre Apr 9, 2026 +2
The only StarTrek I've seen is the JJ Abrams movies. I'm starting to watch TOS right now and I get why people love the series. The world plays so much better when the stakes aren't high. The dramas and tragedies are people sized.
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Bostonterrierpug Apr 9, 2026 +58
I just want a Morn, Quark and Garak show kind of like Space Ghost coast to Coast.
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pizoisoned Apr 9, 2026 +6
I read this as Coast to Coast AM radio, and frankly I don’t hate that either.
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TheInfinityOfThought Apr 10, 2026 +6
You’d never get Morn to shut up. He’s always talking nonstop, he’d drown out Quark and Garak.
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ColoOddball Apr 9, 2026 +9
I don’t hate this idea
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RaynerHBK Apr 9, 2026 +7
Sir, I’d like to send you money. How can I send you money for this?
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AidilAfham42 Apr 10, 2026 +2
Pay in gold pressed latinum
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Shortsleevedpant Apr 9, 2026 +3
Quark hosts Garak banters and Morn laughs. I’d watch the hell out of that
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BladedDingo Apr 9, 2026 +28
good. i don't want a TOS re-boot or prequel that relies on legacy characters. I want 90's Trek back. Competence p*** where the crew is professional, good at their jobs and explore strange new worlds. I want a ship with sets that follow the design language of the previous shows, but updated for a modern audience. Picard Season 3 was 90% of the way there with the design of the Titan/Ent-G interiors. Just tone down the lenseflares and ever single surface being shiny and metalic. I want a brand new crew with a brand new ship with important, but not galaxy ending stakes. I want something that doesn't cater to nostalgia by bringing back races and characters from previous shows and instead of building something new, just retreads old stories. I wouldn't mind a proper follow-up to Enterprise focusing on a new ship/crew during the Romulan War leading to the formation of the Federation, or a series set in the cold-war era between TOS and TNG, or a series post-picard that focuses on the aftermath of the Borg attack where the ship/crew is tackling diplomatic disputes, border conflicts and piracy on the frontier as Starfleet replenishes their ranks from all the junior officers who died in the Borg Attack and the chaos that would have spread across the fleet. SOOOOO many places a new series could go, we don't need to re-do TOS.
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Cakebeforedeath Apr 9, 2026 +11
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter
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fre-ddo Apr 10, 2026 +3
The aftermath of the Dominian war would be great, see the post war conflicts, spying and diplomacy of Cardassia, the Federation, Bajor etc.
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qlurp Apr 9, 2026 +16
It’s dead, Jim. 
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mashley503 Apr 9, 2026 +7
Best thing Star Trek could do now is finally remaster DS9.
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911freeze Apr 10, 2026 +9
Such a fall from grace…TNG, Voyager, DS9…are all such classics.
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moal09 Apr 9, 2026 +14
They kept trying to make Trek for non Trek fans, and it kept bombing, and their conclusion seems to be that no one wants Trek. Amazing.
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ElectricPeterTork Apr 9, 2026 +11
And the fans of Kurtztrek enable this thinking. You can see 'em here in this very thread. They'll carry water and say things like "You oldheads just hate everything new because it's not what you watched last century! Just go watch reruns, Boomer, that's all you want anyway! It's not the 1900s anymore!" No, I want a goddamned show that feels like Star Trek. I enjoyed The Orville, because for all the fart jokes and stupidity and casting himself as the Captain, Seth MacFarlane gets Star Trek. I don't want Star Wars Trek. I don't want whatever show these people who clearly want to work on another property but could only get this gig so they're going to do that show and grudgingly paint a patina of Trek IP elements over it because they have to want to do. I want a f****** Star Trek show. Planets of the week. Thinly veiled stories about current issues on those planets of the week. Competency p***. A crew that gets along. A command structure that isn't overtly evil. And every season isn't about saving the universe *again*. Oh, and no f****** prequels. That's it. Is that too much to ask? Apparently it is, because in 10 years, they haven't done it.
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The_Brian Apr 13, 2026 +3
> "You oldheads just hate everything new because it's not what you watched last century! Just go watch reruns, Boomer, that's all you want anyway! It's not the 1900s anymore!" Its the most infuriating part about discussing anything anymore, not just Star Trek. I fully get a gross group of vultures latch onto anything they can to perpetuate their crusade in the culture wars, but that doesn't mean everyone does. Getting called a misogynist or an incel because I think Burnham was a dog shit written character is ridiculous. Like, Old Trek was all about asking philosophical questions and letting the characters you've grown to love and enjoy navigate them. That meant sometimes Sisko was the hero, and other times he was the antagonist. I'm also not one who really takes issue with the scale/saving the universe style writing, but Jesus **every** story in modern Trek is how the Universe is about to end. Its exhausting. Modern Trek is just a few chosen characters who can never be wrong, can seemingly never have real faults. They must always be morally superior and must tell everyone else how wrong they are while they're saving the Universe for the 27th time this week. Its almost a complete inversion of what made Trek so interesting.
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INFn7 Apr 9, 2026 +14
I enjoyed SNW. It was light years better than Disco even if it has had a few bad eps. Was not looking forward to a potential Year One with Paul Wesley as Kirk even if it meant a new Trek show. They need to forget the post-Discovery era and write it off as an alternate universe.
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queefwellington3 Apr 9, 2026 +7
Stop making pablum Star Trek
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R97R Apr 9, 2026 +6
As annoying as it is to constantly reboot stuff, “Year One” felt like more of a last-ditch attempt to continue *Strange New Worlds*, which I would’ve been on board with, if I’m honest. That was a show I more or less ignored when it first came out by assuming it was just nostalgia bait, but the good thing about “episodic” Trek imo is that they can tell good original stories with that kind of set-up too. On the other hand, the third season of SNW wasn’t really up to the same standard as the first two, and while the showrunners have acknowledged this and claimed they were working to remedy those issues with the show’s final two seasons, we’ll have to wait and see if they manage it. Funnily enough, one of the bigger criticisms of the third season is that it focuses a bit too much on Kirk, at the expense of the show’s “original” cast (there’s only one “Kirk episode”, but he has a smaller role in a couple of others). Still, it’s generally seen as a *significantly* better than the two Kurtzman-run shows or *Picard*, an opinion I’d personally agree with. I’m just hoping they’ll manage to end it on a satisfying note, and hopefully whenever they get around to making another show they’ll go for a similar format instead of the one the other live-action shows did.
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SpikeRosered Apr 9, 2026 +5
I just want professionalism and wisdom p***. That's what Star Trek is to me.
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fitzysbuna Apr 9, 2026 +5
cancel everything Star Trek for 20 years and reboot it !
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boomosaur Apr 9, 2026 +51
I'd rather there be no star trek, than bad star trek.
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BeerGogglesFTW Apr 9, 2026 +47
I disagree with the understanding that they won't be making just bad Star Trek. From what I learned from Star Wars and MCU making too much content, I'm ok with ignoring the content I don't like and enjoying the content I do. "Disney ruined Star Wars when they made X, Y, and Z" ...I simply don't care about X, Y, and Z, so I ignore them. I don't need to dwell on them. Disney also gave us Rogue One, Andor, Mandalorian, and the final season of the Clone Wars. I wouldn't want to miss out on these series because some fans say "They ruined Star Wars with..." I'll take that trade. If they need to make series like Starfleet Academy, but we also get more series like Strange New Worlds, I'll take that trade too.
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TheSaltyStrangler Apr 9, 2026 +15
Holy shit, a sane and balanced take
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InnocentTailor Apr 9, 2026 +7
That is the nice thing about this franchise, to be frank - there are many places to hide and reside. If you don't like the far future, then you can reside in the Berman Trek era. If you don't care for the sequel trilogy, romp around in the original trilogy period. I too ignore content I don't like and embrace what I enjoy. There is no strict edict that deems you have to consume everything in order to be a fan.
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oldscotch Apr 9, 2026 +10
Strange New Worlds isn't on the same level as Andor, it only looks good by comparison to Discovery. And season 3 did not help its case at all. Accepting bad shows as a necessary evil means the IP gets watered down and oversaturated. OK, we got Andor but we've also increased audience fatigue and used a lot of production costs for a bad return meaning we're less likely to see new investment. Just do one thing at a time and do it well. We don't need five Star Trek shows at once, we just need one good one.
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Ripley_LV_426 Apr 9, 2026 +10
Most Strange New World episodes are good, Lower Decks was great, Prodigy is apparently very popular, and even Academy has several interesting episodes. People are drastically overstating how bad modern Trek is. Y'all act like it's just section 31 over and over.
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Lyceus_ Apr 9, 2026 +5
I'm pretty sure the recent series will be seen on a much better light in a few years. Just like Enterprise was said to be "not Star Trek" when it aired (and it was heavily criticized for the *theme song* of all things) and now it is much better regarded.
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SirWobblyOfSausage Apr 9, 2026 +5
Was was DS9. I remember when it came out and people were pissed. I didn't get it at the start, it's as so dark, but kept with it because it's Trek. It's one of best series ever made.
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boomosaur Apr 9, 2026 +4
It's not very popular.. which is why these shows are getting canned lol.
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MoreGaghPlease Apr 9, 2026 +10
If you want there to be some good Star Trek you must accept some bad Star Trek. An essential element of Trek fandom is having views on the wheat and the chaff. This has always been the case. I love TNG, I’ve basically watched it on a loop for the past 20 years. But let’s be honest, in the first 50 episodes of that show, there are maybe 10 good episodes. Of the 80 episodes of TOS easily 30 are terrible — mostly in the third season, but even a few in the famed and beloved season 1 (eg Miri, The Alternative Factor). I like DS9 and Voyager but both are shows that in their day had and still today have serious detractors. And personally I’ve never had Faith of the Heart - not even for the fourth season even though I can geek out on some of the worldbuilding. I think a decade from now when we look back on the 2017-2026 era of Trek, it’s going to look a lot like other parts of the franchise. Lower Decks will be a fan favourite forever, its following will grow over time. Strange New Worlds will be remembered fondly for its return to the classic format. I think some parts of it that are too trendy will seem really cringe (eg the musical episode) but it’ll stand out as a return to form. The further you get from a show, the more the highlight best episodes stand out of the crowd and the high points of season 1 and 2 will shine. Picard will be a mixed bag but season 3 will be remembered well. I think of season 3 as like a redo of the movies. Disco and Academy will have niche fans but continue to be criticized. I think the serialized nature of Disco will make it hard to be remembered well because it has so few individual stand-out episodes but also doesn’t stand well as a whole. The cringey dialog will get even worse with age, yum yum. But Disco has some cool concepts that will keep resonating with a subset of fans for a long time - like even the people who dislike the show overall will say, ‘oh but I like Saru in it’ or ‘the time travel Mudd episode was good’. Section 31 will replace Star Trek V as the ‘holy f*** this is bad how did this get made’. It will be an insider lark, like only REAL Trek fans know about that train wreck and how bad it is. Me and the two other people who watched Prodigy will continue to think it was good and try to get a fourth person to watch it, to no avail. Set your calendars for 2036 and come back to this comment, I feel pretty strongly about these predictions.
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Packolypse Apr 9, 2026 +6
This. Discovery was bad all around. SNW for me a spiritual successor to the OG ST. The franchise needs longer seasons to develop characters and the environment around them. You can’t do this in 8 episodes.
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Ash_Killem Apr 9, 2026 +18
I like SNW and would have been fine with Year One. The stain of Discovery is still on that show though. I just want them to do a regular mid production post Voyager show. It really shouldn’t be that hard.
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Lecterr Apr 9, 2026 +6
For real. Allocate half the effects budget for better writers, don’t rush the story, and for the love of god, if anyone suggests making an episode a musical or with puppets, please send them straight to jail.
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DoctorDrangle Apr 10, 2026 +2
Reminds me of how stargate did it where they were effectively make fun of how series do shit like that. It was episode 200
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dusto_man Apr 9, 2026 +17
We want Legacy!
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sgthombre Apr 9, 2026 +43
They tore down the Titan/Enterprise-G sets before they even started promoting Picard season 3. Paramount never had any intention of making that show.
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InnocentTailor Apr 9, 2026 +6
I don't think Matalas had any interest in the project as well. They were social media musings, not a serious pitch. ...but yeah. They sold those props via groups like Propstore, which range from the various uniforms to even the Titan A's chairs. Besides a mishmash of stuff they have in archives, the only big item that still remains from that production is the rebuilt Enterprise D bridge, which appeared at places like Universal Studio's Fan Fest.
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EmperorOfNipples Apr 9, 2026 +6
I'd be interested in a mid 25th century show. Move things 60 years on from Picard and go from there. I'd also be interested in a late 22nd century show. Early Federation. In both cases new crews, new ships with some callback.
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Kind-Shallot3603 Apr 9, 2026 +2
Right? Not to mention they filmed it in 2021.
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dravenonred Apr 9, 2026 +8
Ideas I wouldn't hate: * Lt Shaw navigates the Dominion War with survivor's guilt and one hell of a chip on his shoulder * Post-burn pockets of federation survivalism, like *Voyager* meets *Battlestar Galactica* * Dominion/Borg War (the un-infitrate-able vs the un-assimilate-able) * Ferengi hybrid economy after Rom joins the Federation There's still SO MUCH to work with.
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AlwaysHappy4Kitties Apr 9, 2026 +3
That first thing would make me happy, More Todd Stashwick on my tv. Count me in Already loved him in 12monkeys ( tv show) that Matalas showrunned
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SudoDarkKnight Apr 9, 2026 +5
no thanks
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JaracRassen77 Apr 9, 2026 +3
Maybe the issue is that there is *too much Trek* at once? Oversaturation with "meh" shows, where you have to dig for the good ones might be weighing on people. They should go for a quality over quantity method, next time. I'm just taking a guess here.
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oldscotch Apr 10, 2026 +3
It's quite telling that a Star Trek show is likely cancelled before it even happens and the fans are relieved.
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thegloriousporpoise Apr 9, 2026 +5
I was hoping the potential new show would time jump a little and give us the stories between the end of TOS and the first movie. But year one would have been good too. I wish so many things for Star Trek. Longer seasons. More exploring new worlds and meeting new civilizations.
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Android1822 Apr 9, 2026 +4
Good? I do not want Kurtzman to work on anything Star Trek related. I would rather the IP die than have another STA be made. If they finally let him go and get someone competent who respects the source material, fans, and retcons out kurtzman era star trek, then we can try again.
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dudreddit Apr 9, 2026 +10
I wonder how much of this is related to the poor decisions made regarding Star Trek Academy. It's like someone was trying to destroy the ST universe ...
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Fifteen_inches Apr 10, 2026 +5
I think everyone needs a break of Star Trek. Let’s just not do Star Trek for abit.
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keving87 Apr 9, 2026 +2
I figured when everything was cancelled or ending they would focus on movies again instead.
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WarpNacelle6295 Apr 9, 2026 +2
Probably for the best. I don’t want Star Trek circling around what was already done instead of doing new things with new characters.
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Heradite Apr 9, 2026 +2
I once asked someone I know who works in the studio system why shows tear down sets even when they have been renewed. Turns out it's cheaper to rebuild them than to keep a set up for a long period of time.
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seamus_quigley Apr 9, 2026 +2
Paramount: What if Star Trek, but it's *not* like Star Trek? Everyone else: Or... what if Star Trek, but it **is** like Star Trek? Paramount: You mean, like, a different prequel? Everyone else: ... Paramount: ... Everyone else: F***.
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WhosGuardingHades Apr 9, 2026 +2
Nothing against him but he’s easily the worst casting in SNW as Kirk for me, really he should be playing D*** York in a Bewitched reboot, hopefully he gets the chance to now.
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Hoger Apr 10, 2026 +2
A lot of Trek fans could do with a dose of Dan Harmon at the moment: "More importantly, it has to be joyful, effortless, fun. TV defeats its own purpose when it's pushing an agenda, or trying to defeat other TV or being proud or ashamed of itself for existing. It's TV, it's comfort. It's a friend you've known so well, and for so long you just let it be with you. And it needs to be okay for it to have a bad day, or phone in a day. And it needs to be okay for it to get on a boat with Levar Burton and never come back. Because eventually, it all will."
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kinisonkhan Apr 10, 2026 +2
They might as well sell the rights to Netflix as Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds were great, absolute hit with fans, but still canceled. Doesn't look like they're going to continue with the Made for Streaming Trek movies as Section 31 was really really bad. They ditched Jar Jar Abrams and Bad Robot for movies, going in a new direction, but I wouldn't be surprised if they canceled that project as well.
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NewCaprica35 Apr 10, 2026 +2
Please let this franchise rest in peace. It became so bad even the Batman & Robin movie is looking at it with pity.
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ContinuumGuy Apr 11, 2026 +2
Somebody said I think even before the sale to Skydance, much less the WB shit, that barring a breakout like the first season of SNW where it was a top 10 streaming show that everything probably was going to end at or shortly after Kurtzman's deal ended, simply because that's just not how Hollywood works anymore unless if the entire franchise is a different studio in the hierarchy like with Marvel or you are a gigantic one-man ball of hit-after-hit production like Sheridan or Shonda Rhimes. I guess they were right.
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Dallywack3r Apr 9, 2026 +7
Nobody is watching these show and they cost a fortune to make.
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Android1822 Apr 9, 2026 +3
What happens when you make a show for the modern audience instead of fans of the IP.
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Illustrious-Peace989 Apr 9, 2026 +5
There was never anything credible that indicated this show was in the pipeline at all
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MrFiendish Apr 9, 2026 +3
I would rather have no star trek than the shows they’re putting out now. And that goes for Lower Decks as well. It’s not that funny of a show.
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Jynirax Apr 9, 2026 +3
Tear it down. Fire these hacks. Come back again one day with some real science fiction writers and someone with an IQ above room temperature on the production team.
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sheJaMyMorant Apr 9, 2026 +12
is this a bad thing?
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nobdy89 Apr 9, 2026 +17
Its a shame the cast and crew lost out on the work, but I have nearly zero interest in a young kirk show.
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SA_22C Apr 9, 2026 +6
I'd have more interest if they'd done a better job casting Kirk. Paul Wesley isn't right in the role, at all.
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MoreGaghPlease Apr 9, 2026 +3
I think he’s great. One of the funny things about Kirk in TOS is that he’s way more of a blank slate than people remember. A lot of the popular conceptions of Kirk are formed based on the movies which are themselves influenced by the way Kirk was immortalized in pop culture when Trek was syndicating in the 70s and 80s. The TOS Kirk was so different, at least in a lot of great episodes. ‘A stack of book with legs’. I think Wesley captures that well and captures some of the TOS Kirk without doing a Shatner impression.
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SA_22C Apr 9, 2026 +4
I've been watching a ton of TOS lately and am well acquainted with the diverging Kirk character in the films vs the show. I still don't like Wesley, he lacks the charisma that Shatner brought to the role.
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Kind-Shallot3603 Apr 9, 2026 +3
Nope. Dodged a bullet here
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BeerGogglesFTW Apr 9, 2026 +13
Probably. Strange New Worlds is great (imo). If this was to be a spin-off/sequel series in the same vein as Strange New Worlds.. Yeah, I think it would be a shame to miss out on the series. Or at least giving it a chance.
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Kind-Shallot3603 Apr 9, 2026 +4
Why are you all obsessed with us giving these shit shows "a chance"??? We have seen the quality Secret hideout puts out with Disco and Picard. I'm not giving them 5 chances to get it right and since SFA was canceled and only had 400k viewers I know I'm not alone in my opinion.
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Sonichu- Apr 9, 2026 +3
Kurtzman has had enough chances
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jakreth Apr 9, 2026 +2
Good, make something new and respecting the spirit and quality of the first 2 series.
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Kruse Apr 9, 2026 +9
Honestly hard to tell which franchise has been driven into the ground the hardest--Star Trek or Star Wars.
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sgthombre Apr 9, 2026 +21
Trek by a mile, by basically every metric, at the very least in terms of cultural impact. Your mom knows who Baby Yoda is. Your mom does not know who Michael Burnham is.
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InnocentTailor Apr 9, 2026 +6
Does your mom know Andor or even Darth Maul though? When it comes to Star Trek, folks know Kirk and Picard - both features of the current Kurtzman regime. Both franchises have their known and niche corners.
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SA_22C Apr 9, 2026 +15
Well, one has award winning shows that are both critical and popular hits and multiple films coming out in theatres this year and next. The other is Star Trek.
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