Starmer under pressure, as Labour suffers heavy election losses

and we think the guys that cant even run a council properly are gonna improve living standards across the country... come on man. Change and hope from what is basically Maga 2.0? Are we seeing change and hope in the states right now? If Reform take the general our country is fucked

How long did it take to f*** up your economy again? And for how long have Labour been in charge? You guys deserve the shitty economy for being so god damn dumb.  Just like how the US deserves every shitty thing that's happening to them currently. 

Local elections aren't a referendum on one particular policy.

That hasn't happened though.

Yea, honestly id welcome a big overly ambitious vanity project! Atleast that would be doing something.

The issue is reform are the only party with a dedicated following. I looked at places they got in and about 15% of registered voters supported them. Every traditional party has betrayed their entire voting base in recent living memory They also have a huge boost from GB news these days

There's a great doc BBC/Discovery made about it in the '90s. I got super into Watergate b/c I thought it would be a roadmap to the downfall of the Trump admin. Alas, I didn't know the GOP would become completely unmoored to decency.

I know that, but on polling numbers I have no clue. I'll look it up.

You can call it media slop all you want, it literally happened.

Pretty much similar issue we have in the US. Republicans spend 4 years ratfucking the economy. Democrats can’t really do anything they want to do because all their attention is on fixing the problem, so when their term comes to end people are like “why didn’t you do what you said”. Also not saying that democrats were great or would have accomplished more, but things take time to fix… and most voters expect when someone takes power to fix everything immediately while also delivering every campaign promise.

Borrowing rates are higher than they were under Liz Truss…

What about all the pedophile scandals in labour? And Starmers frankly disgusting remarks about the grooming gang scandal.

Politics here in Australia are analogous and our greens party runs my local council. They decided to change bin collection from 1 to 2 weeks for general waste (while increasing rate costs) to encourage people disposing of less plastic and non-recyclable waste in general, but the thing is, no change has been made for supermarkets and packaging laws in the country, so supermarkets are just putting more unavoidable waste on shit while you have less room to dispose of it and most c**** foods you are often necessitated to buy because of cost of living are also packaged in general waste. When you have a household like mine, where its more than one single adults worth of waste, then you just run out of bin space and you have no idea what to do with it. While I am an avid environmentalist, its the failure of basic execution and operationalisation that causes a major headache from such a party, I mean if they can't even make basic decisions like that work, and mess up basic statistics at a federal level, its a major deterrent to even consider them as an eligible candidate for my vote, good intentions don't make up for ignorance and stupidity.

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A slight difference, but a bigger proportion is labour voters have decided it's not worth voting and a portion of the electorate who normally doesn't vote is coming out to support reform. Essentially the same thing but it would explain why Labour echoing reform policy and rhetoric has done nothing for their popularity. 

Sort of, yes, there are a significant portion of the population who just want change. Like Bernie voters going to trump. So like the U.S. the massive voter apathy, racism and an unpopular government opened the door for social media to sway your grandparents. On the plus side, the U.K. appears to no longer be a two party state and smaller parties are now gaining significant votes. On the down side the major gain was a party run by corrupt fucksticks.

\>This isn't quite it... It’s all personal opinion at this point, we don’t have much data to work in. \>firstly, Labour won the last election by a landslide. Careful. They didn’t gain a significant % of votes over the previous two elections, they won with the lowest % of votes of any general election. First past the post voting won them a majority. What we know is Labour was about as popular in the last election as the previous two when they lost. Which is a very tenuous position. \>They have a huge majority. Of seats, due to first past the post, they do not have anything near a majority of voters. \>Secondly, while it’s tempting to assume they're losing voters to Reform, the numbers lost that way are only about 5% of those who voted for them last time out. Thy have lost a combined 30% to other left wing parties. It’s near impossible to say which voters switched to where. What we know is reform gained 1442 councillors and Labour lost 1406. Those numbers seem pretty linked. Conservatives lost 557 councillors, Liberal Democrat’s, Green Party and Independents won 552 seats. Again those numbers seem pretty linked. \>The issue at the moment is that theyre being punished by the left for having leaned right. I disagree that Labour is left wing, it hasn’t been left since the 70’s. Centrist, perhaps. Corbyn tried to move them left and it was deeply unpopular with Labour voters. \>This is recoverable, but ironically Labour needs to move left, not right. I don’t agree they need to go left. That doesn’t seem to be what the public want, and they will be competing with actual left wing parties like Green and Liberal Democrat’s, while losing the older xenophobic voters to reform. It’s time to admit there is a strong racist undercurrent in the U.K. and a significant portion of traditional Labour voters (working class, unionists, council estates etc) have racist views. The painting of St George’s flags on roundabouts happened in majority Labour seats, that can’t be ignored. I personally feel they need to deal with reform head on. Labour, conservatives, Green Party and Liberal Democrat’s need to be unified in preventing the threat of Reform. This will be a shit show if they continue to ignore public sentiment and try Corbyn’s policies again.

No that's incorrect. that's russian propaganda, the same that farage pays for to fund his politics.

No that makes sense in a sick, sad way. Brexit was carried out by the Tory party and Farage has repeatedly blamed them for it's failure. That's the spin that those voting Reform tell themselves, they didn't get taken for a ride. The Tories betrayed them and fucked it up. Anything to avoid admitting they've been had.

bwahahahaha - as above ... but they weren't uneducated/stupid/etc when they voted labour.

Is this satire