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lastpassonright Mar 29, 2026 +368

People are absolutely being misled about this conflict and the real and future complications to the world economy.

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nerdyPagaman Mar 29, 2026 +122

Misled is the wrong word. I would say that the world hasn't appreciated what's about to happen.. Although it's slowly dawning on some people. Bloomberg is advising $200 per barrel. So double what it is now. Helium / fertiliser is now fucked.

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Bluestained Mar 29, 2026 +66

Bless. The world knew, just Trump Regime who didn’t.

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Practical-Ball1437 Mar 30, 2026 +23

They knew, they just assumed higher oil prices would be good because the US exports oil.

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Photodan24 Mar 30, 2026 +9

They thought they could control it. Just like those idiots on Youtube who stoke bonfires with gas cans...

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Jerri_man Mar 30, 2026 +13

I think a lot of people have some idea/understanding of how bad it could become but choose to hope for the best or ignore it. Its a coping mechanism

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1-randomonium Mar 29, 2026 +99

People everywhere can already feel the implications but if world leaders mentioned that to Trump he'd just compound their economic problems with extra tariffs.

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TheKillingJoke1991 Mar 29, 2026 +36

Surely Donald won't have anything to do with the world economy being in shambles, which is all the fault of Biden and Obama and somehow Bruce Springsteen, right?

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Armano-Avalus Mar 30, 2026 +5

There is also the usual MAGA supporter trying their damnedest to try to downplay the effects of this. I just saw some of them taking a victory lap over Iran letting some ships to China as Trump's pressure tactics working and oil going down to $60 very quickly.

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redditismylawyer Mar 29, 2026 +11

Nobody is being misled. Not anymore. We’re all eyes wide open and are making definite decisions, one way or the other. There are no innocent people in this boat.

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chilladipa Mar 30, 2026 +3

Starmer has lots of intelligence inputs from the agencies. You have to believe him. Unlike Trump who disregards all intelligence and intelligent advice.

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jpric155 Mar 29, 2026 -13

It's too bad presidents can't be held accountable like CEOs can

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Skate4Xeno Mar 29, 2026 +28

lol, which CEO is ever responsible for their actions. They screw up, golden parachute out, and go on with their lives? This is the businessman everyone wanted. The one who makes dumb decisions, puts his friends in charge of high level positions, and fires all the individual contributors who actually work to keep the company going, despite the executives bad decisions.

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jpric155 Mar 29, 2026 -1

A CEO can be fired. Can a president?

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Zulmoka531 Mar 29, 2026 +13

With a congress and senate that aren’t corrupted to the gills, yes. Something people don’t understand, Trump is the symptom, the entire US government has been overtaken by his shills or people that are using him as the shill. From the pomp senator and congressman, to the head of the pentagon and even local municipalities. And that shit is spreading worldwide!

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Skate4Xeno Mar 29, 2026 +4

Yes. Impeachment.

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Comfortable-nerve78 Mar 29, 2026 +1

Yeah impeachment is the first action to removing a sitting president. Trump has been impeached his first term congress has to push the issue and convict a president after the impeachment. Impeaching his ass did nothing last time. Take Clinton for example he got impeached while sitting and they couldn’t do shit , Congress this is. The ball is in Congress’ court they got no balls they can’t impeach they’re involved.

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hera-fawcett Mar 29, 2026 +2

ceos are almost always given v generous packages to shut up and go away when theyre fired. idt theres enough money and stock dividends out there to bribe the majority of the sitting us government.

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Deditch Mar 29, 2026 +2

I would also like to get 500 millions dollars into my bank account and call it accountablility

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hurdurnotavailable Mar 29, 2026 -41

That depends how it ends though. If done right and the regime is replaced, then the effect could be incredibly positive. There's no bigger hindrance to peace in this region than the islamic terror regime. And the people of Iran overwhelmingly want democracy (89%) and already have an alternative with Reza Pahlavi's transition plan, which as of sept 2025 49% of iranians were in favor of. You can be assured this number is higher now, after the regime massacred 30000+ in just 2 days.

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Araminal Mar 29, 2026 +16

> the people of Iran overwhelmingly want democracy (89%) While I have no doubt that the majority of Iranians just want to live their lives in peace and not be oppressed, where do you get this figure of 89%? Has there been a national poll in Iran recently?

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nerdshowandtell Mar 29, 2026 +18

Then came the US killing their kids, and there is no plan.

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hurdurnotavailable Mar 29, 2026 -22

>Then came the US killing their kids If this is all you got from this war, then your information sources are trash and you should take some time to actually look at the available evidence (including for this claim). Hengaw estimates 7000\~ killed so far. 90% of that are military. The USA & Israel are quite literally killing the oppressors of the people. >and there is no plan Don't confuse the ramblings of Trump for the plans of military & israel. If you think this is just random, then again... your sources are trash and you should put in effort to actually look at all the avilable evidence. Or don't argue about this topic.

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nerdshowandtell Mar 30, 2026 +4

So you think killing innocents isn't going to make a hell of a lot more hate the US? Seems you missed out on some history of the middle east. Your sources don't mean c*** if the Strait of Hormuz is closed and drones and missiles keep flying out of Iran. I don't think you comprehend how large of a regime and military iran has. You are sitting there bragging about some very small numbers in the big picture. Also If you think this is about "liberating" some people you really need to stop watching propaganda.

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hurdurnotavailable Mar 30, 2026 +1

>I don't think you comprehend how large of a regime and military iran has. Apparently not large enough, considering they started importing fighters from Iraq AND using child soldiers because they ran out of personnel. >So you think killing innocents isn't going to make a hell of a lot more hate the US? Seems you missed out on some history of the middle east. I have friends inside Iran. They are elated because of this. It's quite literally the only hope. Is it crazy that someone is elated despite the fear caused by having shockwaves of bombs rattle their entire house? Yes it is. But it's rational if you take into account just how unbelievably evil the regime is they're being oppressed by. I really encourage you to read about the january massacre.. and not just that. The history of this regime, and how the january massacre wasn't the only they caused. >Also If you think this is about "liberating" some people you really need to stop watching propaganda. I'm not the one who's misinformed on this topic. The facts are clear: USA & Israel specifically destroy the oppression apparatus inside iran. And when the time comes, the people will get the signal by Reza Pahlavi, and like they followed his call to action in January, they will do so again. But this time, their opponent will be so weakened, they actually have a chance.

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MaGoodenough Mar 30, 2026 +2

We saw your type during the Iraq war. You were wrong back then and you're wrong about everything right now. You simply swallowed the propaganda from the Government hook, line and sinker.

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hurdurnotavailable Mar 30, 2026 +1

>We saw your type during the Iraq war. You were wrong back then and you're wrong about everything right now. I'm an austrian with friends inside Iran. My type didn't have anything to say about Iraq, because I have no connection to it. Also, the fact you think Iran is comparable to Iraq just tells me you have no clue whatsoever. Google GAMAAN surveys and actually read about Iranians, what they want etc. This is nothing like Iraq.

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MaGoodenough Mar 30, 2026 +1

It doesn't matter where are you from. It's the same stupid talking points "This time it's different bro!". You're the one with no clue about what you are talking about. Iran is 4x bigger than Iraq with double the size of the population AND with the geography of Afghanistan. The government is also under the control of religious fundamentals like the Taliban. If you think those fanatics will simply accept defeat instead of fighting from caves to the last man standing I have a bridge to sell you.

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hurdurnotavailable Mar 30, 2026

You clearly don't have the faintest clue about Iran and its people. I recommend you actually inform yourself on it before spouting such obvious nonsense. Gamaan surveys are the best place to start.

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supercyberlurker Mar 29, 2026 +160

Where is the line between false comfort and suspiciously timed market manipulation? I am not sure there is one with Trump.

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Intelligent_Kick_436 Mar 29, 2026 +63

**MAGA's Mirage** states: *"Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by market manipulation."*

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pburgess22 Mar 29, 2026 +9

I love this....but also despise the reality of it

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Godsbladed Mar 30, 2026 +3

I understand where razor comes from, but from a purely aesthetic point, I feel like *MAGA's Mirage* fits better and has alliteration

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Intelligent_Kick_436 Mar 30, 2026 +2

Swapping that in. Thanks for the improvement :-)

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Godsbladed Mar 30, 2026 +2

For sure! :)

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Renaissance_Dad1990 Mar 29, 2026 +1

I'm fully comfortable assuming that Trump just rushed into this without seeking input under the assumption that it would be quick and easy.

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zoobrix Mar 29, 2026 +107

Even if the war ended tomorrow and the Strait of Hormuz was 100% safe to transit the damage to extraction, storage and refinement facilities in the region means oil prices are still going to remain higher than they were for years to come probably. And high energy prices cause inflation in everything we grow or manufacture. This war is going to have economic and geopolitical consequences for a long, long time. edit: typo

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KaiserSaladSpinner Mar 30, 2026 +14

Welcome back to the 1970s! At least maybe we'll get another 'Star Wars' cultural event?

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LMONDEGREEN Mar 30, 2026 +19

Hollywood has long stopped producing risky good movies and opted for c**** safe bets (prequels/sequels/reboots/remakes) to squeeze every cent out of you. It's the same with every single industry. Where there is an optimal area of low effort, high profit, these CEOs will be drawn to it like bears to honey. It's enshittification. It ends only when people stop consuming.

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pepperino132 Mar 30, 2026 +5

A24 does some pretty weird shit still.

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Itsarightkerfuffle Mar 30, 2026 +1

> like bears to honey Wait what

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dontouchamyspaghet Mar 30, 2026 +8

Even after the damage is repaired - who's to say oil suppliers wouldn't just keep the higher prices for profit after consumers acclimate to them in times of need, like so many other goods Not really much alternatives spurring them to competitively price it

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zoobrix Mar 30, 2026 +4

The producers with damaged equipment probably will want to get some of their market share back though. They can't assume the price will stay high forever, and when it drops they might find their overall profit drops below where they want it to. There are a lot of considerations for how much oil rich nations want to produce, usually when the price is sky high there are always some that would rather sell more at a lower price margin.

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Easik Mar 29, 2026 +57

What false comfort? Anyone with critical thinking skills knows this goes on for months

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Leomonice61 Mar 29, 2026 +84

Starmer is likely referring to the moronic Reform and Tory voters.

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themcsame Mar 29, 2026 +19

Wouldn't surprise me if it's directed at Trump's constant gloating about victory. And with the US looking like it's wanting to get boots on the ground... I'd reckon we're looking at another Vietnam sitatuion that's ultimately going to end in much the same way. Achieving f*** all and ultimately being a lost war for the US. Imho, this situation is about to get a lot worse before it gets better, and we may well witness what could be the largest US military operation since WWII, because Iran is easily one of the worst places to try and stage an invasion... And indeed, there are already a number of similarities between the Vietnam War and the Iran War...

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KaiserSaladSpinner Mar 30, 2026 +8

There was at least a stated objective in Vietnam. A trumped-up, ideological and silly one, but at least there was an objective. This war is just because Trump and his cronies have vibes, as well as a gross miscalculation about the fragility of the Iranian regime given the recent protests.

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1-randomonium Mar 29, 2026 +32

It could go on for years or even decades if the US and Israel are serious about regime change. Or at least as long as Trump remains in office.

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Easik Mar 29, 2026 +13

Agree. Even if it ended tomorrow (it won't), there is 6+ months to restore oil/lng production and security in the region.

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1-randomonium Mar 29, 2026 +8

Much of that infrastructure will take years to rebuild. On a related note I don't think the sanctions on Russian oil will be lifted anytime soon.

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Merry-Lane Mar 29, 2026 +11

They have already been lifted by the USAs lol?

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jellyhessman Mar 29, 2026 +8

The US sanctions on Russian oil were lifted at the beginning of the conflict.

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hurdurnotavailable Mar 29, 2026 -10

There is no conceivable way this regime can survive for even 3+ months unless israel & us stop the war early. The regime was already omega fucked before this war started. Currency worthless, 90% of people despise the regime and want it to change, so much so they're willing to die for it. The fact they'Re already at the "let's use child soldiers" stage and recently there's evidence of hezbollah fighters entering iran... it's probably near the end of their life. Also, they can't pay their soldiers, and the reports of defections are increasing.

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MaGoodenough Mar 30, 2026 +3

This made me remember the Taliban for some reason.

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gargarr Mar 29, 2026 -4

Not only that, people forgot that even before the war Iran was on the verge of evacuating Tehran due to the severe drought This year's winter was as worse as the last 6 winters. One can only wonder what the war will do to their ability to deal with the issue.

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gargarr Mar 29, 2026 -12

It won't go for long. The goal is not to change the regime. The goal is to do massive damage to Iran's military industry so they won't pose a threat to anyone for years to come.

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Easik Mar 29, 2026 +10

Doubling the oil prices and charging a toll to use the strait will fund their military. Not to mention the existential threat that was created, so they will absolutely have nuclear weapons within a year.

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gargarr Mar 29, 2026 -8

Which military? Israel and the US are systematically destroying their military infrastructures. Just yesterday Iran saw the destruction of their biggest steel factories, causing billions of dollars in damages with just one strike. And this is not the first strike. This is done to prevent Iran from being able to arm themselves for years to come. Not to mention that even before the war Iran was facing sever drought, which almost made them evacuate Tehran. Tell me, what do you think the war will do to them? So relax, the war won't last for long. And Iran won't pose a threat to anyone afterwards.

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MaGoodenough Mar 30, 2026 +2

Iran was never a threat to anyone in the first place. They have the right to defend themselves. And the situation in Iran isn't worse than what it was with the Taliban in Afghanistan. They kept fighting with nothing but AK-47s and bazookas. And they returned to power the moment we left. They even have more weapons than the Iraqis.

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gargarr Mar 30, 2026 +1

From 1979 Iran repeatedly stated that they intend to annihilate Israel. They enriched Uranium to around 60% "For civilian purposes". nuclear reactors uses uranium enriched to around 5% to create electricity. Remind me, what "civilian purposes" need uranium enriched to this level? You are either very naive or simply want Iran to succeed in their end goal. There is a reason why none of the gulf countries explicitly called to end the war. They are willing to suffer some damage to remove Iran's ability to pose as a threat to them. As long as the Taliban uses AK-47 no one cares. They can rule Afghanistan and have fun living in their 4rd world country. Don't pose a threat to anyone else and all will be well.

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jpric155 Mar 29, 2026 +6

False comfort as in the market should already be down 10% without this chicanery

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Callaghans_Caps Mar 29, 2026 +3

More likely years….

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SparksMKII Mar 29, 2026 +3

These effects will keep cascading over years

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theanglegrinder07 Mar 29, 2026 +5

Ya I was thinking the same, I'm supposed to be comfortable right now!?

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idiocy_incarnate Mar 29, 2026 +3

You remember "mission accomplished"? President George W. Bush delivered his "Mission Accomplished" speech on May 1, 2003. Aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, he declared that major combat operations in Iraq had ended, **six weeks** after the U.S.-led invasion began. You ain't seem nothing yet. Iraq was a fairly broad minded liberal dictatorship by middle eastern standards. Iran is run by a bunch of fundamentalist suicide bombers who think it's a fine day if they die a martyr.

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Nights_Harvest Mar 29, 2026 +1

Sure, how much more proof do you need to finally realise critical thinking just like common knowledge is not that common.

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Mouthshitter Mar 29, 2026 +13

2 people started this war and all the ills that come with it.

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toaster404 Mar 29, 2026 +36

It's not that hard. We're heading for global supply chain collapse, depression, perhaps a wider conflict, perhaps a nuclear exchange. The way out is for the US to declare victory, come home, offer some reparations or whatever, and abandon Israel. Before saying this is a bad idea, think about Iran's target choices. We're only at the first tier of targets, the ones that are pretty easy to walk back from. The next tier are targets that will collapse the Gulf states. Major energy facilities, infrastructure, desalination, things of that level. Things that will take many years to replace if ever. I don't see anything good happening unless the US backs off.

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Deltwit Mar 29, 2026 -23

Israel would take down the US

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SlipstreamInsane Mar 29, 2026 +31

There really are times that the internet comes along and reminds me that any idiot with a keyboard can just type any moronic thing they want regardless of how absurd it is. You are my remember for today.

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Gustavoconte Mar 29, 2026 -20

Offer reparations to whom?

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toaster404 Mar 29, 2026 +31

Iran. The country we bombed, killed citizens, killed children, for no apparent reason. The party we would be negotiating with.

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Gustavoconte Mar 29, 2026 -36

For no apparent reason, saintly Iran was bombed. Go seat down.

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toaster404 Mar 29, 2026 +24

Do you mean "sit"? Are you aware of what the criteria are for initiating a war of choice for the United States? I didn't think so.

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Plenty-Value3381 Mar 30, 2026 +3

Yea that's not gonna happen. Trump would use nukes before he pay reparations to Iran and admitting the defeat Unfortunate but that's what it is

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AntonioBarbarian Mar 30, 2026 +5

Who cares whether they're saints or not, they shouldn't have been attacked in the first place.

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lachwee Mar 29, 2026 +3

Well dont worry the Houthis have joined the conflict too so red sea shipping will get disrupted again soon

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nega1337noob Mar 29, 2026 +5

because IRGC, 6 months to Conventional Neutralization, 2 years for Institutional Collapse and those are wishful thinking numbers. Like the Ba'ath Party in Iraq, former IRGC members would likely form a long-term insurgency or "Deep State" even if the official organization is disbanded.

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manniesalado Mar 30, 2026 +5

The war can end in an instant. Tehran has put conditions for peace on the table, and the loser...which is Trump....has to accept them.

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samurguybri Mar 30, 2026 +1

Ya think? This operation is so ill conceived and our amazing soldiers are being hampered and put at risk by half wit who couldn’t execute a battle to get out of a paper bag properly.

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Bierculles Mar 30, 2026 +1

This is absolutely going to be another 20 year long bottomless barrel

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HoneyBadger552 Mar 29, 2026 +2

ken. get your people out of the region. mango man has zero control of the situation

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call-the-wizards Mar 29, 2026 -12

Yeah yeah we know, "higher oil prices." Meanwhile we're talking about a regime that's an actual cancer on the face of the planet, and also we should be moving away from oil anyway.

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reco84 Mar 29, 2026 +23

Which one?

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call-the-wizards Mar 29, 2026 +3

Good question

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JirdehAA Mar 30, 2026 +2

The Regime Buffet is open, enjoy oppression and repression from all corners of the world.

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nerdshowandtell Mar 30, 2026 +2

You know oil is used for more than just fuel for cars right 🤦‍♂️

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sf-keto Mar 30, 2026

“On energy supplies, I can reassure the committee that we haven’t any meaningful concern about energy supplies. Obviously the price fluctuates daily.” Too many here in Britain are struggling to pay for energy costs now, tho. What does the government plan to do about this? At least it will soon be warmer in the next 3 weeks.

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SuperRektT Mar 29, 2026 -11

Daddy Trump will be VERY furious at you

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vincentveganvega Mar 29, 2026 -64

Oh look it’s Neville Chamberlain 2.0

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SPQR-Tightanus Mar 29, 2026 +41

There is a "big blue ocean" between the UK and Iran. It's not his war, it's that simple.

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ICantBelieveItsNotEC Mar 29, 2026

Oceans don't matter to a country that relies heavily on convincing religious idiots to blow themselves up, and thanks to decades of swiss cheese borders, we have more than our fair share of religious idiots. We can either acknowledge that we're part of this war now or after the inevitable large scale terror attack a few months from now.

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nothymetocook Mar 30, 2026 -1

About 4,000 km or so? As the ballistic missile flies, of course

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1-randomonium Mar 29, 2026 +49

More like Harold Wilson 2.0 refusing to get the UK entangled in Vietnam.

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Castrol-5w30 Mar 29, 2026 +19

I don't see how this comment is relevant. I'm not being rude, I just don't think reference to Neville Chamberlain has any comparison to the Iran situation. Russia? Sure.

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OldLondon Mar 29, 2026 +7

Nothing to do with the UK, it’s hardly the same is it. US shit their own bed they can lie in it

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lebennaia Mar 30, 2026 +2

The same Neville Chamberlain that massively expanded the military, built the world's first air defence network, and declared war on Hitler?

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TheSchlaf Mar 29, 2026 -27

Just give Trump Iceland. He'll calm down and not ask for anything else.

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TheKillingJoke1991 Mar 29, 2026 +15

"He'll calm down and not ask for anything else." Yeah for about a week. After a week he'll find a new reason to throw another tantrum.

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1-randomonium Mar 29, 2026 +5

He's already said the next war will be in Cuba. Thankfully he probably won't think to ask the allies to help with that.

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TheKillingJoke1991 Mar 29, 2026 +7

Oh I wouldn't bet on that...

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RM_r_us Mar 29, 2026 -47

There's stil s#@^ on your face Starmer, from all that Trump arse kissing, but *now* you have regrets?

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1-randomonium Mar 29, 2026 +36

I don't think he does. Every European leader knew that the rift with the Trump administration and more broadly the United States would only grow over time; they just wanted to prolong the period of relative peace and calm as far as possible.

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Leomonice61 Mar 29, 2026 +15

It was and will remain a diplomatic stance for Starmer to take. I just hope and pray that eventualy the orange psychopath is removed from office.

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