ListNook

_Kristian_ Apr 2, 2018 +2122

So are you still working on dark theme? I can't browse Listnook at 3 am anymore!

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Amg137 Apr 2, 2018 +1651

Yes, this something we are working on right now and should see the light soon...

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MoribundCow Apr 2, 2018 +93

It would be awesome if it somehow works with the custom css some subs use. RES's night mode looks really bad with most of them.

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bedroom_period Apr 2, 2018 +645

If he's browsing at 3 a.m. he'll see the light soon too.

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notchandlerbing Apr 2, 2018 +63

[OH BOY 3AM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e8vZ9BidiI)

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +269

>see the light That's what I *don't* want

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +24

I swear I saw this exact same exchange of comments yesterday...

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Gamera68 Apr 2, 2018 +15

You could have an on/off "switch" that turns the site black like youtube does for us nightowls. ;)

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TiGeRpro Apr 2, 2018 +19

I will eat a piece of ***pizza*** if you implement this by the end of the week. I DARE YOU.

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Howie-M Apr 2, 2018 +94

About dark theme.. Blue is the color that keeps you awake. It's really not a good colour for a dark theme. Just saying :)

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amgoingtohell Apr 3, 2018 +32

It's not the same thing. Having a 'blue light' filter running on a device doesn't mean you don't see the color blue. It filters light that the [retinal ganglion cells](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retinal_ganglion_cell) in our eyes containing [melanopsin](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanopsin) are sensitive to. 'Blue light' can be from light that appears green, blue, cyan, and even orange. Many devices (Android, Windows) now have filters built in that you can set to come on a few hours before bedtime. You'll still see blue on the screen, but from experience it is the colour white that is most noticeably affected - having a kind of orange hue. You get used to it.

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CRAZEDDUCKling Apr 2, 2018 +37

Surely you want blue because you want to stay up all night listnooking

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huskerfan4life520 Apr 2, 2018 +1027

I wish the new redesign didn't break flair in the sports sublistnooks. It's a huge part of the culture on /r/cfb, for example. I understand it'll improve the site as a whole, but I feel that's a pretty big casualty.

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thehomiemoth Apr 3, 2018 +14

Yeah without flair how would we ever know you were a huge Hawkeyes fan? All jokes aside, I think this would drastically screw up /r/nfl and /r/nba to not have custom image flairs of team logos. Here’s hoping they fix that all the way.

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huskerfan4life520 Apr 3, 2018 +9

Whoa, some jokes go too far. That said, sounds like they’re listening but still sticking to this weird emoji thing rather than keeping the custom image flairs. Kinda shitty.

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Amg137 Apr 2, 2018 +408

We have heard that feedback and are working on solution. We only used to support 100 emojis and increased that limit to 300, however we will increase it further.

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AdmiralKird Apr 3, 2018 +78

300 is still below the threshold of some of the larger flair subs. As the CSS mod on r/asoiaf, we have ~430 pieces of flair for each of the different houses, and r/pokemon also has a flair for each creature. I'm not inclined to mess with all the emoji flair for the redesign though currently, as I hope you guys can come up with a better solution. I hope the listnook admins look more at how our community uses flair because its a pretty good example of a well-oiled system for a redesign. We use 28x28 pixel flairs because they give us enough detail in the tiny image to show what the houses are, which is compensated for in text lines by having them spread a bit above and below the vertical text height. It's not a format-perfect solution but its a good mix between readability and formatting. Also users can click on the flair and it pops out to a 250x250 image with a 150x150 version of the flair with a bit of information of that particular house/character, which helps users learn more about the associations of all the different houses and characters in a sprawling story like ASOIAF. It's a good tool for our community as much as its aesthetic.

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loldudester Apr 2, 2018 +289

Emojis in flairs is a half-solution since they are still technically text, meaning subs can't let users have custom text flairs, with set image flairs. Using emojis also breaks support for the old site, which I can almost understand, but you *could* have made it work for both. If CSS (if it ever gets implemented) allows me to do image flairs without emojis, then I will never use the emoji feature again.

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tbar310 Apr 2, 2018 +103

Will r/NFL still have the option to have team sublistnooks linked in the banner like it is now or even animated links like in r/LosAngelesRams (EDIT: and also r/NBA and r/books, s/o to u/likeafox)? r/NFL's team sublistnook links section in the banner (also r/NBA) is my favorite feature in any sublistnook.

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likeafox Apr 2, 2018 +5

That's definitely one of the sublistnook customizations (banner links) that I've noticed will be the hardest to replicate on the redesign in its current form. Other subs with very unique banner link systems include r/books and r/movies. r/NFL could move those links to the sidebar somewhere. r/Europe provides links to national subs via their disgustingly awesome map, which does work on the sidebar. Closer to the final launch of the redesign (a couple / several months from now) it is expected that the admins will enable custom CSS in more places, and the header might potentially be portable to that new CSS system. Providing widget space in the banner would also be a good idea in my opinion. r/NBA has done some really slick custom CSS in their sidebar redesign if you want to see examples of what is possible Right Now.

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BoulderizCrAzY Apr 2, 2018 +628

But how do I know I can TRUST you, redesign team?

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Amg137 Apr 2, 2018 +379

Well if [my circle](https://www.listnook.com/r/CircleofTrust/comments/891976/who_will_win_the_world_cup/) wasn't betrayed already I would invite you to it

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doodszzz Apr 2, 2018 +81

What is this circle thing. I'm on mobile. It looks like it's just loading.

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Seven2Death Apr 2, 2018 +137

its their day late horrible april fools day attempt. its embarrassing really.

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albinobluesheep Apr 2, 2018 +57

And now it's gone private because they are having more bugs with it. The biggest April fools joke was everyone expecting something interesting on Sunday morning and there being literally nothing...until they had to plug it in an announcements post because no one had found it.

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TerminallyCapriSun Apr 3, 2018 +27

Easter completely ruined April Fools for the internet this year. It was a Sunday so no one was in the office, plus most people were offline visiting family. I'm sure there were all sorts of incredibly disappointed Google employees who realized nobody was playing their Where's Waldo game on maps.

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Fatalchemist Apr 2, 2018 +68

Wait. What? This is literally the first I heard about it. I don't see any front page posts about it and don't even know where to look. What exactly is it?

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flounder19 Apr 3, 2018 +39

It broke the site's ability to process upvotes so it's down temporarily now. Not sure if it'll come back or not

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Zekeroonie Apr 2, 2018 +188

\*refreshes /r/announcements/new\* \*sees new post\* Look its about /r/circleoftrust! :'(

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bobcobble Apr 2, 2018 +149

I'm actually really enjoying the redesign for browsing. Thanks everyone who listens to feedback in r/redesign and fixes stuff that breaks. I didn't like it at first but it's getting so much better. :)

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Jakeable Apr 2, 2018 +52

I've started using the redesign (for everything except moderation), and I have to say it provides a great browsing experience. Good work so far!

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delicious_tomato Apr 3, 2018 +18

Ah lovely, gilded twice with 40-ish upvotes after 19 hours. I certainly believe this comment wasn’t planted at all in any manner! The outrage and criticism in /r/beta is very real. Everyone knows Listnook needs to make money. There’s a general feeling that this site is leaning towards social media and data collection. How many times has it been pointed out how invasive the chat feature is? How many times have people complained about the new interface? How many times must people request that they can turn off any/all of the new “upgrades”? Whoever Listnook is selling this site to, I hope they realize that the value will be gone the moment the new interface comes in to place. I will certainly jump to the next site that has the same heart and interface as this one if and when that happens. I hope it doesn’t happen, because I love Listnook. * EDIT AFTER 24 HOURS: The original parent comment is down to 31 points now, I think that pretty much drives the point down.

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CelineHagbard Apr 2, 2018 +46

There is no way this was gilded twice by regular users in two hours. **Admins**: we can see you gilding these things, and it's counter-productive.

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[deleted] Apr 3, 2018 +33

why the f*** is this gilded it's not clever, there's no new information being presented, there's no witty quote or interesting point it's just a corporate h******

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Prolougey Apr 2, 2018 +49

Can i join? I'd love to try it!

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Amg137 Apr 2, 2018 +75

Of course, we will add you right now :-)

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TikiTDO Apr 2, 2018 +362

Could we have a preference option to default to old.listnook.com instead of the redesign? (Edit: this exists under beta options, thanks /u/taulover). I've been using the new style for a bit now, and I'm still not finding the overall experience is particularly enjoyable for a few key reasons. 1. I mostly come to listnook because I'm interested in the discussion, and the new listnook hides the number of comments way on the other side of the page from all the other information. Since the redesign I've found myself opening 0 comment threads constantly. As an addendum; I don't actually care what the actual numeric score of a submission is; it's clearly high enough to be on my front page, beyond that the number doesn't affect how I'll interact with the story. Before it was sort of low key, but now this part is doubly emphasized with both very prominent positioning, and the extra space taken by the up/down arrows. 2. The modal view for single left click is not very comment friendly. Now if I'm writing a long comment all it takes is a misplaced click, and all my work is lost. At the very least there should be a warning when trying to close a modal with text in a comment form. 3. I would always browse sublistnooks with custom CSS turned off, because I like the clean and consistent experience. With the redesign a bunch of sublistnooks now have a huge banner that takes a lot of my screen real estate for no particular reason. It would be nice to opt into a more minimal UI that tries to conserve screen real estate. 4. Putting the "Hide" button in the extra menu makes it much less useful. Previously if I found myself seeing the same stories too often I could just go down the list and hide the ones I've seen. Now it's a long mouse movement and then 2 clicks to hide something, which makes it much less usable. 5. With the emphasis on opening the comment thread from the topic list, there's now much more mouse movement involved in opening an actual link. Though I do appreciate how it's easier to get to comments now, it would be nice to have the link itself be in a more consistent position.

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taulover Apr 3, 2018 +33

> Could we have a preference option to default to old.listnook.com instead of the redesign In my settings at least, there is (under "beta options") an option saying "Use the redesign as my default experience." I have it unchecked, so old listnook is default and the redesign is at new.listnook.com.

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ShaanCC Apr 3, 2018 +12

> As an addendum; I don't actually care what the actual numeric score of a submission is; it's clearly high enough to be on my front page, beyond that the number doesn't affect how I'll interact with the story You say that, but I've been getting 0 point threads up the ass on my frontpage recently and it's driving me insane.

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remtard_remmington Apr 3, 2018 +9

Aw man, I use the hide feature for every post I read! I hope they change that when they actually roll it out

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ShitInMyCunt-2dollar Apr 3, 2018 +9

Yep - I hide every post as I go through because I'm so sick of the useless algorithm that decides what comes up on the 'best' page. Subscribed to over 100 subs, but if I don't actively hide posts, I never stop seeing the same ones, over and over. And as of this week, I'm seeing many, many duplicates on each page I load. Sometimes, up to 40% of the posts I see are duplicates (same post twice on the same page). And these clowns want to work on a redesign no one asked for? They need to get simple shit right, first and foremost.

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dontgive_afuck Apr 2, 2018 +35

You guys are seriously tugging at me heartstrings here. I have gone from excited that we would have the option to be able to use the site as it currently exists (no changes whatsoever), as hinted in an announcement posted, over a month ago, here: https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/817lmi/til_listnook_has_a_design_team/dv12980/ To somewhat disappointed -but had forced myself to come to terms with it - due to this answer posted in another announcement post, 18 days ago: https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/84nyj6/a_shortish_history_of_new_features_on_listnook/dvr68vp/ And now this: >All that said, we know that many of you love Listnook just the way it is. If you are one of the lucky few chosen to test out the redesign and prefer the existing Listnook experience, you can switch back and forth via a banner across the top or visit old.listnook.com. Furthermore, we do not have plans to do away with the current site. We want to give you more choices for how you view Listnook we are looking at you i.listnook.com. I don't know how much more me teeny, cold heart can take of this. But I genuinely hope that this is the ***final*** answer, and that you guys ultimately decide on keeping old.listnook.com around indefinitely. That would make me happy. Thanks guys for keeping us all updated on the redesign process. Pretty rad of you all:)

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ledzep14 Apr 30, 2018 +22

This update is absolutely broken /u/amg137 This morning, I opened up Listnook and was greeted by the redesign again. I used it before, and opted out because I did not enjoy it. However, now I can't opt out anymore. Anytime I try, I'm just redirected to the front page. So now I'm stuck with this half-baked attempt at Facebook. The bugs I have encountered are numerous. Some examples are: - Not being able to access my settings and being redirected to the front page - Not being able to access my messages and being redirected to the front page. Notice a pattern here? - The title and votes being in a black background with black type, so it becomes completely unreadable. - Having to switch out of "Fancy Pants Editor" because it won't allow me to comment on anything at all. The only thing that does seem to work correctly is the Submit Feedback button, which I have used extensively all day reporting bugs and giving feedback. This update is atrocious, and is just plain frustrating. This is approaching Digg levels of bad. I feel like no one here asked for this to happen. It is slowly, but surely, becoming Facebook, and that is truly such a shame. When/if this update goes permanent, and there is no option to go back to the "old listnook", I will delete all of my accounts and find something else.

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mokawede Apr 3, 2018 +48

It's here! Yeah! I was so looking forward to it. I switched back to the old design. Stuff I like: + The new Editor. I don't like markup, so that's a big plus. + The general design. It's clearly arranged now. Stuff I don't like: - I'm not able to collapse comment threads anymore, which makes navigating huge amounts of comments a pain. - The redesign utilizes loading graphics. Every site that uses loading graphics has a problem, imho. - There's too much Javascript going on, the redesign takes some time to load, compared to the default design. I bet a few things could've been done with less Javascript and more CSS and HTML. - The font is still too small. - The thumbnails are still way too tiny. As soon as there's less stuff going on in the window.onload() function I'll switch back to the redesign.

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likeafox Apr 3, 2018 +5

>I'm not able to collapse comment threads anymore, which makes navigating huge amounts of comments a pain. It's still there, there's a vertical line next to threads that will collapse. There was previously a button as well but they're experimenting with it a little. I suspect the dedicated button will return though. >The redesign utilizes loading graphics. Every site that uses loading graphics has a problem, imho. Yes, there are some places where loading is noticeable. That said, they have room to optimize the code and improve. Some loading times compare favorably with the legacy site for me, like when switching between an individual sub and the home feed. >There's too much Javascript going on, the redesign takes some time to load, compared to the default design. I bet a few things could've been done with less Javascript and more CSS and HTML. They're using react. We'll see how much optimizing will improve this. >The font is still too small. I think the comment font is finally on point personally. The title font could probably be a *little* bigger in Compact mode.

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ccaterinaghost Apr 12, 2018 +7

I'm actually really angry at how horrible the usability has gotten. That line for collapsing and expanding comment threads is the least obvious change. Ever. What on earth were you guys thinking when you designed this? Did anyone even try to test this redesign? Did anyone do research on common usability patterns?

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ItalianDragon Apr 2, 2018 +304

To be honest, the "Classic" theme aside which is somewhat palatable, all the new themes are flat out horrible. - Card looks like Listnook and Tumblr had a big ugly child that looks like those long forgotten blogs from the early 2000. To put it Deadpool style, it "look like Freddy Krueger face-fucked a topographical map of Utah". Also having ads appear as posts is as honest as if you were trying to get us into some multilevel marketing scheme which to say the least is very VERY scummy. - Compact on the other hand looks like the default theme Listnook has now but somehow broke halfway during the loading of the page and results in half the content going AWOL. Alternatively it reminds me of those darknet websites you see in some shows on TV's that sell a whole bunch of illegal stuff. So on one hand it looks like the design team got very drunk and broke a good part of the code and on the other it looks like Listnook became a website that sells illegal stuff. All in all that's not exactly a good impression. - Now as for the "Classic" theme the only problem it has as far as I can see is the font used which looks very close to Comic Sans MS, and while I'm sure there's people in your team that love shiba inus, having the whole website look like an old meme straight out of r/doge isn't exactly a good way to make your site attractive. Instead it looks like the team consists of 70-year olds who are desperately trying to fit in with their grandkids by wearing rapper clothing and saying "swag" more often than a pornstar moans. So the TL;DR is that while I can understand the wish to give the site a refresh, it really feels like you guys thought more about if you could do it and not much about if you should do it.

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narrill Apr 2, 2018 +12

> Card looks like Listnook and Tumblr had a big ugly child that looks like those long forgotten blogs from the early 2000. Maybe this is just because I use a similar mode on my (unofficial) mobile app, but card looks fine to me. It's the same as classic, but the images are larger. > Compact on the other hand looks like the default theme Listnook has now but somehow broke halfway during the loading of the page and results in half the content going AWOL. I expect this is because compact doesn't show thumbnails. It's an odd choice, I agree, but if listnook's servers don't currently store thumbnails of the appropriate size there's not much they can do, as I don't see them pushing major changes to the production servers just to test a feature on the redesign. Maybe there will be smaller thumbnails on compact when the redesign ships, or maybe omitting them is a deliberate choice to offset the cost to load times from showing significantly more posts per page. > as for the "Classic" theme the only problem it has as far as I can see is the font used which looks very close to Comic Sans MS All three views use the same font, so this complaint doesn't really make sense to me. Personally, I don't mind any of the themes, and as a general user I don't really notice any of the missing features people have been talking about. I do think the redesign is visually much busier than the current site, which is bad, and I think many of the added elements, particularly the sublistnook list on the left, could either fold into the sides of the screen or simply reduce their alpha after several seconds. Lots of thought has clearly gone into the layout, but I feel it's been approached with the goal of revamping the site's aesthetic rather than revamping its user experience, and the user experience suffers as a result. The visual clutter alone is enough to make me prefer the current design.

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shelleyphant Apr 2, 2018 +37

God yes the tumblr comment! That was my first thought too. I have nooooo desire to stay on any site resembling tumblr

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pantsu Apr 19, 2018 +47

I come to Listnook to read information, and this update has made that experience significantly worse. I don't need cute boxes eating up extra space around every link. Useless information is highlighted and given extra space (upvote tally) while useful information is sidelined (replies). The column of icons (link, pic, text) is pointless. I use the "hide" link to remove things I've read from my list, and now that's buried in a pulldown menu - along with "save". The new font looks terrible and pixelated. Having links on the right in a different color distracts from the actual post title To me these changes make the site layout much worse without making a single improvement to either ease of use or presentation of information.

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skepticones Apr 2, 2018 +231

u/Amg137 when will we be seeing updates to the way promoted posts are displayed? As both a reader and a moderator it is VERY jarring to read a headline and immediately think 'this doesn't belong here \- this needs to be reported or removed' before I notice the tiny 'Promoted' tag below it. It creates an immediate negative impression before I've even had a chance to consider the content of the ad itself. It doesn't benefit me as a reader and I seriously doubt Listnook's advertisers want that either. These posts really need a distinctive border or background color so I'm not reading them with my 'gatekeeping' senses turned on.

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[deleted] Apr 3, 2018 +118

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[deleted] Apr 3, 2018 +50

Just like all other social media sites. Break it on purpose for money. It's shameful but reality. Welcome to 2018 everyone. We got cake, no freedom, and ads up the ass that you cannot avoid ever, but lots of cake.

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haltingpoint Apr 3, 2018 +25

Worse, on the Android app, I see no indicator of something in my feed being an ad until I click on it, and only then do I see the tiny icon. I'm a senior media buyer and that it just flat out unacceptable. I'm half tempted to report them to the FTC.

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dontsuckmydick Apr 3, 2018 +23

Questions about promoted posts are not allowed m***********.

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EarthAllAlong Apr 3, 2018 +125

"Card" looks horrible. You're basically angling to make it like facebook, basically making it take longer to scroll through the feed so you retain viewership of your app for longer periods of time so the platform is more enticing to advertisers, who also 'coincidentally' can put up ads that look identical to actual posts now. I think it's horrible and for usability it's an absolute downgrade. I'm sure it suits your purposes just fine, so you're going to go ahead with it. But it is an inferior product from the user's perspective. Especially once the log of my posts that I like to see when I click my name becomes a _profile_ that you hope to use to fish more information from me for you to sell. And let's not act like that's not coming. I honestly can't name one thing that is better. What's something that you guys think is better about the new version?

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onan Apr 2, 2018 +335

You still seem to have not addressed the question of why changes were needed at all. "We needed to refactor it to be able to add more features," isn't an answer to this. It's just circular reasoning, presuming that more features were needed in the first case. If you are interested in convincing anyone of the utility of a redesign, you would need to articulate _which_ new features it would enable, and make a case for those being worthwhile. Refactoring is a means, not and end unto itself. Listnook doesn't have technical problems, it has community and administration problems. It would be preferable to see the company focus on its actual issues, rather than dumping resources into non-solutions for non-problems.

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the-zoidberg Apr 2, 2018 +17

> You still seem to have not addressed the question of why changes were needed at all. Somebody is justifying their job OR this is part of a larger project...

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etacarinae Apr 2, 2018 +12

>Somebody is justifying their job This is a cancer in tech and ruining so many things.

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +12

To put ads in line with posts so it's harder to tell the difference.

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Terkala Apr 3, 2018 +14

They are moving to closed source. That is a big one for making sweeping changes so they can hide content they don't like without it being as obvious as it is right now.

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JDGumby Apr 2, 2018 +587

> And if you don’t like it, you can opt out. > Furthermore, we do not have plans to do away with the current site. ...until voluntary adoption slows down just enough for you to say "Well, almost no one's using the older version of the site, so we might as well shut it down", of course.

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XDGrangerDX Apr 2, 2018 +276

And if that doesnt happen fast enough or not enough people are actually willing to migrate, intentionally break old functionality. I've seen it happen so many times...

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equinox234 Apr 3, 2018 +73

or the age old line "We're not spending money to maintain old functionality" when it comes to bugs.

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[deleted] Apr 3, 2018 +15

Sorry all of our design team are busy working on the new site, we're not able to address your comment at the moment

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MR_Rictus Apr 2, 2018 +63

Opt out feature isn't working for me. I'm stuck with the new one which I don't like. No hide feature for example. The reply formatting tools are nice though.

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +167

I'll keep using the old site. If it goes away or breaks, peace out Listnook

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grandmoffcory Apr 2, 2018 +87

Yeah I'm here until I'm forced to migrate to the new design then I'll finally be free of this damn place.

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cmVkZGl0 Apr 3, 2018 +18

And then history repeats itself... Good ole digg v2.

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Algernon_Asimov Apr 3, 2018 +6

I'd point out that www.listnook.com/.compact is still working *years* after it got superseded by m.listnook.com. If they haven't killed that, they probably also won't kill this current/old version of the desktop website. Listnook seems to create new versions, leaving the old versions behind it like a trail of breadcrumbs.

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Sarge_Ward Apr 2, 2018 +124

> Furthermore, we do not have plans to do away with the current site. We want to give you more choices for how you view Listnook no plans currently, but is this subject to change in the future? I am personally not a big fan of the redesign and would not look forward to it suddenly becoming the default in the near future.

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mxzf Apr 2, 2018 +73

They'll get rid of the current site as soon as the outrage dies down and becomes background noise. If not enough people adopt fast enough, they'll start breaking parts of the current site and saying "tough, it's legacy, you should use the redesign instead" until enough people are moved over that the outrage of dropping the existing functionality will be quiet enough to sweep under the rug.

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baked_ham Apr 3, 2018 +110

Why is it so bad that mobile users choose to view the site in desktop format? I don’t want your website to force me into mobile mode every time I visit the page or hit next to view the next page. As of the last hour this happened every. Single. Time. I don’t want your app. I don’t want your mobile mode. I don’t want to select the type of page I want to view every time I refresh the site. This is annoying enough that I’ll stop using listnook.

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[deleted] Apr 3, 2018 +16

Did they remove my ability to minimize/hide comments? If they did, WHY? I'm incredibly frustrated right now. In really long comment chains, this helps me keep track of things and makes the giant scroll wall much much less of a giant scroll wall... Opting out right away until that's fixed. EDIT \-\- I was wrong! I keep accidentally going to the new layout via my listnook bookmarks and realized by accident that you can click the gray vertical stripe below the upvote/downvote to minimize that comment thread. I'd say that's fine, if not particularly intuitive. I was being very melodramatic...

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CapeAndCowl Apr 12, 2018 +7

Thank you for the edit... I've been spending the last 20 minutes trying to figure out why the hell the got rid of the hide children comments option... instead they've just hidden it with no indication that it's there... I like the new design, but that is TERRIBLE UX, get it together listnook.

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BitAlt May 2, 2018 +14

### HORRID!!! * Bad typefaces * More bad typeface mixed sizing (again) * *Everything* popped off the background into faux floating dialogs * My scrollbar is inches from the edge of my screen. * Why would you break browser UX expectations which have been decades in the making? edit: Reading deeper I can see you're on the path to cycling out old annoying users as you slowly utilise the content they generate to build a new more advert friendly audience. While one audience will slowly leave, another more placid and malleable one will take it's place. Then you can turn off the old design. Good luck on your future ventures, you'll be doing it without me.

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DiamondMinah Apr 2, 2018 +32

I don't like the massive click area for posts. On mobile I can understand for people with fat fingers, but on desktop with a very precise pointer it is next to useless. This post describes it well. https://www.listnook.com/r/beta/comments/88i5gf/request_provide_a_non_clickable_card_view_or/

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SorryToSay Apr 2, 2018 +80

Thank you so much for the recent update that now prompts me to download your app every f****** five seconds and lingers on the back page. F*** that shit I use Listnook all day everyday and I don't want your f****** app.

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t0f0b0 Apr 3, 2018 +67

Brutal concern incoming: I just hope this doesn't ruin Listnook. I like it the way it is/was. The new profile page... I don't like it. It was easier to read my stuff before that change. I can only imagine what similar stuff is in store for the rest of the site.

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[deleted] Apr 20, 2018 +15

How do I opt out of this buggy piece of garbage? Why was it shipped like this? 1\) I couldn't log in. I had to go to some special SSL page to log in. Every other login attempt from every other page failed. 2\) Items on the page will sometimes literally vibrate, as if the whole page is trying to fall apart. 3\) The popups on\-click are unintuitive and awful, especially if I'm using a smaller window that doesn't take up my full screen. EDIT: 4\) Buttons not working and needing to reload the page

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ArvenSnow Apr 19, 2018 +19

The opt out better be indefinite. I hate the new layout. Also, the fact that I had to dig a bit to figure out how to switch it back to the old version is ridiculous. The "opt out" button on the log in menu doesn't do jack. Couldn't how to opt out of it permanently been listed on this post or at least a link to how to manage the two versions that now exist for some reason?

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +894

I dont like how ads looks exactly like a post now. They give you the option to upvote/downvote and the thread is locked. It just feels scummy. Edit: [heres an example](https://imgur.com/gallery/dHZGv)

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Tal6727 Apr 2, 2018 +341

Yeah having the ads just placed in the middle of the other content on the page just makes it look like they want to deceive you.

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lunboks Apr 2, 2018 +252

Indeed! What a silly mistake of them to make it look deceptive. What an accidental whoopsy blunder that they made it exactly like that.

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Grai_M Apr 3, 2018 +15

Oopsy woopsy we made a little fucky wucky! Looks like we aw bein vewwy scummy tummy!

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +205

I mean a lot of them are starting with “TIL:” So dumb.

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ImmortalSheep Apr 2, 2018 +166

TIL these 2 college students made an app that can determine your favorite wine with simple questions like "what is your favorite chocolate?" Seems kinda scummy to structure it like a Listnook post, I was cool with just normal ads beforehand

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +71

Yep. Eaxactly the kind of shit that belongs on r/mildlyinfuriating

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IrrelevantLeprechaun Apr 2, 2018 +42

“TIL that Comcast is the widest supported service in America for the last fifty years!”

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blue-sunrising Apr 2, 2018 +26

TIFU by not buying a verification can filled with cold refreshing Mountain Dew^^tm

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youknow99 Apr 2, 2018 +48

I'm pretty sure that was the entire point of this redesign. They are trying to make listnook into more of a "social media platform."

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gentlemandinosaur Apr 2, 2018 +58

How come no admin ever says shit when they get criticism but totally will for praise?

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burnitalldowne Apr 2, 2018 +122

all those stupid f****** emoji almost gave me a seizure.

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Pinksters Apr 2, 2018 +56

>Fellow PC Owners! ComputerCoin is the most💯 lit thing since 🔥🔥🔥👌👌 We also \#meme

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DoctorWaluigiTime Apr 2, 2018 +55

Sick of this shit, and the plethora of people who have drunk the flavor aid and try to defend this deception.

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +10

It's the move towards a Facebook similar interface. There was an excellent post about it a week or two ago.

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +26

the self ads on mobile site are also super dumb and to grant exclusion privileges from listnook site wide rules is also dumb

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CharaNalaar Apr 2, 2018 +35

Are you surprised though? That's exactly where every other social network is going.

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +55

This is exactly what Digg did before the exodus.

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +59

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aaaaaahsatan Apr 3, 2018 +21

They want to integrate the ads into regular content so to monetize everything, hence the redesign. There's no going back from here. It's where all social media platforms are going, unfortunately.

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +29

I used it for a little while and didn't like it at all. Came back this version and didn't look back. Hopefully we'll still have this as a legacy option after it launches or my Listnook days might be numbered after 5 years of being here.

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liamemsa Apr 2, 2018 +41

Hey can you fix the chat notification icon that I've had for the past month despite the fact that I've literally never used chat and no one has ever sent me a chat and I've logged back in and out a hundred times and **the f****** thing won't go away?** Thanks so much.

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syuk Apr 2, 2018 +12

Past the below into 'my filters' inside ublock origin add on (if you use firefox and have it). www.listnook.com###chat www.listnook.com##.separator:nth-of-type(3) www.listnook.com###chat-count

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SerafineSilverstream Apr 25, 2018 +17

The redesign is AWFUL. It breaks the flair system and half of the options on the individual topics are not visible with clicking on some annoying dropdown menu. It looks terrible, it butchers usability and it breaks half of the site's core functionality. I can't properly moderate anything with that abomination of an interface.

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[deleted] Apr 13, 2018 +18

Thank god I finally found a button that took me out of the new interface. It's a joke! There is so much wasted space it's not even funny. And like many others have said, I feel that this is an attempt to gear Listnook towards an audience that doesn't use it anyway, therefore alienating the original users of this site.

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +61

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skynet_watches_me_p Apr 2, 2018 +39

> are we all doomed to an endless cycle of democratic aggregaters being slowly churned into corporate advertising platforms? yes :(

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brucesalem Apr 3, 2018 +9

I use Listnook from a desktop and so I don't need redesigns meant for mobile devices. In fact, I would like to be able to filter comments that are shorter than a 140 character tweet. For me Listnook would be easier to use if I didn't have to see short comments as most of those do not contain much that is useful or interesting. So, I welcome retention of the existing presentation. I especially want to be able to use Markdown Format even though I know that most people do not use it. I would like it if more people used it and through the design its use were encouraged.

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SerjoHlaaluDramBero Apr 3, 2018 +101

How do I opt-out of this shit early? Is there a "don't change anything anymore, please, for the love of God, stop turning into Digg" box I can check off? Because that "classic" don't look very classic.

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +511

>we do not have plans to do away with the current site. *Arrested Development Narrator*: But they did.

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E123-Omega Apr 27, 2018 +10

The font on frontpage is shit...I dont know, I think I like it better to have slim fonts. At least we have compact view and slide view of communities I subbed, that was nice. The notif button was different place right now that it was harder to check if there's a notif at all. It was due to placement of it and it was small. Popup post is not nice, I usually condensed my screen to a small one for better viewing instead on a full screen view. Add themes like in app. # ALSO SOME FORMATTING LINK DOESNT WORK!!! \[Link\]\([https://i.imgur.com/wuLyfFp.png](https://i.imgur.com/wuLyfFp.png)\)

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +95

Honestly I spent 10 minutes in a preview of the redesign and noped right back out of it. I really don't like it. Especially the way it totally ignores window width and artificially limits the column displaying posts on the main page.

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Linkapedia Apr 3, 2018 +29

having been stuck in card mode for days i just stopped using listnook entirely, it was clearly made for mobile and it was unusable to me.

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sanderson22 Apr 2, 2018 +36

i thought it was cool, but the scrolling doesn't work right on chrome. i had to switch back, it was too annoying.everytime i tried to scroll down, it would lag slightly, like on the popups that showed when you click a link, if you try to scroll and read the comments, it would lag a second before it started moving. or the same if you got to the bottom, it wouldlag as you are scrolling up.

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mxzf Apr 2, 2018 +21

That sounds like an artifact of their new JS-heavy design. I don't have high hopes for Listnook performance with all the JS bloat they're adding to the new redesign.

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synack Apr 2, 2018 +97

Why does the compact design take up the top third of the screen with a giant hero graphic? Doesn't seem very compact.

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kaihatsusha Apr 2, 2018 +43

Yeah, THIS is compact: https://i.imgur.com/FWSlWBH.jpg I want to turn off all the iPad styling bullshit and have a list of threads.

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likeafox Apr 2, 2018 +19

The banner height is set by community \- the home page doesn't have a banner. Presumably either the design team or a third party extension will provide an option to turn off community styling at some point.

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BenevolentCheese Apr 3, 2018 +12

>you can switch back and forth via a banner across the top It didn't work. I had to manually remove "new." from the URL. I switched back because the top bar is the primary way I navigate listnook. I go to a lot of individual sublistnooks and in the new design there is no easy way to do that. As long as that's not there, I won't be switching.

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-The_Blazer- Apr 2, 2018 +7

**Classic mode is an objective downgrade from the current view.** Several useful functions, such as save and report, are hidden behind a shitty drop-down menu when there would be plenty of space to align them horizontally like they are now. The pointless drop-down of death has also replaced the horizontal hot-new-rising options at the top of every sub, for some reason we now need two clicks to access anything that isn't 'hot', and new users won't even realize that other options exist unless they specifically go looking for them. One of the great things that made Listnook better than Facebook for me was that almost every function is immediately displayed on screen, so I can know everything I can do on a page without having to rummage through annoying menus. The update breaks that.

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kopuzz Apr 20, 2018 +12

youre forcing a shitty design as a default skin, sometimes i want to catch up on the days event without logging in and posting etc... can't do that now since the new design is soo f****** shit, Aron Swartz is literally turning in the grave, F*** YOU.

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Terl Apr 2, 2018 +25

Listnook on desktop feels like MySpace. Not sure that’s so great for the future. Everyone has taste, a few have good taste.

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Orange26 Apr 2, 2018 +81

It's hard to do a side-by-side(-by-side) comparison of the 3 modes, when you use different sub-listnooks for each of the screenshots.

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violetdaze Apr 2, 2018 +68

More welcoming?? I came here 5 years ago and the interface was, and still is, just fine. We know what your end game is here and rest assured you will lose many users because of it.

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ILoveWildlife Apr 2, 2018 +60

so... stop trying to turn this into a mobile app. It's a f****** website, not an app. Make the app look like it's for kids, keep the website clean of that shit.

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shwanky808 Apr 24, 2018 +10

The redesign SUCKS, and you guys passive aggressively include the "Go back" option which is a big creamy load of bs lies bursting all over your face. Not to mention all the nice, new, exciting, generous, data tracking ads. Thanks listnook. Thought we were friends.... Now, let me clarify why this new version totally SUCKS. 1) The subs menu at the top of the page is gone. Which alone is enough to annoy me. 2) The annoying scroll menu of subs on the side of the page now. 3) The preview window doesn't work on pretty much every sub (excluding most content on Home Page) and loading is extra lag. (Plugged In Connection) 4) The fact that I CAN'T GO BACK! Nor did I ever even Op't-in in the first place! What is wrong with you people?!

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hpr0nia Apr 2, 2018 +42

Is there a way to turn off the new idiotic profiles? I know you can still do overview but is there a way to set that as default?

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-Money- Apr 19, 2018 +9

My new Listnook is JACKED, it won't let me logout, switch back, go into preferences, nothing. Not only that but I seem to be limited to how often I can post, I just made a post in a different sublistnook and now it's making me wait 10 minutes to post this which hasn't happened to me since I was new on Listnook years ago.

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notanideologue Apr 2, 2018 +32

Let me keep my legacy profile up. The redesign has such small fonts I can't read it. And has less functionality than the legacy profile. I really can't understand anyone preferring the new profile. Unless it allows Listnook to spy on us more easily and that is the purpose of the redesign. Can you say "digg redesign". Can you say "Zuck is going broke and going to jail."

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da_chicken Apr 2, 2018 +53

Sorry, I still think you guys are wasting a *ton* of screen real estate with this design.

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fatpat Apr 27, 2018 +12

> Listnook can be extremely complex. It wasn't until you started implementing this shitshow. Glad we still have the option to go back to the non-shit design.

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VirtuosicElevator Apr 2, 2018 +72

Redesigning listnook? Changing the design that works and is not broken? For what exactly? Ad space? I don’t see how this could ever go wrong 🙄

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frickindeal Apr 3, 2018 +11

* Inline ads that are (barely) distinguishable from normal content. * Links are now the entire link box, which doesn't link to the *article* or *content*, but to the frigging *comments*. The actual content is a tiny link. Why? To keep people on listnook.com for as long as possible, and make sure they can show advertisers that they have interaction on the site. * Which leads to more "comments from users who haven't read the article", exactly the opposite of what listnook needs -- but listnook doesn't care about that. * To make listnook more facebook-like, more pinterest/tumblr-like, more like a phone experience, even on desktop, and thus (presumably) more palatable to today's internet user (read: millenials and women). Listnook's current demo is decidedly male; they'd like to see that change. * "Help" make mods jobs easier, and make designing a nice-looking sub easier (no need for CSS). It doesn't achieve that and likely never will, but that's the pretense. * It's to better monetize listnook, in short.

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Mytallest71 Apr 25, 2018 +8

The redesign is terrible for older readers. I liked that I could scroll through and decide on a story based on the tiny picture and the text, The text was large enough to read easily. Now I have to either scroll through annoying and useless pictures that I can’t close to find good news or on the Classic site, the text is smaller because of the box on the right-hand side. If we want to opt out, why can’t we have it just the way it was, a list of articles with small photos or videos we can choose to open WITHOUT the box on the right?

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DarthMewtwo Apr 2, 2018 +107

Thanks. Now my sublistnook is broken because you still haven't given us CSS, so our spoilers are hanging out in the open like a giant swinging d***. Thanks for nothing.

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Penguin_Out_Of_A_Zoo Apr 27, 2018 +14

I HATE this redesign. It looks so overly calculated to be sleek and trendy, when the old layout was perfectly serviceable and intuitive.

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musicobsession Apr 2, 2018 +13

Is this why comments just aren't showing up now in several sublistnooks? I can post and get responses but when I look at the thread, they're not there.

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opticscythe Apr 2, 2018 +42

Why redesign something that everyone already loves? Just so you can justify having a job?

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CharlieChapmanMD Apr 3, 2018 +20

How do I not become apart of this? I think it is pretty terrible and just want my old view back.

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stuntaneous Apr 2, 2018 +723

There's a bizarre number of positive comments in this thread.

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[deleted] Apr 3, 2018 +43

Someone recently posted a large post of how listnook is trying to Facebook itself to be more media friendly and less a little corner slice of the internet. Look at how many nsfw and niche subs have been banned. P*** sublistnooks are dwindling at a huge rate and even some sublistnooks for trading. I use to ponder through /r/beertrade to look at different types of local brews and custom craft beer across the country and bam shits banned now. Soon all p***, alcohol and gun related sublistnooks will be banned followed by NSFW death/injury/wtf images. Willing to bet a lot of money that theres going to be a pipeline feature down the line to link your social media or personal info to your account for public view. Ever broadening the celebrity and social influence of listnook. The way this site currently is is going to change drastically over the next year.

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Rubixsco Apr 2, 2018 +142

Yeah I got the redesign a few weeks ago and I changed back after a day. There just isn't as much info on sidebars and so much space is wasted. Also not a fan of the popout appearance of comments. It all seems like a push to make Listnook more ad-friendly. The only positive to it was that the completely blank sublistnooks looked a bit nicer. Otherwise it just looks worse imo.

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[deleted] Apr 3, 2018 +15

A *day*?? How did you manage that long? It was slower, wasted space, wouldn't scroll properly, and a hundred other things. I tried it for about half an hour. However long they keep 'classic' around for is how long I'll keep using this site before I decide to try quitting Listnook.

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KevinMcCallister Apr 2, 2018 +61

seriously -- no one f****** cares about this dumbass redesign. how the hell is it like near the top of the front page. where are my f****** cat memes

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hard_boiled_rooster Apr 20, 2018 +8

I really did not like the new design. It was way too bright with not enough information on a page. It drew attention to things that weren't important, vote counts, and hid important information, like replies. I switched back. It was not a pleasant experience.

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Melanjoly Apr 19, 2018 +9

Absolutely horrific redesign, the site is almost unusable it's so bad. It's almost as terrible as the official app, normally this kind of stuff wouldn't bother me but it's so unimaginable bad I'm close to giving up.

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sizlack Apr 4, 2018 +8

Couldn't you have hired a graphic designer for the redesign? This is even uglier than the old site. It still looks like it was designed by programmers. The colors are similar but more garish. Normal things, like viewing my previous posts, are hidden. Why does clicking on an image open the post instead of expand the image, like before? That worked well. Now you have to click on the tiny expand button. There are a ton of things like this that are just clunky. I'm a software engineer who's worked on multiple redesigns, so I'm normally forgiving of other sites being redesigned. I know you needed to redesign the old site. That was obvious. I'm not arguing for keeping that. But this redesign really looks and feels very clunky.

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[deleted] Apr 19, 2018 +14

It is absolutely hideous. If this is the new norm for listnook I'm out of here. Everything takes 5 f****** seconds to load

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Eabryt Apr 2, 2018 +14

Are you guys planning on adding sublistnook filtering back on? I browse /r/all more than I probably should, but it's one of the things keeping me from joining the redesign since I'm not able to block certain sublistnooks that I don't feel like seeing (for a variety of odd reasons)

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Bonezone420 Apr 3, 2018 +11

You know, there's a very good saying about not fixing things that aren't broken. Even the "classic" theme just does nothing but add annoying new design trends that get in the way of smooth, clean viewing. I just want to look at the content on the site, not be harassed by a giant overhead search bar that constantly feels the need to tell me that this is, still, Listnook. Or view a layout that's overly centralized with uncomfortable amounts of wasted space because people are nearly incapable of designing a layout anymore that isn't designed for mobile viewers.

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chrizbreck Apr 2, 2018 +10

"we are looking at you i.listnook.com" As someone who uses i.listnook.com on mobile thanks for not killing it off. I personally love the layout. The definition between posts is clear.

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phaylen May 19, 2018 +5

Just some user feedback: The redesign is absolutely awful. The interface is not intuitive. It feels sterile. I keep switching back to the old version, but it keeps defaulting to the new version. I know how disappointing it can be to invest so much time and effort in something you want people to love, so I'm sorry to sound critical or like one of those "I need to speak with the manager" folks who you can never make happy. Thanks for making the old site available to us who have had difficulty adapting to the new design.

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joridiculous Apr 25, 2018 +5

This redesign is hopeless. I mean the looks isnt that hopeless, the endless scrolling is idiotic, autoplay of gifs and videos is obnoxious, but the worst is its impossible to login.. [https://i.imgur.com/0qcfOJ8.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0qcfOJ8.jpg) This is what i get all the time, or some variation of something expired.

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PrinceKickster Apr 4, 2018 +7

Found a little clever trick \(well it's done commonly anyways but lol\) to let everyone test this out [https://new.listnook.com](https://new.listnook.com) # THANK ME LATER ***Use it while they still let you*** **Protip: To access beta of everything, try adding beta. or new. before it's domain lol. Mostly works haha**

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +122

Please don’t repeat digg guys

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falconear Apr 3, 2018 +22

Digg died in such a dramatic fashion that surely it would be easy to not repeat the same mistakes, right? I haven't seen the redesign yet but surely its evident not to gut the core functionality of the site?

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[deleted] Apr 19, 2018 +50

I'm using it now. This shit is ass. It's not a redesign. It's the first step into disguising an already\-obvious push into being more attractive to advertisers/the general public as a UI change.

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +52

Oh God, is this an April Fools joke?

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probablyhrenrai Apr 25, 2018 +4

As of today, it seems that "New Listnook" is the default on my browser, which is a problem; I personally find it *extremely* important that I be able to see the individual style of my various sublistnooks, a feature that "New Listnook" apparently cripples. ____ Is there a way to set the "Old Listnook" that I enjoy as a default over this worse-to-me "New Listnook"? It just seems absurd to me that I'd have to click "travel back to Old Listnook" each and every time that I open a new tab for a Listnook link, so I'm hoping that I'm missing something. ____ I appreciate why you've redesigned the site and how it's an improvement in many ways over the existing layout, but eliminating sublistnook styles entirely is just not for me.

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Blindman84 Apr 19, 2018 +6

I can't stand the redesign, I looked at it for a few minutes and had to leave... It was murder on the eyes, and hell I can't sign in to it! I HAVE to sign in to the old one anyways... I hope it never becomes mandatory.

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MiNombreEsBread Apr 20, 2018 +8

This redesign really sucks. I have sublistnooks I don't want to subscribe to, but I want to visit them via a shortcut. Why would you get rid of that? How does that even help?

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phrresehelp Apr 27, 2018 +9

I hate the redesign! It's soo AD HEAVY like very 4th post is an AD I understand the need for AD revenue but honestly this is bullshit. Are you going the way of DIGG?! Because that's how you go the way of DIGG.

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TheDataWhore Apr 2, 2018 +55

Is there a way to opt out of it, permanently?

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KevinMcCallister Apr 2, 2018 +14

Why would you use three different sublistnooks with three different custom themes to demonstrate the difference between card, classic, and compact lol. just use the same damn one so we can actually see how things change. jesus christ

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 +24

Can anyone confirm these changes to be falling right in line with this comment about the banning of several sublistnooks? https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/863xcj/new_addition_to_sitewide_rules_regarding_the_use/dw2rwy1 Listnook seems to be continuing to sell out its userbase in favor of more advertising and becoming a social network akin to Facebook.

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photonasty Apr 2, 2018 +11

I would be 110% okay with ads on Listnook. Seriously. Show me ads, based on the subs I subscribe to. Label them clearly as ads. I'm fine with that. I'd rather that than astroturfing, honestly.

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automated_reckoning May 6, 2018 +5

I swear to f****** god, if the piece of shit new site pops up one more time... Get it the f*** away. Thanks. Oh, I see. You've added something to preferences and enrolled me against my will. But even with it off, you add some bullshit to the top ribbon. /u/Amg137, any chance you guys can accept that I think this whole thing is a pile of shit and don't want to be involved?

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Crackmacs Apr 2, 2018 +25

Personally I'm not a fan of the re-design. I would like to keep everything exactly the same, now and forever. I've switched back to the classic view, and intend on keeping it there. Thank you for keeping that option. Hope you never do away with it.

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[deleted] May 21, 2018 +8

how do i perma disable the new theme? also how do i get it to stop "introducing" me to the new theme every time i log in or open a new tab?

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[deleted] Apr 24, 2018 +6

Really not a fan of the re-design guys. And it is extremely annoying when I have to keep going back to 'old' listnook every time I log in.

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godrestsinreason Apr 27, 2018 +8

Why do I have to change back to the old listnook literally every time I click a link? This is incredibly annoying.

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DarkLeviathan8 Apr 30, 2018 +6

Man I hate this new listnook. I really hate it. Seems like it's a downgrade. Everything is worse. So many things that are broken. I can't even look at my messages, for instance. And I can't find a way to revert to the old listnook anymore. Before, it would ask me if I wanted to go back, but now it never asks me anymore.

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Ananiujitha May 10, 2018 +6

This design gives me migraines. \-\- Some items change size on mouseover. Zooming can trigger migraines. It reliably triggers mine. \-\- The left side doesn't scroll with the rest of the page. Sheer between static/fixed and scrolling elements can trigger migraines. \-\- That's just what I've already emcountered.

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TrueConfessionBear Apr 2, 2018 +92

Which wannabe social media bullshit are you shoving up our ass this time?

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SmokeyMcBlunt Apr 20, 2018 +6

### PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT ### use old.listnook.com to go back to the oldschool non-shitbook/instashit layout. ### END OF PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT ###

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laughterline Apr 2, 2018 +4

The fact that you will be still able to use the old design is amazing. There are so many sites that have introduced terrible design choices which often make them unusable(I'm looking at you last.fm) and usually they never back down from them and force you to use the changed site. So props to you for that.

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[deleted] Apr 2, 2018 -5

cool beans dude, digging the compact design

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Draggonzz Apr 17, 2018 +4

Okay I got the new design and everything looks terrible. I tried to opt out and it doesn't work. I tried to log out of my account and I can't. Then I tried to post here and got an error message. In fact, I can't post anywhere using the desktop version. I just get an error saying 'This request to comment is invalid' The only way I could even post this was by using the mobile version via my phone. Essentially my listnook account on the desktop version is unusable now. Wtf is going on.

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fellatious_argument Apr 17, 2018 +6

I just got the new layout and holy shit it's f****** terrible. Is it designed for people that are legally blind? Before you can see like 20 posts on your screen at once and now you see half of one. Who thought this looked? good my elderly grandma that has never and will never use listnook?

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gahnc Apr 28, 2018 +7

Please STOP changing it to the new listnook design every three posts... it is f****** annoying. There is a reason I am not using the "new" design yet.

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generic_nonsense Apr 2, 2018 +7

I fully admit to not fully reading this post. But all I can think about after viewing the example images is that it looks so much like live journal. Soo... when are the Russians going to buy Listnook?

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movietalker Apr 2, 2018 +8

Im not even in the redesign but the site seems a bit borked now. all/rising only has 4 posts and comments arent working in multiple subs I frequent.

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fretit May 6, 2018 +4

How about you stop popping a window every few minutes asking to try the new design? Right in the middle of reading an article or watching a video, no less. This is becoming like the Windows 8.1 to 10 update. We'll say no every time, and eventually we'll have a permanent switch.

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RichardMcNixon May 3, 2018 +4

you're not gaining any real estate in the new version and now you're losing a large portion of the side view. (yes, you can minimize it) I don't feel the site needs a redesign, just a cleaning up. The compact / classic / card addition is nice, but adding an extra click to sort things or to get to your other subs is quite annoying. I feel like you're making the user experience more complicated and that's the wrong direction to be going. For any site.

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kabutogawa Apr 3, 2018 +17

Can we get rid of the ads that are designed to look like listnook posts? Just give us ads. Don’t disguise them as fake posts.

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Masenkoe Apr 28, 2018 +5

God I hate the new design. Please tell me you aren't planning on phasing out the old site. If so, I'll be forced to leave which would be awful.

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