She was afraid of him and they made her room with him on the cruise.
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EyCeeDedPpl5 days ago
+3993
From an article someone posted here, Tim has an ankle monitor and was required to stay with his uncle. That was just amended so he could go hangout with his dad at his dads landscaping business.
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MadmanMaddox5 days ago
+2512
JFC It's like the affluenza asshat all over again.
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splanks5 days ago
+595
which of the many?
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SarryK5 days ago
+714
the one who got a suspiciously light punishment
^(jk, that doesn‘t help either)
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X-Kami_Dono-X5 days ago
+307
The little shit from Texas. Ethan Couch and it was “affluenza”. He had priors and should have never been given the deal he had.
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Pixel_Knight5 days ago
+107
The judge was clear as day paid off. He should have been given a sentence as long as the one Couch deserved.
Which can also apply to the Jesse Butler case in Oklahoma.
You know, the serial rapist Jesse Butler who put a girl in the hospital for surgery and yet only got community service. That rapist named Jesse Butler.
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EyCeeDedPpl5 days ago
+612
Are you talking about “the Rapist” Jesse Mack Butler? Or the other one Brock “the Rapist” Turner? So many “The Rapists” with judges who let them off easy because “boys will be boys” bullshit.
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M4DM1ND5 days ago
+384
You mean rapist Brock Allen Turner who has been going around as Allen "the Rapist" Turner recently because he couldn't handle his brand recognition?
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aca6895 days ago
+275
Same POS dad who banned the mom from coming to the funeral.
Edit: wrong dad
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sjtfly5 days ago
+221
No, that's the other dad. The father of the victim is the one that allegedly didn't allow the mom to be at the funeral (though this seems to be disputed by others). The father of the killer is the one with the landscaping business.
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buttercupcake235 days ago
+3899
Typical parents siding with the male child and assuming he can do no wrong, she's overreacting and dramatic for attention, and if he does the victim was at fault for seducing him...etc. Sickening. Those parents should be in jail with him.
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procrastinatorsuprem5 days ago
+3612
She didn't want to go on the cruise. Her boyfriend and his family were very worried for her. As soon as it happened they said look at the step brother. This was such common knowledge her boyfriend's father knew it.
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HonestDespot5 days ago
+2043
Let down by everyone who was supposed to care for her.
Spent her last moments being murdered by the person she was fearful to be around.
Horrible.
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Ki-to-Life-50545 days ago
+859
Spent her last days in fear for her life and getting gaslit.
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gardentwined5 days ago
+445
Well apparently the boyfriends family cared, but rhey can only do so much.
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KaputtEqu1pment5 days ago
+835
There's no way the parents can feign ignorance like that. I wouldn't be surprised if there was even more weird family stuff going on there.
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saintash5 days ago
+674
It's sickening how common parents don't like one of their kids. And see them as the problem in all situations. My stepmom will use any excuse to turn a problem as something I did or am doing to her.
My least horrible story, we had a guest over once. And my stepmom was cutting up strawberries for something. And she noticed her pile was smaller than when she left it a few minutes earlier. and I was getting screemed at for eating the ingredient. Behind her while she was screaming, at me my sister was munching on the f****** strawberries.
The family friend pointed out. It's not the kid you're yelling at, It's the other one. My stepmom turned around and saw. That I was innocent of this crime. Turned right back at me and continued to scream at me for f****** eating the strawberries.
No apologies. No turning around and yelling at the kid commitmenting the crime. Just continuing to scream at me because she doesn't like me. And me being there while she was mad was all the excuse she needed to just let lose.
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amscraylane5 days ago
+310
And then the kids get wise to who the parents prefer.
I have a whole lot of being blamed for strawberry crime in my life too.
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Ragnarok3141595 days ago
+244
When I joined the army, it never felt right. Always asked myself why did I do this. After chatting with a bunch of other dudes in basic training a lot of us had similar strawberry stories.
So many of us joined just to leave. There was no guilt in going back, no “you have to come help us!”, we were gone and there was nothing anyone could do.
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Complex-Quantity76945 days ago
+134
I joined the Air Force to escape as well. I never went back.
I also have plenty of strawberry crimes in my past.
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Ragnarok3141595 days ago
+105
I remember telling my mom I am leaving for the army the day before was shipping out and she just shrugged and told me she is selling all my stuff.
And she did just that.
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Complex-Quantity76945 days ago
+134
Nearly the same story. Not much has changed either. I’ve since had a moderately interesting and successful (in a normal guy way) life that I can honestly say I made happen on my own with help from not a single one of them. I live an unexciting, even boring life. Yet, I am treated kinda like a criminal and undeniably different than everyone else in my family. I blamed myself for a long time, until life gave me custody of my daughter when she was a little girl, and I quickly found that the dislike of me was genetically passed down to my little girl. She did nothing to them. She was just a little girl. I was finally able to realize then that at least it wasn’t me. Their cruelty set me free. There’s some irony there I suppose.
I’ve been more or less ok ever since, with some saltiness sprinkled in here and there. Mostly around Christmas or when I see nice families on tv or in movies. My daughter doesn’t care because none of them have ever been in her life anyway. I try my best to be extra emotionally supportive in every way for her so she doesn’t feel alone or sad.
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Dirty_Commie_Jesus5 days ago
+193
I recognize this dynamic as a 9-year-old being woken up in the middle of the night to be accused of eating a can of chili beans that I "stole" from the pantry in the house that I lived in. I'm nine I don't want beans. It's obviously my mother, your wife.
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AccomplishedToe22175 days ago
+68
This is scary accurate and recognizable :( for me it was literally a cherry on a cake. Stood there all night in the stair hallway with my arms up while he checked on me. Cant remember going back to bed that night. Think I was 8
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RetiredRover9065 days ago
+42
Yup. My example was her car keys. They were missing and obviously that meant I had stolen them. She found them in her coat pocket. I have many more such stories.
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TheGlassHammer5 days ago
+28
I’m sorry that happened. You deserved better. Hopefully you are out of there.
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CharcoalGreyWolf5 days ago
+105
If I were a guest, I would actually now say “This makes me uncomfortable; I think it’s time I left”.
I think it’s the only thing I could do to call that kind of behavior out against the person exhibiting it.
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HowTingz5 days ago
+165
Oh no, THAT just makes it the kid's fault that you left.
"Had you been watching MY daughter/your little sister, she wouldn't have eaten the strawberries! Great, now our guest's gone because you can't f****** pay attention you \*insert expletive or insecurity here"
My ex friend and I would argue all the time over how she treated her older daughter vs how she treated her son from her husband. The last straw was her telling me to go ahead and f*** her daughter since I clearly want to, all because I helped her tune out and ignore her birther and pay attention to me while I helped her with her homework instead of sitting quietly while her birther got on her ass for not understanding it.
When I got up to leave she tried to blame her for that, but I was like I'm leaving to stop myself from putting my hands on you. First thing her daughter did when she graduated was go to a University in Jamaica and stayed there with her dad. Doesn't even call them.
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saintash5 days ago
+56
Yeah, no one really ever did anything including c p.s.
It was an extreme open secret about what my stepmom was doing to me and my other siblings. Specifically, my older siblings, not my younger ones.
and when, nothing changes after you're beaten with a dust broom handle. With large visible bruises. And all she gets is a talking to. You kinda don't go back and ask for more help.
A lot of the adults were just uncomfortable.And trying to play down her rections when things escalated.
I like to think it'd be better now in the two thousand twenties.When this was happening to me was the nineties.
But like part of the reason I feel like I also didn't get support is because she always played it like I was the worst person in existence.Who was making her life Hell.So I had it coming.
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heyjajas5 days ago
+53
Don't leave. Its not making it easier on abused kids when no one is around to witness. Its understandable, but it just makes it easier for the abuser to gaslight the victims when there is never one around to call them out.
Its a tremendous help to have people who witnessed that behaviour, talk with them about it afterwards, to understand that this is not normal. Most adults fail in that regard because they just turn away when they get slightly uncomfortable and leave you alone in the mess.
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buttercupcake235 days ago
+25
Christ what a monstrous woman. I am so sorry you had to endure that. What did the family friend say at that?
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agreensandcastle5 days ago
+231
I am looking forward to what they charge the parents with. His case isn’t interesting. But charging the parents will make sure her justice is fully received.
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peon25 days ago
+68
Maybe a dumb question but when something like this happens in international waters what laws apply, the country the ship came from? Is going to? Is closest to?
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Lucas_Steinwalker5 days ago
+64
Shh didn’t you see the parents state that this is deeply painful and complex for them?
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Cute-Aardvark52915 days ago
+36
*deeply complex*
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hostile655 days ago
+30
What horrible parents she had. I feel so bad for her.
Her boyfriend and his family must feel so horrible
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buttercupcake235 days ago
+98
Jesus that's horrifying. Jail for ALL INVOLVED. Those f****** parents failed this child and deserve to be in JAIL
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Daisy23456785 days ago
+245
Daughters of "boy moms" know this pain so well. My brother let his friends drug and SA me when we were teens and to this day I haven't told her because I know she would never believe me, and would blame me. But my brother can do no wrong, ever, in her eyes.
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buttercupcake235 days ago
+117
Yup. Women with this lived experience or people who have observed this are chiming in and yet I still have comments replying to me acting like this never happens lol.
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Kthulhu425 days ago
+49
Even those who don't have horrifying stories like the poster above, but grew up knowing that they weren't cared for or prioritised. Decades of hearing you aren't the golden child. For my mother it was that girls always have to cook and clean and keep their rooms tidy, while the boys could do.. whatever the f*** they wanted. Boys were *special*.
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YourMothersButtox5 days ago
+39
Oh like the rapist Brock Allen Turner who is son of Dan Turner who once famously said his son shouldn’t be castigated for “20 minutes of action”?
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SurreptitiousSyrup5 days ago
+4457
More information https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdfl/pr/titusville-teen-charged-adult-killing-stepsister-cruise-ship
> T.H. was initially charged as a juvenile by information on Feb. 2. The case remained sealed until U.S. District Judge Beth Bloom ordered it transferred for adult prosecution.
> T.H. is charged with murder in the first degree and aggravated sexual abuse. If convicted, Defendant faces a maximum penalty of life in prison.
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Current-Anybody93315 days ago
+982
T.H. is Timothy Hudson
https://apnews.com/article/cruise-ship-florida-stepbrother-stepsister-375e51de4c35c1ec2069b24cd84de6a1
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Catona5 days ago
+664
“At the same time, we are deeply troubled that, despite the seriousness of the charges, he has not been taken into custody."
So wait. If he is not currently in custody then where is he staying? It can't possibly be in their house.
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Hinaiichigo5 days ago
+630
Hes staying with his uncle. The court order was recently amended so he could go spend time with his biological father at his landscaping business a few times per week. What a joke.
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geekyheart2255 days ago
+303
Hopefully that will be rescinded and he will be taken into custody now that he's being charged as an adult
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EmpyreanMelanin5 days ago
+124
What the f***.
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ClownfishSoup5 days ago
+252
He is effectively out on bail in the custody of his Uncle, and monitored by GPS.
I'm guessing at 16/17 he is not a flight risk and his uncle has promised to keep an eye on him.
If he doesn't show up at his trial a warrant for his arrest will be issued. He has no resources and no way to run away. Plus his assault and murder was specifically targeted so the I guess the public is in no immediate harm from him.
Anway, f*** that POS. I hope he dies in prison.
I don't know why, but that photo of her with her braces just devastates me (I have two 18 year olds) I think it's the braces... she's 18, but like a kid she has braces on to fix her teeth. The braces are a thing to help your future, something he stole from her. This just makes me so sad and angry.
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ugly_dog_5 days ago
+818
insane that they're hiding his name and face while showing the victim's
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Hopeful_Method51755 days ago
+631
Especially insane that he hasn’t even been taken into custody yet. He’s living with his uncle with a monitoring bracelet and was even given release to go work with his biological father at his landscaping business. Even his own mother and stepfather are releasing statements stating they don’t understand why this little monster isn’t in custody yet.
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RAF20183365 days ago
+328
Because they’re probably buddies with the police. My cousin was killed by a drunk driver on his bike. Dude was absolutely hammered and didn’t realize he had hit anyone. The only reason he was arrested was because a witness called 911 and told them he’s following the guy and they better get there before he got to him. He drove 30 miles on the wrong side of the road with multiple calls to 911 of a wrong way driver. Didn’t get his license suspended, $5000 bond, his plea agreement that he signed was for 15 years, judge cut it down to 7 out at 4.5 on good behavior, with one year already served even though he wasn’t even in custody.
Dude was a businessman who frequently had lunches with the local PD. They’re all corrupt
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Timely_Influence83925 days ago
+161
Corruption is America's pastime.
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FillFrontFloor5 days ago
+2332
Glad they did this. There were two girls in Mexico that murdered their "friend" and send the video to her mom. One got 2 years and the other didn't even get jailed time just conditional release because they didn't get tried as adults.
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12IQBeachBoysFangirl5 days ago
+2106
The girls were ordered to pay 5,600 pesos (around $320) to the victim's family. The poor mother publicly rejected this offer and stated that it wasn't even enough to cover the 30,000 pesos ($1,733) in funeral expenses for her daughter.
That poor girl in the video, she obviously trusted them. They blindfold her and tell her to wait "for the big surprise" before they just smirk and stare while they strangle her.
I don't get how a prosecutor can look at that video and think that the sentences given to them was just. Different country, different laws I know, but what the f*** man.
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TimTom89215 days ago
+1177
If I'm that child's parent I see the justice system fail their child like it did, you can I bet I'd make it my life's work to make those girls lives a living hell both figuratively and literally.
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Sasquatchjc455 days ago
+800
Shit, in Mexico? Id have paid the cartel whatever it took.
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seejur5 days ago
+72
I think most of the time it depends, because probably that mother also has responsibilities toward her other children that are alive and need her support in life.
But if that's me, as soon as my other kids are independent and well? Yup, I would go down that road
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wolfgang7845 days ago
+29
Like that woman somewhere in south america whose kid was brutally murdered by the cartel and the police/govt refused to do anything because it was the cartel and told her to drop it.
She flipped her life around and dedicated it to hunting down each of the people at all related to her kids death and either personally killed them or directly led to their arrests.
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haha_squirrel5 days ago
+75
Does anybody know the names in this case/have a post? Would be interested to read up on it.
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frank_datank_5 days ago
+173
That’s seriously messed up.
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monkey_monkey_monkey5 days ago
+5237
This is such a horrific crime. If statements that she was afraid of him and had expressed that to the adults, someone needs to take a hard look at the adults. If they knowingly put her at risk, they should be charged with neglect.
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Equivalent-Cicada1655 days ago
+2647
What really bothers me is that in the beginning, her father was defending the stepson. Too often people remarry and automatically try to unjustly protect the new spouse/family of the new spouse in order to stay in their good graces. It disgusts me.
This poor girl was thrown to the wolves
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monkey_monkey_monkey5 days ago
+1470
Reading what little I have about the case makes the father sound pretty bad. Apparently left his first wife for the 15 y.o. babysitter, actively alienated the bio mother.
It sounded like he doesn't have the ability to put his daughter's needs ahead of his own and I suspect that's likely the case here. Wanted a vacation and time with wife and didn't care that he was putting his daughter in the room alone with someone she was scared of.
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Queasy_Donkey56855 days ago
+1092
He's the kinda guy that bangs the 15yr old babysitter. He gives zero fucks about women, including his own daughter.
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raquibalboa5 days ago
+527
How is he not in jail for being involved with a minor??!
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thehelsabot5 days ago
+962
The same way the president and his friends aren’t in jail for banging minors
Patriarchy
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djlinda5 days ago
+690
Raping* minors
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skeezycheezes5 days ago
+217
I do not understand why we are STILL having to correct people on proper wording.
These people are f****** rapists. Wtf.
Thank you for doing the necessary correction. I get so f****** tired of doing it
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McNasty4205 days ago
+556
The whole family was defending the stepson. And they barely know him! These people have only been married like 8 months
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AngelSucked5 days ago
+599
Including HER GRANDPARENTS WHO WERE ON THE SHIP, TOO! They had their own cabin, she could have slept in there.
Her own grandparents have said, almost literally, "well, she had a good life, oh well."
The pix of the little creep going to court make me sick -- in his little camo jacket with his "dark thin blue line" hat with the American flag.
Good on that judge. I also just read the Feds are interested in charging him, too.
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McNasty4205 days ago
+278
The grandparents lied to the media about him. They said she wasn't sexually assaulted.
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Muted-Move-93605 days ago
+184
EIGHT MONTHS!?!?!?! Christ on the cross... That poor girl.
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susandeyvyjones5 days ago
+34
When the story broke there were a bunch of articles about how they were the best blended family and they all loved each other so much.
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kombitcha4205 days ago
+145
Honestly i empathize with this poor girl so much. She could have been me. She was failed and it’s breaking my heart.
Her family is disgusting. She deserved better
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Gnd_flpd5 days ago
+135
Sometimes trying to "blend" family can go really, really, bad. Much like this tragic avoidable situation here.
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WienerRetrievers5 days ago
+134
That is one of many reasons my dad refused to date after mom gave him the boot. He was worried he would make wrong decisions and us kids would suffer. Once we were all adults I tried to get him to date, and he wouldn't budge on the subject. Us kids had to come first. Decades later I tried again. He said if he gets involved with someone, she'll get too much of his savings and there wont be enough to give us kids a big boost in life, like replacing our tiny old cars, or helping our kids through college/uni. So he has besties where they all help eachother get groceries, cook holiday meals, and go bananas for eachothers grandkids. He pinches his pennies so he can keep adding to his savings. There is plenty, we keep telling him he needs to have some enjoyment in life, so see a movie, a play, visit us ffs! Nope, wants to save save save as he has 6 grandkids. Stubborn old fart lol But he's always been there for us and we never felt replaced or less important.
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Dj_Donkey5 days ago
+58
Wow, he sounds like a truly great father.
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Equivalent-Cicada1655 days ago
+37
What a wonderful father you have! My late grandfather was similar. He was widowed young due to my grandmother's long illness. When several years passed, people tried to set him up, but he refused, telling them he wasn't ready. He did not want a person who could come in between him and my dad, aunts and uncles.
Like you with your father, my aunts tried to get him to date when everyone grew up, but he just wasn't interested. By then I think he was comfortable with his solitude. Guess it's hard to be lonely when you're surrounded by friends and family! I miss him
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Mamasan-5 days ago
+173
I’m a blended family with different sexed kids and have made sure they have their own rooms and if I at ANY moment thought there was fishy business going on I’d do something about it. AND full on siblings do terrible shit to one another. DUGGERS
I can’t believe these people are being told by their own child that something weird is happening and they do nothing.
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McNasty4205 days ago
+108
Her ex boyfriend's DAD told Anna's dad about the attempted sexual assault that was witnessed on Facetime. Nothing.
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MissVnKY5 days ago
+52
That’s good. All those sick freaks moved into her house and yet-SHE ended up in a “converted” dining room with no doors
🤔🤔
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chokokhan5 days ago
+24
Cinderella is a famous story for a reason. Parents remarrying evil step families is not new.
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FiveUpsideDown5 days ago
+396
I think the step-mother needs to be charged with neglect. According to her, her son needed medication that she forgot to give him.
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Medivacs_are_OP5 days ago
+466
I'm not aware of any medication that makes someone not-a-rapist...
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AngelSucked5 days ago
+439
She said it's his ADHD meds.
lol
When I very occasionally forget my Adderall, I just had a harder day focusing. I don't murder my coworkrs or spouse.
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CrazyPlantLady1435 days ago
+139
i just wanted to add that i also do not murder anyone when i forget my adderall.
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drumbanger915 days ago
+86
There are dozens of us!
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lividresonance5 days ago
+65
My gf takes adhd medication daily and when she runs out or forgets to take it she also does not r*** or murder anyone.
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strawberrycreamdrpep5 days ago
+156
Incredibly likely she didn't "forget" to give him medication. He didn't want to take it and she just went with it.
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Possible-Courage37715 days ago
+2186
her dad and stepmother failed her. she didn't even have a bedroom at their house. she had the dining room with a sheet. she had no privacy from this monster. and they knew the kids had past issues and still made them share a room on the cruise.
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Any-Log-67065 days ago
+1191
Let’s also add her paternal grandparents who joined them on the cruise, knew about him, were playing bingo when her body was found, and then defended him.
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twenty-onesavage5 days ago
+859
What the f*** is wrong with every single one of these people? This girl was robbed of her life and failed by everyone. Horrible
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alaysian5 days ago
+438
The fact that its the whole family that is fucked up is probably the least surprising thing about this to me. Far too many times I've met someone's parents and gone "Oh, that's why they are fucked up". Seems more rare to me than someone spontaneously being a bad apple.
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LilyLils155 days ago
+130
Absolutely. As a doctor I have so much empathy for my patients who struggle with drugs and mental health issues because people don’t just randomly choose that for themselves. These people always have horrible stories to tell about their childhood and adolescence that it’s no mystery at all why they struggle.
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xgorgeoustormx5 days ago
+78
I’ll bet she looks and has mannerisms of her mother, so they were punishing her for existing.
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ArcticEdda5 days ago
+42
Girls’ lives are worth nothing to these people. They are just there to be used and thrown away. But protect the men and boys, always. 🙄
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bagkingz5 days ago
+197
So they can afford to go on a cruise but not give their child her own bedroom? Wow
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kelsobjammin5 days ago
+116
They prioritized it exactly how they wanted. Neglect for sure. Throw the parents under the jail next to the son.
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Glibasme5 days ago
+180
OMG! That's so horrible and sad. She was so close to getting out of there. That poor girl. My heart breaks for her.
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External125 days ago
+73
Should have held off a couple vacations to build her a room or something.
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PrestigiousSeat765 days ago
+986
The parents should be charged with crimes as well. F****** assholes. They knew he was fucked up in the head, they knew she was scared of him. F****** horrible people.
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Dry-Yak52775 days ago
+1209
Iirc the family in this case is extremely fucked up.
When Anna was a baby Anna’s father cheated on Anna’s mother with an underage babysitter (15 year old iirc) and later married that babysitter when she was barely legal. Anna’s biological mother struggled with addiction issues that were worsened by her partner abusing/having an affair with a teenager while she was post partum, and she still has them today, so she hasn’t had custody of Anna since. Anna was basically raised by the new wife who acted as a surrogate mother to her (even tho the new wife was basically a victim of grooming)
Years later the new wife and Anna’s father break up and because the new wife wasn’t Anna’s biological mom, Anna’s dad moved her in with the new new wife (mother of the demon who killed her) where she didn’t even have a room to herself and where the son basically tormented Anna. Anna was terrified of him but they still made her room with him despite them knowing this and them not even being related in the first place.
The only “family” advocating for Anna in this fight are the second wife (who raised Anna) and her family. Anna’s biological mom has spoken out about being left in the dark about the situation but she’s not exactly in an emotionally stable or mentally healthy place so she hasn’t been active in this fight at all. I’m not sure if she had much of a relationship with Anna to begin with but I think that’s partially because Anna’s father has kept her away from her- they even said they wouldn’t let her attend the funeral.
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FerretsAreFun5 days ago
+381
This adds a huge piece of this puzzle that I felt like was missing.
In the beginning it seemed like most information about her family leaned heavily in favour of the stepbrother. Now I know why.
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SarryK5 days ago
+181
Just what I‘ve thought. Tormented by a monster and surrounded by enablers who, being adults and her guardians, had immense power over her.
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RedoftheEvilDead5 days ago
+47
That explains why all the media is saying her and her stepbrother were "two peas in a pod" while her boyfriend said she was terrified of him. Sounds like all the adults in her life decided that since her stepbrother was obsessed with her she needed to be around him always to entertain that obsession. As soon s she decided to say no she was murdered for it. I really hope there are some charges brought up against the adults here too, but i doubt there will be.
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wip30ut5 days ago
+76
very sad.... sometimes you hear stories of kids who are runaways and you wish they could be reunited with their families. But in Anna's case you wish she had just dropped of high school at 18 and just enlisted to get away from her messed up family!
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littlemachina5 days ago
+81
Punt that dad into the sun along with the stepdemon.
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evenstar405 days ago
+109
Oh my god.....
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GrackleFan6665 days ago
+63
Also, the new new wife (2nd wife?) That raised her... some people did a deep dive on her (since she has stayed out of the media) and found out that the 2nd wife's dad was guilty of SA crimes against children. She may have never been out of harms way at no point.
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fictionallymarried5 days ago
+2644
This case is so awful, the signs were there that he made her uncomfortable. She shouldn't have been made to bunk with him, there was the grandparents' cabin... Shame on those who didn't listen to her.
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PuzzledStreet5 days ago
+730
IIRC it wasn't even just signs, it had been verbally expressed to them!
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+115
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snollygoster15 days ago
+47
They'll also sit there and allow older siblings to suffer abuse because "oh you're supposed to be the mature one".
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Ki-to-Life-50545 days ago
+983
They should also be charged.
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Stygma5 days ago
+791
There's no way they didn't know. This is some golden child "He's such a sweet boy!" type bullshit. Lock away every single piece of shit that enabled him.
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Lopsided_Tiger_02965 days ago
+36
I really hope not but they might’ve not believed her and took his side. I hope they feel guilty for the rest of their lives
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laoganma_enima5 days ago
+241
Agree. For sure some “that’s just how he is, ignore him” energy.
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KTKittentoes5 days ago
+188
“He just needs to grow up a little —boys mature slower, you know—and meet the right girl.”
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machama5 days ago
+107
"Boys will be boys" bull shit.
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BroughtBagLunchSmart5 days ago
+116
I really want to know about how college football potential before we determine if he should be held accountable for this crime.
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BookusWorkus5 days ago
+69
There's also a chance he could be a collegiate swimmer.
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saintash5 days ago
+87
So many people just dont want to know.
I don't know why, So many adults are primed to think that children are one hundred percent Lying little fucks who are looking to cause trouble. Rather then people need in protection begging for help and not getting any.
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tertain5 days ago
+75
I mean, the stepbrother here is a lying little f*** psychopath. So that wasn’t wrong. They just believed the wrong one.
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Dark-Faery5 days ago
+97
I don't understand her sharing with the boys, even if she wasn't afraid of him she should not have been sharing a cabin with teenage boys, especially when one is a stepbrother.
That family seemed so shady when it first happened. That poor girl
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Aggravating_Firehead5 days ago
+3238
F****** hell. That poor girl. They had said in the news that her friends and family knew she was afraid of him :( another little girl who wasn't protected what the f***
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Any-Log-67065 days ago
+967
I saw an interview with her paternal grandparents. They knew and still defended him. Her dad knew and stuck them together in a separate room on the boat. They all (dad, stepmom, paternal grandparents) should go to jail also for negligence - especially to add to it they knew she was missing, but they were too busy gambling while on that cruise ship.
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Lost_Madness5 days ago
+332
I couldn't imagine knowing my kid was missing and not panicking like all hell. Pure insanity.
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JohnBrownOH5 days ago
+218
I can't rest if my cat is hiding in a new spot in the house. Don't get me wrong, my cat is pretty awesome, but she's not a kid.
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Tomi97_origin5 days ago
+99
See that's the difference. You care about your cat.
If you give a mouse to snake you don't start to wonder where the mouse is once it disappears.
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Islandmov3s5 days ago
+19
Damn. Hit the nail on the f****** head
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McNasty4205 days ago
+191
The grandparents coming out and basically saying “well, she had a good run” is WILD
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Any-Log-67065 days ago
+98
Seriously, I wouldn’t even say that to a stranger who lost their pet. Horrible people, if we can call them that.
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McNasty4205 days ago
+97
The grandparents had only known him for a year. These people have only been married for like 12 months. I'm not getting this.
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BookQueen135 days ago
+23
Yeah this whole thing is absolutely bizarre. The way the family is reacting is nuts.
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Gloomy_Macaron_1365 days ago
+75
Where I live we sometimes say that "[Person] had a good life" but that's only if the said person dying is due to old age.
A girl not even in her twenties? The f*** good run, she barely even started to live at all
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Tyrrox5 days ago
+1075
They originally charged him as a juvenile but it seems like he planned to r*** and kill her. Lock him up for life, he's lost the right to be free ever again.
Edit: word change to make it sound less weird. ADHD brain needs to tinker.
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YomiKuzuki5 days ago
+150
This poor girl was failed by everyone around her.
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Silvermoon4245 days ago
+599
So many women and girls are needlessly harmed and even killed every single day because nobody took their plight seriously. As a woman myself, it’s deeply distressing to see this happen over and OVER again with no end in sight.
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+74
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saintash5 days ago
+24
It's so infuriating how many of these stories exist of the new family matters more than the child you brought into this world.
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Any-Log-67065 days ago
+16
Wasn’t the girl’s father was the one who took them on a cruise with the stepmom and it was her mom who was concerned? Even the grandparents knew and they were on the same cruise. When she was “missing” they were busy playing bingo and still defended their step grandson after the incident.
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Drak_is_Right5 days ago
+51
And usually its close family that does it (including spouse/bf in close family).
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Silvermoon4245 days ago
+168
What an absolute tragedy. She had her whole life ahead of her and it was stolen from her in a completely preventable way. May she rest in peace.
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Based-Goddess5 days ago
+481
Parents need to be charged too if they knew he was molesting her. We absolutely do not do nearly enough to protect girls and women in this world.
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Any-Log-67065 days ago
+164
Absolutely. They ignored her (dad and stepmom). Please add the grandparents who likely also knew and then when she was missing they were too busy playing bingo while on the same cruise.
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ThatPhatKid_CanDraw5 days ago
+123
The father apparently cheated on his last wife with an underage babysitter that he married when legal, so....
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Any-Log-67065 days ago
+45
Forgot that detail about what a human waste that person is.
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SeaWitch10315 days ago
+171
I’ve never been able together past the parents putting her in the same cabin as the killer. They weren’t siblings, they hadn’t known each other that long.
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RedVelvetCake4255 days ago
+65
Yeah, it’s insane. Whenever I visited/traveled with my family and there wasn’t enough space for me to have my own room, I would be rooming with my parents, even as a grown adult. What I don’t get is why her parents didn’t just have her room with them. Cruise staterooms are cramped but it is doable.
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HausDePotat5 days ago
+107
Because the adults cared more about getting to have sex than they cared about her life. That’s really what it boils down to. They wanted their fun vacation, and she’s the one that paid for it.
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spidersprinkles5 days ago
+46
Also they were 18 and 16. Old enough to have their own rooms, at least for thr sake of some privacy. Never mind the fact she had expressed she was scared of him. Wtf.
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wip30ut5 days ago
+203
anybody think it's hellla weird to ask a teen girl to room with her stepbrother? What were the parents thinking?! The whole family seems to have boundary issues.
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HIM_Darling5 days ago
+186
IIRC the cruise lines don't even allow it. There must be someone 21 or older in every room unless its a married couple under 21. So the parents had to have lied and said one of them was staying in the room and then switched room keys with one of the kids.
To me that makes them accessories, especially if Anna's boyfriend(and his father) are willing to testify that the dad and/or stepmom knew of inappropriate behavior going on.
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Ill-Parking-15775 days ago
+30
In addition, if he had an adult’s key card, there’s the possibility he could have been purchasing alcohol from negligent staff and/or paying them off.
Obviously this is just speculation, but something that crossed my mind.
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+389
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Any-Log-67065 days ago
+158
Interesting all those folks looking for her while her grandparents were busy playing bingo. Such injustice for her.
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hirudoredo5 days ago
+59
it does warm my heart just the slightest bit that so many strangers cared enough to take time out of their vacations / work (as in cruise ship employees) to search for her hoping it was a tragic accident instead of easily avoidable murder.
still doesn't bring back this poor girl or set things right, but at least there's that.
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latentnomrn5 days ago
+115
The details in the DOJ report are absolutely sickening. To think this happened in a cabin shared by family members while everyone else was probably asleep just a few feet away is terrifying. If he’s convicted, life in prison is the only sentence that fits the level of betrayal and violence described here.
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Comprehensive_Ant9845 days ago
+75
I don’t think there’s a woman alive who heard this story when it first broke and didn’t immediately know exactly what had happened to that poor girl. So awful and so unnecessary.
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ScoutsterReturns5 days ago
+657
>The DOJ alleged the stepbrother "sexually assaulted and intentionally killed" Kepner. The Florida high school senior died from mechanical asphyxiation, officials said. The boy was initially charged as a juvenile, prosecutors said. He's now been indicted as an adult by a federal grand jury on charges of first-degree murder and aggravated sexual abuse.
This story is so sad, her poor family. I'm glad he's being charged as an adult.
edit: I hadn't read that there were issues known to the family so to the extent they were not vigilant enough that's horrible.
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TooObsessedWithOtoge5 days ago
+242
I don’t feel empathy for the family. They knew he was a problem and made her deeply uncomfortable yet THEY forced this situation and have said things trying to cover up for the stepbrother.
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hopefoolness5 days ago
+282
sounds like her "poor family" are completely to blame for this, actually. I hope her parents never know peace for what they allowed to happen to her
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ScissorMeeTimbers5 days ago
+144
Send him and the parents to jail forever. They all failef
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izwald885 days ago
+43
So they announced this but have yet to take him into custody? Are they just giving the step father time to murder him, or what?
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Smooth_Ad_51785 days ago
+49
Castrate and put him away for life
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Ttm-o5 days ago
+41
This took forever. Holy shit. Also, her parents have failed her.
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pineapplepredator5 days ago
+276
We don’t look at sibling sex abuse enough. Obviously this has another huge layer but the sex abuse and frankly any sibling abuse should be taken more seriously and if it had been here it may have been understood as a sign.
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Madame_Arcati5 days ago
+116
Sibling violence is ignored, and the victims left to fend for themselves as they will. If you try to ask for help, people just try their best to ignore you, or, even worse, to blame you.
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TerrifiedJelly5 days ago
+148
Given the amount of incest p***, I bet it occurs much more frequently than we would assume. Absolutely horrendous
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hirudoredo5 days ago
+69
the real stupid thing about the incest p*** is that it's purely the result of capitalism/marketing. There's a reason why most of what makes it "hello stepsister" (because "sister" would get it banned) is the dialogue at the beginning and maybe the end, with the middle just being regular p***. Producers figured out a long time ago that they could catch two cats with one bag by putting out the generic p*** most people are looking for and then slapping some "Taboo" shit at the beginning and in the keywords to attract the fetishists, who are often willing to spend more $$$ to access their f***** and kinks.
(I know about this shit because I work in an adult-adjacent industry and have known quite a few people in the proper adult industry. Saw this shit play out in real time.)
Of course now we have a whole generation of boys and young men who were practically raised on this shit and it's fried their f****** brains. God damnit.
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JG-for-breakfast5 days ago
+95
Parents needs to go to jail
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tsaltsrif5 days ago
+41
If my daughter says she’s afraid of someone you can bet your sweet ass I’m going to find out why and I’m bringing fire and fury when I do.
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Kurise5 days ago
+49
The parents failed that girl and allowed this to occur.
Parents get charged for kids shooting up a school. These parents should be charged for ignoring this clear predator.
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bidhopper5 days ago
+23
You knew this was coming. There had to been very little doubt since he was the only one coming and going from that room that he shared with his sister.
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MajorComrade5 days ago
+92
This world is so fucked up
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greihund5 days ago
+23
>The couple said the 16-year-old suspect has not yet been taken into custody, which they said has left them "deeply concerned and troubled."
Wait... so they know (or at least strongly suspect) that the stepbrother is a murderer, and they're just leaving him in the custody of his parents for now? There's a very real chance that he might just melt down and self-destruct (and maybe take some other people with him) rather than face the public scrutiny and trial and a life in jail. I can't believe there's news articles about this story and the kid is still just roaming free out there
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Head-Preference-70815 days ago
+42
That is one seriously f'd up family.
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FiveUpsideDown5 days ago
+23
Someone posted the family tree for this family it’s hard to follow.
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Scared_Smoke_46085 days ago
+50
That poor girl was failed by her entire family. And then the whole white-trash clan started giving media interviews left and right while her body was still warm. Instead of grieving her death, they started looking for their 15 minutes of fame.
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HiYoSiiiiiilver5 days ago
+17
Kid murders someone and they just them go? WTF
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wyvernx025 days ago
+17
Now charge the rest of the family for enabling the abusive little shit-head.
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pvt_majorboner5 days ago
+16
He's being tried as an adult for his crimes tho hes 16. Which is obviously correct. But when Jesse Butler an 18 year old brutally raped and strangled 2 teen girls he was tried as a minor and told to see a therapist instead....
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tayhawk105 days ago
+16
wtf did I just read, This some BS like I HIGHLY doubt there were 0 indicators, and the families response to the incident seems like they are protecting the boy,
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ItsYaBoySabt_ad5 days ago
+14
wtf is wrong with people
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Bleezy795 days ago
+14
Wait, they havent even apprehended the murderer yet??? wtf!? What a strange, evil world we live in these days.
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