Suspect in Washington dinner shooting charged with attempting to assassinate Trump

Honestly she already has by filing the assassination charge. While I believe it is ***likely*** that he was attempting to do this, that’s not the standard for a conviction and I would be shocked if they got this to stick.

Trump posting about it may have fucked it up even more. There's a reason why secretaries and directors and presidents outside of this administration don't usually comment on pending cases

Officer was struck in bulletproof vest.

Somewhere a track official is missing his starter pistol 🤪

He was on the floor above. That could be why ppl are saying an assassination charge isn't likely to stick since the dude wasn't in the same room and wasn't aiming at him. 

since the first staged shooting accidentally killed the fireman, they have been trying to keep the people they pay off alive.

Turns out, shooting guns IRL isn't as easy as video games and movies make it seem. 

He tripped and fell.

I read earlier an agent was hit in the bullet proof vest he was wearing. If that info came from the WH, then it’s likely a lie.

Also how he didn’t shoot anyone, literally ZERO casualties

They want to push a narrative and they know most people won't read it.

I'd say it goes farther than imply, even - he thanks his church family. He references both the Sermon on the Mount *("turn the other cheek")* and Jesus v. the Pharisees + Herodians *("give onto Caesar what is Caesar's")* - to me it seems clear that acting on his Christian beliefs was a core part of this choice. *(Whether you agree with his interpretation being Christian or not is another matter - at this point I think it's well established that there is no singular, correct, way to be Christian, this has been true since Niceae, at least.)* Supporting evidence: he was a member of the Christian Fellowship at CalTech. His (now deleted) bluesky profile featured many Bible quotes - one of the most recent ones was (assuming screenshots of profile are correct) Revelation, re: the Antichrist/mark of the beast. His father was, until shortly after his name was released, listed as an elder at Grace United Reform Church, in Torrance. He also attended a private Christian homeschool academy, South Bay Faith Academy. *(Confirmed in statement on their website.)*  I also find it very unsettling *(although not particularly surprising)* to see the idea that this was an anti Christian attack, being unquestioningly repeated. I wanna know if he was a Teen Mania/Acquire the Fire alum - he's the right age range to have caught the end of it. 

Transitive property I think. He was there to shoot pedophiles and rapists. Trump is a pedophile and rapist. Trump also believes he's the second coming of Christ. So The attacker was after Christianity.

The administration seems to be assuming that where the 'manifesto' mentions rapists and pedophiles the shooter intended to work his way from the obvious top and work his way down. The white house totally makes no implication that trump should somehow be considered the #1 rapist/pedophile at that dinner. None. (eye-roller one) Any misunderstanding that runs contrary to that interpretation is completely on the shoulders of the lügenpresse. (eye-roll #2)

His lawyers will explore that, surely.

Maybe he thought Matt Gaetz got a cabinet position?

Manifesto literally says targeting administration officials from highest rank first.

A hit dog will holler

I also thought it sounded like a stretch, once you step back and acknowledge A) there were no shots fired AT the president, and B) there were lots of people in attendance, any one of them could have been the target.

Yes if you shot someone you would be charged with attempted murder or aggravated assault

They just asked in a presser about this… the affidavit doesn’t mention him firing the gun at all, but the charges say otherwise.

That’s a funny point, the security probably friendly fired.

All the reports seem murky (and that's before we get into the reliability of official statements), but it sounds like one of the Secret Service agents shot another one accidentally but it was stopped by his bullet proof vest so no one was seriously injured. If the alleged shooter didn't actually point his gun at anyone (like if he was tackled shortly after pulling his weapon or if he only shot into the air) it would be very hard to get beyond reasonable doubt on attempted murder.

Security friendly fires. You can see it in the video.

> discharging a firearm during a crime of violence What is up with the f****** weird way they phrase this stuff lately? Isn't this a chicken-and-egg problem, where it's not a crime of violence unless he discharges a firearm? You can't discharge the firearm *during* the crime if the discharging is what makes it a crime...without the firearm he basically just ran into a room? Running indoors isn't illegal, and neither is carrying a firearm. Having it concealed may be, but wasn't he carrying a shotgun

Link please?

Holy f***, you're not wrong. Literally all of them were like "Oh, shit! What do we do?!?"

Second the link please

He had a gun? Wait, so did the Jan 6 tourists.

The line of argument is of course "Crazed man wants to kill Trump because he falsely believed Trump was a pedophile." It's not that hard. The Trump DOJ could still bungle this through sheer incompetence, but if you don't think a guilty verdict for this guy should be an absolute layup, you're being intentionally obtuse

"The only thing that can stop a bad-guy with a gun, is a new White House ballroom!"

It's super frustrating that, among things that arent even gun related, that these people's solutions to our problems just make their pathologies worse.

He didn't get very close though.

This country loves guns, not gun skills or gun safety. I have seen some videos of gun nuts here and they will just leave their fully loaded weapons sitting on window seals with the safety off.

> He was one floor up, several sets of security, and several stairwells away from Trump. This was in no way an "assassination attempt" Is this a factual statement about the law or just an opinion? Other than it supporting the outcome people want, is there a legal definition that requires the would be shooter to make it to the same floor as the target for it to become a crime?

Even plotting it is already a crime, being on site, armed, and running through (first layer of) security is definitely an attempt

C'mon now. Would you ever argue that January 6 was such a bad attempt at a coup that it altogether stops being a coup attempt? Of course you wouldn't. (I hope you wouldn't!)

Yeah, he was just trying to charge into the WHCD with a shotgun as a prank. It wasn’t a *real* attempt

It certainly wouldn't be the first time this administration's extreme incompetence and unearned bravado ended up making them look silly.

Guy walks free while getting a mysterious paycheck. .I still think it's staged TBH.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Martin_Duran

Hmm, interesting take. A guy who releases a manifesto about taking down government officials charges into a building with the highest level government officials with guns. Of course it was random chance.

Either way you slice it this incident proves we desperately need a gaudy national ballroom.

Considering the fact that he wasn't even on the same floor as the ballroom, I have no idea how they think they are charging him with attempted assassination.

Lol 💯 agree. Like...what was the plan here? And if this was his take on assassination followed up with suicide by cop, he failed at that too. Straight up moron.

"Ah so the magnetometer will discover my weapons but what could they possibly do if at that point I simply sprint like a mad-man?" Sort of plan that really does work. . . until it doesn't. Not exactly oceans 11 type stuff. Don't invite this guy to your heist crew.

I mean, they know what they do would get them mobbed without a fortune being spent on their security. They’re directly responsible for the preventable deaths of millions. I’ve honestly been cautiously(and depressingly) proud of our nation’s mental healthcare progress, because I’ve been astounded that more haven’t gone off the deep end this way. Maybe his security is better than we give it credit for, and they just don’t report the daily assassination attempts.

This entire thing took place in the DC Hilton, not at the White House. The White House, you may have heard from recent reporting, does not presently have a ball room. Edit: There was at least one instance of an unarmed guy trying to run into the White House without any apparent attempt to harm anyone though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_White_House_intrusion

What needs to stop? You mean people going after Trump? Or do you mean allowing Trump to get away with crimes like raping children? Seems we could solve both problems by locking him up. He's a shit president anyway.