Syringe reuse at Pakistan hospital infects 331 children with HIV

some kid shot him in the zoo

#JusticeForHammurabi

Nowhere near Pakistan.

Yeah this is kinda how I feel about the California law change where purposely not disclosing being HIV positive and infecting other people was lowered from a felony to a misdemeanor. Like sure we have "access" to the meds here but it's still a lifelong, preventative disease that you now have to deal with because some a****** couldn't put their big boy pants on and have a serious discussion before hooking up.

My cousin did part of his residency for a few months in India. The main doctor told him not to tell the poor patients about the cocktail or whatever the meds were at the time. One week? Month? dose was more than their family annual income. So they were just given symptom management. I’ve heard that since then costs have come down but it still ain’t c****

It's so weird too because needles are dirt c****. Skimming off of that may get you a few bucks. 

I second this, automotive parts sector. Blatant lies to your face with refuting evidence half a page down in the outlook inbox.

There's a cultural attitude of "no, I know those are the rules, but I'll do it this way, it'll be fine, bad things happen to other people, not me". I deal a lot with Indian/Pakistani businesses in tech too, and see it all the time.

This was about 23 years ago in the middle east so even if you reported her, nothing would have happened lol

1989 Yugoslavia still having better needle practice than modern day Pakistan

That's different though - blood bond, every child has a lifelong bond to another they have to share diseases with. It encourages cooperation.

I know it's stupid, but I reuse my own needles a fair number of shots until it seemed time to break out a new one. The BBC video I saw, and what was written in the article I read this morning, explained that the needles were (sometimes?) being changed but not the syringe. Apparently the syringe itself gets backwash and therefore becomes very dangerous with pathogens like HIV. I actually didn't know that and always thought it was the actual needle. Apparently they also rely far more on injections of medications that could be given orally due to a heavy perception that injections are better. It's a complicated clusterfuck of ignorance, poor practice, and lack of repercussions. :(

>because people didn’t know and then continued after they knew https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_haemophilia_blood_products#Continued_sales

It happened after they knew too.

Used to be a lot of people would get hepatitis from transfusions. because commercial blood banks were buying blood from junkies. And they knew that. Their solution wasn't to ban junkies from giving blood it was to develop tests to detect infected blood. And when they did that they were confident the problem was solved. And people still were getting hepatitis. Which is how they found out about Hep C.

From the article: >Experts say the practices seen in the footage could easily spread infections. “Even if a new needle is attached, the syringe body can carry the virus,” said Dr Altaf Ahmed, a consultant microbiologist. In one instance, a nurse was filmed retrieving a used syringe containing leftover liquid and handing it to a colleague for reuse — an act he described as violating “every principle” of safe injection.

There's the medication vials being reused too but that's probably even less likely to infect than a reused needle... this is like some "entire blood bank is sourced from an AIDS clinic" sized outbreak.

Nobody says it was one needle, one source or one patient, the article is also incredible clear that this was not due to one needle. The problem here is that for a long period they re-used needles without cleaning them in between. (re-using sucks, but hey at least clean them)

Who do you lash out at? A) The worker who treated your kid. B) Their supervisor for likely enforcing this practice. C) The leadership of the hospital who likely started this practice. D) All the above.

I definitely feel what you're saying.

We'd be bunkmates for sure!

Interesting! This also happened in Germany. Must've been a world wide thing, just to supply the Chinese market.

It's also what Mr. Clean Magic Erasers are 🙃

Yup. It's a great structure material. Combining it with formaldehyde makes melamine resins, which can indeed be used to make plastic tableware, but really it's biggest applications are in making water-resistant top coatings for particle board. That's how you get melamine boards, which makes up the bulk of material in modern kitchen cabinets. It's pretty inert chemically, and decently non-stick so in that aspect it's a really cool material. And while it's toxic, you really do need significant amounts for that to happen. Scrapings shouldn't cause any issue But as an actual ingredient in baby formula? What the actual f***?

Jesus

Yes. But that was regulated. It was ok for them to add up to a certain percentage. It may still be going on for all I know. Lesson = don't purchase pat foods or treats made in China. We use Addiction brand - made in New Zealand.

.43 cent check in the mail. Jail time for no one as they investigated them selves.

And then a presidential pardon for a political donation.

Alyssa Shepherd hit and killed 3 children, a 9 year old and twin 6 year olds, the 4th sibling survived, at a bus stop in Indiana when she 'didn't realize she was approaching a stopped school bus'. She ultimately served slightly over 2 years, having 6 months taken off her sentence for "completing a bible study course". I certainly hope the perpetrators in OOP get more (legal) justice than that

They executed 2 who created the formula and decided to add melamine in to the milk and sell it off to the companies, like the ones who started it all, they are the original manufacturer where the company source the milk from, they know what they are doing and kick started the entire disaster iirc it's originally 3 but one of them were actually less involved so they turned it into a life sentence along with a shit ton of CEO and government officials who tried to cover this up... surprise surprise, who would have expected Ceo and government officials are never worth trusting Edit: Thought I may add on the reasons why the Ceos and government officials got charged, they peeformed a internal investigation after noticing how some of their customers complain about the milk, and realized someone is shoving melamine on purpose into their products, they then surpressed the news and told the local government, they then tried to do a recall quietly, and due to it not being a public recall many who already bought the milk consumed it anyway leading to another group getting affected, the Ceo tried to suppress the news to save their stocks and the local government officials after receiving the news from the Ceo decide to suppress it as well because the Olympics was in progress and don't want this to go international...So the whistle blower went straight to the Chinese Ambassador which returned during the Olympics and skipped the local government and notify the CCP

They executed the most senior person in both companies that knew about it - the CEOs.

Yeah a 1-2% rate is like "you messed up handling the needle that was just in an HIV patient and now it's in your arm and also you didn't do anything about it other than pull it out". So even if they didn't sterilize the needles the numbers are ridiculous.

Thousands of kids and also the needle has HIV the entire time.

It says syringes, why is everyone fixated on needles. So this is definitely a mass reuse of syringes and other equipments without sterilising

Ohhh f*** please let it be 1 greedy manager and not a systemic issue...

It is possible to make the whole thing out of metal. With a heat-resistant o-ring.

It’s corruption top down, the only people who see none of that money are the ones the NGOs are supposed to help