The bombs didn't go off, which is the only reason we're not talking about a mass casualty event in Manhattan right now, TATP packed into an energy drink can thrown into a crowd. Thats not a prank gone wrong but the same explosive used in the London bombings and pure luck that nobody died.
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TheFrenchSavage2 days ago
+1400
Yeah, TATP is super unstable, it will go off after kinetic shock, friction, heat, static... basically don't be around it and don't touch it.
1400
Consistent-Throat1302 days ago
+572
They probably fucked up making TATP if it didn't go off lol
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Sgt_major_dodgy2 days ago
+379
Same thing with the 21/7 bombers on the tube.
Fucked up making TATP and just caused them to sort of fizzle and burn.
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Leather-Arachnid-4172 days ago
+129
Luckily a lot of would be terrorists are stupid.
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KDR_11k1 day ago
+32
And usually guided by the FBI. Most caught terrorists would just be a group of slobs sitting around and grumbling about vague issues if it wasn't for the FBI coming in to provide them with a plan and materials to pull their plan off. Of course the FBI doesn't let the plan actually succeed but they do boost their arrest rates by basically raising people into terrorism.
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emomatt1 day ago
+16
'usually' is hyperbole. It definitely happens, but it's not anywhere near a majority.
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Nightcat6661 day ago
+29
Im sorry but I get annoyed plenty about things the government does but if someone came up to me with a bomb and a plan I wouldn't do it. If lack of materials is all it takes from these people being mass murders than maybe they shouldn't be in society.
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thisshitsstupid1 day ago
+11
Thats probably why they do it. If all it takes is a little nudging by internet strangers to do this shit, be the internet stranger. And teach them incorrectly. And then put their dumb asses in prison forever for trying.
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Calvins81 day ago
+2
Eh plenty of cases where the "terrorist" did not want to follow through with violence and they were convinced by the undercover agent. Many of these people need help for sure but it's not like the agent only provided a means and a plan.
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i_am_voldemort2 days ago
+137
Agree, they clamped down on ability to buy concentrated acetone needed. They probably used nail polish.
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ErraticDragon2 days ago
+192
Nail polish **remover**, surely.
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i_am_voldemort2 days ago
+116
What I meant. Sorry I am drunk on mobile
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706952 days ago
+66
dude i can get you a toe.... with nailpolish!
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Lastcaressmedown1382 days ago
+30
Forget about the f****** toe!
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Hamhockthegizzard2 days ago
+20
*Donny you’re out of your element*
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thelingeringlead2 days ago
+5
I'll have you a toe by three o'clock, polish and all.
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Ok_Vulva2 days ago
+18
I didn't know we could just be honest about that
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winky98272 days ago
+6
mobile phone, not mobile vehicle. 🤓
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CallMeKik2 days ago
+2
How did you drink a mobile
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EtherealPheonix2 days ago
+4
Well it didn't explode, so maybe...
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777777thats7sevens2 days ago
+35
You can buy 99+% acetone at any hardware store in New York super easily and cheaply. High test hydrogen peroxide is harder to come by, though my local hardware store in NY carries 30% hydrogen peroxide in 5 gallon jugs for very c****, so it's still not too hard to get.
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Soporific881 day ago
+3
added to FBI list
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Persistentnotstable2 days ago
+12
Thought it was the concentrated hydrogen peroxide that was more critical? It's still easy to get technical grade acetone
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chemist58182 days ago
+3
It's also really easy to distill it
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Persistentnotstable2 days ago
+5
Hell, if you have the peroxide you could probably just throw isopropanol in and let it oxidize
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TheFrenchSavage2 days ago
+87
Yes, it generally explodes in the kitchen.
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clintgreasewoood2 days ago
+31
Even while listening to PAPP, TAPT in can go off.
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Digital_loop2 days ago
+44
The only one I'm aware of is CBAT
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BalkanFerros2 days ago
+28
and a horrible song is stuck in my head again
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xporkchopxx2 days ago
+15
horrible? how dare you talk down on such a …. ballad
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BalkanFerros2 days ago
+8
lmao, I run a tebletop game where mecha are named after songs.
CBAT is this most beat up junker they've seen. that ... Ballad, it's a masterpiece in its own, unbearable right.
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0rclev2 days ago
+8
What about P!ATD?
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WoolooOfWallStreet2 days ago
+285
Me: TATP?
> [Tri]Acetone [Tri]peroxide (/æsəˈtəʊn pɛrˈɒksaɪd/ ⓘ also called APEX and mother of Satan)…
Me: Oh…
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queefburritowcheese2 days ago
+221
> Me: TATP?
>
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The_Space_Jamke2 days ago
+47
Would be a very long list if every person with a passing interest in potentially hazardous chemicals is logged.
Though I'm probably on there for looking up several ways to legally order benzaldehyde and thionyl chloride for my research group (swear on my dead grandpas that I'm not trying to cook meth, I'm not that financially desperate yet)
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sephjnr1 day ago
+10
For a state that desperately wants to correlate education with subversion, said logging is on brand
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wrosecrans1 day ago
+3
I used to work full time in visual effects. Literally everybody in that industry has done a ton of research on explosions as reference for work. And every writer I know has researched a ton of poisons for their murder mystery spec script, etc.
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Squire_II2 days ago
+11
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callcentermanager1 day ago
+6
If you're not already on a list what are you even doing?
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mschuster912 days ago
+267
These morons are lucky enough that the bombs didn’t go off while making them. In school, many years ago when there wasn’t much restriction on acquiring source chemicals, a friend of mine lost half his hand from TATP going off during synthesis. Writing hand, on top of that.
Ended up with two months off sick and some trouble with the law as well.
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gonewild96762 days ago
+228
The rumor back in the day was that the CIA wrote the Anarchist Cookbook because the processes were so unsafe that unskilled people following them would off themselves.
But then back in the day you could buy dynamite at rural hardware stores. It was used to take out stumps and privet.
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AllAboutTheData2 days ago
+65
Dynamite doesn't kill privet. The blast merely helps the stuff to spread.
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gonewild96762 days ago
+34
Probably. But I'm sure it looks good doing it.
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wrosecrans1 day ago
+7
If you are a dynamite salesman, that's a feature not a bug. Oh, you still have that problem, maybe even moreso? You should buy more dynamite this time.
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a8bmiles2 days ago
+52
Yeah was wild listening to old man stories when I was a kid in the 80s, about how when _they_ were kids they could buy gunpowder by the pound at the hardware store as long as they were able to reach the counter, which for the guy telling this story was about age 8.
Him and his buddies got into all sorts of trouble, but nobody got hurt so nothing changed.
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TheShadowKick2 days ago
+48
Well, people did get hurt and things did change. That's why you can't do that anymore.
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KofOaks2 days ago
+9
Honestly I was a kid in the 80s and we could buy Potassium nitrate and sulphur over the counter at the drug store, among a bunch of other things you'd never find now.
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UsernameCheckOuts1 day ago
+2
Yeah. I was into weird chemistry, including fireworks, and bought loads of illicit stuff from the p*******. Was even con-founded by the availability when I was a kid.
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PassiveMenis88M2 days ago
+40
Not a rumor, though you've got it a little twisted. The Anarchist Cookbook is real and had real recipes in it that worked. What got spread on the internet was rewritten by the Cia.
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gonewild96762 days ago
+17
Did the original one have safety information as well?
I had a college chemistry teacher who said a lot of what he read would work but he wouldn't do it without a chemical vent hood.
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PassiveMenis88M2 days ago
+15
Basic safety, I believe the author expected the chemicals to be handled by chemists.
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cptnamr72 days ago
+3
Quarter sticks for bird control were also super common.
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elephant35e2 days ago
+5
I was very briefly interested in making this stuff as a kid to have some fun while driving through remote areas on vacations, but my dad told me we shouldn't attract police attention by Googling the instructions. Reading your comment makes me glad I never had the opportunity to try making it.
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RogerianBrowsing2 days ago
+2
I don’t want to say what chemicals get mixed but they’re still all OTC. This guy isn’t some genius or whatever.
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Squire_II2 days ago
+85
Also sounds like they were targeting the right wing protesters. The headline made me think they were targeting Mamdani and wondered how it wasn't even bigger news that someone tried to bomb the mayor of NYC.
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broadsword_12 days ago
+59
I'm sure it was an honest mistake by the news sites.
/s
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+24
I mean I'm sure people would've gotten fucked up but you need shrapnel. The explosive just propels the shrapnel. A soda can isn't creating a whole lot of shrapnel.
It was going to fail no matter what because the entire setup was bad. Not to dismiss that people could've been seriously burned or that even a soda can can still create a small amount of lethal shrapnel but luckily it was never going to be some massive casualty event. Lives were saved, but we don't need to overstate what this attack was. It was poorly planned start to finish.
Edit: someone tells me the jar of nails was actually the real bomb. I recall there being like four different conflicting stories that the bomb was a pipe, a can, a jar, and a soda bottle. I've seen like 20 different photos. The jar was by far the most lethal. That was a really dangerous bomb and that was a really lucky day if so.
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Riichi-stick2 days ago
+107
Idk why it says soda can in this thread, the photos showed smoking jars of nails and scrap
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+35
I have heard like four different versions of this complete with photos of different bombs, with even credible news websites saying different things with different photos. But I guess I should've checked myself the can was what was settled on. Was the jar of nails confirmed? Because that was a real, lethal bomb with like double the explosive lol that thing would create a mass casualty event for sure.
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AuroraFinem2 days ago
+21
Even if it’s a can with no shrapnel, TATP tossed into a crowed is very likely to be lethal to the immediate vicinity due to the blast and the can will shatter into extremely thin extremely sharp shreds of aluminum and act as its own shrapnel.
If you’ve ever cut an aluminum can, it is razor sharp because the aluminum is optimized to be as thin as possible to save manufacturing and transportation costs, and it’s not going to break into big chunks during an internal explosion with that much force. The cans are designed to be strong in tension so they don’t break due to the carbonation pressures or if dropped short distances/shaken, so the can would allow a good amount of pressure build up before failing making it shatter into smaller pieces when it ultimately fails.
What container it was in or if it had shrapnel really shouldn’t matter at all here anyways though. They deserve life for conspiracy to commit terrorism alone, how smart or successful they were in doing so is entirely irrelevant.
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+5
We're getting a bit too gritty here for hypotheticals but I think you would need people huddled closer for more than one or two people to be injured beyond minor injuries if you just packed TATP into a soda can and rigged it to explode. It would be a really, really bad day for those two people though.
I don't agree it would shred to pieces unless they somehow got it sealed really, really well. Carbonation in soda doesn't create that much pressure lol. There's a science experiment where you pull the carbon dioxide out of soda and push it back into the soda using your hands and an airtight pump, it's only a few pounds of force. The explosive would probably just blow the top off at and shred it outward since a can with weak points along the top and bottom is not really a good bomb vessel. A lot of engineering goes into the manner bombs explode lol.
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Riichi-stick2 days ago
+2
I saw it on the day of as it was reported but I haven’t researched it
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+9
I checked and you're right it seems it was glass jar of pain and death.
But now I'm mad at the news for somehow misleading so many of us this bad. I saw the glass jar one shared around and wrote it off because if you throw a glass jar it breaks and the news was talking about a pipe or a large can. Probably CNN
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Riichi-stick2 days ago
+3
Its bizarre. I remember originally reading they rolled them and they failed to detonate.
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Abject_Breadfruit1482 days ago
+15
I'm so glad I can go deaf instead of getting a hole in my side :)
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CrisVas32 days ago
+18
Between the two that's probably the preferred option, yes. Especially since you'd probably go dead AND get the hole on your side with the latter.
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+8
I mean would you rather be deaf or dead? Those are two wildly different extremes my friend.
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accidental_superman2 days ago
+19
No you don't need shrapnel to kill with explosives, the over pressure can do that alone. Soldiers have died without a scratch on them, but the damage is internally.
https://safety.army.mil/MEDIA/Risk-Management-Magazine/ArtMID/7428/ArticleID/7993/Blast-Overpressure-An-Invisible-Threat
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+18
A soda can of TATP is not going to create a significant amount of overpressure to cause a mass casualty event across an entire crowd. Maybe if it exploded next to someone's head. That is not very much explosive.
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fictionallymarried2 days ago
+2
Excuse me, what the f***
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Warcraft_Fan2 days ago
+3
I love it when idiots tries to cause terror and instead made it easy for police to deal with them. Years, if not decades, behind bar to discourage them from trying again.
The Two Stoogies tries act of terrorism
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THElaytox2 days ago
+2349
"I want to start terror bro"
Great, a new generation of brainrotted terrorists
2349
AliceInAcidland2 days ago
+677
the other guy said "bro this is so cool"
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DisenchantedByrd2 days ago
+270
Bro’s are about to learn about decades in Supermax lockdown. But on the bright side, they’ll have their religious texts.
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1_800_Drewidia2 days ago
+195
Bro’s gonna be prisonmaxxing. I’ve heard it’s not good for your cortisol.
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axonxorz1 day ago
+5
Maybe they'll get lucky and put in with Clav, they can all _bone smash_ together.
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No-Bother68562 days ago
+8
Great, so when they come out, they will have all the resolve to try again.
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nameduser3652 days ago
+13
See the movie Four Lions
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doyathinkasaurus2 days ago
+84
>The FBI says that a suspect in the arson fire at a historic Mississippi synagogue admitted to targeting the institution **because of its “Jewish ties”.**
A synagogue with Jewish ties. Well that's a genius right there.
The synagogue had survived bombing by the KKK, but sadly not a 19 year old (alleged) arsonist with brain rot.
>It was the site of a Ku Klux Klan bombing in 1967 – a response to the congregation’s role in civil rights activities, according to the Institute of Southern Jewish Life, which also houses its office in the building. The home of the synagogue’s rabbi, an outspoken critic of racial segregation, was also bombed two months later by the same group.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/12/mississippi-synagogue-fire-fbi-suspect-targeted
He did manage to f*** himself up in the process
>The man accused of torching a Mississippi synagogue posted a graphic selfie hours after the antisemitic attack, showing off his nasty burns.
>Pittman raised his **swollen and severely burned left hand** in the photo while **his bemused face** was covered in pink scorch marks.
https://nypost.com/2026/01/13/us-news/teen-accused-of-torching-mississippi-synagogue-posted-hospital-selfie-of-severe-burns-hours-after-attack/l
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Murrabbit2 days ago
+45
\*Burns self in horrible racist fire bombing\* Bro, this is *content!*.
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CelestialFury2 days ago
+21
Bruh, I'm scarmaxxing. The females are going to be wet from the scarmogging.
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Murrabbit2 days ago
+8
Back in my day we used to call this the *English Patient* technique.
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_spec_tre2 days ago
+23
We're starting to see the consequences of social media (especially Meta and TikTok) not even bothering to regulate the rampant antisemitism flying around using Israel's atrocities as a cover. Considering the sheer amount of teenagers who believe this shit with full conviction it'll only get worse
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KDR_11k1 day ago
+9
And let's not forget about Twitter where you don't need a cover at all.
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NDSU1 day ago
+5
You're talking about a different incident. This one was attempted terrorists in New York
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doyathinkasaurus1 day ago
+9
I know. That's the whole point. Look at the comment I replied to:
>Great, a new generation of brainrotted terrorists
A different terrorist attack, committed (allegedly) by another dumb as f*** teenager.
Hence *a new generation* of brainrotted terrorists.
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Decent-Ganache76472 days ago
+183
This gave me a good laugh. Brainrotted terrorists.
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spoonerluv2 days ago
+132
Vertically filmed beheadings 💀
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Murrabbit2 days ago
+22
Your honor, I was framemogged.
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sasha_the_impaler2 days ago
+95
I mean in the end are these guys really much different from any of the other mass shooters and killers we get? Kinda goes for all these 16-21 year old domestic terrorists. The white atheist and Christian mass shooters just believe in one form of nihilism while the Muslim bombers instead opt for the extremist Islam death cult version of nihilism that gets distorted even further when it's under the context of growing up in America. Seems to stick with the trend that we're being killed by brainrotted chronically online young people who got themselves radicalized for the meme, usually online.
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mimaikin-san2 days ago
+17
definitely a pair of incels whose only intimacy now will be the confines of their prison cell
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piketpagi2 days ago
+4
where these kids usually met and hangout online? 4chan? r/sipstea ?
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hedgetank2 days ago
+1
This is why I keep arguing that the focus on c*** like "gun violence" is stupid. The problem is *violence*, and people's willingness to commit it. Doesn't matter what method people use to do violence, just matters that they do it.
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GreasiestGuy2 days ago
+75
I’m not even in support of gun control but there’s a huge difference between a stabbing attack and a shooting.
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Antique-Ad-90812 days ago
+24
>Doesn't matter what method people use to do violence, just matters that they do it.
punching someone in a bar seems kind of different than throwing an atomic bomb to me idk.
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Crepo2 days ago
+31
The gun is a fair f****** bit more dangerous than a knife. You're so, so much more likely to survive a knife attack, and a mass stabbing is very hard to do.
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Murrabbit2 days ago
+11
> Doesn't matter what method people use to do violence
Hard disagree on this one, method determines efficacy, and I'd much rather see lower body counts if we have to put up with any at all. I'm glad for instance that the bomb throwers in OP's link didn't actually have access to high quality explosives, and instead tossed a few duds.
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snorlz2 days ago
+5
obviously. but violence is not something you can fully address with laws or even culture change. its engrained in humans - pretty much all animals really. go out to the bars on a friday night and im sure youll find many people willing to commit violence. its not a realistic goal
> Doesn't matter what method people use to do violence, just matters that they do it.
turns out, the method DOES matter. a lot. a slap in the face vs a nuke is pretty obviously not equal methods of violence.
the focus on gun violence is cause guns amplify the ease and scale of violence a single person can cause and there are no use cases for them outside killing something. its also realistically addressable with laws as guns are physical objects, not thoughts
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sasha_the_impaler1 day ago
+3
Then why isn't violence such a huge problem elsewhere in developed nations? If it's not cultural?
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Murrabbit2 days ago
+2
All laid out while talking about their plan in front of a dash cam in their own car. Guys were not exactly criminal masterminds.
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Chaosmusic1 day ago
+3
Bro-Qaeda
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PLaTinuM_HaZe2 days ago
+636
Imagine being 18 years old and thinking “I should just throw the rest of my life down the drain!” As if there was any way they wouldn’t be apprehended.
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Xochoquestzal2 days ago
+188
Pretty sure they wanted to throw their lives down the drain and die when the bombs went off instead of being apprehended.
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PurpleSailor2 days ago
+41
Lifelong tour of Supermax Prison. Not the brightest bulbs in the box.
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Real-Influence-77802 days ago
+19
Stupid people always think they’re smarter than everyone else
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CelestialFury2 days ago
+5
I bet their shitty discord channels were egging them on.
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whatthepucks1 day ago
+2
And doing it because a guy wants to provide everyone free buses.
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Mr_J90K2 days ago
+85
"Teens accused of bombing attempt at Mamdani home openly discussed plans to kill"
"Alleged Islamist teens accused of premeditated bomb plot targeting protesters outside Mamdani’s home"*
Even though the body of the article makes clear that Islamist suspects were targeting right-wing to far-right protesters outside his home, many readers will come away with a completely incorrect understanding based on the headline alone. That is a problem, given how many people skim these things.
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ntwiles1 day ago
+26
I would go as far as to say the headline is engineered to give the impression that it was an attempt on Mamdani’s life.
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Enough_Grapefruit691 day ago
+3
There is an agenda.
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ntwiles1 day ago
+4
I think the agenda here is just clickbait headlines.
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tinyhorsesinmytea2 days ago
+561
What the f*** is that poodle ass hair? With bangs?!
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PatchyWhiskers2 days ago
+111
Also his bomb looked like a cartoon 💣
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GatoLibre2 days ago
+39
Straight from the ACME catalog.
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fartlebythescribbler2 days ago
+17
He wanted to get a Cranston but the barber was looking at the wrong page of the magazine.
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lanicorain2 days ago
+3
He'll come out of prison looking like a Bryan Cranston.
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suitorarmorfan2 days ago
+10
Poodle ass 😭 I can’t unsee it now
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flamehead2k12 days ago
+1802
another terrible headline regarding this incident. the teens weren't planning to kill Mamdani but instead the protestors
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cement_brick2142 days ago
+350
It's from the Guardian lmao what did you expect
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DrEarlGreyIII2 days ago
+33
uhhh…what?
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Pera_Espinosa2 days ago
+379
The person you're replying to believes that this type of dishonest framing of an incident in a headline is typical of the guardian and to be expected.
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n0respect_2 days ago
+6
Correct, even technically correct, while sounding as much like a bot as you possibly can. (good bot)
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Hugh_Maneiror2 days ago
+32
It's crazy, they almost got me cause just reading the title I thought they would be right wing kids targeting his hime, not islamists targeting right wing kids somewhere nearby
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tenantquestion1231 day ago
+9
That’s the idea!
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cement_brick2142 days ago
+167
With the guardian you coin-flip between either a very well researched and sourced article or the most agenda pushing drivel that would make the Epoch Times blush
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Resident_Nothing_6592 days ago
+28
I was giving your opinion some respect until you tried to say that they’re worst than the Epoch Times
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fevered_visions2 days ago
+21
and the other guy saying "they're paywalled now" "what are you talking about, no they aren't"
this comment tree's credibility is rapidly degrading lol
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Esu-Desu2 days ago
+24
Yeah...I read the Guardian for quite some time, it was one of the last mainstream news apps to get paywalled.
At least while I was reading, their news coverage was rather good. Their opinion articles read like parodies a conservative would make of freshman liberal arts students.
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Xeno-lover2 days ago
+26
Still not paywalled? That's like a major selling point they keep bringing up if you visit their website.
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Chappellshow2 days ago
+139
I'm glad people on both sides recognize this bs headline.
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ventitr32 days ago
+22
and to still see these headlines this much time later is crazy.
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Th1rte3n13342 days ago
+364
Terrible headline. C’mon, I know you can do better.
When a headline is as leading as that you know it’s not in good faith.
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joeDUBstep2 days ago
+23
Yeah that dudes head line is indeed atrocious.
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Kind_Singer_77442 days ago
+219
They dont want to say two Islamic terrorists were caught. So they leave it vague
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Hugh_Maneiror2 days ago
+62
Not just that, they make it seem Mamdani's home was the target and those skipping over it might think the perpetrators were domestic right wing
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Swoly_Deadlift1 day ago
+8
Judging by the amount of upvotes it worked
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Greebil1 day ago
+3
> might think the perpetrators were domestic right wing
They are domestic right wing terrorists. Their parents are naturalized US citizens and they grew up in the Pennsylvania, which makes it domestic, and Islamism is an inherently right-wing ideology, essentially a sister ideology of Christian nationalism.
Still a bad headline, though, since people will naturally think it was the other right wing group.
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epidemicsaints2 days ago
+19
Yeah man.
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blackop2 days ago
+179
Pretty open and shut case to me. Charge them with terrorism, throw them in a hole, and dont let them see the light of day again. We got to really start going hard on people that do this type of thing.
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Tr_Issei22 days ago
+12
I like the way you think
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AdDependent51362 days ago
+4
All-inclusive trip to the resort of Guantanamo Bay
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MrMichaelJames1 day ago
+18
These are adults. 18 and 19 year olds. Article shouldn’t try to make them look like children.
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tabrizzi2 days ago
+130
The title sounds like Mamdani might have been the target, but he was not. They targetted anti-Islam protesters in front of Gracie Mansion, the residence of the mayor of NYC.
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ADP_God2 days ago
+15
Quote from the article:
‘
While being taken to the police precinct, Balat allegedly said: “This isn’t a religion that just stands when people talk bad about … our prophet. We take action! We take action!
“If I don’t do it, someone else will come and do it,” he is also accused of saying.
Balat allegedly waived his right to stay silent. At the precinct, he purportedly wrote on a piece of paper: “All praise is due to Allah lord of all worlds! I pledge my allegience [sic] to the Islamic State. Die in your rage yu [sic] kuffar! Emir B.”
’
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Golda_M2 days ago
+436
How many articles have been published that make it sound like the bombers were on the anti-Mamdani side?
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Rugby5622 days ago
+173
Don't even need articles for that, Mamdani's own tweet phrased it that way too.
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thewholebottle2 days ago
+111
I mean, maybe they thought they were on Mamdani's side, but he's not on their side.
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rugboy_2 days ago
+29
Well said, and that's undeniably true.....
But, arguably, he still seemed to position himself as the intended victim of the attempted bombing — thus passively allowing the would-be-bombers to appear aligned with the protestors.
At best, it's a clumsy failure of communication that could've been phrased more effectively...... However it does seem pretty deliberate, which doesn't exactly reflect well on him and his political image......
...And I say that as somebody who is very happy that he's the mayor of NYC, and who doesn't buy into any of the Islamophobic trash trying to characterize the man as a radical jihadist.
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therealchappy242 days ago
+74
Mamdani implied it himself. Horrible look all around
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ntsp002 days ago
+13
Where did he imply that?
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Squidchop2 days ago
+104
He didn’t. He said that the anti-muslim protesters were bad and then said that the bombers were worse but some people weren’t satisfied with that or just want something to nitpick about Mamdani
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therealchappy242 days ago
+94
He didn’t actually mention the affiliation of the bombers in his tweet at all. He condemned white supremacists like Lang (rightfully so) and went right into saying that violence at protests is unacceptable without mentioning that it was the white supremacists being targeted with that violence
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ncolaros2 days ago
+3
Sorry, did you specifically want him to call them white supremicists? Because I think he actually did them a favor.
To be clear, you wanted Mamdani to say, out loud, "Two guys tried to kill a bunch of white supremicists, and I for one, won't stand for it!"
He said they threw the can at the protest and tried to commit an act of terrorism. What more do you want?
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vermillionvapors2 days ago
+33
He could call them what they are ... islamic terrorists.
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TurdWrangler20202 days ago
+21
I for one do not want my leaders declaring anything of the sort before a trial. Now THAT would be a bad look. In fact, there is a very recent example of just how bad it can look.
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BlindWillieJohnson2 days ago
+18
This is the same kind of bullshit purity testing people used to drag Obama for. “Well he called it a terrorist attack but since he didn’t call it a MUSLIM terrorist attack, he must me sympathetic!”
It was f****** stupid then and it’s f****** stupid now. He condemned it. He said terrorism is bad.
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bootlegvader2 days ago
+23
Dude, if Mamdani can start his whole tweet by throwing around the label of white supremicist for the potential victims than he can also call Islamic terrorism by name.
When the police recently arrested an individual for plotting to bomb that Palestinian activist he had no problem spelling out the full name of the Jewish Defense League. Not to mention, he somehow refrained from attacking the potential victim in that statement.
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therealchappy242 days ago
+2
He did rightfully call them hateful bigots. Clarifying that throwing bombs, even at shitty people protesting for shitty reasons, is bad is better than failing to separate those shitty people from the act of political violence that was taken against them. Again, he was much more clear about this in the press conference than the tweet which I was mostly referencing. I’ve already edited my original comment to say that as well.
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BarneyRubble182 days ago
+3
Something something both sides
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bootlegvader2 days ago
+24
>Yesterday, white supremacist Jake Lang organized a protest outside Gracie Mansion rooted in bigotry and racism. Such hate has no place in New York City. It is an affront to our city’s values and the unity that defines who we are.
>What followed was even more disturbing. Violence at a protest is never acceptable. The attempt to use an explosive device and hurt others is not only criminal, it is reprehensible and the antithesis of who we are.
Seriously, read that comment and tell me it doesn't imply Lang was responsible.
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+2
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ntsp002 days ago
+14
Source? The [transcript](https://www.rev.com/transcripts/mamdani-press-conference-after-protesters-attacked) of the press conference is evidence Mamdani stated the exact opposite of what you're claiming:
> I will defend that right every day that I am mayor even when those protesting say things that I abhor. Let me also be clear about something else. New York City will never tolerate violence, whether from protests or counter protests. Many of the counter protestors met this display of bigotry peacefully with a vision of a city that is welcoming to all. But a few did not. Two men, Emir Balat and Ibrahim Kayumi, traveled from Pennsylvania and attempted to bring violence to New York City. They are suspected of coming here to commit an act of terrorism. There is video of these two individuals throwing two devices towards the protest. The police department has determined that these were improvised explosive devices made to injure, maim, or worse. Thanks to the swift and decisive actions of NYPD officers at the scene, both men were immediately taken into custody and the devices they brought taken off of our streets.
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Aedeus2 days ago
+2
Did the tweet get scrubbed? Can't seem to find anything implying as much.
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LazyCon2 days ago
+22
I mean they're on the anti everyone side of this. They just wanted to blow up people. They are far right terrorists, just not the American far right
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ADP_God2 days ago
+1
Mamdani supporting terrorists…
But they support the Islamic state…
‘ While being taken to the police precinct, Balat allegedly said: “This isn’t a religion that just stands when people talk bad about … our prophet. We take action! We take action!
“If I don’t do it, someone else will come and do it,” he is also accused of saying.
Balat allegedly waived his right to stay silent. At the precinct, he purportedly wrote on a piece of paper: “All praise is due to Allah lord of all worlds! I pledge my allegience [sic] to the Islamic State. Die in your rage yu [sic] kuffar! Emir B.”
’
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Blamhammer2 days ago
+46
This story got moved off the front pages faster than it should have. And remember, they were trying to kill the protesters, mamdani was a non entity in this scenario
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RecordEnvironmental42 days ago
+50
People keep misunderstanding what these people were doing, they attempted to kill people protesting Mandami
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LaserGuidedPolarBear2 days ago
+16
The intent was not to kill people protesting Mamdani. Their stated intent was to kill anti-muslim people who happened to be protesting Mamdani. It was just a convenient gathering of their targets.
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TopDuck312 days ago
+9
Side note but that is the most Krusty the Klown hairstyle I’ve seen on a terrorist. Bro should start with a haircut first before ‘terror’.
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Kokumin2 days ago
+44
you mean the bomb he throw into anti-islamist protestor that happen to be protesting infront of mamdani house? and the bomb he hand of to his fellow terrorist. and the 2 bombs he packed in his car.
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Fair_Blood31762 days ago
+33
Recorded on a dashcam per the article.
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First_Lobster_36612 days ago
+5
Why the misleading title?
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LamppostBoy2 days ago
+17
ISIS never beating the allegations
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KillBologna2 days ago
+18
Headline: Teens who were influenced by Isis Extremist openly discussed plans to kill Right Wingers in an Anti-Islam protest.
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klitchell1 day ago
+12
I know they're using "teen" for engagement, but 19 is an adult. reading the headline leads you to believe some minor is doing this.
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LCAshin2 days ago
+28
And Allah said “not today my friends.” Enjoy prison lunatics
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FtWTaiChi2 days ago
+5
They talk like the Tracksuit Mafia from the Hawkeye comics.
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InvasiveAlbondigas2 days ago
+3
I hope these dudes have a good time spending the rest of their lives at ADX Florence
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EasternCandle2 days ago
+3
How lovely. What nice accelerationist pieces of trash.
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Sunsetmargaritas2 days ago
+7
>“I want to start terror, bro,”
If we're not going to execute these wastes of human dna, then let's at least send them to die in prison.
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SpacedAndBaked2 days ago
+10
News articles need to stop calling 19 year olds "teens", they are legal adults and are intentionally trying to make you think they are children.
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Shaky_handz2 days ago
+52
Well as someone who tries to not follow this bullshit too closely, this is different than the initial reports of far right bigots, white supremecist, racist ideology....
The news report from CNN was that two nice pennsylvania boys lives changed. Others said not to let this detract from far right danger, but at the same time the media purposefully obscured their own radical ideology and multiple news outlets ran with the fact it was rooted in islamophobia
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Bowl_of_Cham_Clowder2 days ago
+4
What are you talking about lol. First time hearing about this and the only reference to anti Islam in any of the initial reports from early March is that the attackers were related to isis, targeting anti-Islam protestors.
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Longjumping_Soil21162 days ago
+53
He's talking about a now deleted CNN tweet that was talking about the incident and began with
>Two Pennsylvania teenagers crossed into New York City Saturday morning for what could’ve been a normal day enjoying the city during abnormally warm weather. But in less than an hour, their lives would drastically change as the pair would be arrested for throwing homemade bombs during an anti-Muslim protest outside of Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s home.
They had the same text in an article as well, but were forced to change it
>[EDITOR’S NOTE: A previous version of this story included a summary that does not reflect the gravity of the incident, thereby breaching the editorial standards we require for all our reporting. It therefore has been changed.](https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/10/us/mamdani-gracie-mansion-protest-what-we-know)
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fevered_visions2 days ago
+16
> Two Pennsylvania teenagers crossed into New York City Saturday morning for what could’ve been a normal day enjoying the city during abnormally warm weather. But in less than an hour, their lives would drastically change as the pair would be arrested for throwing homemade bombs during an anti-Muslim protest outside of Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s home.
holy f***, talk about your "two ethnic teens with no active warrants found dead after officer-involved shooting" phrasing
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LetumComplexo2 days ago
+10
Aaaaand this is why you don’t publish AI summaries without double checking them.
Or, you know, at all.
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jcozac2 days ago
+53
Just look at the headline, it heavily points towards the bombing target being Mamdani instead of the real target being the protestors in the street.
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thatisnotmyknob2 days ago
+2
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poodinthepunchbowl2 days ago
+2
They should really have common sense bomb laws
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Whorsorer-Supreme2 days ago
+2
Why do they always look like THAT. They look like they were exposed to too much radiation in the womb
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Dairy_Ashford1 day ago
+2
shogun of 88th street
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Historical_Today50722 days ago
+8
Lock them AND their parents up
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reddurkel2 days ago
+9
Radicalization by billionaire owned news propaganda and an algorithm of disinformation.
These owbers should be held equally liable as the people who commit the acts.
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MuhammadAkmed2 days ago
+4
>Teens accused of bombing attempt at Mamdani home
Let's underplay the fact they're muslim terrorists, lets call them "teens" instead.
Also, lets make it sound like muslim Mamdani was the target and not the people who object to Islam, Islamism, and terrorism.
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