Teens get probation after using AI to create fake n**** of classmates

It's insane, the dark web changed overnight from a place you could find anything you wanted to nothing but crypto scams and CSAM.

Isn't possession of fake child p*** still child p***? Those idiots could be marked as pedophile which could cause issues in school for the next 5 or 6 years and cause issues with their future career path.

Setup is literally 10-30 minutes on even a decent gaming PC and then it's just a case of collecting reference material of the victim and p*** bodies to paste them onto. Each taking just a couple of seconds to make. This can be just an afternoon of work. And there are certainly people in discord channels who do it of famous people. Hell, that's probably going to be even easier because there is so much reference material (pictures of their face) online.

Glad my electricity goes up every year for this. 

Who said it’s like if the salmon invented the grizzly? Why did we do that, mate?

All that computing power to research cancer but in actuality it will just creat more

Don worry, the administration is trying to prevent states from regulating AI.

People have photoshopped fake n**** for decades. AI simply allows incompetent people to do it.

I’m over here shitting on every single pro-Suno AI post I see on Facebook lol… cause F*** generative AI in the arts. It’s basically sanctioned theft, as well as robbing people of their potential creativity.

Well I just found pictures of you filled with something else! /s

I f****** promise you the boys are not being counseled like that at all. Public schools are barely hanging on by a thread and the private/charter/whatever schools will protect the worst of their kind for funding.

As a teen girl myself, most of the time you don’t even have a choice for photos. My school made us take group photos of the school’s high achievers and if you took part in major volunteering events for their social media. There’s probably at least twelve images of me on their social media alone. I used to be embarrassed because my hair looked a mess but now I have this to worry about… at least I’m not concerned over my hair anymore.

I guess one way to approach it is that now if you legitimately have n**** leaked for whatever reason it’s really easy to just claim it’s all ai

Same. And knowing that these little fucks are getting nothing more than a slap on the wrist for the trauma they induce is infuriating. Really makes one think about how else justice can be served.

Counseling? Sure, as long as it takes place in a juvenile detention center. They victimized dozens of girls. They created child p**********. At 14, they were very much old enough to understand the gravity of what they were doing. The crime is heinous, they should be incarcerated.

> Hopefully the boys are getting some kind of counseling so they understand what they did and how it effects the victims. Agree. Curious what the parents take is? Some are angry, some are in denial their precious child would do such an thing....my guesses.

Even if those disgusting boys did there will be more that take their place at being disgusting. Will never end.

The worst part is I have zero clue of any potential solution to this. Every attempt at banning any internet based application has failed before. 

Sorry, all I can do is develop a new type of cancer that charges you rent.

They basically stopped working on any of that because they are throwing so much money at gen AI that there's nobody with any AI expertise left to work on actual good.

It’s giving blastemal cells huge t*** and cumshots

seems to be always the thing that if you do some crime in big enough scale the law stops working. same happens with many other things too like J. Paul Getty has that famous quote "If you owe the bank $100, that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem." also with lying, if some generally reputable guy gets caught for one small lie or maybe just inaccuracy/misunderstanding it might have a huge impact on their reputation, but then if some massive a-hole says nothing but lies people just tolerate it and work around it (case in point DJT). there's probably some named principle that covers these under one umbrella.

The people in power are pedophiles and you are not. Why would they make laws that infringe on their lifestyles?

A lot of it too

Charges and sentencing usually are when the defendant is also a child. Some studies suggest that ~20% of children 15 and older have created or shared CSAM. Of course when you’re a kid, you’re probably not thinking that “sending n****” is a crime because of your age. This is something that just about every school district has had to deal with at some point or another.

This is what gets me. You’ve got websites left and right putting crazy barriers for a child to even use the site, large social media banning even KIND of “adult” art (as in a drawing) from their platforms, even p*** sites refusing to host anything where the subject (photographic or illustrated)’s age is in question. All to avoid the legal/financial crack back that would come otherwise. But you can point Grok at a photo someone posted of a literal, actual, 10 year old child and say “put her in a bikini.” You can feed one of these programs a middle school yearbook photo and get it to spit out child p**********. And nothing happens. We just roll with it. It can’t be the AI’s fault because it doesn’t have agency. It’s not the company’s fault because they didn’t make it, they just provided the tools and hosted the image on their servers. But if I upload something ELSE illegal to these same websites, the website’s legally liable? I’d class it as the same thing we saw with electronic cigarettes, where the laws were so specifically about the actual tobacco that there was a legal loophole that had to be closed, but I’m pretty certain if photo realistic n**** of a middle schooler are gonna get someone in trouble even if the girl’s got 6 fingers and a hairline that blends with her ear. US law does make a distinction between artistic depictions and the real thing, but that none of the sites generating this stuff on command are in any way culpable the same way the law would hold YouTube culpable if they let me upload the MCU is one of those “make it make sense” moments. Other than “they’ve got enough money that they’re single handedly providing the illusion our economy is growing”, tell me why these companies aren’t being forced to either change their models so they stop making child p*** (even if the prompter asks pretty please) or being taken down until they can change the models to stop bypassing their own content filters when the prompter says the magic word.

There nothing stopping the people running these AI engines from using their own tools to make sure their users aren’t breaking the law.  If AI can be used to generate these images, it can be used to screen them before giving them to the user. 

There is more to read than what i pasted below. See link: https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-federal-law-child-p********** >Federal law prohibits the production, distribution, reception, and possession of an image of child p********** using or affecting any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce (See 18 U.S.C. § 2251; 18 U.S.C. § 2252; 18 U.S.C. § 2252A). Specifically, Section 2251 makes it illegal to persuade, induce, entice, or coerce a minor to engage in sexually explicit conduct for purposes of producing visual depictions of that conduct. Any individual who attempts or conspires to commit a child p********** offense is also subject to prosecution under federal law. . I wonder if below would legally apply as an interstate crime since the ai servers are likely not all within a state: . >**Federal jurisdiction is implicated if the child p********** offense occurred in interstate or foreign commerce.** This includes, for example, using the U.S. Mails or common carriers to transport child p********** across state or international borders. Additionally, federal jurisdiction almost always applies when the Internet is used to commit a child p********** violation. Even if the child p********** image itself did not travel across state or international borders, federal law may be implicated if the materials, such as the computer used to download the image or the CD-ROM used to store the image, originated or previously traveled in interstate or foreign commerce.

Kids creating child p***.

at the very least pedophile enablers.

Makes it pretty obvious that the only important thing is money (for the powers that be).

In the United States, an apology can land you in legal hot water. It can be construed as an admission of guilt. In this context, probably based on the advice of their lawyers due to potential civil lawsuits.

Not how "AI" works =/ It's just a big pile of linear algebra "trained" on lots of data. It don't have ethics. It don't even have concept of ethics. What you need is "AI" that newer "learned" how naked people look.

AI isn't a sentient being with morality, it's only good for what you train it for and it is used to save lives. GenAI was used in the medical field for imaging before chatgpt became public. The thing is the general public doesn't have use for using models that can enhance radiological imagery and diagnose illnesses, but they do have a use for it when it comes to making memes and p***. So this is the side of AI we are going to see much more often. 

"A.I." literally does not possess intelligence. You have been tricked by the naming convention pushed by corporate interests.

AI doesn't think. It's strings

At least until we get a functioning government again that might pass some laws regulating AI.

There are specific models that exist to only create pornographic content. There are entire companies built around those models nowadays.

Add to your list of questions the confusing and appealingly contradictory nature of regulations. Just recently (today?) the US Supreme Court ruled ISPs aren’t liable for any illegal downloads coming through their systems *even if they can identify that traffic as likely being of that nature* Then you have about half the states requiring uploading actual ID to view adult websites. But anyone can use these AI generators to make CSAM. Then add in the massive amounts of CSAM in all but name in things like anime/manga fandoms. What these kids was clearly wrong and they should have known it was wrong, but also I could see where someone growing up with this technology might have a bit of an issue finding the line. Edit: also add from today, the social media companies like Meta being found negligent in social media addiction trial.

This isn't in any way "doodling in your note book" and even trying to compare the two is bad faith at best. This f***** created hundreds of images of his underaged classmates without their consent using AI.

Actually insane to me that so many people are defending this. Is this a psyop? Wtf is going on!

Should be a day community service for each image.

This is the answer. These “boys” knew what they were doing was very wrong, they expressed no remorse, and they ruined the lives of these girls. But f*** the victims cuz they’re just “pictures” and they’re just “teenage girls,” right? People in these comments seem to think a single sentence of probation is enough and “they’re just 14, how could their poor underdeveloped frontal lobes KNOW it was wrong??” Except the internet is forever, those pictures are forever, and they WILL reoffend. They shouldn’t be let near a computer until they’re 25 and their brains ARE developed if this is how they act at 14. This sentence is a slap on the wrist by a fellow male who just used “boys will be boys” as an excuse. One girl needed trauma therapy, many have expressed panic and anxiety attacks, several are terrified the pictures will pop back up when they’re trying to get jobs, many girls had to transfer districts. But they’re female so f*** them, they’ll get over it, right? We wouldn’t want to ruin the lives of these 14 year old teens over some silly pictures! Also, you incels and fellow 14 year olds can downvote people all you want. I hope one day you have daughters and it’s their face on some graphic p*** plastered all over their high school. Idiots.

A complete banishment from technology isn't viable in the modern times. There was a court case in my state like, 10-15 years ago where the courts sentenced a man convicted of CSAM offenses to literally never use a computer again for the rest of his life. The higher courts, back then, struck it down as a punishment that can't be given because even back then, computers were too integral for daily life and it was too vague of a punishment with how increasingly common computers were becoming. They kicked the case back down the lower courts to resentence the offender and they had to settle for making him install monitoring software on any devices he had instead and make it so he can only use computers for education and employment related reasons. If that was the thought process 10-15 years ago, I can only imagine similar things would be said now.

I don't know what the appropriate sentence is here, but non-violent crime committed by 14 year olds with clean records? Probation and community service is pretty standard and not at all surprising. Should we punish kids more harshly? Maybe. Not really an expert.

People don’t give enough agency to 14 year old boys. There’s enough free p*** out there to watch non-stop for a 100 lifetimes. Literally. Not to mention image generation of things that don’t involve people you know. This isn’t some stupid shit like getting high. This isnt a victimless crime. Going out of your way to generate some of your classmates is vile. It shows a complete lack of humanity, and a complete disregard as seeing those girls as human beings with their own feelings and body autonomy. F*** probation. I knew kids who got probation and community service just for underage drinking. Let them get Juvenile detention with a record cleaning at 18, they can get their GED after. And lock up the image generator ai execs too

What do YOU think is appropriate?

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They're teenagers. If you were to pick a single phrase that encompasses the things teenagers do, "dumb shit" would be first on most's peoples list. I'm not defending perverts, I'm saying they're dumb f****** kids and yeah, probation / community service absolutely was the appropriate sentence. I'm entirely unclear how more severe penalties - incarceration would be the next step up, right? - would help anything.

"Oh look people didn't immediately agree with me so I gotta edit my post to acknowledge it".

> Edit: Oh look the pervert defender squad has rolled in with the downvotes. Nobody's defending perverts and that you have to strawman literally everyone responding to you with this kinda shows you're unserious and mostly care about satisfying your own desire for revenge than actual reformative justice. Stop letting your emotions rule you.

To be honest, at 14 I was both horny and stupid enough to try such a prank if the tech existed back then. Yes, I would deserve punishment, I won't deny. (We had to make cuneiform p*** back in my day, snuck it behind the oxen shack. I'm sure the Great Anu shall punish me, might explain the cataracts.)

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