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General Mar 25, 2026 at 6:18 PM

Texas will require proof of legal immigration status to get professional licenses

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https://www.keranews.org/texas-news/2026-03-25/texas-will-require-proof-of-legal-immigration-status-to-get-professional-licenses

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AngelsAteMyBaby Mar 25, 2026 +385
Relevant comment here: in most states being a barber requires a licence. So, this isn't just engineers and doctors and the like.
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Rednys Mar 25, 2026 +161
The first picture is literally of barbers scissors.
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putsch80 Mar 25, 2026 +65
Also applies to things like [estheticians](https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/barbering-and-cosmetology/individuals/apply-esthetician.htm). Lots and lots of people in that profession are immigrants.
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flare_force Mar 26, 2026 +3
Yet another stupid move by a state led by idiots. Not only will the service community take a hit but the medical community surely will as well. Just such a massively dumb move and yet another self inflicted move due to racism and ignorance.
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austeninbosten Mar 27, 2026 +2
I see you are being downvoted by some thin skinned Texans.
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Animal_Courier Mar 26, 2026 -2
Landlords, restaurants, grocery stores, literally everything you can think of suffers. Literal government policy of negative GDP growth. I am not one of those economists who thinks that graph goes up means world gooder. But there are some truths to the idea that graph goes up means world gooder. And these xenophobic nativists are going to find out the hard way if they actually go all in on ethnic cleansing. Going after the jobs has always been the easiest path to getting rid of these people, and Republicans, for all their bluster and for all the chaos they sow, and for all the nasty deportation raids they do, they've never been willing to do what it actually takes to do ethnic cleansing because they understood that it would f*** with the economy. Good luck Texas I hope it goes terrible, I hope you bite your hang nails because you can't get an appointment, go to urgent care and wait 8 hours at which point they have to chop your finger off because it took to long for you to be seen. Enjoy ethnically cleansing Texas, last time you did it you illegally imported a fuckton of slaves are you going to call up your friends in the Gulf of Arabia and run that play back too? The moral depravity of America right now makes me sick.
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keznaa Mar 26, 2026 +5
>LEGAL immigration is great Being here legally isn't even enough to keep ICE from detaining and deporting people.
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putsch80 Mar 26, 2026 +3
Oh, is that why ICE is regularly targeting LEGAL immigrants?
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raistan77 Mar 26, 2026
trump has openly stated he wants to get rid of "home grown immigrants" no more people from "shithole" countries and to close the doors on any immigrations except from Sweden or Norway (oh and the WHITES ONLY population of South Africa) the administration is getting sued by US CITIZENS THAT WERE LITERALLY DEPORTED. So take you bone headed nonsense lies elsewhere.
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CFBCoachGuy Mar 26, 2026 +35
Occupational licensing is f****** insanity. These can expand to almost any profession in existence. To cut hair you need a cosmetology license, which requires paying almost $20,000 in tuition to a beauty school. 13 states do not exempt hair braiders from cosmetology licenses. Almost half of states require a license to be an interior designer. Until last year Louisiana required a license to be a florist- with the florist exam harder to pass than the bar exam. In Maine, it takes over two years to be a licensed travel guide. 12 states require a license to operate an industrial scale. 28 states require an auctioneering license (Kentucky’s takes over a year to acquire). 37 states require licensing to be a makeup artist. 34 states to be an unarmed security guard. Every state in the union requires a license to be a manicurist. Roughly half of all low- and middle-income jobs require a license, which takes an average of 350 days to qualify for.
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finny_d420 Mar 26, 2026 +34
Yet you can be a LEO or ICE with half the amount of hours needed to get some of those licenses.
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Tardy_Thoughts Mar 26, 2026 +9
You can be an ice goon with only 47 days off training. In 47 days they teach you to ignore the Constitution, murder people in the streets and kidnap children to be used as bait. I think that they call it the trump training program.
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Animal_Courier Mar 26, 2026 +5
Somebody I work with is a middle aged maga wife. She's almost completely disconnected from actual political news so it's entirely ignorance and vibes, not malice, and I do give her credit for the difference. Her husband is a cop. Our workplace issued a Know Your Rights statement. We've talked just a little about politics so she asked me about it. Why are they telling us the difference between a judicial and administrative warrant. Why are they giving employees the option to have a separate emergency contact for if they are detained than for if they are injured or sick? Is it because of the ICE stuff. I explained to her that I have a lot of respect for most cops, but that since Trump was elected ICE has hired tens of thousands of new agents. I told her that they get 47 days of training to enforce specialized and complicated immigration law. She was shocked, her eyes immediately popped. She knows how hard her husband worked to get his badge, 47 days. They have the power to detain anybody in America for the color of their skin, or their accent, or their work, if those features mean they might be an immigrant. They have the ability to deport people they detain without ever presenting them to a judge. They have invented those administrative warrants to try to confuse people into thinking they are as legally binding as a judicial warrant but they are not. When your husband gets a warrant he has to get it signed by a judge these guys just slap the word warrant on a piece of paper and waive it around and try to intimidate people into doing what they want. Another co-worker was a homie and asked a question, "So if they aren't real cops can we like, fight back if they try to grab somebody." I earned credibility with her on this. Oh no dude don't do that they are federal agents. They may not be trained. They may not follow the law. They may be thugs. But their badge carries legal protections with it, and their bullets hurt just as bad as any others. That information is really important to drill down on law & order types of people. A lot of people have family who have been in law enforcement. They find this shocking and offensive. It is breaking through, and I encourage everybody to make this one of their regular talking points with "normie" disengaged folks.
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Snakend Mar 26, 2026 -20
Illegal immigrants should not be working in the USA. I'm a democrat and I think we are going to have an employment crisis soon, and it might already be here. Allowing illegal immigrants to come work is going to backfire so bad on us.
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calmdownmyguy Mar 26, 2026 +14
Bro doesn't know about the last half century
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AuroraFinem Mar 26, 2026 +6
The labor shortage isn’t going to be in minimum/tipped wage jobs. We need to manage our immigration but this is a well established falsehood about it. Illegal immigrants take jobs Americans won’t take, we’ve seen massive labor shortages in agriculture, construction, and many other jobs commonly filled by immigrants, legal or not, while facing job shortages in skilled sectors facing layoffs due to AI and the economy. Illegal immigration issues have been almost entirely invented by the right, we’ve managed our immigration entirely sufficiently without the rights’s cruelty or adding extra hoops for legal immigrants to jump through just to exist in our country.
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Snakend Mar 26, 2026 -1
It's going to hit everyone dude. Its already destroying the rideshare market and food delivery. It's going to start hitting everything.
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DingerSinger2016 Mar 26, 2026 +2
That's going great for the farming industry.
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Independent-Reader Mar 26, 2026 +2
I am an independent. Illegal immigrants working in the US is really no different than citizens working in the US. The only difference is in the documentation. If we can't handle a few million more immigrants (people), why the f*** are we still having babies? If you want to know what will really topple our country from within, it's the corruption and mismanagement in our government. It's the trillions of dollars that go up that never come back down.
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Seayont Mar 26, 2026 -5
Were talking about legal immigrants, except ICE will arrest either one regardless.
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Snakend Mar 26, 2026 +2
Those people are still allowed to work. This does not change that.
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joozyan Mar 26, 2026 +17
Ironic since the right have traditionally been the vocal opponents of occupational licensing regulations.
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calmdownmyguy Mar 26, 2026 +16
It's not ironic when you realize that conservatives don't mean anything that they say.
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Animal_Courier Mar 26, 2026 +2
The Country Club guys held them off for 40 years but the party belongs to the Nativists right now. They're still mad Reagan didn't let them do ethnic cleansing and they're going to make the most of this opportunity, consequences be damned.
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Jason_Was_Here Mar 26, 2026 +4
Ok? So what’s your point? Illegal immigrants should be allowed to hold professional licenses? The law isn’t preventing immigrants from getting these. If they’re here legally they’ll have the documentation to provide to get their licenses. It’s to prevent ILLEGAL immigrants from doing so. Which from the typical persons point of view is completely reasonable.
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belortik Mar 26, 2026 +5
Oh no they have to file an I-9 with their license paperwork like every other job out there.
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superultramegazord Mar 26, 2026 +19
I think this is already required in many states. I recently applied for PE licensure in AZ and had to provide documentation proving citizenship/legal status as part of the application.
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MagicalTrianglez Mar 25, 2026 +467
As a European: you mean you weren’t ALREADY doing this?
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MilesHighClub_ Mar 25, 2026 +328
Last year Texas voted to make it illegal for non-citizens to vote It was already illegal
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serial_crusher Mar 25, 2026 +70
The key difference here is that they made it an amendment to the state constitution, which would then take another amendment to potentially overrule. Amendments go to an election by the people whereas regular laws can be made and unmade by the legislature. It’s like a law that’s carved in stone vs one that’s written on paper. There was talk among some politicians about changing the law to allow non-citizens to vote in local elections, and the amendment was a move to pre-empt that.
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heartbooks26 Mar 26, 2026 +8
It was already in the TX state constitution that you had to be a citizen to vote… in fact, it was already in the state constitution TWICE. So now it’ll be in there a 3rd, unnecessary time….. You’re falling for racist propaganda.
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randynumbergenerator Mar 25, 2026 -31
Yeah I'm going to need a citation for the claim in that last paragraph. Which politicians were talking about it? Edit: love2B down voted for asking someone to back up a claim.
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ArchmageXin Mar 25, 2026 +22
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/20/new-york-noncitizen-voting-blocked-00240007 New York was considering this but was blocked by the courts, my guess is Texas tried to stop that.
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randynumbergenerator Mar 26, 2026 -13
Texas laws don't apply in California, and vice versa.
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ArchmageXin Mar 26, 2026 +14
Is performative law making. "we definitely will stop letting the illegals vote"
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k9moonmoon Mar 25, 2026 +18
I believe in some areas like California it's allowed for non citizens to vote in local elections like school board etc since they are legal residents in that area.
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Sacred-Lambkin Mar 26, 2026 +5
There are, in fact, two parts of California that allow non citizens parents and guardians to vote in school board matters. Washington DC allows non citizens to vote in local matters. Also to be clear, you don't have to be a citizen in order to be a resident, even in Texas.
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jonfitt Mar 26, 2026 +2
Makes sense. They pay taxes and participate in the local community. Remember approximately 12.8m people are in the US as legal *permanent* residents. All being taxed without representation.
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randynumbergenerator Mar 26, 2026 -11
But California isn't Texas. 
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boxfortcommando Mar 26, 2026 +7
Californians move to Texas, though, and don't leave their ideas at the door. Same as any other state with migrants from other states.
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Veighnerg Mar 26, 2026 +3
Do we have numbers of the political affiliation ratio of Californians that move to Texas? In my experience I've met far more that were right leaning than were left leaning. One of those is really into disenfranchising voters all across the US.
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boxfortcommando Mar 26, 2026
I'd wager it's more economic factors than political (I'm not diminishing that factor though). California is an expensive state to live in, and Texas' big selling point over the last few years has been low COL and abundant housing by comparison. If your household income isn't in the six figure range it's not hard to see why states outside California would look more appealing to families scraping by, or just looking for more affordable living.
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atomicskiracer Mar 26, 2026 +2
Texas loves perforative politics, they love it more than a functional power grid
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DarkerSavant Mar 26, 2026 +6
No, no we don’t. Don’t understand these sweeping claims like there isn’t a portion of the population caught on the wrong side of shit.
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raziphel Mar 27, 2026 +1
So do something about it
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tamal4444 Mar 26, 2026 +1
What the?
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PracticalYellow3 Mar 26, 2026
Washington state finally just made it illegal to vote twice. The media lied and claimed it was already illegal even though people who weren’t morons knew the democrats here wanted it legal. Then a judge ruled that the democrats made it legal here so just last week we finally got it outlawed with the help of that other party. 
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swollennode Mar 25, 2026 +46
A lot of employees for a trade company operate under the company’s license. Very rarely will the actual employee gets checked for a license. It’s the owner that gets asked to produce a license.
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randynumbergenerator Mar 25, 2026 +5
But employees are already required to attest to their immigration status, and employers are required to check immigration status before hiring. Requiring it again for a license just seems like more paperwork, but Republicans get to appear to be "tough on immigration."
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swollennode Mar 25, 2026 +21
Employers are required to check, sure, but they also love c**** labor. So they have no problem hiring undocumented immigrants and paying them under the table. And they also vote for republicans who are out to get rid of their c**** labor. Make that make sense
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randynumbergenerator Mar 26, 2026 +6
They vote for Republicans who are out to make life difficult for the undocumented, which means employers can use the threat of reporting them to ICE to ensure they can work undocumented immigrants to the bone, steal their wages, etc. 
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mschuster91 Mar 25, 2026 +2
>And they also vote for republicans who are out to get rid of their c**** labor. They vote for someone "promising to get rid of the criminals" and then act surprised when the government they voted for does much much more than that. Although big labor (aka agriculture) was even able to get away. ICE started roughing up farms because they knew there were a lot of easy hits to make - and that ended *fast* after farmers started to protest. That's when ICE moved to Minneapolis.
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RellenD Mar 25, 2026 +3
Because Democrats will give those laborers a better shot at some kind of legal status, removing the employer's ability to use deportation as a threat.
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Weak_Bowl_8129 Mar 26, 2026 +2
It's not more paperwork, it's less. Licensing bodies need to verify your identity anyways. Why not verify work authorization at the same time. Then you can apply for and work multiple jobs while your license is valid, without having to prove your authorization to work, your license covers it
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teh_maxh Mar 26, 2026 +1
They're not getting rid of the old paperwork just because there's new paperwork.
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hypersonic18 Mar 26, 2026 +1
You are assuming corporations are act in good fait, which we already know can't be further from the truth
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AudibleNod Mar 25, 2026 +73
Texas probably is. This is just posturing for MAGA. 2% is likely a clerical error or a case of misrepresenting legal residents' (green card holders) application process.
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TaylorFarmsSaladKit Mar 25, 2026 +37
You’re making an assertion without knowing what you’re talking about. Texas was not requiring SSNs to receive these licenses since 2001. This rule change brings us in line with federal law.
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DreadyKruger Mar 25, 2026 +1
So why is one of the largest states, boarding a country where illegals pour in didn’t have this before?
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TaylorFarmsSaladKit Mar 25, 2026 +8
Ask John Cornyn. When he was AG back in 01, he made the decision.
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Animal_Courier Mar 26, 2026 -1
So Texas is a former Mexican territory. Americans moved in, illegally imported slaves, were able to outcompete their lawful free ranching neighbors and when Mexico decided to try to enforce the law they threw and insurrection, murdered the soldiers who were sent to put them down and declared independence. They decided to join America, which allowed them to bring in some Yankee boys to help them settle a territorial dispute over a little sliver of the land that they violently conquered a few years earlier, because they didn't get enough from their slaving and their murdering. The Mexican Army took a few potshots at those guys, so the Americans went a slaughtering and took the entire Southwest. The border is f****** stupid. Communities there go back way before the war. The economies are intertwined. In some places the border literally cuts through buildings, streets, and infrastructure. These are not places that geography wants divided they belong together. And America has always taken our freedoms seriously. We believe in inalienable HUMAN rights, not citizen rights. These HUMAN rights are enshrined in our constitution. We don't hassle people without cause. Of course we've always had our nativists. They panicked that Mexicans were causing wage loss during the 1930s. Border Security was increased. At some point in the 20th century the United States made the first people illegal for the crime of living how they always did - we made it a misdemeanor to cross the border without authorization - and we opened a single Border Patrol station in El Paso where you can apply for a Visa. Overnight tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of people along a 3000 mile border became criminals because of a law they had no vote in, had no awareness of, for which they did not change their behavior in the slightest, and which many of them were never, ever made aware of. They accidentally made their children criminals too by crossing this invisible line in the sand drawn up by some assholes in Washington on whim. With all due respect for law and order the Southwest did nothing wrong by ignoring what those dumbass Congressman had done and continue living life as though nothing had changed. We got our first round of deportations going during the Eisenhower Presidency. It lasted about two years and was quietly shut down. Bussing minorities to large camps was a little to similar to a lot of the shit people hated about the 1940s. Ethnic Cleansing came back in the 70s. The Vietnam War caused stagflation to plague the American Economy, and in classic fashion the warmongers took zero responsibility and blamed immigrants. The nativists were ascendant, and going into the 1980 election they were licking their lips to get a bite of the apple when the most unfortunate thing happened to their cause. Ronald Reagan, a Californian, and George Bush, a Texan, were atop the Republican Party. Back then, neither state had a strong nativist wing. We're the southwestern states... real natives of the southwest love our Mexican neighbors. Neither Reagan nor Bush had the stomach for ethnic cleansing, and they both spoke up forcefully in defense of the rights of human beings. Reagan was a truly wonderful communicator. He said that Americans are born every day and some of them are even born in America. He said that in the history of every American family is somebody who became an American by choice, not by birth. He said that if we ever close the door on new Americans, our leadership in the world will be lost. He said that immigrants keep America forever young. He said that anyone from any corner of the earth can come live in America and be an American. He compared us to a City on the Hill, and said that if we must have walls, we must always have open doors. We got a comprehensive immigration reform, the last and most recent one, during the Reagan years. Unfortunately, as great of a communicator as he was I think he passed a bad law. He tried to please everybody and bridge the gap between the nativists in his party and his values. The deal was pitched as amnesty for security - on it's face not a bad concept! But they were never serious about security. For all the bluster of the nativists, the adults in the Republican Party knew there was no way to secure that 3,000 mile long border, and they knew that the way of life in these communities would be seriously harmed by an extreme security state. The cost to the government would be enormous it would be one of the federal government's biggest annual expenses and to solve what problem exactly? Communities living normal American lives on either side of the Mexican and United States borders? It wasn't pragmatic, it wasn't worth it. It was well known then that no wall or fence or security force could do the job. The only way to secure the border was to go for the jobs. The nativists wanted every employer to be required to verify people's immigration status with the federal government. The adults in the Republican Party refused. We got a bill that promised a "secure" border, but made no serious attempt to actually achieve it. We got amnesty, but reduced reliable paths to residency and citizenship for all future immigrants. Enter: Fox News. Enter: The Internet. The nativists were mad and they fought back in the press. They were promised security after all, and they knew they were robbed. They told the American people horror stories. A murder by an illegal! Cover that thing 24/7 for a week. DRUGS! They're coming in through the border! As if any society in human history has ever been able to eradicate drug use. Fox News spread fear of immigrants bringing disease, and guns, and crime and drugs and all manner of ill will and they cherry picked any story they could find and blasted it for all the country bumpkin to see from Montana to Iowa to Boston. California and Texas went different ways during this time, I don't know why to be honest. I'm happy and proud to be in California where we stand ten toes down for our neighbors. I don't know what went wrong in Texas - perhaps the oil baron/FBI Director was more popular across the country than he was in Texas and they were always like this. In California we had a governor try to pass a law that would have gone a long ways towards ethnically cleansing California. The Republican Party has won 2 statewide races in the 30+ years since that dumbfuck decision. Texas has obviously taken a more hardline stance, as this So that's the situation as Trump enters the scene. A perfectly fine border. Nativists bitching and moaning for their Congress to do something to fix it. A Congress passing feckless law after feckless law that they say will fix it but never changes anything, because anybody who studies the issue closely realizes nothing needs to be changed. The media landscape - transformed by cable news and the internet, pushing more extreme content, conspiracy theories and hate than the country had seen since the rise of the telegraph. Every president in my lifetime has tried to pass a new comprehensive immigration law to modernize the piece of c*** Republicans passed in the 80s. Every single one has earned broad bipartisan support, but has inevitably been tanked by Republicans. The Democrats have entirely and completely caved FYI, The Democrats aren't the party of the Southwest and they don't defend my neighbors at all. They are more than willing to make that invisible line in the sand as inconvenient as possible for people to cross, to monitor and to track everybody who does. They support immigration quotas which are way too low, pathways to residency and citizenship that are too expensive and take way too long. They used to ask for guaranteed pathways to citizenship for non-criminals, but in the Biden Compromise they literally only asked for a pathway to citizenship for a very small group of immigrants known as "Dreamers," and to increase the number of judges and lawyers who worked these court cases so that wait times wouldn't take literal decades, plural. Trump told Republicans he wanted to campaign on the issue. He told them that he didn't care that they got everything they wanted because winning in 2024 was more important to him. And Republicans, loyal to an audience of one did what he said. Because here's the thing about nativists that's true in the United States and is true of nativists all over the world. They desire most of all to do violence. There is no compromise to sate their bloodlust. Every few generations they must go nuts and unleash themselves upon others. That's why Texas hasn't had this law before. Because it isn't necessary. It's a violation of human rights and dignity. Because the Texas community, like the entire southwest, is a community bonded together, a community which cannot be - well it should not be - divided by some dumbass line drawn by warmongers in Washington.
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nrith Mar 25, 2026 +39
100%. You have to provide a social security number for all sorts of things, so I’m not sure how you’d get something like a professional license without one. Maybe the 2% are forgeries, but even that seems unlikely.
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TaylorFarmsSaladKit Mar 25, 2026 +9
That is actually what has been happening though. We haven’t required them since ‘01.
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Animal_Courier Mar 26, 2026 +2
Lots of immigrants, including "illegals" have Social Security Number or ITINs, regularly pay taxes, and are very well documented. The United States immigration laws are aggressively stupid. Actually, not even stupid. There's no way to describe how bad they are. They're written by dumbfuck nativists in places like Iowa and Boston and Nebraska that are far from the Southwestern border. The dumbfuck nativists get to Congress and realize oh... securing that border would require like a WWII level commitment of resources we won't do that thank god my nativist constituents are dumbfucks I'll make immigration more illegal while committing zero money to actually enforce anything that'll trick them. So the system has just completely broken and twisted itself into knots finding a way to accomodate an increasingly "illegal" immigrant population that is well documented and otherwise law abiding, peaceful, hardworking members of their community. This is the genesis of sanctuary state laws. Some police officers in some places took a nativist approach and started harassing their non-citizen populations. This enraged local communities who told them no, absolutely not, it's one thing if Congress wants to spend money to send some country bumpkin to the desert to do this stupid job but there ain't no way they're going to make us treat our neighbors like anything less than neighbors. Its a relatively recent shift for Texas to become this nativist - the entire Bush family was very pro immigrant (though the younger took a harder line on "security", and signed the Patriot Act despite warnings that it would be a nifty little weapon in the hands of a future nativist seeking to do ethnic cleansing...
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FillFrontFloor Mar 25, 2026 +11
As someone that lives in the US I also though it was a no shit Sherlock type of requirement also they should be in good standing before being given a license or a renewed one.
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traumalt Mar 25, 2026 +12
I was shocked to learn that in a lot of states you can get a drivers licence without having to prove that you have legal status in the US to begin with.
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GuaranteedCougher Mar 26, 2026
As an American I'm not sure how I even prove my legal status? 
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ermagerditssuperman Mar 26, 2026 +12
Birth certificate showing you were born in the US Social security card Passport Basically any of the documents you can submit with an i9 when you start a job.
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KartFacedThaoDien Mar 26, 2026 +3
Americans need a birth certificate and or social security card for an ID card. People on student visas also need to provide info showing they are on a student visa for a driver's license. 
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HereInTheCut Mar 25, 2026 +20
Texas is a global innovator in performative bullshit.
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Weak_Bowl_8129 Mar 26, 2026 +2
Or Canadian. Or American. Businesses are legally barred from employing people that don't have citizenship/green card/work visa. Licensing bodies had a loophole?
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askalotlol Mar 26, 2026 +1
Yes, there's a loophole, and not just for liscensing bodies. Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers (ITIN) If you do not have a social security number you can get an ITIN. It's an alternative to a SSN, but it can be obtained by illegal immigrants as well as legal ones. So if an employer, or in this case a liscensing agency, is not explicitly required by law to verify citizenship (which costs money) then they will accent the ITIN for tax identification.
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SorensicSteel Mar 25, 2026 +6
Are you starting to understand why some of the U.S. is upset with illegal immigration
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Uncle_Paul_Hargis Mar 25, 2026 +6
Exactly - this is why the outrage to stuff like this always feels overblown. Most of the time it seems like common sense. Phrased another way would sound insane, "We allow people that are in the country illegally the ability to obtain professional licenses..." It makes no sense, because you need a legal status in the country to be legally allowed to work.
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wahoozerman Mar 25, 2026 -8
This is an efficiency problem. Proof of legal status is required to work. Therefore requiring proof of legal status to acquire professional licenses is a waste of tax dollars. Why pay for it twice? The problem is that workplaces requiring these certifications don't verify legal status for employment. This is very performative when Texas still hasn't implemented EVerify.
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oakseaer Mar 26, 2026 +1
No, most EU countries don’t require a license to be a hair stylist, barber, etc. Additionally, in the few countries that do require a license, they don’t require citizenship, only a work permit.
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EX0PIL0T Mar 26, 2026 +1
Suicidal empathy will take you to places you never knew could exist
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sirbrambles Mar 25, 2026 -15
Why would I care about the immigration status of the person cutting my hair? Edit: do you think they were licensing undocumented engineers and doctors? If you know much about Texas you can infer this is going after Mexican barbers and Vietnamese nail techs.
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Mend1cant Mar 25, 2026 +8
There is a practical aspect to it. A professional license in this case is the government recognizing that a person has met the requirements and standards to provide acceptable services. Regardless of profession, that certificate is unique to each person or organization. If someone is undocumented, there is no record for the government to use to verify that. If I hire an unlicensed electrician to do work and they burn my house down, I can’t easily sue them for damages because there isn’t a government sponsored document that says they knew better. Conversely, it protects the professional to say that they were acting within the standards of their profession. All of that backed by the government, and if there isn’t a record of someone, the government can’t effectively do that.
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sirbrambles Mar 25, 2026 -1
You can get an ITIN (essentially an SSN for people that do not qualify for an SSN) without being a legal resident. The term undocumented is somewhat misleading.
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Mend1cant Mar 25, 2026 +2
True, but that’s for the sake of accounting, not necessarily the full legal backing and protections of the government. It’s why visas exist to begin with. It’s a government sponsorship to the certifying organization so that everyone involved can be comfortable that standards and regulations are being met. It’s really hard for a government to justify giving someone the thumbs up that they are performing their job correctly if they can’t say that they are here with permission.
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sirbrambles Mar 25, 2026 -4
These licenses come with identification numbers. If the person has completed the necessary course work and do not have any complaints on their license I do not care if they have permission to be here. Is there a single incident stemming from this 2% of licenses given to undocumented immigrants to point to?
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Mend1cant Mar 25, 2026 +4
The problem is that you have no official way of proving that it is the person on the license even if all sense says that everything is true. It’s not a wide ranging problem beyond that 2% because licensing organizations are policing themselves across multiple states that already do require an SSN.
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sirbrambles Mar 25, 2026 +1
That’s just not true. People without SSNs can still get valid ID in the United States
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HervG Mar 26, 2026
They are. As a Canadian living in USA now, I have had to prove I was working legally in the four different states when I applied for my engineering license(s). This is all preforming for the base.
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AudibleNod Mar 25, 2026 +123
>Steve Bruno, the agency’s deputy executive director for licensing and regulatory services, told commissioners that fewer than 2% of the licenses issued by the agency did not have a Social Security number attached to them. I imagine a reasonable portion of that 2% was due to either a clerical error or Steve Bruno is obfuscating the fact that it's simple a ITIN for legal residents. Regardless, 2% isn't the rampant, unchecked 'migrints steeeling our jerbs' that MAGA makes it out to be.
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kevthewev Mar 25, 2026 +12
That’s 60k licenses based on the data
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sirbrambles Mar 25, 2026 +7
In a state with 32 million people
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kevthewev Mar 25, 2026 -9
M I’m missing the point you are making?
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ThePensioner Mar 26, 2026 +13
This isn’t rocket science. I’m pretty sure you know exactly the point and choose not to care about the validity of the argument and just want to advocate the sentiment. The point is that it’s an insignificant amount of error/misuse/fraud/insert boogeyman here to make a significant change. Kind of like the election fraud horseshit going around the conservative circles. Have fun posting the same comment as a reply to three separate people though.
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kevthewev Mar 26, 2026 -1
Ya I know it’s not rocket science, but I’m not sure why they responded with the states population. Not every person in Texas is getting a license. That being said, I was just put the percentage into a number, and I agree with you? Where are you getting all that nonsense? I like knowing shit, like how many licenses is 2% of the total amount of licenses granted? Maybe others would too, so I posted the data.
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NWStormbreaker Mar 26, 2026 +2
You attempted to add context to the numbers and so did they. Your response came off as defensive though, probly why negative?
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kevthewev Mar 26, 2026 -2
Ya I can see how it comes off like that, I just didn’t/still don’t understand the context that noting the state population adds given the subject. Oh well, Clearly I’m missing something here 😂
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randynumbergenerator Mar 25, 2026 +2
It's 2 percent.
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kevthewev Mar 25, 2026
Yes, 60k is 2% based on the data
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Jabberwocky2022 Mar 25, 2026 -1
Even taking them at their point, let's say 2% are undocumented immigrants. Wouldn't that cause a reduction in labor and increase costs more for folks getting services done? It seems inflationary if they're right and even if they're wrong it puts more red tape hurdles in front of honest Americans, also causing inflation and adding the bureaucracy they *claim* to hate so much.
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BestYak6625 Mar 25, 2026 -7
Supply and demand causing the price of labor to increase isn't inflationary
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IzzyIsMyQueen0604 Mar 25, 2026 +7
Yes it is? Inflation is rising prices, not a mechanism that raises prices.
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randynumbergenerator Mar 25, 2026 +3
IDK how they think inflation happens, maybe they think it's magic?
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IzzyIsMyQueen0604 Mar 25, 2026 +3
It’s like inflation is a force that happens and not the result of forces lol. I don’t get it either.
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BestYak6625 Mar 25, 2026
Inflation is the relative value of money decreasing, not prices rising. Labor becoming valuable due to a scarcity is the value of labor increasing and not the value of money decreasing. Things that increase the amount of money in circulation like over printing of currency relative to GDP and increased loans over the amount of real money are inflationary. 
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IzzyIsMyQueen0604 Mar 25, 2026 +4
This is a distinction without a difference. All else equal, high prices = lower value of money. If prices for a service in an area go up because a shortage of labor, that is absolutely inflation. Can you give an example of the value of money decreasing without prices going up?
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BestYak6625 Mar 25, 2026
It's not the value of money decreasing without raising prices, it's prices increasing without inflation. The difference is infltaion raises all prices, supply and demand raises a specific price. The price of specific labor in an area going up because of a shortage doesn't make the price of bread and gas go up. Saying it's inflationary implies a widespread effect on the general value of your money which is not what is happening. 
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IzzyIsMyQueen0604 Mar 25, 2026 +6
Inflation is “the general increase in prices of goods and services over time”. All else equal, the price of a service going up is an “increase in prices of goods and services”. You don’t have to have the price of bread also go up for there to be inflation. Inflation indexes track a broad basket of goods and some go up and some go down, but there is still “inflation”
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BestYak6625 Mar 25, 2026
Yes it's a general increase measured via a broad basket of goods. This is a specific price increase. It's not specifically bread that needs to go up, it's the general price of the goods in the basket. The price of a service going up is not a general increase. Read the definition you're going to post next time.
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IzzyIsMyQueen0604 Mar 25, 2026 +5
lol no. If any component goes up, all else equal, your money gets you less. Fact. It doesn’t have to be a bunch of different things, though it can be and is. If there are two goods, food and housing, and food goes up, that’s inflation. Because the overall basket went up, even if some sub components didn’t. Unless you are arguing something would go down to offset it.
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redvsbluewarthog Mar 25, 2026 +36
Shouldn't it be required in every state? Seems like it to me
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aaronhayes26 Mar 26, 2026 -14
Idk if someone is otherwise qualified I’m not sure we need to make people prove their status in every conceivable step of life. Just seems like a huge burden for not a lot of gain.
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21Hotdogs21 Mar 26, 2026 +4
Damn if you have all THAT and still lost a job to an undocumented individual maybe ur just unemployable lol
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Weak_Bowl_8129 Mar 26, 2026 +2
What does your sexual orientation have to do with work authorization
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zzyzx2 Mar 25, 2026 +12
It's INSANE to think it takes longer to legally cut hair then it does to legally drive a big rig.
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askalotlol Mar 26, 2026 +2
It takes longer to get a cosmetologist liscense because you learn more than cutting hair. Hair - scissor cut, clipper cut, perms, relaxers, straigtening, color, highlighting, extensions, weaves, styling.. Skin - skincare, makeup, spa services, waxing, brow shaping.. Nails - nailcare, manicure, pedicure, acrylic and gel nails.. You learn a lot of different skills. You also spend a lot of time on safety due to the harsh chemicals used in the beauty industry. It's a lot more complicated than driving a rig, and honestly can be just as dangerous when you are putting chemicals directly on human skin. A relaxer done wrong can disfigure a person for life.
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CopainChevalier Mar 26, 2026
So can driving a semitruck into multiple vehicles
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zzyzx2 Mar 26, 2026 -5
You're missing the point here. Completely missing it.
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Thief_of_Sanity Mar 26, 2026
Sorry what's your point?
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Th1rte3n1334 Mar 25, 2026 +35
> Commissioners unanimously approved the change after hearing from a parade of speakers who largely asked them to do the opposite because of worries that it will hamper the state’s economy and burden immigrants trying to make an honest living. The speakers also argued the move will push people to work without a license, and erode state oversight of crucial industries. Lmfao, these people are so paranoid that they actually do the opposite of what they are suggested to do.
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Militantpoet Mar 25, 2026 +4
It hurt itself in confusion! Should be the tagline for MAGA.
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randynumbergenerator Mar 25, 2026
That's kind of beside the point. They're willing to make things worse for everyone in order to be cruel to "the wrong people."
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Militantpoet Mar 25, 2026 +4
Okay, I had to do a double-take because I thought they were using an internet acronym lol >TDLR has long been evaluating verification of license eligibility in line with federal law. With the transfer of the Texas L****** to TDLR ...
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Grand-Chemical1419 Mar 25, 2026 +15
This is just common sense
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ThatOldGuy7863 Mar 26, 2026 +5
Crazy this wasn't a thing already.
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SandhogDig Mar 26, 2026 +2
How about every politician needs to public disclose their assets including 5 years tax returns, sponsors & No criminal record in order to qualify to run for ANY office (State & Federal). Looking at you Ken Paxton.
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triggeredbynumbers Mar 26, 2026 +9
We weren’t already doing this? This seems like it should be a federal policy to help mitigate illegal immigration.
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Weak_Bowl_8129 Mar 26, 2026 +5
Because it would be unconstitutional, almost all licensing is state authority. They would have to do some gray area loopholes like blocking funding for something. The feds could mandate this for sectors with federal licensing, like nuclear or aviation though
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drinkduffdry Mar 25, 2026 +6
You already have to, at least the board I applied to.
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WristlockKing Mar 26, 2026 +1
Apprentice electrician about to become a high paying career.
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FOSSChemEPirate88 Mar 26, 2026 +1
Its not required most places already?
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freebirth Mar 27, 2026 +1
It is . This is a common tool of fascism . To pretend to solve a problem that doesn't exist by taking grandiose steps that amount to nothing.
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statslady23 Mar 25, 2026 +1
Didn't total e-verify pass federally in March of last year? ( Accountability Through Electronic Verification Act) Is this just a step toward compliance and implementation? I know some states, like Florida and Texas recently blocked total e-verify (maybe til it's mandatory) because businesses want their undocumented employees. 
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Ok_Situation6408 Mar 25, 2026 +10
The bill was merely introduced in the Senate. There has been no movement on it. I think you may be surprised at the various levels of compliance with E-Verify state to state. Some states flat out ban the use of it and have for many years - California and Illinois, for example. I'd encourage you to seek out that info, as I know I personally was shocked at the results when I looked it up. I had no idea so many states did not require it for all employees.
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Competitive_Touch_86 Mar 26, 2026 +2
It’s not even all that effective when utilized. If someone is going to present a stolen identity it’s only going to catch the most obvious of offenders. It’s also generally illegal (been a long while since I was told about this by our employment attorney so it might have been a state thing) to withhold an offer of employment prior to e-verify coming back clean. Your recourse was fire someone after they worked for you for a couple weeks, which at that point most employers just said why even bother since it’s all expense with zero benefit.
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Ok_Situation6408 Mar 26, 2026 +1
Definitely agree that it isn't perfect or even great. But it IS a tool that is already functional and totally free (at point of use, of course taxes paid for its creation years ago and pay for maintenance now) for states to use. The fact that two states not only do not take advantage of a free, easy to use service, but actively ban the use of it, honestly blows my mind. To your other point, yes, stolen and/or forged documents+identities are a big issue that I never really hear anyone talk about. So I'm glad to hear you bring that aspect up. It is basically a full-blown industry at this point (not just immigration related, either), and I don't know how that can even begin to be effectively combatted. Especially not when the law states that employers aren't allowed to question the validity of documentation as long as they appear to be "reasonably" legit. Pair that with a state who doesn't use E-Verify and there is virtually no way for an employer to know without breaking the law to find out. That is bonkers to me and, like I said, not what I was expecting to find when I first dug into this last year. Our immigration system (including the system for those who have already migrated here/are trying to live their daily lives) seems to truly be an absolute decades high mountain of kicked cans. I don't envy anyone involved in policy making or policy enforcing right now. Regardless of which style of each they subscribe to.
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serial_crusher Mar 25, 2026 +6
That applies to businesses that hire employees, right? If I hire a self-employed electrician I found on Craigslist, I’m going to check that he is in fact a licensed electrician, because I don’t want my house to burn down, but I’m not going to check his immigration status and neither is anybody else AFAIK.
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CutiePopIceberg Mar 26, 2026 +1
Uh. Ya. Like always. Geez.
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savvy-misanthrope Mar 26, 2026 +1
It's common sense; I'm surprised it wasn't done before. Can't work legally in the US without documented residency because taxes must be paid.
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Mataelio Mar 25, 2026 -22
How dare these illegals immigrants … try to be productive members of society?
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Th3FinalStarman Mar 26, 2026 -4
At least as far as PE Licensing in Texas goes there already exists a whole separate process for International Applicants. This is just Republican Racism. https://pels.texas.gov/international_applicants.htm
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freebirth Mar 27, 2026 +1
Yep. And the voters see through it
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Not_Selmi Mar 25, 2026 -10
Ah yes, the party of small government
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Carnivile Mar 25, 2026 -16
So they just gonna work without a license? Seems like this will make things worse in the long term.
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whiskeyandsunshine Mar 25, 2026 +5
Texas for a bit was trying to pass legislation that licensing wasn’t required for some of these positions
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Harknights Mar 25, 2026 -14
which means for the few that can't prove it, they will just not have a lic. Which isn't the solution you would want....but here we are.
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furrysalesman69 Mar 26, 2026 -5
Stick around and vote the Republican fuckwads out
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