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KaliguIah 5 days ago +25

international law is a set of suggestions

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-_GIZMO_ 6 days ago +246

Wholly boted thread batman! From russians to israelis everybodys here 😂

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InfiniteOrchardPath 6 days ago +30

..then who doubted this would bring us together.?

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DavidlikesPeace 6 days ago +40

Sadly, if there's one thing all the anti-liberal movements agree upon, it's contempt for liberalism and the rule of law.

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Additional-Name-3211 6 days ago +6

Well, if the Russians and the Iranians all hate liberalism and diplomacy and the rule of law so much I guess it’s because they must like having their soldiers blown up instead or something.

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grudgepacker 6 days ago +12

Considering we now know the IRGC/Basij run with the weapons-in-schools war crime playbook just like their Hamas/Hezbollah proxies, clearly they must like having their children blown up too.

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Bitter_Sense_5689 5 days ago +2

“What a swell party this is” - Director Krennic

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Khaganate23 6 days ago +103

Shout out to that one bot here aggressively trying to convince westerners that Iranians are happy with their foreign speaking government and that there are no foreign speaking militias killing Iranians right now. Oh, and pushing atrocity denial. These bots can't even be consistent with IRIB lol.

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PsychologicalSet8678 6 days ago +58

Foreign speaking government? What the f*** are you even saying?

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Khaganate23 6 days ago +38

No one in the government currently can speak farsi properly. Parliament speaker himself struggles every time. They changed languages to appease their r*** squads in Tehran and gave up on farsi yesterday.

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confused-snake 6 days ago +23

Never heard this before and I'd like to know more. Got any credible sources? Couldn't find anything on google.

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Khaganate23 6 days ago -8

Dadash, you can watch their speeches on propaganda channels like IRIB. It's not exactly hidden information for them.

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jurassicbond 6 days ago +43

Would that really be helpful to someone that doesn't know Farsi from Greek? How would I know if they are speaking it well or not?

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PsychologicalSet8678 6 days ago -9

He does not have a credible source, he's probably never been to Iran.

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Expert_Bag7416 6 days ago +102

IRGC is the cancer of the world trying to hold everyone hostage

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sayko666 6 days ago +51

True. But Trump and MAGA Cult is another type of cancer as well. Edit: Forgot to add Netanyahu and Hamas and Hizbullah and Putin.

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swizzcheez 5 days ago

The 'Yahu leading Israel and the 'Yahoo leading the US have got to (legally) go.

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Jeanfromthe54 6 days ago +15

Didn't the world hold Iran's economy hostage since 1979? Now that they are using their rights and are fighting back, you are crying?

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PorkJerky1 5 days ago +6

Yes. And US supported attacks on Iran during Iran’s war with Iraq. US supplied Iraq with the means to use chemical weapons. And Americans wonder why Iranians don’t like them 🤔

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iwasuncoolonce 5 days ago +2

No there are newer sanctions and it caused the protests United States sanctions against Iran - Wikipedia https://share.google/wwOGIxwIMeV63Dni5 They finally collapsed Iranian currency

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Jeanfromthe54 5 days ago +1

Good, now Iran is sanctionning the world under the US, I don't see the problem in that.

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iwasuncoolonce 5 days ago +1

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Jeanfromthe54 5 days ago -1

I don't believe CIA and Mossad nonsense, I am not stupid.

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gayphilantropist 6 days ago +8

This isn’t Iran defending itself. It’s the government that holds Persians hostage defending their tyrannical government via illegal closures of waters. What’s even more ironic is that the ones suffering aren’t the ones invading the regime. Do nations that suffer from irans proxy wars deserve to defend themselves using your logic?

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-The_Guy_ 5 days ago -4

Trump is also blockading the strait though…

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gayphilantropist 5 days ago +5

AFAIK he’s blocking ships for entering leaving irans ports. Not a blank catch all blockade.

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LucasSkywalker89 6 days ago -42

Well, it is in their right to defend their land and space against the aggressors. Trump was warned by multiple people that if he launches the attack, Iran will close the Strait of Hormuz, he thought this was was 2-3 days then he can go back to golf. Before this war started, Iran has basically surrendered to US, the attack still happened, who is the cancer in the world?

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Haluxe 6 days ago +58

IRGC is still the cancer. They’re still executing civilians. They executed thousands of protestors this year. They oppress women and pretty much anyone. I could go on

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ElTamaulipas 6 days ago +12

So when the UAE funds Sudanese death squads it is ok because they are part of the "Rules based international order?" Same for when the Saudis and the UAE caused an artificial famine in Yemen it is ok because they are part of the "Rules based international order?" So when Israel kills at least 65000 (likely more) in Palestine and bombs multiple countriess throughout the region it is fine because they are part of the "Rules based international order"? This is the hypocrisy people talking about when you all screech about "35000" protestors killed.

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Haluxe 6 days ago +5

Who said any of these are okay? We’re talking about the IRGC. They’re murderers and oppressors. Seems you’re a Islamic dictatorship sympathizer

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ElTamaulipas 6 days ago -13

Back at you since you seem to be ok with the actions of the Saudis and Emirates.

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Haluxe 6 days ago +17

I didn’t even mention them once. You’re defending the IRGC

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ranaadnanm 6 days ago

No one is defending the IRGC, people are simply pointing out the hypocrisy of people pointing their fingers solely at Iran. And don't forget the seeds of the Islamic revolution were also sown by the Western powers. It's like intentionally breaking stuff, and then pretending to fix it. The U.S. is completely out of it's depth.

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grudgepacker 6 days ago +2

> No one is defending the IRGC Nah clearly you are with all your specious "whatabousim?" straw man arguments - you just hate the West more than anything so therefore you root for terrorists lmao > The U.S. is completely out of it's depth. Sure and meanwhile now the Euros are finally turning on Iran too while rumors are going around that Israel wants to "finish the job" with or without the US -- so much cope from you lmao

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belortik 6 days ago +3

The Iranians are the source of the instability in Yemen by financing and training the Houthis.

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Harrycover 6 days ago +23

I dont understand what this has to do with anything. USA did not enter war in Iran to stop irgc from hurting Iranians, just like they did not bombed Iraq because they had wmd. But they succeeded in changing Iranian government in 1970 when they removed Mossadegh and put their guy instead. USA does not go to war with other countries to save the world, only for their own interest, therefore, always mentioning how irgc is doing this or that is irrelevant.

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schueaj 5 days ago +3

1953 not 1970

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Harrycover 5 days ago +1

Indeed

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Haluxe 6 days ago -7

Won’t argue with you there about USA going to war for their own interest. However if a by product of this war is the removal of the IRGC then it’s something. Iraq war was disastrous to the Iraqis. However a different story, my Kurdish friends said him and his family were saved from persecution in the early 2000s and was alive because of the US taking out saddam. IRGC need to be removed from the planet. How it’s happening is…not great

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Harrycover 6 days ago +14

But when a byproduct is the bombing of innocent civilians, is it still worth it? I’m very happy for your Kurdish friends,‘very happy that they are not part of the 200000 civilians that were killed during the Iraqi war.

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chekitch 6 days ago +1

Removal? This war is like godsend to them. They were on the verge of falling, but now, not only they have a martyr, a new leader, more money , but they will also have "won the war"..

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Potential_Archer2427 6 days ago -2

They are losing a lot of money from the blockade

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LucasSkywalker89 6 days ago +2

They will emerge as a regional superpower. The amount of money they will make with the toll system is crazy even if they reduce the amount they charge.

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chekitch 6 days ago +1

Now yes, but even without the toll, with the higher oil price and their oil being not banned, it will be a gain all summed up.

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FarSolar 6 days ago +2

With the way things are going, I'm not sure I see their oil refineries making it out of this. Trump is back to threatening to blow up all their power plants again and I don't see either side agreeing to a peace deal. After the power plants, it'll be the refineries and other economic infrastructure.

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Mixander 6 days ago +2

can you guarantee that nothing worse than IRGC will emerge from their ashes? what do we learn from the forceful external regime change so far? it tends to produce instability, conflict, and uncertain long-term outcomes rather than consistent success.

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dcondor07uk 6 days ago +1

I hate their regime, however, the reason for bombing shouldn’t have been something that we never had any proof of, rather their oppression towards their own people and humans rights abuses, and other atrocities. Otherwise US will get what they want and you will keep justifying their intervention they will pull back and a worse destiny will meet those people.

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iwasuncoolonce 5 days ago +1

The Iranian Regime’s Decades of Terrorism Against American Citizens - U.S. Embassy & Consulates in China https://share.google/FqAlo6mXQdOkpaabg

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Harrycover 5 days ago +1

Look a what the USA did in Iran in 1953 now.

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iwasuncoolonce 5 days ago +1

We have been at war with Iran since 1979

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Knowledge_Moist 6 days ago

glupglupglupglup The IRGC isn't a cancer. Like North Korea isn't a cancer. Cancer grows, spreads and kills everything around them. At worst, the IRGC is a benign tumor. For 47 years, the world was moving along just fine with them around. You know what's actually a cancer? The United States which goes out of its ways to invade and strike countries all around the world. They have *by far* the largest expeditionary force in the world which they use to have a presence in **all continents**. If you do not submit, they embargo/blockade, bomb you, invade you or overthrow you. How do they not fit "cancer" 1000% more than Iran?? The whole world is starting to realize this now. We know Trump is a symptom, not a cause. The US is a cancer, and the world is doing chemotherapy by reducing their ties with them, both economically and militarily. [https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/carney-says-canadas-us-ties-have-become-weakness-2026-04-19/](https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/carney-says-canadas-us-ties-have-become-weakness-2026-04-19/)

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LucasSkywalker89 6 days ago -4

The way this war has been so far with so many narratives thrown left and right, i am starting to doubt the 30.000-50.000 civilians killed. Trump bragged that he armed the population to overthrow the Government and then he was pissed that many then stopped. No Muslim burns down Mosque, Hospitals, kills first responders and civilians, that is what these insurgents did, they were acting like they weren't ... Muslims. A lot of red flags with that narrative. Scott Bessent bragged that he took down the Iranian currency in December to stir uprising in Iran. IRGC is a symptom from a far worse illness that has plagued the region for many, many decades. The coup in 1953 in Iran was orchestrated by CIA and MI6 and they installed a puppet in the name of Shah, that dictator became a brutal reality of how he leeched off people's back so that he can feel like an "Emperor" and the revolution, this time a real one not an orchestrated one, took him down and voila, you get IRGC, thank you USA and UK for that!

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Settra_Rulez 6 days ago +5

Trumps comments about arming Iranians was in regards to the Kurds, not protesters in Tehran. The majority of Iran is actually secular, with only 40% Muslim according to some polls. The 30-40,000 dead protesters comes from numerous human rights groups. It doesn’t originate from Trump.

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zbb93 6 days ago +2

>Trumps comments about arming Iranians was in regards to the Kurds, not protesters in Tehran. Trump said they gave weapons to the kurds to smuggle to the protesters, but the kurds kept the weapons. Iran has been saying from the get go that the protesters were armed by foreign governments. I think it's likely either the kurds didn't keep all the weapons, or the Israelis had better luck smuggling weapons a different way. >The 30-40,000 dead protesters comes from numerous human rights groups. It doesn’t originate from Trump. Iran international is the only group I've seen claim 30k+, are there others?

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LaconicLacedaemonian 6 days ago +15

United States two protestors were killed and the outrage was high. In Iran 30,000 were killed for protesting. These are not the same by a wide margin, stop with the false equivalency and condemn evil wherever you see it.

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kamran1380 6 days ago +13

Its neither their land nor their space. Its iranian peoples land and space that is ALSO taken hostage by the irgc.

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HotTubMike 6 days ago

Its not their right to close international water ways. It’s a violation of international law whether they were attacked by a foreign country or not.

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Infinite-Fig-194 6 days ago +2

And invading foreign country isn't a violation of international law? Is international law viable or what?

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HotTubMike 6 days ago +3

One violation of international law doesn’t justify another.

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backFromTheBed 6 days ago +6

Statements like these are meaningless posturing. One side faces no consequences for its actions, there are no calls for boycotts, no sanctions, no punishment. Instead, first-world countries were debating whether to join them or not. And it is this same side that has a long history of meddling in other countries' political systems: aiding civil wars, supporting coups and assassinations, and worse, hindering nations from achieving independent standing by any means possible. Why, then, should any other country be condemned for actions it was forced to take after being attacked, when the so-called rule-following nations have done nothing to stop the US and Israel?

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Infinite-Fig-194 6 days ago +8

If law applies to only on one side it no longer works as a law.

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PhD91 6 days ago -1

Yet, by blockading the strait, Iran economically strangles countries that have absolutely nothing to do with the war; thus, there is no reciprocity regarding that action whatsoever – it's pure terrorism.

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WorldArcher1245 6 days ago +2

That's the point though, those countries are the only ones that can pressure the US to end their illegal war. It's a domino effect. You can't blame one of the dominos for making everything fall over and not the first domino to fall first.

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WorldArcher1245 6 days ago

That don't matter anymore. If anything, it's understandable for Iran to do what they did as a consequence.

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HotTubMike 6 days ago

Then it was justified for the United States to attack Iran after it slaughtered thousands of its own citizens in violation of international law.

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LucasSkywalker89 6 days ago +6

What Iran did was because of the unilateral action of USA and Israel. Before the war, the Strait of Hormuz was open, your logic is flawed.

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WorldArcher1245 6 days ago +2

I'm pretty sure that what Iran does internally has nothing to do with "international law". Otherwise, everything that every country that does to itself like that is grounds for immediate international condemnation and attack. And nobody attacked China after 1989. You need to revise your understanding of "International law"

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HotTubMike 6 days ago +2

You can be pretty sure but you are also completely wrong.

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WorldArcher1245 6 days ago

I'm being humble. Of course international law has no correlation to a country's INTERNAL policies. What the hell are ya'll even talking about? If the logic applied, then there should've been major condemnation and attack on China after 1989. There should've been a full-blown attack on Assad's government and blockade after those chemical attacks. Maduro's government should've been long since overthrown for what they did. The War in Iraq should've been started to overthrow the Saddam government for their human rights abuses instead of WMDS (Which would've been more credible ironically enough) You need to revise your understanding of "International law" pronto.

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Lanky_Youth_9367 6 days ago -27

I can’t believe I am with Trump on this one. EU is a paper tiger. They bring the torch of international law when they start to suffer.

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Suspicious_Place1270 6 days ago +19

because EU is built on rules, not thoughtless action

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PotatoTyranny 6 days ago +4

Other way around; the EU is able to use these rules with impunity because the US has always been the big brother looming behind their back making them largely untouchable except by the US. That's why there's so much hysteria about NATO falling apart or whatever; the postwar RBIO has been largely the American order, and for the most part Europe has been on the right side of that order. The fear is that they're going to be treated as the Global South has been by an increasingly erratic USA.

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Suspicious_Place1270 6 days ago -1

usa is shooting their kneecaps themselves by having bad relations with the EU, we're building as much as possible to get out of their grasp

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Ultra_Metal 6 days ago +2

If the rules protect tyrannical regimes, then the rules are wrong and should be broken or changed.

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Suspicious_Place1270 6 days ago +3

who are the rules protecting? what are you insinuating?

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Lanky_Youth_9367 6 days ago -1

The rules for thee but not for me?

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Suspicious_Place1270 6 days ago +6

how is the EU going against its own rules, please tell me?

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Qweedo420 6 days ago -2

The EU is a paper tiger *specifically* because of the US, they've spent the past 80 years trying to keep it weak and reliant on the US economy Other than that, the current situation with Iran is 100% Trump's and Netanyahu's fault, and I'm glad Europe didn't participate in this meaningless bloodbath

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Lanky_Youth_9367 6 days ago +3

I am glad too and I was quite positive on clear no to US request. But this selective preaching is so obvious and really transparent

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HotTubMike 6 days ago +11

Every US president since Eisenhower has called on Europe to do more in terms of defense. Such an obvious lie.

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sidonay 6 days ago +7

Yeah USA wants Europe to do more in defense, but only if it involves spending more on US equipment. The moment Europe wants to act independently, creates it's own structures, make it's own equipment, prioritize European purchases, the US goes like "not like that". 1998 when Europe was looking into creating it's own defense structures, US was against it. [https://1997-2001.state.gov/statements/1998/981208b.html](https://1997-2001.state.gov/statements/1998/981208b.html) >European defense initiative must avoid **Decoupling** (from NATO), **Duplication** (of NATO resources), and **Discrimination** (against non-EU members like the U.S.) When Europe wanted it's own satellites, US threatened to shoot them down. [https://www.smithsonianmag.com/air-space-magazine/the-galileo-project-4098287/](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/air-space-magazine/the-galileo-project-4098287/) >In December 2001, all 15 EU military ministries received a letter from Paul Wolfowitz, U.S. deputy secretary of defense, urging them to reconsider Galileo. The European network, he argued, could end up hogging spectrum that the U.S. military wanted for future GPS applications. That would “significantly complicate our ability to ensure availability of critical military GPS services in a time of crisis or conflict,” he wrote. When in 2019 EU creates PESCO & The European Defence Fund which priorizes European, US was fiercely against it. [https://www.americanprogress.org/article/case-eu-defense/#:\~:text=The%20once%20seemingly%20impossible%20task,unpacked%20and%20assessed](https://www.americanprogress.org/article/case-eu-defense/#:~:text=The%20once%20seemingly%20impossible%20task,unpacked%20and%20assessed).

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Qweedo420 6 days ago +7

All I can say is that you weren't paying attention during the Cold War and during the 2008 crisis And it doesn't matter what Eisenhower says, the US didn't want a new economic competitor in Europe, just like it didn't want one in Asia

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adamkex 6 days ago +2

To buy American weapons. Do you really think that America isn't benefitting from the status quo? They literally have major influence in one of the richest regions in the world.

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HotTubMike 6 days ago +1

Certainly the United States and its Presidents would prefer other countries buy American products. Just like the French government and President prefers other countries but French products. But no, it’s not exclusively that. The United States has called on European nations to develop their defense capabilities since Eisenhower so they could meaningfully contribute to countering global threats. The US would love it if other countries could do more in terms of international security.. thats.. why.. again.. every President since Eisenhower has called on Europe to do so..

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Jamuro 6 days ago +1

so this is magas excuse for throwing millions of us citizens off their healthcare?

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CuteLead9020 6 days ago -9

You spelled Trumpstein wrong

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PorkJerky1 5 days ago +1

Don’t forget to add Israel and the USA to your list

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xmuskorx 6 days ago +97

EU has failed to stop Urkianian war for 4+ years. Did not even stop buying Russian gas. The entire talk about "international law" is joke of EU does not have enough political will to enforce it even in their back yard.

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watch_out_4_snakes 6 days ago +45

Didn’t the Canadian Prime Minister already say that international law was a joke the whole time and the west went along because of the financial benefits?

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Fit-Magazine-6669 6 days ago +17

honestly everyone citing international law only when it fits them and then go back to breaking it the next day..

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Stoyfan 6 days ago +67

>Did not even stop buying Russian gas. Bad faith argument. The EU does not buy gas. Individual countries buy gas and most countries in the EU have weaned themselves off Russian gas except for a few who are ruled by pro-Russian governments. You are treating the EU like its one single country, it isn't. The EU and its countries isn't alone in this. They never wanted this bullshit to happen in the first place for obvious reasons and they have every right to demand it to stop.

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Chihuahua1 6 days ago +34

I assume referencing the green peace article that found shell was still illegal selling Russian oil despite sanctions in most of 2024, EU never punished them. Shell is a UK-Dutch business [https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2025/02/09/sanctioned-nuclear-icebreakers-help-export-gas-from-the-russian-arctic-bought-by-shell/](https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2025/02/09/sanctioned-nuclear-icebreakers-help-export-gas-from-the-russian-arctic-bought-by-shell/) [https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/europes-russian-lng-ban-has-a-shipping-loophole](https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/europes-russian-lng-ban-has-a-shipping-loophole)

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Stoyfan 6 days ago +7

There is always going to be instances of EU countries recieving shipments of gas originally sourced from Russia but bought from 3rd parties, but most EU countries have stopped recieving gas from Russian pipelines which has significantly impacted Russia's income since it is mostly a petrostate. And even in cases where Russian hydrocarbons were bought via 3rd parties (i.e through India), the Russian oil companies recieve much less than they would have if they sold through pipelines. No matter how you look at it, these sanctions are working and as a result the Russian government is facing budget shortfalls. People who just try to paint the sanctions as pointless because some country recieved gas from India are just ignoring the bigger picture.

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xmuskorx 6 days ago -9

Ahh right. So all the individual counties failed to stop Russia aggression and kept buying Russian gas. that's soooooo much better. Bruh

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Sjoerdiestriker 6 days ago +8

>Ahh right. So all the individual counties failed to stop Russia aggression and kept buying Russian gas. Right, the nations such as Hungary and Slovakia that decided to continue importing large amounts of Russian energy deserve (and do get) quite a lot of criticism for doing so. These are incidentally not the european nations that talk about international law the most. Neither the european union nor its diplomats are responsible for decisions its sovereign members take with regards to energy imports.

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xmuskorx 6 days ago +4

France was number one buyer of Russian LNG gas.. It's not just Hungary and Slovakia... And that's just energy. Why not FULL embargo? Why no secondary sanctions? It's been 4 years. It's a sick joke at this point.

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Jamuro 6 days ago

25th of april is when the ban for lng goes into effect. maybe google before being all outraged?

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xmuskorx 6 days ago +1

That ban is full of exceptions for many more years. And energy is just a begining. What is need is full embargo and secondary sanctions. This remains a sick joke.

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Stoyfan 6 days ago -4

what do you demand european countries to do, to "stop Russian aggression"?

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xmuskorx 6 days ago +5

Can they AT LEAST STOP BUYING RUSSIAN GAS? Let's start there. Then I would say: full embargo of Russia. Then secondary sanctions. If they can't even do these basics - what moral ground do they have to stand on?

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Stoyfan 6 days ago +1

>Can they AT LEAST STOP BUYING RUSSIAN GAS? Let's start there. Good, you have no f****** idea. All talk but no thought behind what you say. Not much point in discussing this further.

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xmuskorx 6 days ago +7

Lol No come back for my points. Bye

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Sjoerdiestriker 6 days ago +2

>Lmao you mean Europe not be a bunch of hypocrites that pretend they're beyond reproach because they pretend they're reformed and would never be the ruthless and reckless imperialists they were a hundred years ago? In the last 80 or so years of history since world war two, essentially no European nation (except the Soviet union/Russia themselves) has engaged in imperialism, so I don't see how there is any evidence that it's hypocritical for them to claim no longer to engage in imperialism. >Theyre just shouting about Russia and sanctions and illegal acts and the US and Israel Yeah, exactly, they are criticising nations for breaking international law. >pretending to be the paragon of virtue and international law You just gave an example of them calling to uphold international law, and then you claim that they are just "pretending". These two statements are contradictory. >You can't expect them to take any actual personal responsibility and stop buying fuel from the country threatening them Quite a few European nations have either reduced their fuel imports from Russia, or stopped them altogeher. A few have not (Hungary, Slovakia etc), and these nations might deserve criticism for this. Europe consists of a lot of nations. It'd be like saying "North-American nations imprison people without trial", just because El-Salvador does. >The EU, is a joke. The EU does not import fuel. Its member states do.

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ErikT738 6 days ago +20

EU didn't have to enforce anything in Iran until Trump and Bibi started making a mess.

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xmuskorx 6 days ago -3

Ahh right. Except for them building nukes sponsoring terrorists Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and doing terror all over the world. Classic ostrich approach...

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Jamuro 6 days ago +10

so you are saying trump was an idiot for ending the nuclear deal that allowed for at least some oversight?

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xmuskorx 6 days ago +2

That deal would allow Iran to keep all nuclear material, to keep enrichment going, and to use the freed up money to finance Hezbollah, Hamas and Houthis. Just because trump is a moron who shit the bed, does not mean that "deal" was not a nightmare.

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TalkersCZ 6 days ago +15

Maga moron or russian bot? Repeating these things? Trump failed to stop it as well. Actually he decided to lick a-s to Putin and when it stopped working, he walked away. How should have EU stop war against country with nukes. OK. How? Can you give us some great insight here? [https://www.spglobal.com/energy/en/news-research/blog/natural-gas/022624-russia-ukraine-war-europe-russian-gas-lng](https://www.spglobal.com/energy/en/news-research/blog/natural-gas/022624-russia-ukraine-war-europe-russian-gas-lng) We dropped massive amount of russian gas. Do some countries still import gas from Russia? Yes. Hungary and Slovakia and thats basically it. Basically friends of both Putin and Trump. But some MAGA troll will keep repeating these things.

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xmuskorx 6 days ago -6

, STOP BUYING RUSSIAN GAS. Is Russia threatening nukes if Europe stops buying gas or something? It's not just Hungary and Slovakia. France was number 1 Russian LNG buyer in 2025... All of the eu is rotten on this point Why not full embargo of Russia? Why no secondary sanctions? No answer other than EU being weak and incapable of enforcing international law they spout about.

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DavidlikesPeace 6 days ago

Hungary, your biggest conservative regime in the EU, was half the problem. The only answer is by voting out the trash.

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xmuskorx 6 days ago +1

Did Hungary force France to buy the most LNG from Russia in 2025? Why does Germany have full embargo of Russia. Why does not France? Why does NO ONE?

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xmuskorx 6 days ago +11

France was the largest buyer of LNG from Russian In 2025 It's all of them.

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whachamacallme 6 days ago -16

This right here. From world conquerors to irrelevance in less than a hundred years.

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Ultra_Metal 6 days ago -7

And not because they don't have the ability. Europe could be strong if its leaders chose that path. Europe is acting weak because its leaders are weak and stupid.

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adamkex 6 days ago +1

Europe is acting weak because it's not a unified country. Europeans prefer to be divided because of outdated nationalist ideals. It's also not in the United States interest for Europe to be powerful.

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Ultra_Metal 6 days ago +4

Europe was far more divided 100 years ago and it was the strongest continent in the world. Your argument makes no sense.

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adamkex 6 days ago +1

Because they were significantly technologically ahead and managed to colonise and extract resources from poorer parts of the world. The gap is smaller now. Colonisation is not popular in democratic countries which is how almost all European governments operate. Europe also destroyed itself twice in the past 120 years and one half was colonised by Russians. The other half was rebuilt but remained small and divided. Reconstructed in a way that it's reliant on the US. The US has a large population, vast natural resources and is protected by two large oceans and it was never destroyed.

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Ultra_Metal 6 days ago +1

Europe is still far ahead technologically than most of the world except the US. Europe is wealthier than it has ever been. Europe chooses not to invest in its own armed forces. They are weak by choice. Again, your argument makes no sense.

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Botorfobor 6 days ago -5

Yet they are the strongest and brightest compared to the orange clown

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whachamacallme 6 days ago -3

“Strongest and brightest” buying record amounts of Russian energy: https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/spain-imports-record-amount-of-russian-gas-1776346138.html Literally buying the hammers to hit on their own toes.

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Singer-Informal 6 days ago +4

Well we are still a financial giant without real teeth. So that has been our fault. At least we have the money and the industry to catch-up. But for now, yeah, we kinda have to accept that one

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SunkenDonuts001 6 days ago +13

international law? lets solve the rafah and cuba situation first then

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vanceraa 6 days ago +19

Half of the mossad are in here holy

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teh_herper 6 days ago +4

Dang surprising they actually put out a statement on the weekends lol thought they'd wait until Monday office hours

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bigjimbay 6 days ago +4

Lol yes stop this illegal closure brought on by illegal military action What a f****** joke, this is all so stupid.

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Filias9 6 days ago -3

EU should wake up to actual reality. Might make you right. US was one that makes international law enforceable. They stopped. No police, no law.

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No_Application_1556 6 days ago +70

F*** off, the United States is going around breaking these laws causing half of the problems we’re in. The world no longer respects the us for anything anymore.

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RootinTootinHootin 6 days ago

What does respect mean in this context? The US and China are still the only countries that are able to influence global politics in a meaningful way. You can’t really say the rest of the world “respects” Europe when they don’t listen or care what they have to say.

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zdufs 6 days ago +9

Hahahahaha bro USA is the biggest war crime country in the past 70 years

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nsfwuseraccnt 6 days ago +12

And what is anyone going to do about it? That's right, nothing. The reality is that the only crime in war is losing, everything else is permitted.

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zdufs 6 days ago +8

Facts, I just hate the two-faced rhetoric we are good others are evil.

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xmuskorx 6 days ago +12

If EU did not wake up after 4+ years of a Russian invasion in their own backyard, will they ever?

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-Radiation 6 days ago -1

EU is enough to make Russia look like a joke even with minimal support in ukraine

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xmuskorx 6 days ago +4

Then why is war not over? Why is Russia still advancing (not much due to brave Ukraine) but still advancing?

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Ultra_Metal 6 days ago -3

They might wake up when it's too late.

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ryo3000 6 days ago +5

I mean... Not hard to ridicule Regardless of how you feel about Iran you can't exactly call for Iran to "do the right thing" if you're not willing to call out US and Israel for starting the war to begin with The war isn't to open the strait, the f****** thing was open

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ryo3000 6 days ago +10

US intelligence said Iran wasn't even involved in those attacks Plus if the war started on Oct 7th why was Iran openly negotiating a Nuclear Peace deal with the US when the bombs were dropped? Like Iran at least was not "at war'

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dontknow_anything 6 days ago +3

Israel has been assassinating Iran's scientist since 2007, then can we say the war started in 2007 by Israel. This war started on 28 Feb 2026, when US and Israel attacked Iran unprovoked.

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Playful_Wrangler7836 6 days ago +1

Sorry, they don't, get to play that card anymore. Isreal started this in 1967 and have continued to this day. Continued interference by the West has led to this.

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Intrepid-Ad2873 6 days ago +3

Ofc, the US is disrespecting international law rn

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kaizenX11 6 days ago +1

Kaja kallas is nothing more than a joker who keeps making nonsense statements to stay on limelight.

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DiscipleOfYeshua 6 days ago +1

Is any adult left in our world’s top leadership of nations with nuclear weapons?

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Shirolicious 6 days ago +1

I hate to admit that Iran makes a valid point during wartime with regards to the strait. However only during wartime.

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PotatoTyranny 6 days ago -5

Kaja Kallas, in fairness, is the same woman who went on record saying that China and Russia were not fighting against Fascism in WW2 and accused them of rewriting history. I also wouldn't respect anything she says.

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Jeanfromthe54 6 days ago +11

I still can't understand how unqualified dumb and ignorant people like her are heading the EU, we are never going to make it.

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teo_vas 6 days ago +3

in all fairness it was Russia that made the statement that China and Russia beat fascism excluding anyone else.

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LucasSkywalker89 6 days ago -1

Kaja Kallas is one of the worst foreign affairs EU has ever had in it's history. Von der Leyen is close to it.

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QFGTrialByFire 6 days ago -13

“Oh, that ‘international law’?! The one that the EU dusts off to lecture others while quietly green-lighting a U.S.-Israeli war of aggression — and looking the other way on atrocities against Iranians?!” I mean they aren't wrong if you're going to stick to some kind of moral high ground of international law you cant ignore other parts of it. Edit: Not sure what happened to the commenter below, they deleted their comment but i thought i'd respond here as i think its important to call out double standards: The quote isn't mine its the Iranian saying that. But its accurate, If you are going to condemn Iran for breaching international law. You can't not condemn the US for breaching international law. Have the EU said what the US are doing is a breach of international law? Do you have a quote for that because I believe they haven't. They say language like 'concerned', 'dangerous escalation', 'difficult to justify'. But never directly that they are in breach of international law. Hence the double standard. I noticed our Australian gov is the same .. they never say outright that what the US and Israel are doing is illegal under international law which it is. They only say words like 'concerned'. Edit2: I see a lot of down votes but no forthcoming quotes showing the EU condemned the US in its breach of international law.. because they haven't.

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LucasSkywalker89 6 days ago +8

I will give you an example of these "sanctions": Ramstein base is daily in and out being used by the Americans to go and attack Iran, either with fuel tankers or with weapons that are then used to attack Iran. UK bases the same. Italy also had their bases used in the same fashion, Cyprus, Romania is now also supporting US Tankers to refuel and then attack or support the attacking of Iran. We play double standards, on one side, we say we do not support, on the other side, it is a blatantly a lie, sure, we don't use our fighters or bombers or missiles to attack it ourselves but we sure do support the attacks with logistic, radar, military tech we give to USA and Israel to attack Iran.

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PotatoTyranny 6 days ago +2

Nah, when the attacks went off basically only Spain went on record condemning the surprise attacks that happened during live negotiations, everyone else condemned only Iran's retaliation which made it seem like Iran had simply lost their minds and started bombing things for shits and giggles. The rest of Europe decided toeing the American/Israeli line was more important than actually condemning what is as clean and shut a case of aggression as we've gotten since Ukraine, at least until it became clear the US was not actually winning the war.

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fufa_fafu 6 days ago +3

Then stop bitching about this shit and tell Trump to knock it off. Iran has the right to defend itself.

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BartD_ 6 days ago +3

In the very first week the EU has even applauded the US/Israeli effort to try and take over Iran.

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fufa_fafu 6 days ago -18

Kaja Kallas is a certified moron. Trump started this, Trump f****** blockaded the strait after Iran finished their stint, Trump bombed schools and universities and **somehow this is Iran's fault???** How do Europeans enjoy them being represented by a proper idiot?

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Lefonn 6 days ago +2

now that i read all these comments bashing us, I hope Trump continues his glorious war against the international terrorist state know as Iran

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BartD_ 6 days ago +4

Some are embarrassed to have a crew like that running the EU circus.

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Coffee_Infusion 6 days ago +1

What do you want them to do ? Go after the US ? Very few countries have the balls to do that. Not even China dares. Spain did but its more the exception. US is still the strongest army, and right now its lead by the most vengeful and petty president ever. Its completely understandable that most countries don't want to tempt that. Italy only did too because he went too far and went after the pope. Vatican being Italy, she had no other choice than to sever ties.

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Lanky_Youth_9367 6 days ago -14

EU is self absorbed and selfish collective. I don’t think that colonial highhandedness has left their conscience. Their duplicity is quite visible

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Amonfire1776 6 days ago +1

This is how the US knows the EU doesn't have a real plan either...at least at this time

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motorambler 6 days ago -2

The same Kaja Kallas that said the Allies defeated the Russians in WW2.

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Zlimness 6 days ago -1

Firing on random civilian ships is not self-defence. Just because the US and Israel does whatever it wants, doesn't make Iran any less a terrorist state for attacking civilian targets around the Gulf. And while the rhetoric right now is "International law doesn't exist because nobody is enforcing it", it very much exists. Everything would look very different if everyone applied this logic.

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Lefonn 6 days ago -2

Maybe we should join the glorious, righteous war against these terrorists and bring peace and justice to the oppressed people of Persia.

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The Iranian government ridiculed EU top diplomat Kaja Kallas’ calls to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and respect international law

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