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THE MEMES ARE SAFE. REPEAT, THE MEMES ARE SAFE (for now)

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[THE MEMES ARE SAFE \(for now\)](https://preview.redd.it/poqp2c0w07811.jpg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77e4fb321aef9d4c0ba648b1e1b4c3bf13f2f7e4) We’re constantly in awe of what listnookors can accomplish when they join forces, from raising money [for children’s hospitals](https://listnookblog.com/2017/10/04/extra-life-kicks-off-november-4th/) to shutting down the “inevitable” SOPA/PIPA. Today, European listnookors, along with other concerned EU netizens, helped do the impossible once more. Thanks to the ruckus they raised with their Members of the European Parliament, [the flawed EU Copyright Directive has been sent back to the drawing board](https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/5/17535874/eu-copyright-law-article-11-13-rejected-first-vote), ending (for now) the threats to subject all user uploads to automated content filtering, and require licensing fees for all links. There is no mistake that it was people power that made this happen. Before the vote, MEP Catherine Stihler of Scotland [noted](http://www.businessinsider.com/eu-parliament-rejects-sweeping-internet-copyright-reforms-2018-7) that she had received a petition signed by a million people against the changes. Other MEPs noted the deluge of calls and letters that they had received leading up to the vote. This outpouring of activism about what most people would have considered a dull procedural vote would not have been possible without the awareness and urgency (and, yes, [super-dank memes](https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qvny8v/some-genius-memers-are-creatively-fighting-the-eus-possible-meme-ban)) that members of the Listnook community raised, and we’d like to particularly congratulate r/Europe for leading the way. They hosted informative AMAs with [MEP Julia Reda](https://www.listnook.com/r/europe/comments/8oywxz/i_am_mep_julia_reda_fighting_to_saveyourinternet/) and Europe’s leading [independent experts on copyright reform](https://www.listnook.com/r/europe/comments/8ugrow/eu_copyright_ama_we_are_professors_lionel_bently/), they kept everyone up to date on vote progress and outcomes (check out [their tally of the July 5th vote](https://www.listnook.com/r/europe/comments/8wblrj/mep_votes_on_the_eu_copyright_directive_by_name/) to see how your MEP voted), and they [used megathreads](https://www.listnook.com/r/europe/comments/8q1mfc/on_the_eu_copyright_reform/) to keep us all in the loop about what was happening and how to help. # What’s Next? This isn’t over yet. The really important thing about this vote is that it takes what would have been pushed through into law behind closed doors and opens it up to a more public debate process, where citizens have the ability to weigh in, share their views, and build a compromise that protects rightsholders without imperiling free expression. The next vote will likely be on 10 September, and the coming weeks are critical to ensuring that the MEPs charged with hammering out amendments and drafting that compromise hear from their constituents. To keep informed about the process and learn what you can personally do during this time, be sure to check out the [Save Your Internet Campaign](https://saveyourinternet.eu/).
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astafish Jul 5, 2018 +1370
Hey all, The [Legal Affairs (JURI) Committee proposal](http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2f%2fEP%2f%2fTEXT%2bREPORT%2bA8-2018-0245%2b0%2bDOC%2bXML%2bV0%2f%2fEN&language=EN) lead by Axel Voss, MEP, was rejected with 278 voted for the proposal and 318 voted against it. What does t his mean? This is not the end, this does not mean that the Copyright Directive is off the table. The vote today was not about deleting Art 11 and 13. It's about having a full plenary debate and allowing amendments to improve those articles. Now, the file will be debated in the Parliament and open for amendments. There are alternatives (written by EPP members) on the table that would still protect authors but without collateral damage to the open internet ([article 11](https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/reda-compromise-11.pdf), [article 13](https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/reda-compromise-13.pdf)). There is also room for improvement in many other articles that would benefit libraries, museum and schools. [Here is an overview by EBLIDA](http://www.eblida.org/News/2018/EBLIDA%20recap%20of%20JURI%20DSM%20vote%20of%2020%20june%202018_FINAL.pdf), *European Bureau of Library Information and Documentation Associations,* that might be useful for some to understand the scope of many of the amendments. What will happen next? Now, extreme lobbying will begin in the EP. What we need to be careful of is that some of the amendments of the JURI committee were actually quite good - when it comes to the public domain, preservation exception, educational exceptions, out of commerce work, etc. Getting those amendments into the state where we are now has been a lot of work and even though there is always room for improvement, then there is also room for good work to be undone. The focus needs to be on article 11 (the press publisher's right) and on article 13 (the 'filter') and also, in my opinion, on article 3 (text and data mining) and article 6 (Common provisions). This was merely one vote of many, the next vote will decide upon the Parliament's negotiating position in the Trilogues (between the Commission, the Council and the Parliament). When the trilogues are done, the decision is ratified by the Parliament and then within couple of years adopted into national law of your member states.
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spiritbx Jul 6, 2018 +26
> What does t his mean? That pretty much half the government doesn't understand WTF they are even doing and should be replaced ASAP?
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MikeyDx Jul 6, 2018 +7
Why did the 278 people vote *for* the changes?
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +20
Seems to be a lot of confusion on what has happened so I’ll try and explain. The copyright directive was proposed by the European Commission. The commission is the only EU institution that can initiate proposals for new law. The directive went to the Council of 28 Member States. This is where national governments are represented. So, 28 civil servants negotiated behind closed doors until they agreed on amendments to the proposal and it was approved by 28 ministers from national governments. It also went to the European Parliament at the same time as the Council. The European Parliament assigned it to the legal affairs committee where the meps debated and discussed it and voted on a final text that passed through committee. Crucially the legal affairs committee gave the European Parliaments negotiators the mandate to begin negotiations with the Council. Only the Council and Parliament can approve bills to become laws so they must negotiate with each other to get a joint text. At the start of the plenary session of the European Parliament (when the whole house sits together to debate) the intention to begin negotiations was announced (as is mandated in the European Parliament rules of procedure). At this time a number of MEPs requested a vote of the full house on whether negotiations with the Council could begin (this doesn’t always happen). That vote then took place and the majority ruled that negotiations could not begin again. So, now a minimum number (can’t remember how many) of MEPs can amend the Parliament text.
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HalfJaked Jul 5, 2018 +645
Not to be a party pooper but I’ve seen a lot of reference to memes and memes only through this escapade and in the eyes of any involved in passing this it might make our argument seem childish and immature when there’s so much more at stake. Listnook for example. I know the majority are being lighthearted, but I’ve seen a few people focused on “saving the memes and the memes only”
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[deleted] Jul 6, 2018 +48
The ironic part is memes never were at stake. It was made up to engage Listnookors. It was about bots posting summarized news articles in the comments so that nobody had to visit the website anymore. The few who still visit those websites all have adblockers anyways. Listnook is just good to get spread over social media more easily hoping that Facebook users who probably don't use adblockers and have 10 search bars in their browser will read it.
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PM_ME_YOUR__RAM Jul 6, 2018 +29
This. Even Axel Voss, the guy who came up with all of this, pointed out several times that memes won't be affected by this. Don't get me wrong, I'm against this new laws, but listnooks false propaganda is total bullshit. The new laws would hurt listnook a lot (like not being allowed to quote from a linked news article in the title), but memes are definitely not at stake here. Overall I'm really disappointed in the way listnook staff has been communicating in the past few months. This sub is almost only used for positive stuff, while anything slightly controversial (like native video apps) is getting announced on listnookblog.com where you can't comment or vote. Edit: This comment is several months old, but I still want to correct what I said: Voss has proven again and again that he has no idea what he's doing and memes are definitely at stake. Still dislike listnooks communication though.
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Jushak Jul 6, 2018 +10
They know exactly what strings to pull with the community. It's a business decision for them.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +39
Honestly though it's probably one of the best ways to get users actively involved. The threat of having something everyone on Listnook enjoys being taken away will inspire action. As long as people understand not to email politicians silly things about "saving the memes" and instead use a serious and formal tone it won't do much harm as there is a real justification for their opinion on the matter.
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bacon_cake Jul 6, 2018 +12
They can be weirdly powerful. Memes have convinced studios to make movies, memes convince people to invest in penny stocks, hell memes seem to have elected a president.
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[deleted] Jul 6, 2018 +18
It's the same concept as why the NRA is so strong. Say NO to gun control. Simple message, easy to latch onto, and clear. The worst thing you want is a spread, murky message. Even tho its overly simplistic, its still going to do exactly whats needed. Engage the masses.
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Pascalwb Jul 6, 2018 +10
Yea it's really childish to make memes the biggest issue. And it kind of degrades the whole issue.
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prince_of_gypsies Jul 6, 2018 +10
The memes represent the internet in its purest form. I don't really participate in meme-culture, but I recognize that is is truly an all inclusive art form of the post-post-*post*-modern age. I know this might sound cheesy or like I'm exaggerating, but memes are connecting people more than anything ever in the history of humanity. A global interconnected network of youth, talking about *everything* and nothing is sacred except for the fact that **nothing is sacred**. Memes reflect our current *humanity* in its purest form. Sure, some, perhaps even a lot may be tainted, but that's how people are, right? Without the bad stuff there's no good.
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oniony Jul 6, 2018 +3
I think the meme just highlights how complex copyright is and not at all the black-and-white affair they're making it out to be when they proposed this filtering. How can a filter possibly account for fair use, satirical use, &c. They won't, it's too hard and there's no incentive for the companies involved to build them clever, so they'll just blanket ban all content that could be a violation whether or not it actually is.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +2316
Might be a bit premature for celebration. Back to the drawing board, not permanently scrapped. They’ll keep trying, and we need to remain vigilant. Also, I legitimately thought this post was about banning half of r/thanosdidnothingwrong.
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Risley Jul 5, 2018 +63
The same thing happened with net neutrality in America. But with Congress bought and paid for, Ashit Pai sucking this administrations d***, and repeated attempts with new wording, it eventually got broken up. They counted on Americans behind lazy and forgetful and it worked.
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BurnieTheBrony Jul 5, 2018 +34
I mean how much can you do when you write in millions of complaints and the people in charge just go "well there are too many of those obviously they're fake." WHILE stealing people's identities to write *actual* fake correspondence in support of the bill. It was rigged. Like a lot of shit's been rigged lately.
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Domeil Jul 5, 2018 +125
> They counted on Americans behind lazy and forgetful and it worked. Except Americans weren't lazy or forgetful. The Republican FCC just plugged it's ears, cried 'fake news,' and acted in direct opposition to the stated will of over 90% of Americans.
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onewilybobkat Jul 5, 2018 +38
Most of us that were computer literate never forgot or got lazy. There's only so much you can do with a limited amount of resources. When most people are either unaware or computer illiterate, little shits like Pai with his face that's begging for a shovel can easily sweet talk his golfing buddies into doing things Verizon's way.
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[deleted] Jul 6, 2018 +7
"Bro... Your face is begging for a shovel right now." 👆 100% my new comment when my drunk ass friends start being annoying as f*** once they cross over the line from being buzzed to hammered.
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socsa Jul 5, 2018 +30
Well, also that the "banning memes" thing was really just a meme itself and was never a realistic implication of the proposed legislation.
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YRYGAV Jul 6, 2018 +7
Do you believe there is a copyright protection algorithm that can determine whether a usage of copyrighted material is fair use or not? And is sufficiently accurate enough a multi-million dollar corporation would accept the risk of using it, and then being sued for copyright infringement if it is incorrect? Because I don't think anything like that exists, which pretty much means that the mandatory filter any website uses will filter out any hint of copyrighted material. And best case scenario that means maybe you could phone up google/twitter/listnook and ask them to look at your meme and let it in. Which basically won't happen. Even in the best case scenario, memes would basically be dead. I don't even know how a free image upload site like imgur could possibly even exist in the EU with such a law. They are likely making barely any profit already, much less having to be burdened by developing some copyrighted fingerprint analysis tool. I expect the most likely result of the law is that smaller content hosting tools like imgur would simply block the EU entirely rather than deal with the pandora's box. You would basically be forced to use huge overzealous tools like contentID which are constantly abused.
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Nekoronomicon Jul 6, 2018 +8
Well it certainly wasn't the intent of the legislation, it was a warning about how it was just too broad.
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Zeroa2572 Jul 5, 2018 +152
I thought so too.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +66
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I_am_normal_I_swear Jul 5, 2018 +43
I thought your middle name was in?
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TalenPhillips Jul 5, 2018 +197
> We’re constantly in awe of what listnookors can accomplish when they join forces, from raising money for children’s hospitals to shutting down the “inevitable” SOPA/PIPA. Today, European listnookors, along with other concerned EU netizens, helped do the impossible once more. How far up your own ass do you have to be to think that this one website single-handedly accomplished these things?
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Thrillkilled Jul 5, 2018 +39
Holy shit, that's exactly what I was thinking.
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aYearOfPrompts Jul 5, 2018 +239
**Hey /u/arabscarab, when will the admins stop dodging the elephant in the room and give a legitimate answer to the question:** #Why shouldn't listnook have to share revenue with the content creators you sell advertisements against? You keep repeating this statement like it is a bad thing: >and require licensing fees for all links. Why is this bad? Why should listnook be able to host, via i.listnook, web comics and photographs of copyrighted content that doesn't belong to it, and only have to take it down *after* the copyright holder finds it and requests it? Why is "forgiveness" the only acceptable policy for you? Why does listnook not have a revenue sharing program like YouTube already in place, and why do you resist addressing repeated questions about it? This is poorly written legislation as it was designed, but it's not a poor concept. You host content from copyrighted content that isn;t yours. Not just links to articles, but sometimes whole articles ripped from the source and reposted here. Half of your major content is just mild tweakings of content copyrighted by others. Most of the gif subs are straight rips outs of videos owned by someone else who gets no compensation for entertaining listnookors, while you put advertisements against them. **Why should listnook continue be able having a free lunch and not give back to the content creators whose stuff you use without asking to make a profit?** You want us to defend you. I like listnook and want it to continue. So give us the sound reasoning who you shouldn't have to pay out, or have to restrict your site from making money off of content you're not authorized to host. We want to support you, but we can't win this fight without addressing this concern, and it is a valid concern. It's also the biggest hurdle you face, as even yo know with your "for now" in the headline that this discussion is not over. Help us help you, and answer the question you've been hiding from. I [tried asking you this last time you made an announcement post](https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/8qfw8l/protecting_the_free_and_open_internet_european/e0j0kf2/), it got a ton of support and was even gilded which made you guys a few bucks, and you suddenly went silent on the page. Why are you hiding, and what is the answer? It makes it very hard to support you when you won't address this question and arm us with the ability to defend you.
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[deleted] Jul 6, 2018 +36
* How would you prove you own the content? * How would you accept payment? * How would you deal with 3rd parties claiming ownership of content maliciously? * How would you like to deal with literally thousands of websites to claim your share of the revenue? The answer to these questions has already been resolved in the Music industry, where artists register with, and get screwed by, a central licensing body who handles content licensing for them and then they keep the majority of funds received as "Costs". The way I see it, the Free Publicity back to your website where you can make your money would be better than the cents-in-the-dollar you would make from paid links.
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yeovic Jul 5, 2018 +65
Because the "Free lunch" is actually creating these content creators. You wont have any original and new content creators if nobody is going to host you and share you. Instead you might have a lot of secluded boards, which means you are better of with the free marketing and sharing anyway. Furthermore, who gets to control all of this, and what RELIABLE automatic software will handle and control all of this? e.g. will a small mouse icon warrant everything has to be checked by Disney? This is so much only helping the big organisations cash out, as they already were established through the free marketing that have been given them, by now controlling the platforms and having tools which other startups and whatnot cannot control. Who else besides the big organisations can control this confirmation of data? Most important, changing the internet for the sake of changing it, is against the freedom that it contains. It is monetising some of the freedom people all over the world have. Ultimately once implemented, it wont likely go back, and might further distribute any "freedom" and "fun" to monetization. There is many other things why this is a shitshow. While your example is Youtube, then you might already see how Youtube controls what is hosted, how it is shared and how to distribute revenue. A lot of content creators were reduced in income & and flagging and people controlling copyrighted words etc. show some of this shitshow as it is. If people is against this, then stop browsing listnook. But it is still free marketing. This is like pirating all over again, but worse.
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onewilybobkat Jul 5, 2018 +48
I think it's utterly ridiculous he uses YouTube as an example. For years they have no money to creators, period. When they finally started to, it became more and more obvious, until we're at the point where we are today, that their automated system is deeply flawed and they don't have enough actual humans to fix the mistakes the automated system made. Now, YouTube's creators are stifled in their creativity in order to try to prevent being demonetized and even then they still get demonetized half the time for reasons unannounced. Don't even get me started on the tons of small creators who get ripped off and then if they decide to upload their own original creations, someone else can take THEIR MONEY from their work by filing false claims to content. I'm not saying Listnook is perfect by any means, but it sounds like he's got a giant bug up his butt for reasons I'm unsure of. Not like every time you see something interesting there's not usually a link given by somebody to the original work, or at the very least a name where the content can be found and credit/ad revenue contributed to the creator.
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geethekid Jul 6, 2018 +11
Isn’t Listnook dominated by users like Gallowboob posting other people’s work nearly 100% of the time without attribution? How do those content creators benefit?
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[deleted] Jul 6, 2018 +12
Gallowboob the c*** (he really doesnt like that word), gets compensation by marketing/shilling to Listnook from advertisers. Both on his main account and numerous other ones, Listnook doesnt care and directly encourages it due to the amount of money they get from it
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MNGrrl Jul 6, 2018 +8
> . You wont have any original and new content creators if nobody is going to host you and share you. Oh bull-f******-shit. The internet existed long before advertisements shitted the place up, and it'll keep right on existing if every marketing department falls over dead. It's just cables and boxes, miles and miles of it. You don't need anyone's blessing to publish -- that was the entire point! TCP/IP was created to treat all traffic equally. All are peers. There are no servers and clients. The network doesn't care what you are, it's just the messenger -- just a tool. The argument you're making would have us all under the boot of the same "benevolent" dictatorship that musicians and playwrights are under -- the MPAA and RIAA, who control the means of distribution and take the lion's share of anything an artist could make from their work. They get fat while the artists starve, and that's the model you're backing. And big f****** surprise -- YouTube is making a killing and yet out of how many tens of thousands of bloggers trying to make it on the platform... how many of them actually are? People spend hours and hours on that site, eating face after face full of advertising, and how much of that is making it to the people who make Youtube anything more than a digital graveyard? Almost nothing. Just like pre-internet media. Get a grip. Piracy isn't killing artists -- the people who control the means of distribution are. And for the record, art predates even the written word. There have always been artists -- and they don't do it for monetary gain, or to shit out advertisements. There's no "ENJOY COKE" next to the cave paintings of early humans. Art will happen because it's intrinsic to the human condition. And because it's so important to the preservation and advancement of our culture, and a part of who we are, we establish ways of giving them money to support those endeavors. But they're not motivated by money, and shame on you for thinking it can only spring from money. Look around at the art that money makes -- it's formulaic, boring, and contributes no lasting value to a culture. But the labors of love, the artists who bleed onto our books, our screens, our ears? They last. They don't seek riches or fame... they seek something else entirely, that I don't think you could ever understand.
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mcmcmc58 Jul 6, 2018 +7
You know what? I'm an artist and I want to eat. I'm not doing it for the money, but I NEED MONEY TO LIVE! Artists' painstaking endeavours should be compensated. Throughout the centuries artists have relied on patronage (or independent wealth but thats a whole other story) to survive. If you don't compensate artists, you reinforce a social hierarchy where only the richest and most privileged have the freedom to truly create great art. Creating great art takes time and often substantial resources, and if you're spending all your time hustling something else to stay afloat then you simply don't have the same time or energy to invest in art. That's a fact. Not to mention how much stress and anxiety come from worrying about money. Creativity requires a sense of playfulness and joy and money worries can eat you up. TL;DR money has a very real impact on creators' emotional and financial resources to create. (and, our creations HAVE VALUE!) ETA: wanted to emphasise that money matters but otherwise I completely agree with the above comment. Youtube is a f*****.
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[deleted] Jul 6, 2018 +5
Because Listnook is a company trying to make money. They’re using their groups of users that hold political views that align with their own and their business needs. No, they don’t have to respect freedom of speech because they are a private company. However, you shouldnt assume that they’re astroturfing the site every time one of these things comes up purely because they agree with your politics. Make no mistake, making the whole site look the same with the same formatting as a protest is not a purely political statement. Beyond that, examine new Listnook inserting ads to look like posts, and the Listnook app installing a news pipeline.
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RumLovingPirate Jul 6, 2018 +12
Because Listnook is like a privately owned park. Anybody can show up, setup tents, camp out, play on the playground, go for a swim, whatever. They make money by posting billboards all over the park where advertising is sold for money, and on concessions (Listnook gold). What you're affectively advocating is for Listnook to search every person who enters their park, determine if something is original or not, then devise a way to find the creator of that content, however obscure it is, and to pay a small portion of their revenue to that content creator. That's not ever going to work.
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Nicklovinn Jul 6, 2018 +4
Because just because you create content doesn't mean you are entitled to ALL of its proceeds there begins a point where what you have created belongs to everyone, just as you living amoung everyone was the inspiration for such content. There I said it.
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PM_ME_DEPRESSIONCURE Jul 5, 2018 +288
Can someone please ELI5 what the f*** they have to gain by banning memes? I understand it’s more complicated then that, it has to do with harsher copyright laws right? I totally understand that people with power will always try to f*** with the little guy and strip us of our freedoms.. but really why this? It makes no sense to me.
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Artydome Jul 5, 2018 +320
It is a more general copyright law, say you are [insert popular musician], make a song, and upload it to youtube. Now that has to go through an upload filter (that determines whether it is copyrighted or not), it is original work, so it isn't subjected to copyright (cause you made it, and you are [popular musician]) But now say you are some guy in a hut that makes "Is this an [object]" memes for a living, this copyright filter would detect that image as an image you don't own copyright for, so it doesn't let you upload it, along with everyone else who wants to make a similar meme
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casket_pimp Jul 5, 2018 +235
What? How the f*** is that infrastructure supposed to... exist? The money and man power to implement that type of filtering doesn't seem feasible.
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sloanj1400 Jul 5, 2018 +202
Exactly. Which was precisely the fear. It’s not feasible, and if bureaucrats simply demand it by making internet companies liable, social media will be forced to blanket censor all uploads containing pictures, videos, even text, until it gets manually “approved” for uploading. At least in Europe, that’s how the politicians decided to handle it.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +142
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mods_are_a_psyop Jul 5, 2018 +118
> Every country is a power hungry shit show It's the same money pushing these laws in multiple countries. Multinational corporations are a problem for everyone.
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Littlfires Jul 5, 2018 +14
It's not that big of a surprise. Power hungry shitshows have been going in for millennias. It's just that now that technology is expanded far more there's more "power" such as nuclear weapons or internet to go around and makes power greed more dangerous
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cloudrac3r Jul 5, 2018 +103
No, you're wrong. This is super simple to implement. YouTube already does this and has for some time, and that system is absolutely flawless. No videos are ever mistakenly removed, the concepts of fair use are taken into account, and of course there's no way to get around it or anything. Implementing such a filter on every single website on the internet will be no problem whatsoever for the website's owners. /s, obviously.
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dsifriend Jul 5, 2018 +21
Someone didn't get to the end of your comment 🤦🏻‍♂️
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Gigapuddn Jul 5, 2018 +23
I think the point of it is that it is impossible to police and moderate the entire internet. That being said, I believe their main goal is to implement grounds in which they can target specific groups (eg. political dissent). This is purely my own speculation.
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cbmuser Jul 6, 2018 +3
Youtube already scans uploads automatically for copyrighted content. That’s actually one of the arguments the supporters are bringing up. Also, according to the Wikipedia article, the upload filters from article 13 of the new copyright rules are explicitly exempt non-commercial use from the filtering.
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CosmicMemer Jul 5, 2018 +72
The "meme ban" is a gross oversimplification of an atrocious, out of touch copyright law. It's so much worse than banning memes. It would put a *tax* on site owners who let their users link to content they didn't make. Basically, it's not about the memes, it's a terribly overly heavy handed execution of copyright law that would make the *entirety* of Listnook and any similar site unable to function the same ever again.
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Derice Jul 5, 2018 +24
The reform tried to solve a very real issue: content creators often have their content stolen. This is a problem that needs to be solved, and that the politicians are trying is a good thing. But the proposal that was put forth this time struck far too wide, hurting some of the fundamental workings of the Internet as we know it. Trying to find a way to stop people from copyright infringement is a good thing, so it going back to the drawing board is also a good thing as it should mean that a future proposal takes heed to the received criticisms. Its not about people in power somehow trying to attack the little guy. Their job is literally to work *for* the little guy. After all, if they didn't we'd vote them out of power. It's just that this proposal was very vague, ignorant of how the Internet worked and its proposed solutions would cause too much collateral damage. The politicians who voted on it needed to see that most of the common people were against such wide strokes.
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PBlueKan Jul 6, 2018 +14
You are both extremely right, and horribly naive. > Its not about people in power somehow trying to attack the little guy. Their job is literally to work for the little guy. After all, if they didn't we'd vote them out of power. The current fuckup of a government in my own US of A is a prime example of a government working solely for the members *of that government.*. Just look at the reasons the EPA chief was forced to resign. The fact is, you are spot on with this: > this proposal was very vague, ignorant of how the Internet worked Politicians all over the world are horribly out of touch with what our world has developed into, and that’s the thing that needs to change.
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Derice Jul 6, 2018 +8
>The current fuckup of a government in my own US of A is a prime example of a government working solely for the members *of that government.*. Just look at the reasons the EPA chief was forced to resign. The EU is not the US. It does not have the same extreme corruption in the government. The way everything about this proposal has worked has been exactly as it is supposed to in a democracy. While the uproar from the public might have helped, the proposal was expected to fail without it. That is how laws are made in the EU. A committee is tasked to solve an issue and make a proposal. The other bodies then vote on whether that should be written into law. If it fails, the committee takes in the reasons for it failing and addresses them in a new proposal.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +8
Wasn't really banning memes, but the proposal would implement a auto-censor that would censor any copyrighted image (and a lot of memes are exactly that) Compare it with the youtube automated censor, which f****** sucks d***
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englishfury Jul 5, 2018 +7
The YouTube automated censor turned up to 11. It wouldn't have ended well
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tjen Jul 5, 2018 +23
No one was banning memes. The main aim of the legislation was to make sure content creators had improved rights over the content they create, when most of the copyright law is like 15 years old (so really it was designed like 20 years ago), so is really outdated with regard to today’s digital content market place and revenue models. The people with power in this market are the people sitting on the marketplace for content distribution, reaping a vast majority of the profits based on the content provided by creators. Massive global corporations making billions, with the little guy having very little recourse to his part of creating that. This legislation is an attempt at fixing this. Maybe it needs further review, maybe some parts were too vague, but it’s something that actually does need updated legislation.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +56
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NoRodent Jul 5, 2018 +9
The EU doesn't have a fair use law like the US. Current directive only states national laws can have exemptions from the copyright. The reality is in a lot of European countries, there's no exception for parody or similar so technically, the memes are already illegal. It's just not enforced and websites don't have to automatically scan all user uploaded content for copyright infringement.
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dukington Jul 5, 2018 +56
It's bullshit. It wasn't to "ban memes". This was to make YouTube responsible for paying dues on the huge amount of creator content they profit from. Youtube, Google and Facebook sank mad dollars into a campaign falsely suggesting it would stop memes, which would have had the same freedom as before.
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olivias_bulge Jul 5, 2018 +20
How will non google entities run an uploaded image against every copyright held on images? Must the government offer a database of some kind? Otherwise google will just monopolize the service.
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englishfury Jul 5, 2018 +5
The problem is it kills and competition to the big corporations and makes those big corporates re-evaluate whether they want to operate in the EU. Then there is the whole, how the f*** do you impliment it without it banning literally everything fair use.
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rrreeeeeeeeeeee Jul 5, 2018 +13
> This was to make YouTube responsible for paying dues on the huge amount of creator content they profit from. which is wrong since youtube isn't responsible for it.
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ShitInMyCunt-2dollar Jul 6, 2018 +42
You really think comments and posts on listnook made the difference? You've got to be f****** joking. And which fuckwits keep gilding people in this thread? Stop buying that shit, if you ever want to see the admins stop with the redesign and all the other shit they keep doing. Why the f*** would you give listnook money, when they continue down the path they are on?
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Rihsatra Jul 6, 2018 +5
I love these posts where they think the people here are making a difference in the world. All they're doing is trying to protect their revenue by getting the users to stop legislation that would hurt them.
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[deleted] Jul 6, 2018 +10
because the meeems xddd 👌👌👌 Listnook is f****** garbage but most passive users really don’t care. It’s just facebook for college kids
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veriix Jul 5, 2018 +870
Remember everyone, voting matters! ^^...unlike ^^your ^^opinions ^^of ^^the ^^redesign
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obsessedcrf Jul 5, 2018 +197
>...unlike your opinions of the redesign Do any serious Listnookors willingly use it? I still don't see any advantage of it and switch to old Listnook at any opportunity.
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workJunk Jul 5, 2018 +89
One thing I noticed is that using old listnook as a lurker(not signed into an account) is you now get a pop-up to create one every time you navigate to a different listnook page. It got pretty f****** annoying I finally had to make an account.
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obsessedcrf Jul 5, 2018 +136
That's facebook level bullshit
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tomi166 Jul 5, 2018 +33
Dont get why they would make the site similar to facebook,listnook surpassed Fb in time consumption not long ago(NA),why change something thats not broken
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obsessedcrf Jul 5, 2018 +22
Pressure from investors and/or advertisers?
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tomi166 Jul 5, 2018 +16
I mean based on what i just said what more can you ask for? I dont want my favorite site to turn into a trashcan Facebook knockoff
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Gestrid Jul 5, 2018 +10
> advertisers *taps forehead* But you can't see the ads if you're not logged in.
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ChemicalPound Jul 5, 2018 +8
Facebook makes money and listnook doesn't
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DiamondxCrafting Jul 5, 2018 +79
That's pinterest level bullshit
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[deleted] Jul 6, 2018 +18
That's Instagram level bullshit.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +60
Calling it now, the next post in this sub is going to be about the redesign, and it’ll be heavily downvoted.
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Dobypeti Jul 5, 2018 +28
But despite the downvotes they won't do anything just like in this case: https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/8sth30/extra_extra_were_launching_a_news_tab_as_a_beta/
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +28
Unless the post is "We're completely scrapping the redesign."
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +31
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blasto_blastocyst Jul 5, 2018 +13
"We've been inspired by Uber so now you can locate other listnookors on this handy map!"
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etherpromo Jul 5, 2018 +11
Sticking with the classic version; idk why they felt like they needed to myspacify this shit. Can't really browse the new version inconspicuously at work..
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bogdaniuz Jul 5, 2018 +36
I have a question however. Since you felt that these news were worthy of a separate post announcement, why we didn't (or maybe I'm blind and missed that, in which case I apologize) see any actions from the Listnook's side to promote the issue and make people aware of it (e.g. like Italian Wikipedia did by going blackout)?
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +88
it’s not even fully scrapped. it’ll probably come back again, shit like this just makes us forget about it because LE EBIL MEME BAN GONE GUIZE Why are you being disengenious and why won’t you fix your own site?
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TheGunSlanger Jul 6, 2018 +3
>it’s not even fully scrapped. it’ll probably come back again, shit like this just makes us forget about it because LE EBIL MEME BAN GONE GUIZE Did you even read the end of the announcement? > *This isn’t over yet. The really important thing about this vote is that it takes what would have been pushed through into law behind closed doors and opens it up to a more public debate process, where citizens have the ability to weigh in, share their views, and build a compromise that protects rightsholders without imperiling free expression.* > *The next vote will likely be on 10 September, and the coming weeks are critical to ensuring that the MEPs charged with hammering out amendments and drafting that compromise hear from their constituents.*
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CrypticC62 Jul 5, 2018 +53
Rememeber, rememeber, the 5th of Julemeber The copyright reform and plot I know of no p*** Involving copyright reform Yeah you like that you f****** retard?
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +38
ALL RISE FOR THE MEME DAY NATIONAL ANTHEM
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TheZymbol Jul 5, 2018 +44
WE'RE NO STRANGERS TO LOOOVE
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +27
OR IS THIS JUST FANTASY?
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TheZymbol Jul 5, 2018 +32
I BLESSED THE RAINS DOWN IN AAAAAAFRICAAAA
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +21
WE ARE NUMBER ONE
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The_reddit_buzzard Jul 5, 2018 +23
GOTTA GET DOWN ON FRIDAY
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +9
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LA LA LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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SoDakZak Jul 5, 2018 +10
MMMMM M’LADY MMMM-MMMM M’LADY YOURE MY BUTTERFLY, SUGAR, BABY
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hipratham Jul 5, 2018 +10
And....Mod save the Memes'...
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +432
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ck_9900 Jul 5, 2018 +24
RemindMe! June 5th, 2019 HAPPY MEME DAY!
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nlofe Jul 5, 2018 +8
Hope you know you're pranking your future self really hard because it's July 5th, my dude
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Imortal366 Jul 5, 2018 +197
Gilded after 4 minutes
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ShaneH7646 Jul 5, 2018 +56
[That's gold](https://vlipsy.com/vlip/qSKqczhG)
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +14
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i_am_a_bosom_guy Jul 6, 2018 +13
I wish you’d stop crediting sole listnookors for legislative achievements. I know it’s good for your inflated egos, but please.
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impy695 Jul 6, 2018 +7
This has always made me cringe. Theres a reason "we did it listnook!" Gets used ironically on this site. Seeing people actually use it unironically like this is both cringe, and unbelievable if they actually believe it.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +40
Listnook didn't accomplish this. Certainly not alone.
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JPLnZi Jul 5, 2018 +25
What's this gold thing everyone's getting for low effort comments?
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +12
that’s basically 90% of the default subs lmao
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olivias_bulge Jul 5, 2018 +18
Oof what a bad take on this whole thing. Serious fellowkids title there.
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karmaecrivain94 Jul 5, 2018 +19
**STOP MAKING THIS ABOUT MEMES FOR F***'S SAKE.** It's so much more important than memes, and you're sabotaging the campaign against this by making it look like the opposition is a bunch 12 year olds who don't want their memes banned. The vast majority of people over 30 don't give a single f*** about memes, and they are the ones voting for this. Not 20-something year old listnookors. So if you want to convince them, use arguments they will hear.
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-The_Blazer- Jul 5, 2018 +28
Great, now how about we make this about the actual issues it causes, such as freedom of critique and the functioning of Internet services, instead of "muh memes" which is also wrong because the regulation specifically excluded them?
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future-porkchop Jul 5, 2018 +13
Seriously, idiots who frame this as "hurr durr they want to ban maymays" are doing serious damage to the opposition's cause.
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lifelongfreshman Jul 6, 2018 +4
While this is a win, it's far, far from over. The way I see it, there are still three things we need to be aware of. ***** The first is the obvious, bills like this don't just roll over and die. They take on new form, as some moron with an agenda to push attempts to force the same shitty legislation through under a different name. The reason? There's a lot of money to be made by controlling the internet. Why? It's simple. The internet is pure, in most cases undiluted, information. The control of information is one of the most important things for anyone in power, and extreme power can be gained if someone were able to control a source of information as vast as the internet. Even partially, even temporarily. So attempts will continue to be made to control this medium until the world has moved beyond the ability for any single power to control it. We have to always be vigilant against those who would try to exert unfavorable control and support those who would try to protect the free exchange of information the internet represents. ***** The second one is less obvious. This is, what, the third or fourth time now an internet grassroots campaign has stopped a major legal attempt to control the internet like this? It's only a matter of time before people start acting on it, doing anything they can to disrupt these movements, or otherwise hijack them for their own cause. As I said above, there's simply too much money being lost to continue to support this bad legislation. There's too much at stake in allowing the internet to remain the mostly-free information exchange it has been. The people behind these laws won't take our disruption lying down forever, they will eventually move to act against us. I'd like to think it will always be comically inept, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be on the lookout for people trying to disrupt movements like the ones taken against this law, or SOPA/PIPA, or the other variants that keep rearing their ugly heads. ***** Third, and finally, we need to be cautious of the sources we trust to tell us to act. This ties in to my second point, that people will try to hijack these movements towards their own ends if at all possible. Remember, listnook itself was one of the sites we trusted to tell us this was bad, and it also stood to lose tremendously should the bill have passed. This time, and last time, and probably even the next few times - because make no mistake, there will be more attempts - listnook will continue to operate in good faith. But there could come a point where our sources tell us one thing but hide another. Perhaps a law is drafted that doesn't affect the way we interact with the site very much, but listnook still tries to tell us it's terrible. Perhaps it's Facebook, or Google, or somewhere else instead of listnook. Should we still support them in their efforts to block the law? As the saying goes, trust, but verify. It's fine to trust what we're told, but we should never, ever blindly follow it. We need to verify that what is being said matches what is going to happen. This is the first line of defense against ensuring our freedoms are protected.
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[deleted] Jul 6, 2018 +39
F*** off, it wasn't listnook at all. Americans have shit all say in the eu. It was the news, mozilla, Linux community, and so on. Listnook had virtually nothing to do with it you shallow self absorbed f***
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AlarmedMousse Jul 5, 2018 +76
Glad this was stopped (for now), but everyone needs to remain vigilant. The rich and powerful worldwide want to destroy the internet and we have to keep fighting them.
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PM_ME_CUTE_ANGELS Jul 5, 2018 +268
What kind of world do we live in where our memes arent even safe.
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Bandit5317 Jul 5, 2018 +37
It was never about the memes. Just another flawed effort to protect copyright. Article 13 being about banning memes has become a meme, though.
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WWWTENTACION Jul 5, 2018 +122
Can someone explain what's going on??
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +137
There was a bill that would have made anything uploaded to the internet subject to the strictest of copyright laws. Yes, memes would likely have essentially banned if the image was not owned by the meme creator.
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Swaggerpro Jul 5, 2018 +90
Being meme deprived is *my worst nightmare.*
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PainMatrix Jul 5, 2018 +43
Isn’t that an Anne Frank quote?
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pankakke_ Jul 5, 2018 +11
I’m fully prepared to be an underground meme trader.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +1059
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Solarbro Jul 5, 2018 +91
The last paragraph addresses what you said. Are you referring to the title? Or the whole post? The main point is it’s more open to public debate. From what I can tell. So that does seem to mean it is back to the drawing board. Since there will now be open debate and changes made to the document. Like... changing the plans on a drawing board. The post even mentions this isn’t over, and that’s of course true. Because this will never be over. Unless we lose.
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Denfi Jul 5, 2018 +298
WE DID IT LISTNOOK XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
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Authsauce Jul 5, 2018 +99
Edit: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!
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TheChance Jul 5, 2018 +6
Funny. That text was blue. I wonder where it went > EU sends controversial internet copyright reforms back to the drawing board Oh.
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voltism Jul 5, 2018 +47
Hopefully they don't do what lobbyists in america did and just keep trying over and over until they f*** everything up.
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god_im_bored Jul 5, 2018 +8
Worst option is if they decided that public outcry over an unfinished bill is stupid, so they need to debate it behind closed doors. Kind of like what was happening with SOPA.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +16
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Tornado9797 Jul 5, 2018 +33
Thank goodness! Now we wait a couple years for the next big thing to try and hinder the Internet. Will this cycle ever end?
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killerbluebirb Jul 5, 2018 +17
The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots! Seriously though, probably not unless somebody can get freedom of internet into their constitution.
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flangle1 Jul 5, 2018 +7
They try to turn everything into a cash trough for them to get their piggy little noses into. They will never stop trying to control the Internet. I can't wait for the next "Internet" to turn this one into a ghost town that only serves Amazon.
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Drand_Galax Jul 5, 2018 +5
But what about Wikipedia? They tried to destroy my spanish wikipedia, it's safe now!
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SoundOfTomorrow Jul 6, 2018 +16
Oh shut up listnook admins, you did absolute shit.
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RapeMeToo Jul 5, 2018 +9
Remember when Listnook broke it's own rules and spammed the f*** out of Net Neutrality bullshit? And it didn't work and then the internet died. I had to send this comment by mail
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CLint_FLicker Jul 5, 2018 +5
How come Paul McCartney and other musicians were in favour - what did they have to gain from this having passed?
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +62
r/fellowkids
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +13066
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XyloArch Jul 5, 2018 +267
Once upon a Thursday dreary, as my thumbs grew weak and weary Grinding many a quaint and curious level for a higher score While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly, there came a tapping As of Europe brashly rapping, rapping at my chamber door "Tis some bureaucrat" I muttered "Harder fights I've fought before" "Only this, and nothing more" -- Presently my soul grew able, I laid controller on the table "Sir" said I "or Madam, truly your attention I implore; It was for score that I was grinding, turning though I am now finding Copyright directive stifling, stifling due to drafting poor, you really must do better" - Open here I flung the door Europe there, and nothing more. -- This directive, never flitting, still is sitting, *still* is sitting Ready to be wielded badly, if it's danger we ignore The bureaucrats have all the seeming, of some morons who are dreaming Easy Euros quickly streaming, scraped from pockets of the poor We must crush this stupid nonsense, speaking up, not less, but more Only then can we high-score.
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sgtshenanigans Jul 5, 2018 +25
That first stanza is brilliant, love it!
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +75
> performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks Holy shit I want to know what games you're playing E: Damnit. These copypastas get me every time
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TripperBets Jul 5, 2018 +1739
Did you gild yourself? Either that or this has to be the fastest gild I've ever seen :'D
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FourthLife Jul 5, 2018 +746
I wonder how many people upvoted this without realizing it was an ironic reference
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spauldeagle Jul 5, 2018 +307
I legit thought it was serious, downvoted, and then went to my local GameStop to oppress the vile gamers to keep this non-gamer race pure. I then used their superior problem solving capabilities to control an enormous machine that simultaneously jacks off every non-gamer in the world. Then I orgasmed and looked through the comments to find this one, and was relieved to know that I had made a terrible mistake.
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blasto_blastocyst Jul 5, 2018 +49
I missed out on my jacking-off. I demand satisfaction.
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S0N_0F_K0RHAL Jul 5, 2018 +31
Me, for one. I didn't know if the European gaming community was somehow instrumental in this legislation, and this guy was bravehearting about it. Hell, if that was the case, this guy's victory lap would be entirely appropriate.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +102
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +94
This statement was brought to you by gang weed gamers against Christian dad's who are against gangweed
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iamboss335 Jul 5, 2018 +337
Dang you were gilded fast. I've never had gold :( Edit: At a loss for words. Thank you human.
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SoDakZak Jul 5, 2018 +30
There you go friend! Everyone deserves gold once in their life!
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JonerPwner Jul 5, 2018 +39
So this is how we receive things now? I’ve never had sex with a pornstar
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FarmTaco Jul 5, 2018 +38
Should have specified what gender, he'll be at your door shortly
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Aws0me_Sauce Jul 5, 2018 +8
Oo oo! I’ve never won the l******! /*looks all around, waiting for something to happen*
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Top_Bush Jul 5, 2018 +56
Wow, you too! Less than a minute!
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deu5ex Jul 5, 2018 +22
I have *no* idea of how people decide to guild random comments so fast sometimes. Impulse control through the shitter? Violent kindess that cannot be contained? It's a mystery.
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TheCastro Jul 5, 2018 +15
Random Listnook not does it. Costs them nothing but makes people think it's fun to toss money at anoffhand comment because "others" are doing it
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +30
There must be some sort of gold fairy in this thread.
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opticscythe Jul 5, 2018 +72
> sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. ...dont push it man...
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silkysmoothjay Jul 5, 2018 +916
I love this pasta so much.
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YeimzHetfield Jul 5, 2018 +874
The best thing is that the person who created it was actually being serious.
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twinsofliberty Jul 5, 2018 +276
Never seen this pasta before so after reading the first couple sentences I was like Jesus f****** Christ how did this get upvoted
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Liquid_Senjutsu Jul 5, 2018 +71
This is the most robust pasta after Navy Seal.
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-Anyar- Jul 6, 2018 +18
No way, I've never seen this before. But I have seen... *OwO*
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tinderspecific Jul 6, 2018 +22
I can guarantee you that neither did a lot of the people who upvoted it. Personally I think it’s too cringy to be upvoted even as pasta, but I’ll bet you that a significant number of people upvoted that unironically.
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Tantric989 Jul 5, 2018 +601
That's the best part about practically all pasta. Wild pasta is best pasta.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +266
Wild. Organic. Grass-fed. Cage-free. Non-GMO pasta.
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ZyxStx Jul 5, 2018 +71
With millions of cheese, MILLIONS!
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Tantric989 Jul 5, 2018 +15
That's a lot of cheese. About how much cheese is that, exactly?
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sixner Jul 5, 2018 +369
This is a copy pasta??? F****** a I thought it was just a hyped up European gamer.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +390
Listnook is cringey at times but some one seriously, unironically posting this would not be the top comment here. The day that happens I’m out.
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antiname Jul 5, 2018 +178
Except in the original post the guy was being serious.
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AndyFNG Jul 5, 2018 +28
Except he wasn't really, I refused to believe someone would write that and not just be a funny troll so I looked up the source and he was making fun of people in the same thread that took it too serious and fell for the bait. I can't believe people are cringing at this because I didn't know the reference and I was smiling throughout reading it for the obvious joke that it is.
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hexane360 Jul 5, 2018 +136
Yeah but he wasn't upvoted in /r/announcements
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DesHis Jul 5, 2018 +64
screw advise marvelous long telephone money modern merciful meeting ten *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev/home)*
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +21
I’m just saying no one’s really voting this up because they agree with it. With a few exceptions everyone commenting is either falling for the pasta and saying how cringe it is, or continuing the memeing.
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +129
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HermesTGS Jul 5, 2018 +373
~~Black people~~ ~~Feminists~~ ~~SJWs~~ Ethics in video game journalism
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Djupet Jul 6, 2018 +81
Um, did you just target gamers? Hold on I've got a speech prepared for this somewhere.
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Tensuke Jul 5, 2018 +67
Wow, are you calling gamers racist, misogynistic, r*** apologists? Frist of all how **dare you**
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Nixon4Prez Jul 5, 2018 +228
Gamergate.
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JediwilliW Jul 5, 2018 +590
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY
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silkysmoothjay Jul 5, 2018 +281
B O T T O M T E X T
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DivineAlmond Jul 5, 2018 +231
F****** christ i’ve been playing games ever since i’ve known myself and this is the cringiest shit i’ve ever seen
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g0atmeal Jul 5, 2018 +18
*"You look like just enough XP to level up..."*
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yb4zombeez Jul 5, 2018 +359
It's a copypasta.
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DirtySperrys Jul 5, 2018 +76
Due to Listnook's API changes, I've edited all my past comments and will be leaving listnook. Use Redact if you too would like to change your comment history. -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/ -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/
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bphase Jul 5, 2018 +35
I would upvote even if it wasn't. It's honestly quite impressive and amazing how someone can feel that strongly and put all that effort in a post. I can appreciate it even if it is ridiculous.
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TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK Jul 5, 2018 +149
when gamergators comment on listnook, they're not sending their best
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justcool393 Jul 5, 2018 +44
some of them, I assume, are good people
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willmcavoy Jul 5, 2018 +25
I still can’t believe he f****** said that shit.
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Averant Jul 5, 2018 +31
Then you're not trying hard enough. FORWARD UNTO THE CRINGE!
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ardoin Jul 5, 2018 +160
https://i.imgur.com/9P8FUU8.jpg
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[deleted] Jul 5, 2018 +80
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MegaDerp161 Jul 5, 2018 +191
/r/GamersRiseUp
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