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News & Current Events Apr 19, 2026 at 9:35 PM

The Oslo patient is the seventh man in the world likely cured of HIV: 'Offers hope'

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The Oslo patient is the seventh man in the world likely cured of HIV: 'Offers hope'
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The Oslo patient is the seventh man in the world likely cured of HIV: 'Offers hope'
Researchers at Oslo University Hospital have closely examined the man's blood, bone marrow, and intestines without finding any trace of active HIV virus.

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StemCellPirate 5 days ago +159
Stem cells and regenerative medicine will change the future of humanity.
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Loose_Skill6641 5 days ago +76
problem is price, even if this therapy has a high success rate the cost is prohibitive - one article said a women was cured after 14 months of treatment with the stem cells costing her $280,000
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Whatisausern 5 days ago +87
It will get cheaper with time as technology improves.
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wolflordval 5 days ago +44
Until all research and treatments are banned by religious idiots who think stem cells are made by putting babies in blenders or something.
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threeme2189 5 days ago +5
Wait... They aren't? What's the return policy like at Dan's pitchfork emoprium? Asking for a friend.
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Zanadar 5 days ago +7
Don't listen to him, all science is literally just putting babies in blenders. Do you know how many babies were wasted before we got the precise ethnic blend (pun intended) necessary to make asbestos to put into everything? Besides Dan's a prick, gotta have the original receipt, gotta return it in pristine condition, in it's original packaging and he's one of those astrology nuts, so he won't accept it at all if Mercury is in Uranus.
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threeme2189 4 days ago +1
I've never put any mercury close to there! It's dangerous stuff.
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Upbeat-Builder-8885 3 days ago +2
This made me snort
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rice_not_wheat 5 days ago +49
When I had a stem cell transplant 25 years ago, it cost $250,000. With inflation, $280,000 is technically cheaper.
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BikebutnotBeast 5 days ago +5
Good point.
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glmory 5 days ago +21
This is the thing I have the hardest time getting people to see with new technology. They always look at what it is today, not asking questions like how does it scale? Penicillin was ridiculously expensive for the first few patients. Solar panels were too expensive for anything but satellites. It is normal that innovations start expensive then push down the cost curve.
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F1NANCE 5 days ago +10
Personal computers were as big as entire rooms and cost and absolute shit load of money.
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w1n5t0nM1k3y 5 days ago +4
"Personal" computers never took up entire rooms. That's what made them personal, when they were finally small enough and c**** enough that you could have one sitting on or beside your desk.
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borninthewaitingroom 5 days ago +1
How do you scale this at $280K a pop? Of course, I forgot. The government funds it till it goes down.
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Rccctz 5 days ago +8
20 years is only one generation
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LegsAndArmsAndTorso 5 days ago +3
Indeed. The first human genome sequence, completed by the Human Genome Project in 2003, cost approximately $2.7–3 billion. Today, a human genome can be sequenced for around $200 on modern high-throughput systems, and individuals are now even running privacy-preserving, at-home genomics workflows with local analysis on a DGX Spark, a desktop system starting at £4,200 in the UK.
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Tomstephenanovik 5 days ago +2
They said the same about renewable energy, now my power bills are 3x what they were in 2019.
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Whatisausern 5 days ago +2
That's not really got anything to do with renewables and instead is a function of how fucked energy markets are.
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C17H27NO2_ 5 days ago +8
That's c****. When the government pays for all the medications anyways in Norway, it will probably be much cheaper in the long run.
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Stable_Orange_Genius 5 days ago +1
That does assume governments act rational tho
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Jkabaseball 5 days ago +9
14 months of high end treatment for 280k? Thats not bad at all, in the US there are million dollar treatments.
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HappySlappyMan 5 days ago +10
Compared to a lifetime of medications and all the health consequences of having even well controlled HIV, that's probably way cheaper in the long run. That is, unless, of course, they contract HIV repeatedly.
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justfortherofls 5 days ago +2
Whoah! You’re paying way too much for stem cells. Who’s your stem cell guy?
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ID100661 5 days ago +2
We could try taxing the rich
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hextree 5 days ago +1
That's it? Hot damn that's c****.
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very-polite-frog 5 days ago +7
Sometimes I wonder how the world will transition to 150 year lifespans, or even perpetual lifespans if we reach that kind of tech.  A lot of current economic and social infrastructure would change
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Suitable-File1657 5 days ago +46
So a direct infusion of cash?
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Loose_Inspector898 1 day ago +1
I understood that reference
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sqparadox 4 days ago +5
Nothing new here, just another bone marrow transplant curing HIV. Been known for almost 2 decades.
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mogadi70 5 days ago +3
great news
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Zettinator 5 days ago -85
You already have the same life expectancy as people w/o immune diseases with modern drugs. I'd say hope is not needed, we're already in a good position. HIV is like some annoying chronic disease today, not the death sentence it was in the past. In addition, people at risk of HIV infection can get PrEP for a super effective protection. At this point, the ability to properly cure HIV would be nice to have, but hardly a game changer.
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StemCellPirate 5 days ago +84
Seriously? Do you have HIV? I’m sure if you did you would prefer a cure rather than just maintaining over all health status. Curing any disease if you are infected or suffer from it is a game changer.
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Sea-Escape-8109 5 days ago +34
The Meds For HIV Cost 15000$ per Year. A Cure could bei cheaper.
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StemCellPirate 5 days ago +18
Yes plus the stigma must be difficult to deal with. As the 7th patient reported to be cured in the world discussed in the article, it was a shocking comment by @zertinator saying that a cure would hardly move the needle. Again I understand the logic of his/her thoughts but damn, talk about not being tuned into the socioeconomic impact globally.
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Top_Cow_766 5 days ago +2
You changing between your own words and chatgpt....
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StemCellPirate 5 days ago -9
lol ok. Please down vote and move on.
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Ashrod63 5 days ago -2
You do understand what's involved with this treatment, right? The patient is still dependent on medication for the rest of their lives and their immune system is completely wiped out and has to be built back up from scratch. It's nice for the patients to be free from the stigma, but if it's concern over improving their life or some sort of twisted view of economic benefit then this is not it. Look at it this way: we've had this treatment that has been proven to work for nearly twenty years and to date it's only been done seven times.
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StemCellPirate 5 days ago -1
Yes I do. You’re incorrect about life long medication. What medication are you talking about and why? This works, the reason it’s only been done 7 times is a different story. Costs being the biggest factor without any company or entity to take this into phase 1-3 trial and approval. Which would be well over 1000 patients. So to give you some basic numbers For wiping out immune system at $200k per patient, bone marrow donor collection $50k long term monitoring $200k per patient (based on 5 year remission end point). Each patient will cost roughly $450k. This is super low end. Phase 1 study 10-20 patients cost= $4.5m -$8m Phase 2 study 100-300 patients cost = $45m-$135m Phase 3 study 500-1000 patients cost = $225m -$500m Post BLA monitoring = $2000m These costs are super ball park and doesn’t include company burn rate as well as CRO and manufacturing costs. This is well over a billion dollars to develop and would be unaffordable for patients and insurance runs away from these types of therapies.
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Ashrod63 5 days ago +1
A bone narrow transplant, much like any other transplant runs the risk of rejection. This has come up time and again whenever this cure comes up (and even your article here notes it as a concern). Medication is given to reduce this risk. Ultimately this is not going to be a widespread routine procedure to cure HIV. It is an option, and certainly one that those who have undergone it will be glad to have had but this is a wonderful side effect of treatment for other conditions, not something that's useful for HIV as the primary goal.
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StemCellPirate 5 days ago
What medication are you on for the rest of your life as you stated in your original comment? I understand it’s a bone marrow transplant.
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Ashrod63 5 days ago +2
The risk of tissue rejection persists for life and immunosuppresents needs to keep being taken to reduce this risk. Bone narrow transplants are no different.
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ididntunderstandyou 5 days ago +3
I live with a bone marrow recipient. He took medication for like 2 years, as his immune system built itself back up. Now he’s fine and not taking anything anymore. The procedure is absolutely risky and one I wouldn’t wish on anyone. But the lifelong medication is not a thing in this case
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StemCellPirate 5 days ago
Negative. Have worked with recipeints off immunosuppressants
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StemCellPirate 5 days ago
Have you ever heard of car-t therapy? Look it up and see the mortality rate and how it’s administered. Beginning with wiping out a patients immune system.
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StemCellPirate 5 days ago
Not going to respond you’re arguing for the sake of arguing and completely missing the point.
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kvlt_ov_personality 5 days ago +3
Just because HIV patients have a good prognosis today doesn't mean we should stop researching cures. We don't know what novel viruses may evolve in the future or what their vector of infection will be. We were able to develop the COVID-19 vaccine so quickly because it was helped by research on the SARS virus. Developing a cure to HIV may help cure other similar viruses in the future that we haven't even discovered yet.
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SitamaMama 5 days ago +8
In first world countries\*. Every point in your message only applies to first world countries, and even in some of those, only to the ones that can afford the things you list. Medications for HIV are expensive, and the vast majority of people with HIV are \*not\* in first world countries, where the only means to get these treatments are through charities. Charities that can't supply the tens of millions of people infected with said medications, and those they \*can\* supply, they often can't supply enough to keep them on a steady and reliable treatment. It very much IS a game changer to eliminate an infectious disease when the majority of people with it can't even be treated due to lack of access or lack of ability to pay for it. (Which is why HIV vaccines that are in the works are very important and shouldn't be shut down or crippled by the US administration cutting funding for \*literally no reason at all\*. A reminder that all funding from the US government to HIV vaccine research, including one such vaccine that was already in early trials, has been cut by the administration and they will only have access to donor funding starting June of this year.)
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StemCellPirate 5 days ago +24
This is why Listnook is so good, you post a great article or news about something relevant to the world and cockroaches come out to argue against or just spew misinformation. lol. Smh
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HereIGoAgain99 5 days ago -19
lol, yeah, Listnook usually runs on feels and vibes, not difficult arguments that are sourced from reliable outlets.
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kvlt_ov_personality 5 days ago +14
You took one statistic (71% of new infections are homosexual men) and then used it to make the unfounded claim that HIV would have ceased to exist in the human population were it not for this percentage of new infections. It doesn't seem plausible that a disease would be eradicated if one third of new infections continued to persist, unless you have a source for this claim as well.
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mistertoasty 5 days ago +11
Any STI could be eradicated if people always practiced safe sex. Teen pregnancies could be eliminated if teens always practiced abstinence. COVID could have been ended in 2 weeks if everyone stayed inside. But expecting people to behave perfectly is not, and never has been, an effective health policy. Attacking gay men for something that is universal human nature says a lot about you.
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HereIGoAgain99 5 days ago -7
It isn’t attacking the gay community. The numbers are stark. About [70% of gay men have sex without condoms](https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6647032/). Meanwhile, they’re having an average of 7-8 different sexual partners per year. They do this knowing that between 1 in 5 to 6 have HIV. That is reckless behavior and deserves to be called out. How many innocent people have been given infected blood transfusions?
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mistertoasty 5 days ago +1
You explicitly said that 71% of new infections are gay men, and then said that the disease could be eliminated if gay men all practiced safe sex. Which is completely false because it doesn't account for the other 29% of infections. > They do this knowing that between 1 in 5 to 6 have HIV. You're using the global average, which is disingenuous at best. The prevalence is much lower in developed countries. Still a concern? Absolutely. But don't fear monger. > That is reckless behavior and deserves to be called out.  It is, frequently. Tons of public health messaging is focused at gay and bi men and their safe sex practices. But the health professionals who do so have the decency to use relevant information rather than half-informed ideas. Your comment isn't helpful. > How many innocent people have been given infected blood transfusions? Very few, because blood banks test for HIV. And for decades have had policies which tend to exclude gay or bi men even if they have been monogamous for years.
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HereIGoAgain99 5 days ago
You didn't even read the study I reported. They're US numbers, not a global average. And \*I\* didn't say that. It's from the CDC. It's literally the definition of relevant information. And I stand by the assertion that unprotected, risky sexual practices from gay men are the driving cause of HIV. You have to be blind to not understand that. This disease has been thrust onto the general population due to the risky sex practices of gay men. I'm sorry that makes you feel bad, but it's the truth.
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Miserable-Object-937 5 days ago +3
Thank god you brought that study to justify your homophobia. We’re enlightened now. 👏
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mistertoasty 5 days ago +1
And you failed to understand my comment. > They do this knowing that between 1 in 5 to 6 have HIV. This is not the US rate of prevalence. If you're going to use the US rate in one place, don't use the global average here. The infection level of HIV in gay/bi men in the US is nowhere near 16-20%. The global average is much higher due to infection rates in Africa, which are far less correlated with gay sexual contact. > This disease has been thrust onto the general population due to the risky sex practices of gay men This disease was thrust onto the general population after making the jump from other primates. The actual original vector of infection isn't well understood but was probably driven by colonial practices and poor healthcare infrastructure in African countries. You're making boring appeals to emotion because you desperately want to paint HIV as a moral failing of gay people. You sound like Ronald Reagan. > I'm sorry that makes you feel bad, but it's the truth. I never disputed the 71% number that you so desperately cling to. As a bi man, I am acutely aware of the danger of HIV. I practice safe sex and get tested regularly.  But your original claim is wrong, and you can't admit it. If gay men all abstained from sex for the next year, it would not eliminate new HIV infections. Your original comment suggests that we shouldn't spend money on HIV treatment because gay men should all practice perfect safe sex or abstinence. My point stands: that is an ineffective health policy. Not only does it abandon those who were already infected to a horrible death (again, like Reagan wanted in the 80s) but it ignores the fact that humans don't practice safe sex in general.  Should we stop developing antibiotic treatments for gonorrhea or syphilis because heterosexuals don't always use condoms? STI prevalence is skyrocketing among the elderly after all, shall we tell them "too bad, it's your fault for your sins!". The goal of studies like the one you zealously push on us here is to determine how best to educate and message the populace. It is not intended for you to shame gay people. Modern health practices rely on the fundamental truth that people are not perfect regardless of age, gender, or sexual orientation. 
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HereIGoAgain99 4 days ago +2
You are obtuse. READ THE STUDY! IT ISN'T A GLOBAL AVERAGE. In the study, of US gay men, 16.5% self-reported status of HIV+ and 6.5% were unknown! I'm not going to continue to argue with you if you refuse to accept facts. If you have other numbers, please cite them, as I did. I'm sorry your community is so reckless, and I hope you're part of the minority in your community who uses common sense and practices safe sex. Tell your friends to as well. The rest of us have long grown tired of your "woe-is-me-act" when this is self-inflicted.
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mistertoasty 4 days ago +1
Alright, fine, let's use that number. Does that change the fact that 29% of new infections are unrelated to gay sexual contact? Does it change the fact that the epidemic began in Africa and it had nothing to do with gay men? Does it change the fact that if every gay man in the world stopped having sex tomorrow, HIV would not go away? Why do you ignore all those points? I'll wait. Your views on HIV are regressive, and don't align with medical professional consensus. Just admit it. The numbers you cite don't change that fact. The queer community has heard your "HIV is a punishment for your sins" act for 40 years. It's tired, boring, and ignores the reality of the disease. It wasn't "thrusted onto the general population" by gay people anymore than syphilis was thrusted onto the queer population by straight people.  I'm sorry you're so closed-minded as to think that somehow gay people aren't concerned about HIV. It isn't true. Just like your original claim, that abstinence is somehow an effective health policy. So answer my question directly, because you love to avoid it: do you believe all HIV treatment should stop? Or answer my other questions: should syphilis, Chlamydia, or gonorrhea treatment be withheld even though they are rampant among young and elderly heterosexuals alike?
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Miserable-Object-937 5 days ago +5
Ah. “They did it to themselves, and so they deserve it!” We’ve heard this silly homophobic c*** before. Weak.
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