The SAVE America Act is bad news for Republicans

It's all about selective enforcement. Always has been, still is, and will be. Yes there will be legal challenges but after the election is officially certified then anything that happens after is just " sore losers and complaining ".

Same thing with the poll tests that used to be in place until they were outlawed. Funny how a lot of illiterate white people would have no trouble casting a vote but the test was suddenly scrutinized and needed precision when a black person came up to cast a vote. Anything that leaves a lot of grey area or leaves a person’s ability to cast a vote up to the way an individual polling place operates is bad news.

Should be first comment tbf. There’s always an edge. More succinctly, this hypothetically opens the door for targeted in-person profiling and harassment in key swing areas by ICE, and even a deterrent of naturalized ethnic minorities.

It frustrates me that Democrats would even try to implement this law. It's unconstitutional and they can cite that as a reason for not implementing it.  And before someone chimes in with a "the Republicans don't care if it's unconstitutional," I just want to ask why we should let the Republican antipathy and obliqueness towards the founding document cow us in to submission?  Democratic governors, legislatures and DOJs should be raring to bring this shit to court the moment it passes and gum up any implementation before the mid terms.

This, and worse. Yes, they’ll be selectively applying to invalidate blue votes and blue voters. Just like how in 2024, 7 particular states had statistically impossible results. They’ll enforce things in Austin and Houston, eroding blue votes but enforcement in rural areas will be non-existent. The illegal state voter data the act mandates will be merged with the Palantir ICE and DOGE databases to invalidate millions of blue voters. Many will show up only to learn they can’t vote and it will be too late for courts, corrupt and otherwise, to deal with it.

I don’t think you’re wrong. But also every conservative video I see defending it talks about just showing ID, which you know won’t work in many cases. Passport will work easily. I’m going to guess based on my travel experience that liberals are much much more likelier to have passports and are up on the actual rules of this law. I think this will depress the vote some but will hurt them just as much if not more due to the confusion they are purposely spreading.

But who gets to vote without an ID and it matching the roll? Whenever I go vote them old ladies check that stuff like a hawk.

All election sites have both Republican and Democrat volunteers working the polls at least. If it's done at the precinct level, we'll know. Above that level, who knows

It won’t pass. That’s why it’s bad news for republicans. It won’t pass because people don’t actually want it despite what many say, and it won’t pass because congress nor the US Government at all, has the right to make this law or enforce it. This is more flood the zone garbage to make everyone get outraged. It’s illegal on its face, courts will not uphold it

Cause he’s stupid. He even votes by mail himself. He think it’ll help him, that’s the only reason. It’s always for selfish reasons even if it’s illogical. They still keep harping on illegals voting when there are less than 100 cases of people voting illegally in 26 years. And most were republicans voters and I don’t think many non citizens.

I can’t speak about states where vote by mail is the primary method, but in Texas, mail-in voting was gradually expanded *because* it benefited Republicans. Military, obviously. But it was and still is limited mostly to elderly and rural, two of R’s biggest demos. They’ve had to resort to polling location and ID fuckery to disenfranchise urban voters. 

He wants to get rid of it so everyone has to vote in person. Then he can send ICE out there to harass and detain people long enough for them not to vote. They can’t do that if everyone votes via mail.

That and attacking married women’s voting rights.  Wouldn’t it make more sense to attack unmarried women’s voting if they’re trying to help republicans? The entire thing is meant to cause chaos but even so, feels like they’re taking a huge risk by targeting the groups they’re targeting. 

Here in Utah we only have vote by mail. Gonna suck to actually have to go in. Also the huge downside is I can’t educate myself on every candidate over a week and fill in my ballot. Have to know who I want to vote for when I walk in.

Note: He, himself just voted by mail yesterday.

Democrats heavily voted by mail during COVID, because they were acting responsible in public when Republicans made it their whole personality to behave irresponsibly during a pandemic. That's whey election night showed Trump as winning a second term, then by the next day Biden was in the lead and confirmed the w*****. This has stuck in his head since then, so to him mail in ballots are bad. Even though elderly are one of the highest vote by mail voters AND one of the most Republican demographics.

Because they will be selective in their enforcement. This law will only be enforced in the relatively few populous areas that have democratic majorities.

It’s because he is so narcissistic he actually believes he lost the election to Biden because of mail in ballot fraud.

He voted my mail just this week. Rules for the people I don't like, but no rules for me.

Mail voters can't be screened at in-person polling locations by ICE.

Because knowing computers doesn't affect mail ins.

He's really stupid and gets fixated on shit. The people implementing this shit are too scared to challenge him.

It will prevent Democratic wins, thus preventing accountability and rule of law from being enforced on the criminal Trump-Epstein class.

He’s pulling a Lelouche from code geass, is the only conclusion here.

They keep pretending that they are popular, MAGA is over 50 percent retired folks who aren’t getting any younger.

So there are two things going on here. For starters, there are some very prominent people in the administration, like Stephen Miller, who see this bill not *necessarily* as a way to suppress the vote per se (though it will obviously do that), but rather, as an agent of mass chaos. Because you have to understand, even if this bill passes, the House of Representatives may already be a lost cause, *especially* if the stuff with Iran keeps spiraling out of control. The only surefire way they can prevent Democrats from taking control of the House is by ‘causing an *enormous* amount of chaos during the election. That will lead to unclear results, and give them an excuse to establish the fascist dictatorship that they’ve always wanted. From that perspective it doesn’t matter how this bill affects Republican turnout in 2028, because the 2028 election either won’t happen or it won’t be fair. As for Trump, we saw in Minnesota that he isn’t *as* emotionally invested in establishing a fascist dictatorship as Miller is. If he was then he would have done what Steve Bannon suggested, and just kept escalating. But despite that, he still supports the SAVE Act for two reasons, and that is to settle personal scores, and prevent Congress from investigating him.

Idk, man. My uncle thinks himself a Christian and voted for the guy three times. It's a tight race.

There’s at least 77 million that are even dumber

they want to disenfranchise as many women as possible as they know the ones who did vote for Trump and now deeply regretting that in all the polls on that particular item. So now he wants to keep as many as possible from voting by throwing up hoops to jump through that busy people will often just say fuggit and skip the election.

That's what I am wondering, these rules would certainly devastate the low information voters MAGA is currently feeding on. Unless they just throw them out the window in rural red counties when its "oh, hey Joe, no need to see your ID, I know you". One can only hope if they actually get this through and it survives any court challenges that Dems have poll watchers in ever rural red county to make sure the rules are equally enforced.

this right here. It's rules for thee, not for me, and a chance to really decrease voter turnout. When you can't win, cheat!

They also want to keep trans people from voting! Another step in the ol’ process. Can’t get a new or renewed passport with your current legal gender, and most states either don’t let you update your birth certificate at all or make it very obvious that it’s an amended copy. Real IDs require all your documents to ‘[sync up](https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2025/04/30/real-id-requirements-among-policies-difficult-for-transgender-nonbinary-arkansans-to-navigate)’ when you apply and the proof of identity is a birth cert or passport, so you have the same problem. So unless you’re one of the handful of trans people who either got a passport while you still could or who was born somewhere that gives you a new-original style updated birth cert, you just… can’t vote if the SAVE Act passes, I guess.

its also mainly for show because everyone in the GOP know it'll be in the courts after it gets passed and signed. this bill was created as a talking point that dems dont care about election integrity.

They are trying to get elements of it in by reconciliation which only requires a simple majority.

They are not stupid, they know more about the data (thank you cambridge analytica) than we do, and they have plans to 'not enforce' or do anything about this when it favors them. This will only be used as a weapon for their interests.

It will be enforced in Maryland but not Oklahoma.

I think a lot of right-leaning folks (not all) don't believe that women should have the right to vote. So while the SAVE Act doesn't outright ban women from voting, in their point of view it's a step in the right direction, even if it deprives them of some votes perhaps.

Because it’s not their votes they are trying to control, just yours.

Invalidity to what? The federal government doesn't certify non presidential elections. They can't "steal" shit here.

TBF, he started it in 2016 when he lost the popular vote to Hillary. Winning the presidency wasn't enough for his cravings

Imagine being a married person and having to get them to change your name on your birth certificate to your married name. It took me a month just to get a certified copy of my original birth certificate which I also had to pay like $40 for... I'm sure the process to amend the name at BIRTH will be super seamless-lmao. Republicans are genuinely the dumbest people on the entire planet.

There is little proof non citizens are voting. This has been a Trump Republican lie from the start. Why don't people listen to the election workers? Stupidity I guess.