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News & Current Events Mar 29, 2026 at 5:44 PM

There Are Now Over 50,000 American Troops in the Mideast

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SlumdogSkillionaire Mar 29, 2026 +7817
Hey, that's more than the Dow!
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simstim_addict Mar 29, 2026 +1890
This is the Department of War
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IDoLikeMyShishkebabs Mar 29, 2026 +432
The one good part about them naming it that is you can instantly tell who's worth interacting with depending on which name they use. Funnily the majority that I've interacted with still refer to it as the DoD
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NoKids__3Money Mar 29, 2026 +156
That's because it's still the Department of Defense, despite what Trump wants you to think. He renamed it by executive order. Only Congress can amend or replace statutory titles and therefore, it's still the Department of Defense.
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C_Ironfoundersson Mar 30, 2026 +52
Its a preferred pronoun
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imaveryniceKaren Mar 29, 2026 +215
Similar to who uses Gulf of America vs. Gulf of Mexico!
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gamespite Mar 29, 2026 +108
I sincerely forgot about that dumb renaming attempt.
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Omateido Mar 29, 2026 +52
And yet still not as dumb as the straight of Trump.
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BigMax Mar 29, 2026 +54
It's a great point. They didn't change the name because they want peace. They LIKE this stuff. They think war is 'cool', the same way a 12 year old thinks Call of Duty is cool. (Which is fine of course, as a *game.)* But to them, this is games/tv/movies coming to life. You can see that especialy with Hegseth who has *so many* awful quotes about "no quarter" and blowing stuff up and "negotiating with missiles" and all that. The people who like the name "Department of War" love having a chance to "play" with all the cool toys and kill people with them.
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whut-whut Mar 29, 2026 +35
For Hegseth, it's more than that. He has a Crusader Cross tattooed on his chest for a reason. He's elevated chaplains to 'the highest rank' in our military because of their connection to god (while eliminating many non-Christian chaplains from our military). He's actively pushing out beards from the military, refusing to give men religious or medical waivers to keep their beards. He held a prayer wishing violence on America's enemies. He wants a holy war to kill muslims and is chomping at the bit to get it.
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whereitsat23 Mar 29, 2026 +30
Man if I could post a Marx brothers gif of the 3 of them shouting ‘TO WAR!’ From Duck Soup
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ChiGuy6124 Mar 29, 2026 +886
Hey, that's a lot more than the Dow.
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Sir-Craven Mar 29, 2026 +191
Gonna be even more by the time tomorrow is done
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VidE27 Mar 29, 2026 +83
Because the dow keep crashing or because the troops keep increasing?
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Sir-Craven Mar 29, 2026 +124
Yes
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algaefied_creek Mar 29, 2026 +38
The more troops in Iran, the more dead troops in Iran, along with higher oil prices = WTF we even doing here?! 
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Brndrll Mar 29, 2026 +16
Freedom™.
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DrMobius0 Mar 29, 2026 +10
I've been watching the Dow like Bondi said and it seems to having some moving in the wrong direction.
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drchippy18 Mar 29, 2026 +81
The coffin and folded flag industry might be the only thing not tanking.
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cjinct Mar 29, 2026 +27
Back in 2017 or so, didn't Trump get a trademark registered in China for Trump coffins?
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BenChandler Mar 29, 2026 +21
I can’t imagine that there aren’t parents of military children that would genuinely contemplate getting capital felonies if their children died and Trump decided to send them back packaged in a Trump trademarked coffin.
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Quotizmo Mar 29, 2026 +13
Let's spare a thought for those that would be elated in equal measure. This white nationalist Christian furor sweeping through the war department right down to the barracks isn't manufactured out of whole cloth. Trump represents that Dream staying deferred.
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probably-do-not-care Mar 29, 2026 +32
Ya but look how well they dressed.
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Historical-One-8222 Mar 29, 2026 +32
To be fair, the DOW was at 50k. That’s probably why DJT deployed exactly that many troops
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Fantastic-Corner-605 Mar 29, 2026 +28
If the war goes on long enough they will have to fight with like 10k soldiers.
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GrapefruitExpress208 Mar 29, 2026 +12
Everytime the Dow goes down, Trump needs to withdraw troops from the middle east.
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Artistic_Half_8301 Mar 29, 2026 +8
Troop$!
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Imaginary-Ad-7919 Mar 29, 2026 +2795
America keeps saying it wants "less involvement", then shows up with 50,000 troops like it’s a surprise party.
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Rabbit-Hole-Quest Mar 29, 2026 +2181
Notice 0 Israeli soldiers are involved in any land invasion in Iran. They are happy to send Americans though.
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Hot-Mathematician691 Mar 29, 2026 +896
Too busy expanding their borders
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SlurmDreams Mar 29, 2026 +568
With American taxpayer dollars.
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starliteburnsbrite Mar 29, 2026 +216
And the support of the majority of Congress and the last several admins that handed it all to them.
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Timeformayo Mar 29, 2026 +174
I do not understand why Israel is considered an ally, and why America acts like its puppet state.
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IrishRepoMan Mar 29, 2026 +65
Interesting roster for the Axis powers this time around. One doesn't fully realize they're part of it yet.
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yakpot Mar 29, 2026 +52
The Axis of Epstein
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Judson_Scott Mar 29, 2026 +24
Israel is, first and foremost, the US's largest money laundry: We give them billions in "aid," which they use to buy arms from US manufacturers. This gets votes from states where those factories are, as well as millions in political donations to both parties from wealthy Jewish/Israeli donors like the Adelsons, Sussman, and Steyer (yes, [that Steyer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Steyer#2020_presidential_campaign)). As always, when asking why politics works in some way that's clearly against US interests, the answer is, "Follow the money."
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imapluralist Mar 29, 2026 +26
Maybe the guy with cameras all over his properties filming rich and powerful people do scandalous things with young women...just saying...maybe...just maybe...the same guy who was - even after death - powerful enough to prevent the disclosure of the extent of all that information....maybe...just maybe...that guy was an intelligence operator who was engaged in blackmailing powerful people in the US for the benefit of a nation-state....who maybe...just maybe...was Isreal - which had it's tendrils so deeply sown in the power structure that it could compromise and leverage even the most powerful person in the United States such that they would ignore a blatant genocide and engage in a ground invasion of their sworn enemy who was no threat to the US whatsoever. Maybe...just maybe...they keep framing this guy as a pedophile financier to downplay the fact that he was actually a figurehead of the most effective mossad blackmail operation on the face of the planet.
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TOMC_throwaway000000 Mar 29, 2026 +46
Yeah this is literally just to run cover for them while they colonize more
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WHSRWizard Mar 29, 2026 +206
Israel is willing to fight to the last American.
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kingofcrob Mar 29, 2026 +35
operation human shield
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ProudMtns Mar 29, 2026 +79
Kinda lost in all this bullshit that they've launched a full invasion of Lebanon. Crazy it's not being reported more. 
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GreyMatter22 Mar 29, 2026 +131
Someone will comment: ‘but we have a small population, we can’t just deploy troops to a large country 🥺’. Without mentioning they keep killing negotiators along with their families anytime a longer term solution is looking likely.
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rothrolan Mar 29, 2026 +53
Plus they have an active conscription duty for all young men to serve like 2 years minimum in their military...yet when they helped start an active war like this they're nowhere to be found. I swear to god if somehow Trump manages to push a draft, I'd rather defect to Ukraine and help them out in a much more important and logical war. F*** all of this. EDIT: learned from others that it is in fact ALL adults (with exceptions) who are required to do military service for a few years in Israel. Also learned there are military operations that the Israeli soldiers are currently doing...HOWEVER, I do believe that those operations are primarily not directly against the very country they had asked the US to help fight a war with. They are actually invading f****** Lebanon. Seriously, we the United States are NOT helping the "good guys" here. It's a stretch to call Iran good currently either, but this all really stupid, disorganized, and unnecessary. I can't wait until we eventually chalk this up to a loss, to further bury the Trump name from any sort of good-meaning in future history books. Worst president in US history, and he's only nearly halfway through the term.
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see-these-bones Mar 29, 2026 +33
hey now they also kill the journalists reporting on it
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JagmeetSingh2 Mar 29, 2026 +51
poor american blood paying for rich Israeli decisions
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deezypoh Mar 29, 2026 +19
Yeah thats their plan. Every country involved is more than happy if the U.S. sends ground troops. It weakens the U.S. the most. Orange man is getting played.
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Ozone220 Mar 29, 2026 +31
Too busy invading southern Lebanon. I don't know how it isn't in the news more that *1/5 of Lebanon's population* has been displaced in the last month, and over a hundred children killed
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crimsonfang1729 Mar 29, 2026 +63
Ngl this reminds me of the stories my grandparents told me when I was young. Also reminded of some protests songs from that time too. "Lyndon Johnson told the nation Have no fear of escalation I am trying everyone to please Though it isn't really war We're sending 50,000 more To help Vietnam from Vietnamese" From Lyndon Johnson Told the Nation by Tom Paxton
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Magnetic_Eel Mar 29, 2026 +134
Congress could end this tomorrow
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chrisms150 Mar 29, 2026 +72
Well, yes and no. Congress could end our military involvement tomorrow. But ultimately Iran decides when this is over. They likely keep the strait closed for weeks or months post a US withdraw to twist the knife of "Don't f*** around if you don't want to find out" a little bit more into the wound.
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sleepymeowth052 Mar 29, 2026 +39
honestly they should. there's a reason we haven't fucked with iran, and apparently we need to relearn it
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rakerber Mar 29, 2026 +121
Republicans could end this tomorrow. Democrats have made it clear they want it over. This is not a Congress issue. This is purely on the Republicans
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Cultural-Company282 Mar 29, 2026 +61
We needed 150,000 to invade Iraq, which was a smaller, less populous country. I'd say 50,000 is far less than what we'd need for a full-scale ground invasion. The problem is, when you're waging war with another country, you don't always get to dictate "less involvement."
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cyanescens_burn Mar 29, 2026 +72
Isn’t Iran better educated (loads of engineers and scientists), better armed, larger, has naturally defensible terrain in key areas, and has been planning for this exact scenario for 40-50 years compared to Iraq? Whole different beast from what I’ve been reading.
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Velocity-5348 Mar 29, 2026 +35
Yep. It's government is also a lot less fragile. It lost its Supreme Leader and kept chugging along, albeit with some hiccups.
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notospez Mar 29, 2026 +31
They are one of less than ten countries worldwide with a space program able to launch their own satellites. They have successfully launched multiple imaging ("spy") and telecoms satellites over the past decade. They're also providing the Russian army with knowledge on drones. This is not Venezuela 2.0! Sure, in terms of pure naval and air power they're no match to the US. But they definitely have thousands of drones and missiles capable of taking out oil and gas tankers, and you can bet they have enough sea mines to make things even harder. This type of asymmetrical warfare is almost impossible to win.
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Online_Commentor_69 Mar 29, 2026 +37
Iran has 2 million men at arms. A full scale ground invasion would require every last US soldier and then some.
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tgt305 Mar 29, 2026 +13
And then the US downgraded their troops to a f*** ton. Paraphrasing Bill Wurtz
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DingerSinger2016 Mar 29, 2026 +15
We already had 40K stationed there. This is an additional 10K.
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-lv Mar 29, 2026 +178
One fifth of the US troops that invaded Iraq. Not counting the 120.000 troops from allies (US had allies then). So what do they want to do with 50.000?
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Chillers Mar 29, 2026 +70
Sacrifice
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SPQR_191 Mar 29, 2026 +21
40000 were already there. The additional 10 is just bluster.
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bagelundercouch Mar 30, 2026 +20
Yeah thanks, there’s usually between 40-50k in CENTCOM area of responsibility. I hate the orange turd as much as anyone but this article is some clickbaity silliness. 
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Weird_Yam6398 Mar 29, 2026 +384
Does the Bored of Peace know about this?
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-jp- Mar 29, 2026 +167
FIFA is gonna be so disappointed with him.
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ChiGuy6124 Mar 29, 2026 +25
Can they take back the fake award?
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Competitive-Ad-9404 Mar 29, 2026 +3210
This is looking more and more like Vietnam.  No plan.  Just send troops.  Assume the enemy is incapable of fighting back while our true enemies like Russia support them.   It only takes a boat sinking or base being hit with a few hundred casualties and it will be a 10 year war.  And unlike Vietnam, Iran WILL hit U.S. shores. 
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GuerreroUltimo Mar 29, 2026 +724
I try, I really do, to tolerate others. But so many of these people in my area were all about how Democrats, talking about Biden then, had these wars. Trump was getting us out. All this. America first shit and all. Now, they support this because Trump. They believe Iran cannot match our military and will just give in. Every little thing. No war. Not troops will be sent in. Now it looks like they will. Not big deal they say. We will just run them over in a week. And even though they admit there will be some casualties they say it is a small price to pay for our safety and world safety. Keeping those nukes, that capability Trump had already claimed was obliterated, out of Iran's hands. Wont be more than 100 casualties if that i was told yesterday. Well, even if only that, WTF with playing it as a nothing. Tell that to their families. On top of this I could see this being long and losing way more than that. Not sure why they think Iran is so weak, small, and feeble.
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SlowCrates Mar 29, 2026 +173
Like Trump, they have no principles. Just blind faith in Trump.
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Magjee Mar 29, 2026 +13
Blind leading the blind It would take twenty times this number to actually have a successful invasion and hold on the country
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-jp- Mar 29, 2026 +211
> Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible.
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takabrash Mar 29, 2026 +63
I remember reading that when I was like 12 and thinking, "thank god people aren't actually this dumb." Here were are...
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-jp- Mar 29, 2026 +26
Yeah, *Nineteen Eighty-Four* was written expressly as a reaction to real-world fascism and Soviet-style communism. It's not surprising it was so predictive.
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CapableBumblebee968 Mar 29, 2026 +34
I mean… the US is pretty much always at war with someone in the Middle East or getting ready to be
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-jp- Mar 29, 2026 +28
You're not wrong, but the point of that passage was the people's readiness to accept Ingsoc's lies without question.
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tzomby1 Mar 29, 2026 +28
> I try, I really do, to tolerate others. you shouldn't tolerate nazis, cause they wish for the death of many others
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ButtEatingContest Mar 29, 2026 +22
> But so many of these people in my area were all about how Democrats, talking about Biden then, had these wars. Trump was getting us out. And who got us into these wars? Not Democrats.
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vanhellion Mar 29, 2026 +18
>Not sure why they think Iran is so weak, small, and feeble. Name literally any middle eastern country, and I'd bet money that most Americans (a) couldn't find it on a labeled map and (b) think that it's entirely comprised of "backwater" brown people living in tents among sand dunes. Average Americans have no concept of the relative military might between e.g. Afghanistan versus Iran. Let alone them being able to grasp the geopolitical implications of pissing off the country that holds the keys to like a 1/5th of the global supply of oil. They just suddenly get mad when "big truck cost more fill up! \*grunt\*"
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idoma21 Mar 29, 2026 +154
There was a plan in Vietnam: Bomb, bomb, and bomb some more.
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BigHungryFlamingo Mar 29, 2026 +163
Trump literally made a comment yesterday about, “bombing our little hearts out” so, it’s safe to say that’s the plan.  Bomb and throw American bodies into the meat grinder. 
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idoma21 Mar 29, 2026 +68
Well, it worked so well in Vietnam and he is an avid student of history.
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Ordinary-Leading7405 Mar 29, 2026 +30
Graduate of Bone Spurs academy
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turdlepikle Mar 29, 2026 +25
Don't forget how he used Vietnam to compare his personal experience with STDs. *In an unearthed interview from 1997, Donald Trump claimed he was a "brave soldier" for avoiding STDs during his single years in the late '90s.* *"It's amazing, I can't even believe it. I've been so lucky in terms of that whole world, it is a dangerous world out there. It's like Vietnam, sort of. It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave solider," Trump said in the interview when Howard Stern asked how he handled making sure he wasn't contracting STDs from the women he was sleeping with.*
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brokenringlands Mar 29, 2026 +25
>*Trump said in the interview when Howard Stern asked how he handled making sure he wasn't contracting STDs from the women he was sleeping with.* *girls provided by Epstein
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NonsensePlanet Mar 29, 2026 +11
I guess 13 year olds don’t typically have STDs.
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kleincs01 Mar 29, 2026 +8
Pretty sure he was supposed to die in Vietnam
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whoisbill Mar 29, 2026 +28
The same people that listen to "born in the USA" and think it's a super patriotic song are the same people that watch Full Metal Jacket and think "yup. This is a good thing"
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SecretAsianMan42069 Mar 29, 2026 +12
Throw in some r***, too
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Johnsense Mar 29, 2026 +26
Reminds me of McCain singing Barbara Ann: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7s5pT3Rris
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asusc Mar 29, 2026 +292
I’d say it’s looking more and more like Putin and Bibi’s plan to stay in power.  It’s working for them, why not us?
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eetsumkaus Mar 29, 2026 +129
Because even being in war never stopped US elections.
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asusc Mar 29, 2026 +60
You think elections in Russia are fair?  You think there is no coincidence that Trump is trying to fundamentally change how elections are run at the federal level, right before a midterm?  You think Bibi’s impending trial for corruption that has been delayed since Oct 7th isn’t a thing?
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wh0_RU Mar 29, 2026 +37
This is the real concern everyone should have. Trump is corrupting our free & fair elections
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innocentious Mar 29, 2026 +53
he could try to do it like Nixon and claim democrats are communists who are working with the enemy and try to send them to jail,will it work? i dont think so but he could try
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NottheArkhamKnight Mar 29, 2026 +23
If trump supporters were students of history, they'd remember that we didnt even stop elections during the f****** Civil War. Then again, if trump supporters had any modicum of intelligence and the ability to learn, they wouldn't be trump supporters in the first place.
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nochinzilch Mar 29, 2026 +8
“This is *worse*! My feelings are hurt!"
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__slamallama__ Mar 29, 2026 +81
There's one big difference between this and Vietnam. Iran will post high def videos of the last terrified moments of our soldiers while they hunt them with kamikaze drones. I have no idea how Trump's base will manage to blame those videos on Biden, but I'm sure they'll find a way.
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Cancel_Culture_Club Mar 29, 2026 +28
They’ll do the same thing they do with everything they don’t want to see in reality and just dismiss it as fake news or AI or something and then never think about it again. 
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redditobserverone Mar 29, 2026 +20
When grieving families confirm the truth, they will call them crisis actors.
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GeorgeKaplanIsReal Mar 29, 2026 +36
To be fair, Vietnam had a plan, it just wasn’t a very good one and it was still a lot better than this shitshow.
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livefromheaven Mar 29, 2026 +29
Another mess for Democrats to clean up. Story of my life
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-no_aura- Mar 29, 2026 +22
Just in time for millions of idiots vote the GOP back into power so they can take credit.
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jo726 Mar 29, 2026 +16
And there was a local ally during the Vietnam War. South Vietnam provided a lot of troops. Here the USA is alone.
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TigerGrizzCubs78 Mar 29, 2026 +14
Iran can hit US bases, that's no question. Alaska is about 5700 miles from Iran. The east coast of the US is around 6000 miles.
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defectconstraint Mar 29, 2026 +14
A container on a ship parked in a US port could pop open, and a dozen drones could fly out and go hit some soft targets nearby.
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cyanescens_burn Mar 29, 2026 +11
They’ve been expecting this for decades. Who knows they could have bought a bunch of warehouses in Mexico and sent drone components over in separate shipping container to assemble them in the warehouses when they got attacked.
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morvanyx Mar 29, 2026 +34
The Vietnam comparison is chillingly accurate regarding the ‘incremental' escalation. It’s always just a few more troops until it’s a full blown generation-defining conflict.
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RamonaQ-JunieB Mar 29, 2026 +7
I hate that I have also been saying this exact same thing.
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Zimmonda Mar 29, 2026 +15
The first fpv drone video of us troops getting killed is going to send shockwaves
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etxipcli Mar 29, 2026 +11
Yeah the US shore attack seems like a real risk this time. Look at Ukraine did with drones in Russia or Israel did with pagers in Lebanon. Just thinking about these drones, could they be smuggled in and assembled here? War seems like it's changed in a way where we're vulnerable like we haven't been in the past.
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Legitimate-Wash-6336 Mar 29, 2026 +743
50,000 souls for Epsteins coffers.
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Certain_Revenue9278 Mar 29, 2026 +106
Coffins are cheaper than responsibility 
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Legitimate-Wash-6336 Mar 29, 2026 +22
How many souls is the Epstein files worth ;)
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RingSplitter69 Mar 29, 2026 +1276
Can't even get mad at the Iranians for what will happen to these troops. If these troops make landfall we will be seeing the same grisly drone footage that we see from the Ukraine war but it will be American soldiers instead. The only country where this war is popular is Israel, where it is wildly popular because Americans are fighting it. The American public do not want this war but it will be their sons dying in it. F*** Trump, f*** Netanyahu and f*** Israel.
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Terrible_turtle_ Mar 29, 2026 +435
>If these troops make landfall we will be seeing the same grisly drone footage that we see from the Ukraine war but it will be American soldiers instead I don't think enough Americans have been paying attention to what is happening in Ukraine to understand what is coming in Iran if boots hit the ground.
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HumbleAd1384 Mar 29, 2026 +167
It will be the whole “I don’t agree with this but I support the troops especially when they are getting shot at.”
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OldCherryot Mar 29, 2026 +172
I've never understood how the "support the troops" line is almost exclusively used to mean "send the troops into danger unnecessarily."
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The_Beardly Mar 29, 2026 +114
It’s virtue signaling. Because saying “I support the troops” doesn’t require any personal investment or action from that person other than saying some words. They don’t actually care about them going to war. Then they get to double dip and “pray for their family” when the soldier comes home in flag draped coffin.m. They get to feel good about themselves for their thoughts and prayers while the lives around the person who died are destroyed and irreversibly changed forever. If someone really cared about the troops, they would be anti-war so that their lives don’t need to be lost.
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HumbleAd1384 Mar 29, 2026 +24
Yup. The best way to support the troops is to not send them to places we have no business being in. You know, like sovereign nations. 
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whoisbill Mar 29, 2026 +40
Rage against the machine said it best "This time the bullet cold rocked ya A yellow ribbon instead of a swastika Nothin’ proper about ya propaganda Fools follow rules when the set commands ya"
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Excellent_Leader5076 Mar 29, 2026 +40
I can confirm that. As an American who is extremely familiar with the Ukraine war (my loved one fought there), it’s actually disheartening how many Americans have no idea the severity and complexity of the violence happening there. American media and social media in general does a good job of shielding the general public from graphic, real footage of what happened and is happening on the ground there. Because they’re never exposed to this disturbing side of reality, they live their lives really detached from it. I really think the public needs to see more graphic war footage to actually grasp what happens in war and feel how truly fucked up it is.
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Tight-Escape3373 Mar 29, 2026 +60
As a former American Army officer, this might be what it takes for the American public. I was in Korea while Trump was having his bitchfit with Kim. Our O-Plans basically involved our units being human speed bumps and we knew we were all going to get smoked as the only American cannon units on the peninsula. In the artillery community we all knew that a fight against an equipped and trained force would be something completely different from what the US Military experienced in Iraq and Afghanistan. It would be a blood bath. I cringe every time I see a video of a Russian soldier getting smoked by a drone in Ukraine. It's brutal even if they're invaders. It's not a soldier's death. It's an execution.  The American people are not ready to see this happens to its sons and daughters but when it does, the only people we have to blame are ourselves as voters, and the bastards the American people put in power.
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bstone99 Mar 29, 2026 +24
Hear hear. Every Trumper is 100% to blame for this shit. I’ve been watching videos out of Ukraine for 4 years now. Gonna feel weird when it’s US servicemen on the receiving end in these videos rather than Russians. This was all by design though, Putin got what he wanted in 2016, trump has done everything Putin wanted. Now he (and China) gets to watch the US waste resources and time focused on other shit instead of the actual adversaries, China and Russia.
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hotpajamas Mar 29, 2026 +72
This amounts to treason in my mind. He’s deliberately sending Americans to their death because no reasonable person would ever assume Iran could be toppled or controlled with the troops he’s sending. No reasonable person could believe that it’s in our interests to start this war in the first place. And by all measures we are weaker and and in a worse position than we were before, probably for many, many years. At some point you have to ask what more could he do to sabotage the country? Set off a bomb within our own borders? Because starting pointless wars and sending people to die, especially when he mislead his base and the world about doing it, just seems like treason. Is it for Putin or Saudi Arabia? Bibi? Who’s the benefactor because it isn’t the US.
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disquieter Mar 29, 2026 +16
I agree. This mean has done just about everything a president could to weaken us and diminish our interests. Is that treason?
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GrafZeppelin127 Mar 29, 2026 +13
Not to mention the war is *prima facie* illegal, since per the constitution it’s *Congress* that has to declare war, not the President acting unilaterally.
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alnarra_1 Mar 29, 2026 +54
It’s going to demoralize troops as well, because they’re not going to coming home to warm and welcome arms. They’ll be called what they rightfully are, invaders in a foreign land the majority of us want nothing to do with
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Chemical-Fault-7331 Mar 29, 2026 +19
Just wait for the drones to start slaughtering troops. It’s going to take such an insane amount of counter UAS over there and you know Trump is gonna leave those guys high and dry. This isn’t the taliban in Afghanistan that we are dealing with. This is Iran. They will be making use of shahed drones and troops will die. But hey, Trump’s fatass doesn’t care. He’ll be too busy golfing. He doesn’t give a single f*** about the troops.
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LeneHansen1234 Mar 29, 2026 +456
I wonder when the American public will revolt. Boots on the ground means coffins coming home soon.
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ChiGuy6124 Mar 29, 2026 +221
They won't revolt until they instill a draft. They already raised the age and lowered requirements, so we know they need people. If this war continues some kind of draft is next.
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bstone99 Mar 29, 2026 +27
Or until gas prices rise a dollar or two more. THAT is what we Americans care about most! That’s our red line! I wish I could put an /s
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HousingOk6362 Mar 29, 2026 +51
I am not so sure about that. If they reinstate the draft, that is going to create/free-up a lot of jobs here in the states.
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big-titty-brat Mar 29, 2026 +63
And they don’t have millions of housewives at home waiting to pick up the slack this time.
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jellyhessman Mar 29, 2026 +32
And no manufacturing capacity while pissing off the people who make their shit.
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OneRougeRogue Mar 29, 2026 +7
China banning rare earth imports to the US would cause the US to immediately lose the war.
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Bananajackhamma Mar 29, 2026 +4
There it is. So many product lines have been shipped out of the states that even pretending like manufacturing next to anything stateside is even a factor anymore. What could they possibly replace Rosie with? A fckn OF banner and a picture of some feet? It's comical how ultra cooked almost every aspect of U.S. 'murica we number 1 is now.
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Shermanator92 Mar 29, 2026 +47
I do fully believe that even reinstating the draft won’t do…anything. Most Americans won’t respect it. The amount of manpower to enforce the draft will outweigh the amount of people the military gains through the draft. The American public does not support this cause.
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adidab69 Mar 29, 2026 +28
One thing that'll be nuts are all the social media videos of young adults being kidnapped by police/ICE/military to be taken to recruiters like in Ukraine and Russia. We are not prepared for all of this
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DivinityPen Mar 29, 2026 +37
American here, can confirm. If ANYTHING got people to start rioting here, it’d be trying to implement and enforce a draft. 
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oldveteranknees Mar 29, 2026 +21
Disagree. Drafting folks means a reduction in productivity. Those 18-26 year olds are being taken from their jobs. It also means less college aged men go to college, reducing recruitment and the population’s education levels. See Israel when they did a call up in the immediate aftermath of October 7th, or when they called up 10000 reservists for their previous Lebanon incursion. Their economy took a hit. Unless you’re being sarcastic then lmao, because I could 100% see Trump saying “look at the unemployment rate!”
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eorlingas_riders Mar 29, 2026 +128
Took a decade for the revolutionary war and civil war to kick off. The revolutionary war didn’t kick off because people were killed. It kicked off because of taxes. The civil war didn’t kick off purely because of slavery in the sense of mistreatment/enslavement of people. The South kicked it off because they would lose money due to lack of free labor. Normal citizens do not generally want war/revolution. They want normalcy with chosen excitement, and they are not going to revolt because thousands of soldiers die. They will revolt when the ability to live that normalcy is **majorly** impacted and not before. The midterms is a major turning point because it is seen as a bastion of hope right now to maintain that normalcy. If that is viewed as corrupted, stolen, or does not have the results people expect. I would imagine we will see a much larger shift down in normalcy, which may force people to begin organizing. But it’s not happening a moment before then when there’s still hope.
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ScalieBoi42 Mar 29, 2026 +18
My husband and i are sitting on the fence waiting to see how the midterms play out. Depending on if they're ratfucked or not will factor 100% into whether or not we're moving this year.
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SecretAsianMan42069 Mar 29, 2026 +51
Trump is warming up his finest baseball cap (made in China) for their arrival 
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Blu3iris Mar 29, 2026 +11
What do you think the $40 billion dollars being spent on deportation camps are for? To make sure that doesn't happen. For those that dont revolt, the Army now accepts people up to 42 years old. They'll be shipped off to die.
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ChiGuy6124 Mar 29, 2026 +119
*TACO Trump will probably back down before stepping over the line. Right?* "The arrival of 2,500 Marines and another 2,500 sailors is keeping the number of American troops in the Mideast region at over 50,000 — roughly 10,000 more than usual — as President Trump decides on his next step in his month-old war in Iran." "While it is still unclear just what the Marines, from the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit, will be charged with, U.S. officials say the president is weighing whether to try a larger attack, like venturing to seize an island or other ground as part of Mr. Trump’s effort to open the Strait of Hormuz." "The number of troops no longer includes the 4,500 aboard the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Gerald Ford, however. That ship has been hobbled by constant mishaps, including a fire that broke out in the laundry. The Ford withdrew from the region on March 23 and sailed to Crete. On Friday it arrived in Croatia. It remains unclear where it is headed next." "Last week, the Pentagon also ordered about 2,000 soldiers from the Army’s 82nd Airborne Division to the Middle East to give Mr. Trump additional military options." "The location of the Army paratroopers is not public, the military official said. But they will be within striking distance of Iran. The paratroopers could be used to seize Kharg Island, Iran’s main oil export hub in the northern Persian Gulf, where U.S. warplanes bombed more than 90 military targets earlier this month. Or they could be deployed for other ground operations in conjunction with the Marines." "But military experts caution that even 50,000 troops, many of them at sea, is a small number for any kind of major land operation. Israel used more than 300,000 troops for its operations in the Gaza Strip that began in October 2023. The U.S.-led coalition that invaded Iraq in 2003 was close to 250,000 at the beginning." "At almost a third of the size of the continental United States, Iran has around 93 million people. Taking, let alone holding, a deeply complex country of its size and complexity and weaponry with 50,000 troops, military experts say, is not doable."
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xlvi_et_ii Mar 29, 2026 +117
> 50,000 — roughly 10,000 more than usual I'm not sure most Americans realize that 40,000 are regularly stationed there!
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ChiGuy6124 Mar 29, 2026 +36
Yes but Trump has changed the equation from deterrent to aggressor, starting with tearing up the treaty and than bombing the country, and there may be no going back. Those 50,000 troops mean much more than the previous 40.000.
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Dapper_Engineer Mar 29, 2026 +15
>I'm not sure most Americans realize that 40,000 are regularly stationed there! It's less than the total number of forces stationed in Japan which is \~50k - most of the people commenting here don't really seem to understand how many troops the US has stationed around the world.
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Kloppite16 Mar 29, 2026 +14
50,000 is nowhere near enough. In Iraq alone right now there are 200,000 armed militia who are aligned with Iran. They've already hit the US embassy in Baghdad and the Harir Air Base. If there is a ground invasion then 100% they will cross the border in to Iran to fight
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Shot_Mud_1438 Mar 29, 2026 +21
It’s wild how the problem with the straight being closed didn’t exist until we attacked Iran
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coatofforearm Mar 29, 2026 +112
Taking land and keeping it are 2 entirely different things and I don't think anyone in that administration understands this
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johnnycyberpunk Mar 29, 2026 +30
The only reason to put thousands of troops on the ground is **for regime change**. The assessment *from Trumps own people* is that THERE IS NO ARMED OPPOSITION in country, there is no revolution, the “people” are NOT rising up to ‘take over’. We all know the Kurds aren’t doing it because of how Trump abandoned them last time. And if the plan (?) is 50,000 troops right now, that’s easily another 50,000+ needed for logistics, supply, food+water, ammo, transport, maintenance, repairs, etc. **All also on the ground**. This is an astronomical escalation.
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torgofjungle Mar 29, 2026 +53
We invaded Iraq with literally 10x that. What exactly ate 50k going to do? From a practical standpoint we would need a million plus. Probably more to actually invade
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ChiGuy6124 Mar 29, 2026 +33
Yep it's a bluff, but sometimes bluff go really really wrong. And Trump has not made a single good move in this war so one cannot rule out extreme escalation. US army alone has 500,000 active duty available. Trump sent army into American cities so Iraq is not that much of a stretch.
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torgofjungle Mar 29, 2026 +10
Oh everything about this is a failure. He thought he could just assassinate the ayatollah and declare victory. But since Iran won’t play his game so now he’s going I kill American service members on top of Iranian schoolgirls to get his way
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Weird_Yam6398 Mar 29, 2026 +12
And Iraq has a population of around 45 million. Iran is about twice that.
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PlanetoftheAtheists Mar 29, 2026 +40
Gee, I must have missed trump's campaign speech where he said he would open a global conflict and drive prices up towards a worldwide economic meltdown.
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FernandoTheRN Mar 29, 2026 +42
History books will look back as how vile, evil, and despicable Trump truly is and all his crazy supporters. Why any America would vote for Trump just because of Hate and no other reason.
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Aggravating_Teach_27 Mar 29, 2026 +12
100% correct. Unless you're an oligarch expecting to profit immensely, for normal people there's no other reason to vote for Trump than hate. And most of those who didn't vote? Hate too, but masqued behind two-sideism. Trump is just an extreme syptom of the rot of the american society, where greed, cruelty and insolidarity are seen like actual values.
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KrivUK Mar 29, 2026 +35
But the war was won, but it wasn't, but America can handle solo, but America needs help, but it will be done in 2 days, 10 days, might be 50 days, but EU & other allies need to support, but America is leaving the theatre, but sends in more troops. Have I got this right?
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Alleyprowler Mar 29, 2026 +13
Congratulations! You just nailed your Department of ~~Defense~~ War screening interview.
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bad_chemist95 Mar 29, 2026 +22
If you made a list of countries and ranked their suitability for a ground invasion, Iran would be pretty close to the bottom. Almost the entire border is a massive, jagged mountain range, which means crossing the border directly is a no go. The only real option is air drop everyone in, including vehicles. That might work against a poorly equipped/trained militia but it’s suicide against a well trained and experienced army. If boots end up on the ground then the GOP are in for a 2008 Obama on steroids level upset in November, because it won’t just be a couple dozen troops returning in body bags. It will be thousands.
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I405CA Mar 29, 2026 +67
It would be foolish to go into Iran without at least a half million troops. A million would probably be better. Iraq was easier, with flat terrain and centralized authority. Iran is mountainous and has decentralized its command structure so that cells can fight without relying upon the leadership for instructions. I'm sure that Caine knows this. He knows that they can't do this. Trump is a typical high school bully. He believes that he is the tough guy, so the other side will respond to escalation by giving up. Trump doesn't understand that the superior military does not necessarily win. This is one reason why he believes that Putin is winning, even though he isn't. If he hadn't suffered from his bone spurs problem, he could have seen this for himself.
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BigHungryFlamingo Mar 29, 2026 +51
No, no. We need to send 77 million troops.  Maybe we can make a draft list out of the voter rolls. I’m sure all the people who voted for him will be happy to ship out. 
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Flouid Mar 29, 2026 +28
you joke but the admin has already attempted to seize voter roles potentially for this exact purpose. except it’ll be the 70 million that voted against him
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tarekd19 Mar 29, 2026 +25
I know you're joking but it sounds like a terrible idea to arm and train your political dissidents before sending millions of them to a war they don't want.
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Flouid Mar 29, 2026 +13
I don’t think it’s particularly likely but I wasn’t joking. This has been Russia’s MO since the Ukraine war started and it’s been working out for them. They key is you don’t train them and you don’t arm them until you’ve shipped them away from home. It’s not a good faith attempt to train and arm political dissidents, it’s a politically acceptable way to dispose of them permanently.
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-GuyDeLombard- Mar 29, 2026 +19
All so that we can protect the pedophile in the White House.
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Travelerdude Mar 29, 2026 +36
When has anything Trump ever touched ended well?
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OldTempleHermit Mar 29, 2026 +15
We simply are not going to make a course adjustment here, are we.
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colondollarcolon Mar 29, 2026 +14
So who is the first person that Donald Trump will blame for the death of US ground troops, that he ordered into the combat zone?
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Heddaball1 Mar 29, 2026 +14
Biden
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Timujin1986 Mar 29, 2026 +11
Kamala Harris and Crooked Hillary possibly.
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FalconThrust211 Mar 29, 2026 +12
They're going for Kharg island. Im sure everyone is whispering in the mad kings ear (undamaged somehow weird) that this will end the war overnight. No way it doesn't result in some kind of collateral damage that fucks over the oil markets for Europe and asia. Crazy times.
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TheAardsnark Mar 29, 2026 +9
If they try this, won’t the soldiers just be sitting ducks on the island? Perfect drone targets?
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FalconThrust211 Mar 29, 2026 +11
Yes but we have clowns in charge of our government
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stobak Mar 29, 2026 +12
Is this the "No moar wArs" MAGA voted for?
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Sandy_Bananas Mar 29, 2026 +10
Hubris and stupidity. America, seemingly never changes. This one is going to be a f****** shit-show. One would hope you learn some lessons when this goes south, but I won’t hold my f****** breath. No nation has ever thrown so much away for so little reward.
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Ozzy_21 Mar 29, 2026 +9
"Fresh meat for the grinder, eh?"
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Verum_Orbis Mar 29, 2026 +10
Middle class Americans are selling their blood to pay their bills.
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dkbobby Mar 29, 2026 +10
remember how excited Trump got at the idea of no presidential elections during wartime when he was meeting with Zelenskyy?
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zsreport Mar 29, 2026 +8
So fucked up
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Maoleficent Mar 29, 2026 +7
All those alpha maga bros standing in line to join the service? Not only their patriotic duty but for them, it is a just and godly cause. Have at it. Every time one of these trumpy podcasters are on air they should be asked if they enlisted and if not why not.
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beer_bukkake Mar 29, 2026 +6
MAGA men, here’s your chance to prove to us how alpha you all are, any young men who are maga who aren’t enlisted are huge f****** pussies
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Oceanbreeze871 Mar 29, 2026 +8
“Suckers and losers” according to Donald.
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itsamemyusername Mar 29, 2026 +9
Stocks are going down again next week.
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Donkey-Haughty Mar 29, 2026 +13
50,000 US troops traveled 14,000 kilometres to fight in Iran Zero Israeli troops deployed and its only 1300 kilometres from Israel Why are Isreal soldiers not part of the ground invasion,?
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dentz1 Mar 29, 2026 +7
Trump couldn’t get a management position at a Cinnabon, but yet here we are.
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Terrible_turtle_ Mar 29, 2026 +6
Are fifty thousand troops really going to intimidate the Iran hardliners? This war seems pretty existential to the Iranians.
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Historical_Bend_2629 Mar 29, 2026 +6
Hard not to be cynical towards the NYT. Sane washed Trumpism for a decade.
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Ilsluggo Mar 29, 2026 +4
According to respected military experts, that’s only about 950,000 shy of what would be needed to manage a successful ground invasion.
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ZeroMocha Mar 29, 2026 +5
I hope they all don’t forget who they are doing it for. The trump files and Epstein
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RedofPaw Mar 29, 2026 +7
There is no mystery. Ignore what they say. It's all lies. This is 50k troops going in. They will be on the ground. Dying. Killing. For what?
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iiitme Mar 29, 2026 +7
Our young men and women are over in the f****** desert giving the ultimate sacrifice to protect a pedophile and help him become more rich. Sad. Disappointing
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J-Midori Mar 29, 2026 +9
Poor American troops! It’s a slaughterhouse… but Trump’s happy playing golf and partying… Pam Bondi is sleeping like a baby very comfortably in her mansion, same for all his sycophants
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Cancel_Culture_Club Mar 29, 2026 +7
And the rest of them are all holed up in military housing so they’re safe from the rest of us plebs. Idk how much safer that’ll be if they start getting troops killed for no reason tho. 
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Theferael_me Mar 29, 2026 +4
Maybe they'll get the same friendly welcome that the Russians got when they invaded Ukraine.
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