There’s no way to redeem Trump’s dismal second presidency

Agreed -- but we need to vote in a Democrat who will *get shit done*, and who will tear down every MAGAt/Republican stronghold and every single thing they have done, *and* who will prosecute and imprison the fascist, traitorous bastards for everything they've done. We need a smart, strong, and progressive leader, someone who will rout all the nazis from our government and all other positions of power, not a milquetoast Democrat who tries to make nice with them. *We need to* ***fight back.***

How do you undo the precedent that is Citizens United? Without that, how can anybody trust that your government isn't _directly_ buyable?

The gutting of the civil service cannot be easily unwound. The destruction of our alliances might not be fixable at all. The transfer of our nation's wealth to capitalist cronies will be difficult if not impossible to reverse. Renee Good and Alex Pretti and 60+ other people have been killed by Trump's lawless DHS and there's no bringing them back. The non-fascists have been purged from the leadership of our military and federal law enforcement and restoring a culture of honor and discipline will be the work of decades. We are now up to our ass in a new forever war in the Middle East, this time against an opponent who can actually fight back. The fact that all that was accomplished primarily with executive orders really doesn't mean much. A great deal of this is permanent.

this is more hopium. Old growth forests don't come back. land once drilled and destroyed stays a barren wasteland. assaulted, jailed, and tortured people stay with that trauma. dead people stay dead. This "admin"'s damages cannot be fixed immediately. some damages not ever.

He's singlehandedly ended the American Century

To be fair, Trump is just the symptom, and that's why the US cannot be trusted even with Trump out of the way. The American people and the political establishment made Trump, and if nothing changes will put another like Trump in power in a few years time, and there will be more global disruption and wars, maybe with a former ally next time.

Don't forget the people who made this possible - Sean Hannity, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham, Steve Bannon, the list goes on.

This period only occurred because Bush was let off the hook, which only happened because Nixon was let off the hook. I doubt, as long as it’s still an intact nation, that any American president or oligarch faces any repercussions. I also doubt the USA survives the next two decades as a nation. This is all looking a little like Gorbachev or Yeltsin.

Yeah. As a US citizen, the only way America recovers from this is if we *actually* stop the “rules for thee but not for me” practice of saying “we won’t ever let Americans be tried at The Hague/ICC”. The only path to a future for this country that isn’t dark as f*** is to pull a post-WWII Germany and own the atrocities, not defend those responsible from the consequences of their actions, and make fundamental changes to how we view ourselves/our place in the world. Given current circumstances, that looks/sounds like a pipe dream, but a man can dream, can’t he? I don’t want the dream of what this country *could* be to die, because the dream is one that’s worth everything. And America’s getting awfully close to finally killing *any* chance of realizing our potential, which is truly being a place for everyone and a testament to how democracy works.

The problem is the scale. If we really want to do it properly, we're gonna have to carry out hundreds of thousands if not millions of executions. Are we really willing to go that far?

Couldn't the next person just be like "I declare we now recognize the hague as an international criminal court! Who's gonna stop me?" just like Trump does now anyways?

The best I can do is Gavin Newsom 2028 who will placate the liberals and appease the billionaire class and kick the can of issues down the line for the next generation to clean up.

The blood absolutely is on our hands. And if you refuse to accept that fact, you're irredeemable.

Unfortunately you don't get to wash your hands of what your country does just because you didn't vote for it. The country is still viewed as a totality, nobody has the time to determine who voted for it and who didn't. It voted for it and that's it.