Although the actors are what get the most attention, at the end of the day the writers, producers, and executives are the ones who actually determine what happens in the story and what characters do. If an actor doesn't like the direction their character is being taken in, it's usually out of their hands, they're contractually obligated to do the work. But sometimes, the actor's complaints are actually taken into consideration, especially if the actor is very popular and they don't want to risk them leaving the show or becoming harder to work with. And sometimes new ideas proposed by the actors are good ideas that the writers like.
For example, the season 5 finale of Friends was supposed to end with Chandler being so insecure about Monica having lunch with Richard that he would cheat on her with some random woman in Las Vegas. Matthew Perry refused to film that, since he thought the audience would never forgive Chandler if that happened.
In Star Trek: The Next Generation, Patrick Stewart was annoyed at how sexless his character was, so to please him they made the episode "Captain's Holiday" and a few more romantic subplots for Picard. Stewart also had some creative control over Star Trek: Picard. And on a related note, Star Trek: Deep Space 9 was originally going to have a romantic plot between Major Kira and Gul Dukat, but Nana Visitor objected because she didn't think Kira would ever have feelings for someone who helped genocide her people, so we got the plot of Kira's mother being Dukat's mistress instead.
So what other examples are there of an actor's input actually leading to changes in the story?
On the Suite Life of Zack and Cody, Dylan Sprouse refused to do fat jokes the writers wrote about the actress who played his mom. She was pregnant during some of filming and the writers wanted him to make fat jokes. Every time the lines came up, he would just skip them and go onto the next line.
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JSmellerMMar 28, 2026
+127
Considering his age at the time that was extremely mature.
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Thatoneguy3273Mar 29, 2026
+21
The Sprouse twins seem to have gotten out better than most Disney kids
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foxh8erMar 28, 2026
+25
the thing I found most admirable about this is we had no idea it happened until Kim Rhodes talked about it in 2023.
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theManWithCamoShortsMar 28, 2026
+242
It was Vito’s actor on the Sopranos that suggested they make his character gay.
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dkrtzyrrrMar 28, 2026
+108
yeah it was a play for a bigger storyline that paid off. of the non-antagonists from the main crew (so no richie or ralphie) only christopher and p**** got comparable arcs.
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theTribblyMar 28, 2026
+94
I love how over several seasons Vito ascends from a background character to having one of the biggest subplots in season 6.
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typewriter6986Mar 28, 2026
+14
I think he's an extra in eeeehhhh, I want to say episode 1? Chrissy is at a doughnut shop I think. The actor didn't show up as Vito until later.
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Jackbuddy78Mar 28, 2026
+31
I don't think he suggested the pool cue part though
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Underwater_KarmaMar 28, 2026
+16
But he insisted on the Johnny Cakes
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GlockGuy13Mar 28, 2026
+12
What about the actor who played Gino?
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titanrunner2Mar 28, 2026
+5
Some say he’s still waiting for his pastries.
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AllTheHollowayMar 28, 2026
+317
Liam Cunningham as Davos on Game of Thrones
“When we first meet Daenerys, Benioff and [director Mark Mylod] wanted Davos to have a crush on Missandei. And I fought them. I’m not f****** doing it. It’s the only thing I ever stood up to them on. The woman is a goddess, but with Davos’ history with Lyanna Mormont and Shireen, you can’t have him getting the hots for a young woman. You’re not undoing my hard work engendering the sympathy of the audience to have him be a perv.”
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Swarleystinson69420Mar 28, 2026
+141
In the books he also is married with a family.
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TheLordLetoMar 28, 2026
+95
They kind of forgot about the wife.
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acatmaylookMar 28, 2026
+43
In the books Missandei is also like ten years old.
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tent_mcgeeMar 28, 2026
+11
His sons died at the blackwater in the show, one was with him during the explosion even.
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geek_of_natureMar 29, 2026
+5
I think he only has the one son in the show, the one we saw getting blown up at Blackwater. I cant remember there being any references to other sons or even his wife.
Its something Game of Thrones did a lot, cutting down on the amount of kids everyone had. Margaery and Loras have got two older brothers in the books for example. Willas, who's got a crippled leg as the result of his horse falling on him during a joust with Oberyn, and is the actual heir to Highgarden. And Garlan, who's your more traditional Knight. It's actually Willas who the Tyrells plot to betroth Sansa to before the Lannisters catch wind and quickly marry her to Tyrion.
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RenanXIIIMar 28, 2026
+5
I mean, he does admit to Melisandre that he cheats on his wife in the books.
>”Are you a good man, Davos Seaworth?" she asked.
>
>Would a good man be doing this? "I am a man," he said. "I am kind to my wife, but I have known other women. I have tried to be a father to my sons, to help make them a place in this world. Aye, l've broken laws, but I never felt evil until tonight. I would say my parts are mixed, m'lady. Good and bad."
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SurullianMar 28, 2026
+45
> Liam Cunningham
I was thinking recently how I genuinely like him as an actor. He picks a lot of intelligent roles, and, good guy or bad, he adds a lot to the depth of the story. I'm happy to hear that in a show with wall to wall icky relationships, he turned that idea down.
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geek_of_natureMar 29, 2026
+8
And a great guy in general too. He's gone very hard in his support for Gaza over the last couple of years.
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JSmellerMMar 28, 2026
+42
I get why he had that mindset. Jorah was clearly in love with Daenerys and that was a bit uncomfortable for me. I think he didn't want to be seen like that.
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TeddysBigStickMar 28, 2026
+50
> bit uncomfortable
It was supposed to be. One of the central aspects of her character in the books is that she is uneducated and barely more than a child and being manipulated by a series of pretty much all evil grown men. The only not evil character around her is a ten year old. It is too contrast with Jon, who is influenced by good and honorable men. Just compare their Mormonts.
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__dontpanic__Mar 28, 2026
+56
He's been outspoken on Gaza too. The man has principles and isn't afraid to stick to them.
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coolhandjennieMar 28, 2026
+8
In all seriousness, I follow him on Twitter instead of the news.
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dkrtzyrrrMar 28, 2026
+25
he's right but i do think if he'd gotten one 'f****** hell' when she walked in the room or something the audience wouldn't have held it against him
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ImGonnaImagineSummitMar 28, 2026
+23
"Gods be good." *clutches bag of fingers*
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ihnatkoMar 28, 2026
+101
Bob Newhart frequently told the story about the time that The Bob Newhart Show's writers sent him the script for an episode where Emily announces she's pregnant. It was a whole new direction for the show. They were eager to find out what he thought about the script for the big moment.
"It's a great script," he said. "Who are you thinking of hiring to play Bob?" And that was the end of it.
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SurullianMar 28, 2026
+25
Now *that's* how you veto a stupid story idea.
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jaimoneeMar 29, 2026
+21
Kevin Smith tells a similar story about Bruce Willis and Live Free or Die Hard:
Willis, a producer on the film, had Smith rewrite a scene he was in to remove some of the exposition. The studio wanted to discuss their objections to the rewrite. “I was there when he made that call,” says Smith. “He was talking to some higher-up muckity-muck at the studio. He kept saying, ‘Uh-huh, uh-huh.’ And then he said, ‘Let me ask you this: Who is your second choice to play John McClane? Thought so.’ And then he hung up. It was just as cool as that.”
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msallinMar 28, 2026
+6
I don’t get it. Why would that be so objectionable?
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ihnatkoMar 28, 2026
+14
Bob was firm about his choice to keep the focus of the show on adults, and adult relationships.
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Flurb4Mar 29, 2026
+6
Yep. Newhart himself was married with four kids, but that wasn’t the character or the show he was making.
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The-YeahNah-GuyMar 28, 2026
+406
Similarly I believe there was going to be a "Jim cheats on Pam" storyline in the latter seasons of The Office John refused to do.
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Small_Income4286Mar 28, 2026
+200
That would have been such a terrible idea, Jim cheating would completely destroy his character. The writers really dodged a bullet there because Jim's whole thing was being the good guy who actually respected Pam, unlike Roy. Plus by that point in show Jim and Pam were already the heart of it all, making Jim cheat would be like betraying everything fans loved about him
Good on John for standing his ground on that one
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squeak37Mar 28, 2026
+50
I don't think the plan was for him to cheat, it was more for him to be tempted. Basically the Cathy storyline was going to venture far closer to him cheating, but he wouldn't at the end of the day
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KevlarGorillaMar 28, 2026
+21
The Cathy storyline works well, with her being persistently rebuffed, and both Pam's and Stanley's commentary are pretty funny.
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blitzbomMar 28, 2026
+10
I would've stopped watching. The show was already on a downward slope at that point but I still tuned in every Thursday.
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AporiaParadoxMar 28, 2026
+121
Some writers don't seem to realize that if a character that is supposed to be likeable cheats on an also likeable partner, audiences won't see them as likeable anymore.
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MasterOfManyWorldsMar 28, 2026
+71
What if they're on a break?
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AporiaParadoxMar 28, 2026
+84
Then the characters and the audience will keep arguing if it counts as cheating forever.
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moktiMar 28, 2026
+38
Eighteen pages... FRONT AND BACK!
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agentdomMar 28, 2026
+26
The extra layer to this is that Ross tries to call and patch things up and Mark answers the phone.
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Complete_EntryMar 29, 2026
+3
No such thing as a break. If you're going to break up, do it cleanly, and for good.
Yeah, that would have fucked up the friend dynamic, but Ross would have done that anyway.
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AlmightyCuddleBunsMar 28, 2026
+10
People saw Ross as likable?
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DigessMar 28, 2026
+19
I still do, and I will stand by that! Rachel wasn’t as “perfect” as people make her out to be. Look at how she acted during all of Ross relationships bar mona.
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xlxcxMar 28, 2026
+5
I agree. I also firmly stand on the hill "Phoebe was the worst friend"
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haysoos2Mar 28, 2026
+15
I think this might be more telling about the writer's own views on fidelity.
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monty_kurnsMar 28, 2026
+15
There’s also cases of networks sending notes down to the production with ideas to “shake things up”. A lot of time those notes go right in the trash but when they get known by the public they’re confused for actual plot lines the writers were planning.
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Agent-Blasto-007Mar 28, 2026
+33
No there wasn't
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/office-never-planned-jim-pam-192449259.html
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agoodtowelMar 28, 2026
+8
An affair is one of the most lazy writing tropes and they start to play into it multiple times throughout the show. Even that article says that they started toeing the line of an affair, but even the implication of impropriety was enough for them to object. It never states the writers weren't heading there eventually just that it hadn't been written yet. There are multiple times where they pushed the boundaries, Jim and Cathy, Pam and Brian - there was also a deleted scene with Jordan admitting a crush on Jim and Jordan was never seen on the show again with no given explanation for her disappearance. So they definitely did go in that direction multiple times, but the actors were very adamant that they wouldn't let it happen.
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Gailybird83Mar 29, 2026
+3
Thank you for sharing this! Glad to know the writers never planned for that.
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Bobby_Newport_Mar 28, 2026
+80
Kevin Williamson created Dawson's Creek with the intention that Dawson and Joey would end up together in the end, and Kevin came back to write the show's finale when the show ended. He wrote the first draft of the script with his initial intention of Dawson and Joey getting together, but Katie Holmes and Joshua Jackson campaigned to him for Joey to end up with Pacey instead. Kevin listened to Katie and Josh's input and realized his script didn't feel right, so he changed the end of his show to have Joey and Pacey end up together and Dawson got to meet his idol Steven Spielberg instead.
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JSmellerMMar 28, 2026
+38
I absolutely love the change because throughout the whole series Dawson never really was in love with Joey. He was more in love with the idea of being with Joey. It would've contradicted the whole plot.
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Bobby_Newport_Mar 28, 2026
+14
I was in high school and college when Dawson's Creek was airing, and I was a huge Pacey/Joey fan, so I loved the change too. The chemistry was always so much better between Pacey and Joey, and the whole build-up to their relationship during Season 3 was wonderful. I really respect Kevin Williamson for seeing that the show had changed and that the ending needed to be Pacey and Joey together for the show to make sense.
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ManifestDestinysChldMar 28, 2026
+11
Joshua Jackson impressed the hell out of me as an actor as he developed after Dawson's Creek.
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JSmellerMMar 29, 2026
+6
I loved him in Fringe
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isaidwhatisaidokMar 28, 2026
+25
That’s so crazy because at that point Joey and Pacey was the far more popular pairing. In fact I’m not even sure Dawson and Joey had many fans at all! Lol
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usernameinmailMar 28, 2026
+23
Sounds like HIMYM and the creators not letting go of a particular ending
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littlemonsterloveMar 28, 2026
+13
Friends for all its faults, at least saw the characters of Monica and Joey had grown to the point it made no sense for them to be together. They switched to Monica and Chandler instead.
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GOA_AMD65Mar 28, 2026
+7
Monica and chandler wont supposed to last but the fan support was so high that they kept them together.
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ScheduleTurbulent577Mar 28, 2026
+4
They're my favourite couple of all time. I'm over the moon that these two are working together again!
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Lyceus_Mar 28, 2026
+64
Katee Sackhoff influenced the decision of who was Starbuck's ultimate love in Battlestar Galactica.
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Ash_KillemMar 28, 2026
+22
Not sure if that’s for better or worse.
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Hefty_Divide9772Mar 28, 2026
+7
Wait, did it turn out to be Anders? It’s been so long since I watched it I don’t remember.
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Lyceus_Mar 28, 2026
+26
Starbuck >!doesn't have a happy relationship ending, but she says goodbye to her husband Anders in a loving way. At the time, Michael Trucco had had a terrible motorbike accident and was still recovering, so he couldn't do a lot in the show. But Katee Sackhoff definitely influenced that Starbuck didn't end up with Apollo.!<
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Maverick916Mar 28, 2026
+64
*Kira sleeping in her quarters*
*Gul Dukat calls her in the middle of the night*
"I fucked your mom"
*Dukat hangs up*
This legitimately happened lol
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unbelizeable1Mar 28, 2026
+34
Youre missing a crucial detail here. It was her dead mom's birthday lol
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007meowMar 28, 2026
+6
And then she used time travel to see it for herself.
And then they weirdly didn’t use time travel to do things like stop the war
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ElectricPeterTorkMar 29, 2026
+3
I like thinking Dukat did that to everyone.
Middle of the night, Dukat calls, tells a random crewmember he fucked their mom.
Miles shows up in Ops looking a little tired one morning, he says "Fooking Dukat kept us up all night. First he calls to tell me he fucked me ma. Then Keiko. Then Molly. By the time he was calling Yoshi to tell him he fucked his mom, he was using hand puppets to try to get the baby to understand. And Keiko was standing right there! We really need to get that Spoonhead f***."
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Comrade_FalconMar 28, 2026
+47
In Leon, Jean Reno thankfully refused to play Leon as a pedophile the way pedophilic director Luc Besson intended and instead maintained a more socially awkward caretaker role for Matilda (a child)
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SpiffShientzMar 28, 2026
+40
Shout out to Jean Reno for also getting a group together to make sure the teenage Natalie Portman was never alone with Besson and always had a trusted adult with her
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quangtranMar 28, 2026
+87
For season 3 of Heroes, the actors asked for script changes to be done on the day of filming because they realized that the scene between their characters (I believe it was Pater and Matt) just didn't make sense due to their interaction in their previous episode.
For Lost, Evangeline Lily (Kate) absolutely hated the love triangle scenes in the episode Catch 22. That's the episode where Kate get jealous of Jack seeing Juliet, so she runs off to sleep with Sawyer. Evangeline knew that she couldn't get any script changes, so she tried to bargain with the show's editors to have her scenes feel less shitty.
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NessidyMar 28, 2026
+102
She also joined The Hobbit cast on the condition she wouldn't be involved in any love triangle, and the producers changed their minds later 💀
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griffinismsMar 28, 2026
+24
holy f*** I forgot that was her (and all the romance bs in the hobbit movies)
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JoeHatesFanFictionMar 28, 2026
+16
Really? That really sucks, especially since that subplot is one of the worst parts of the movie.
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freeloadrMar 28, 2026
+9
Worst part of the hobbit
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ToidalMar 28, 2026
+21
Why does it hurt so much?
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optiplex9000Mar 28, 2026
+20
Because it was never in the books
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Marcos1598Mar 28, 2026
+8
She accepted on that condition, they didn't put any durning the shooting and when she was called for reshoots they added the love triangle there
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Underwater_KarmaMar 28, 2026
+150
Days of Our Lives actor Joey Tribbiani once boasted that he wrote most of the lines for his character Dr. Drake Ramoray.
The writers responded by having him fall down an elevator shaft. Ironically, Ramoray's injuries were so severe, the only doctor who could have saved him was him.
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ManifestDestinysChldMar 28, 2026
+24
Hahaha, I opened this thread and immediately hit CTRL-F, "drake" - and I had forgotten about that last part, lolllll
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AfraidoftheLarkMar 28, 2026
+43
My favorite example of the opposite is when Jonathan Banks wanted Mike to use the grammatically correct “whom” in a line of dialogue in the season 4 episode “Bug.” The writer Thomas Schnauz refused. Banks remembered this and playfully kvetched about it on a podcast.
I’ve always suspected Schnauz refused because Walt uses a very dramatic “whom” later in that same episode, and Schnauz didn’t want to compromise its impact on some subliminal level by having the word show up earlier.
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whyisthelimit20charaMar 28, 2026
+52
There's an episode of community where Jonathan Banks' character Professor Hickey corrects Jeff's who to whom. And now I know why.
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MaeBelleLienMar 28, 2026
+14
Bravo Harmon
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Zam548Mar 28, 2026
+38
In the incursion episode in season one of the Blacklist the Dembe was originally going to be killed. James Spader convinced the showrunners to keep him alive. On top of that he wrote the monologue that Reddington gives; “I won’t let them get the best of me, and they certainly won’t get the last of me”
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Spiritual_Sleep162Mar 28, 2026
+20
How much of Reds dialouge did Spader write. The whole reason to watch the show was Spader chewing scenary.
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Malnurtured_SnayMar 28, 2026
+37
While filming Star Trek VI, Nichelle Nichols refused a couple of lines, including "look who is coming to dinner." The line was given to Walter Koenig instead.
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directorguyMar 28, 2026
+22
So f****** tone deaf to have her say that. It’s such a crazy insult
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TimeForAWitnessMar 28, 2026
+31
IIRC, she also objected to the idea that the crew of the Enterprise would need a translation book to interpret the Klingon language, as, being the ship's communications director, she should know Klingon fluently.
Reasonable request, but the director, Nicholas Meyer, rejected her objection.
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decidedlyindecisiveMar 28, 2026
+18
Honestly I think her objections influenced subsequent depictions of Uhura because after TOS she knows a lot of languages.
Nichelle was an amazing person. I have deep respect for her.
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directorguyMar 28, 2026
+9
It screwed up the dumb joke and the dumb visual of fumbling with books.
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AporiaParadoxMar 28, 2026
+15
And that scene makes even less sense now that SNW establishes that Uhura knows dozens of languages and casually learns new ones all the time.
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KTR1988Mar 28, 2026
+9
Even the Kelvin timeline films acknowledge and make use of her multilingual background.
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coffee_cake_xMar 28, 2026
+4
“Shatner felt that though dramatic, the script made Kirk look too prejudiced.”
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-drunkmoses-Mar 28, 2026
+214
Probably Steve Harrington's actor turning him from a potentially jerk boyfriend into a fan favorite.
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confusing_roundaboutMar 28, 2026
+143
They were just so impressed with his charisma and general likeability that they rewrote it. Iirc he was meant to die in the season 1 finale but I'm so glad he didn't.
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dkrtzyrrrMar 28, 2026
+90
similar thing happened w/ chris pratt on parks and recreation. initially more of just a jerk boyfriend, the roy to april and mark’s pam and jim, they realized what they had, pivoted, and he lasted to the end of the show.
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MadScientistNinjaMar 28, 2026
+12
Ann and Mark? But yeah they definitely got rid of the right character ultimately there with Mark.
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dkrtzyrrrMar 28, 2026
+14
lol yeah, ann. idk how i forgot ann, the cunning, pliable, chestnut-haired sunfish. april would love being confused w/ her.
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agoodtowelMar 28, 2026
+10
Mark, played by Paul Schneider, was the one who wanted to leave. He didn't like the format. Paul later said he regretted it.
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Underwater_KarmaMar 28, 2026
+25
I loved his character. It's a shame we don't see much from Pratt any more...
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dkrtzyrrrMar 28, 2026
+30
yeah, when the first guardians of the galaxy hit if you'd told me i was going to dread his presence in a movie like he was jared leto i'd never have believed you.
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Underwater_KarmaMar 28, 2026
+15
I just watched "Mercy" yesterday, and it's become clear that Pratt is just doing anything they'll pay him to do.
I don't even know how this movie got greenlit, it's the most blatant "Minority Report" ripoff i could ever imagine
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spooteeespootheadMar 28, 2026
+50
Joe Keery's the best. Almost everyone he's worked with absolutely loves him lol
He's also a very talented musician (plays under the stage name Djo), and he's actually opening for some Tame Impala shows this year!
Edit to add: I think Maya Hawke also convinced the Duffers that Robin should be gay. IIRC she really was supposed to be a new love interest for Steve, and they wound up pivoting to BFFs.
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JBones26Mar 28, 2026
+21
You are correct. Iirc the first time they filmed the scene where Robin tells Steve, Steve's reaction is real because he didn't know they were doing it and that's the shot they used
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chili01Mar 28, 2026
+18
Mom Steve Season 2 is Peak
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blitzbomMar 28, 2026
+4
He was going to SA Nancy and then get killed by a Demo.
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emailunavailableMar 28, 2026
+69
African-American Eriq LaSalle played Peter Benton on ER, and his character entered a romantic relationship with white Elizabeth Corday, played by Alex Kingston, in season 4. He felt that it would not be logical for his character to date a white woman, and made his opinion known in the writers' room. So, Benton and Corday had an uneventful and undramaric relationship in season 5, followed by an undramatic break-up.
Also, Gloria Reuben, playing HIV-positive Jeanie Boulet, decided on how the virus affected her character. The writers may have planned for it to be all melodramatic, but she wanted to make sure that the viewers know HIV is not the end of the world for people, and her character had an optimistic run having to live with HIV, including finding a husband and adopting a child.
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YALL_IGNANTMar 28, 2026
+67
I liked Benton and Corday as a couple, but I believe LaSalle at that time was very conscious of representation and what it meant for him to portray a highly-successful black man on TV, and how having Benton also in a fully-realized and complex relationship with another black person was better and more needed representation. LaSalle won numerous NAACP image awards, it was a big thing for him.
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TalynRahlMar 29, 2026
+10
Indeed. IIRC, it wasn’t that he didn’t want to date a white woman. He just felt it might feel a bit off if after (unsuccessfully) dating a number of black characters, Benton finally found love and settled down… with a white woman.
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VioralaramaMar 28, 2026
+30
Iirc, and I might not, LaSalle also objected to another thing; he hooked up with Lisa Marie Carson at the family bbq and they became friends with benefits, then she got pregnant. LaSalle was supposed to have s lot of angst over it and they did show some of that, but he was also supposed to completely ditch LMC and the baby. LaSalle said nope to being a deadbeat dad because of the stereotype. So he co-parented instead, without getting together with LMC.
Ming Na Wen also dictated some of her storylines, but I can't remember all of it. But her name was changed from an Anglo one to a Chinese one. I think she didn't like being the meek child to pressuring parents because it was a stereotype (this was long before Tiger Mom though) so she also got a personality lift.
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Emma172Mar 28, 2026
+15
Came here to give this example as I'm currently watching ER for the first time. I do understand where LaSalle was coming from but I did really like Benton and Corday together
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blueconlanMar 28, 2026
+58
Norman Reedus stopped a drug abuse storyline for his character in season 2 of the walking dead.
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geek_of_natureMar 29, 2026
+5
Really? I'd never heard of that one before. I'm assuming it was going to be from Merles bag of drugs he still had on him. That showed up when they needed medicine for when T-dog got that nasty cut, but then never showed up again. That would make sense why it just disappeared like that.
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iamacannibalMar 28, 2026
+45
Zack Gilford (who plays the character Matt Saracen) told the writers of Friday Night Lights that the story they wrote in for the season 1 finale where Tyra and Lyla murder a man was stupid and didn’t fit the show.
It was filmed but was not included in the show.
Instead they rewrote it to make it Landry and Tyra and did it for season 2.
Everyone thought it was stupid because it was.
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monty_kurnsMar 28, 2026
+10
I loved that show so much more than I was expecting to, but my god that plotline in season two was dumb!
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MaeBelleLienMar 28, 2026
+7
It will probably always win in the "worst plotline in the best show" competition.
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bros402Mar 28, 2026
+8
For All Mankind with the season 2 plot of >!Karen cheats on Ed with Danny!< is a strong competitor.
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KMerrellsMar 28, 2026
+18
Watching DS9's "What We Left Behind" doc seems to imply that Nana Visitor also didn't want to have anything to do with Marc Alaimo, who was hot for the actress.
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Malnurtured_SnayMar 28, 2026
+16
She certainly felt that Kira would never be in a romantic anything with Dukat, and it's been a while since I've seen the documentary, but Alaimo talking about Visitor certainly raised some red flags...
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TalentagentfriendMar 28, 2026
+19
A lot of the time there is a contract clause where the actor has the power to call for a rewrite if they don’t think it will fit the character. But then on a lot of comedy shows, like the Office, there are open-ended scripts that call for improvisation. Famous comedy actors tend to get a lot of leeway when it comes to rewriting because of their improv skills. Big actors that are experienced tend to get the same respect depending on the production and how much ass they’ve kissed.
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click2InstallMar 28, 2026
+35
The Professional with Jean Reno and Natalie Portman (child).
If you eatch the movie, you'd know Natalie's character likes/is in love with Jean (and adult). She refers to him as her lover, and there are a few other scenes that hint at her attraction.
If I remeber correctly, the original script (per the director) want the two of the to be in a full blown relationship, from the start.
Jean (lead actor) didn't like that, and suggested changes be made (thankfully). There is one scene where the two are joking with each other and she is playing dress up. She plays dress up as Marolyn Monroe (dress/lipstick and all). The dress/dance scene i always felt a little uncomfortable with. Makes me think what the film could have been if no changes were made.
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riegspsych325Mar 28, 2026
+26
Leon himseof was basically an author insert for Luc Besson, he groomed his second wife when she was 15 then they married and had a kid one year later. If he were able to, Besson would have pushed this film into grosser territory
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laStrangiatoMar 28, 2026
+21
The director/writer met a girl when she was 12 and started dating her when she was 15 (possibly even earlier), married her and she had his child at the age of 16. The movie was apparently based this relationship.
He has also been accused of r*** and the case later dropped but there have been several other credible accusations that were never prosecuted.
Dudes a creep.
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SpiffShientzMar 28, 2026
+15
Jean Reno is a straight-up hero, he got a group together to make sure Natalie always had an adult with her and was never alone with Besson
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dkrtzyrrrMar 28, 2026
+15
yeah luc besson is a creep. he modeled that relationship somewhat on his relationship w/ maiwenn, who he started an affair w/ when she was 15 and he was 32. they divorced after he left her for a 19 year old milla jovovich. by then maiwenn was in her twenties, and since besson was only in his forties i guess he decided it really didn't make sense for him to be w/ a woman so old.
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t4booMar 28, 2026
+14
Just talking about DS9, the Rootbeer scene was a product of Garak and Quark’s actors I think. It’s not a big scene but they have some really interesting interviews out there where they talk about, as actors, approaching the writing team in order to make changes in the script
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unbelizeable1Mar 28, 2026
+8
Iirc the scene was added to pad out epidode length. Then it was on the cutting room floor more than a few times but they fought to keep it.
Its up there with favorite scenes in the show for me.
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somms999Mar 28, 2026
+5
Just to clarify, the *tone* was a product of Armin Shimerman (Quark) and Andrew Robinson (Garak), not the dialogue. The director wanted the scene to be overtly comedic, but Shimerman and Robinson objected and wanted to play it straight but laden with subtext. Thankfully the showrunner agreed with the actors.
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Shoot_from_the_QuipMar 28, 2026
+14
The O.C.
Adam Brody was friends with the showrunner/creator, so his character went from nerdy guy to cool guy (which, in my opinion, killed the dynamic and made it kind of boring in later seasons).
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ivylassMar 28, 2026
+30
Also with DS9, Avery Brooks didn't want to be Another Black Man Who Runs Off From His Family, so he had them throw in the line about how he'll be back "yesterday."
Starfleet Academy notwithstanding, >!my head canon is he did come back a few weeks later and is living quietly in Kendra Valley with Kasidy and the baby, and only Jake and Kira know.!<
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aeriksonMar 29, 2026
+7
That's kind of my head canon as well. Considering how he becomes a literal demigod to an entire planet, it tracks that he would want to keep Kasidy and his child safe and separated from the baggage he brings as a religious icon AND war hero.
I still loved the Starfleet Academy episode and am very happy there was no definitive "this is what happened" explanation for the Siskos'
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TallEnoughJonesMar 28, 2026
+107
Kirk Cameron getting Julie McCullough fired after she posed naked, because as an extreme hypocrite it's more important to use his religion as an excuse to attack others than to treat other people the way he wants to be treated.
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ZealousWolf1994Mar 28, 2026
+22
She actually posed before she joined the show, it was not a surprise to anyone. But Cameron became evangelical and also just wanted them to cast his real life girlfriend instead as his love interest, got McCullough fired.
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res30stupidMar 28, 2026
+15
Yeah, his Evangelism fucked over the show a couple of times.
The "Vacation in Europe" trilogy of episodes was supposed to be product placement for actual vacationing in Europe to the point they were going to film on-location in different countries, basically having *all* the costs for those episodes being covered by the tourism boards of those countries... and Cameron refused to even get on the plane because it would mean he'd have to miss church, so they just shot them on an island off the coast of California at great cost.
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cardinalkgbMar 28, 2026
+10
Cameron and his sister are pieces of shit.
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spinereader81Mar 29, 2026
+7
I swear there's a line in the Bible about not needing a building in order to worship. But of course Kirk has always been a performative Christian.
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TallEnoughJonesMar 28, 2026
+3
I thought he didn't get together with his now wife until after she started on the show
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ZealousWolf1994Mar 28, 2026
+4
Chelsea Noble joined the show after McCollough was fired, but she and Cameron began dating after he met her on the set of Full House. Cameron was visiting his sister, Candace Cameron. There's actually quite the age difference when he started dating Noble, she was 25 and he was 19.
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bguzewiczMar 28, 2026
+12
Supposedly Joe Gannascoli pushed the writers of The Sopranos to do Vito’s gay storyline.
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WelcomeWillhoMar 28, 2026
+6
Whatever happened there
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Malnurtured_SnayMar 28, 2026
+5
Things didn't work out well for Vito
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LT_DANS_ICECREAMMar 28, 2026
+12
He didnt directly request it, but Aaron Paul was so good as Jessie Pinkman in S1 of Breaking Bad that they abandoned their plan to kill him off at the end of the season ans kept him on as a main character to the end of the show. I cant imagine the show without him now.
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midnightmare79Mar 28, 2026
+26
Originally Uncle Fester, played by Christopher Lloyd, in the Addams Family movie was never intended to be the REAL Uncle Fester.
Christina Ricci convinced the director and producers of Addams Family movie that Christopher Lloyd's character HAD to be the real Uncle Fester, and that it made no sense for him to be an imposter all along who just pretends to be Fester in the end.
Apparently the sight of Ricci holding her own and explaining to a group adults in charge of the film for 15-30 minutes that their planned ending didnt work was amazingly impressive. So much so they changed thenscript and made Fester into the real character at the end.
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coffee_cake_xMar 28, 2026
+12
Maya Hawke advocated for her character in Stranger Things to be gay, when Robin was originally intended as a love interest for Steve. It made both of their characters better, and it provided a foundation for Will’s character arc in the final season.
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Ethos_LogosMar 28, 2026
+45
Cavill convinced Hissrich to pull the joke they wrote for the Witcher to say after Roach, his horse, was killed.
Geralt’s character would *never* make such a crass joke at the passing of his loyal steed.
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DigessMar 28, 2026
+18
If only he had veto power over anything they wrote. Woulda been much better, as he actually likes the source material, and the writers/showrunner do not
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GentlewomenNeverTellMar 29, 2026
+4
I stopped watching the show when Roach died because it was not treated with any gravity at all. The 5 seconds of mourning and then ok on to the next plot point was not enough, but at least Cavill fought for those 5 seconds of mourning.
Why does Hollywood keep hiring writers who have such contempt for the material? Looking at you, HOD.
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oldscotchMar 28, 2026
+9
I remember something about Jenna Ortega trying to explain to people that Wednesday Adams would never do a dance scene.
Also Jim Carrey had to stand firm that there was no chance his character was getting on that bus at the end of Dumb & Dumber.
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jbkitesMar 28, 2026
+8
I'm also interested to know how close these scenarios were to actually happening. Like, was the script written and the actor said no, and thus it was rewritten?
Or was it more like, a general discussion with producers / writers / cast about how a season could roll out, and the actor suggested something different?
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MrCanoeMar 28, 2026
+8
In some cases, the script had been fully written out and an actor refused to say some lines they felt were offensive and they had to rewrite . Dylan Sprouse on the Suite Life of Zack and Cody kept skipping and ignoring lines that were fat jokes about his characters mother. The actress was pregnant and the writers wanted him to joke about her being fat. He refused.
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MordbackMar 28, 2026
+47
Jesse Pinkman was supposed to die in season one of Breaking Bad.
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Daddy_KromkampMar 28, 2026
+32
Anne Hathaway was supposed to die in the first ep of ER
Edit: Carol - tired brain
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Cutter9792Mar 28, 2026
+35
Carol
Not Anne
Anne Hathaway was Shakespeare's wife
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FunmachineMar 28, 2026
+24
She looks good for being 450 years old
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TheUmbrellaMan1Mar 28, 2026
+8
Michael Crichton wrote the screenplay for this and he sat on it for like a decade, and after Jurassic Park hoped Spielberg would make a movie out of it. Spielberg didn't and the screenplay became the pilot episode for ER.
Anyway, it was his decision to kill off Carol Hathaway. And for all the years he kept the script, even when he was actively developing it for tv, he never bothered to map out the characters' fate. He left all that to the showrunner. Crichton really wasn't into sequels (The Lost World was the only sequel he ever wrote and he hated the experience) and the ER pilot was the only script he wrote for the show. It was the showrunner and the producer' call to save Carol.
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RNG_HatesMeMar 28, 2026
+14
This so confused me!!! I was racking my brains trying to remember Anne Hathaway on ER!
\*Akshually\* it apparently was Carol Hathaway (played by Julianna Margulies) who was supposed to die by suicide!
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JrobmnMar 28, 2026
+6
I don’t think he directly said anything, but he was so good they realized that they should keep him around!
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AporiaParadoxMar 28, 2026
+24
I'm sure Aaron Paul was happy to keep his job, but I doubt his input had anything to do with that.
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C-tappMar 28, 2026
+15
Hehad zero input. The writers strike that killed Heroes managed to save Jessie. By the time they came back to film, the fans had already spoken on how they felt about him.
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geek_of_natureMar 28, 2026
+8
He was already saved before the writers strike. Vince Gilligan said that while hed originally planned to kill off Jesse, hed been so blown away by Aaron Paul when they were making the pilot. So when they got their full series order, they quickly decided that they would be keeping Jesse around. Vince told Aaron when they were making episode 3, intending it as a compliment, but unintentionally giving Aaron the idea that he was in danger of being killed off at any point.
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Certain-Singer-9625Mar 28, 2026
+5
Early on Lost in Space, Jonathan Harris convinced the producers to change his character of Dr. Smith from a murderous saboteur to a buffoonish troublemaker, and the rest was infamy.
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valandsendMar 28, 2026
+7
Back in the 1980s, Donna Mills went to the producer of Knots Landing and asked him to change a plot point in which her character was involved in the kidnapping of newborn twins. The writers originally had her setting up the crime, but Mills rightfully argued that viewers would never forgive her character for that. The plot was changed to her consultant arranging the kidnapping after hearing her complain about her husband fathering the twins with his ex. The consultant was then killed before he could tell her what he’d done.
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atticdoorMar 28, 2026
+6
That Chandler plotline would have essentially been a retread of the "photocopy girl" plotline with Ross and Rachel. Definitely the right thing to change it.
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baboolzMar 28, 2026
+12
Joey Tribianni and the elevator :D
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dballingMar 28, 2026
+5
Shrinking and Jessica Williams.
She explained that there was zero chance her character would ever be friends or even friendly with the person who killed her beat friend and would be furious at all the rest of the main cast for hanging out with him.
And so Brett Goldstein was written out of the show.
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Turbulent_Tale6497Mar 28, 2026
+16
Mike Farrell as BJ Hunnicut convinced the writers not to have him cheat on his wife. He felt he was a firm family man, and wouldn’t do that.
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temperedoliveMar 28, 2026
+10
But they did an episode where he did cheat on her. It's in season 5. Hawkeye convinces him not to confess to his wife, as well.
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blueconlanMar 28, 2026
+7
But he did cheat in the episode hanky pinky, with a nurse.
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Blackbirds_GardenMar 28, 2026
+4
And if I remember right at the time, the actress playing that nurse was married to somebody else in the show.
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tfurrowsMar 28, 2026
+5
As others have pointed out, BJ did cheat on Peg so I don’t think that’s true. He probably had some input into how it was handled.
You might be confusing it with another episode where the writers unknowingly reused an idea from an early-season episode in which Hawkeye wants to operate on a healthy colonel in order to take him out of action. Initially the writers had BJ going along with the plot, but Mike Farrell thought that was out of character for Hunnicutt. There was a discussion about it and in the end they got a much stronger story out of it by having BJ oppose Hawkeye.
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sewing215Mar 28, 2026
+11
It makes you wonder why these writers try to insert these cheating story arcs.
Is it just lazy writing?
Or are they trying to rationalize their own cheating in their personal lives. If a beloved character can be redeemed, why not them?
Anyways, that's my pondering thought for the day, enjoy!
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JSmellerMMar 28, 2026
+12
It's for the sake of drama. It's just one of the easiest ways to produce it.
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SurullianMar 28, 2026
+3
Cheating in a relationship is low hanging fruit when you're trying to progress characters and their interactions. The longer a show runs, the more likely that cheating will be a major character arc at some point.
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BeefPoetMar 28, 2026
+4
Arnie had the producers drastically changed the story for Total Recall. It was never meant to set on Mars.
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LegoMuppetMar 28, 2026
+5
On My Family, Robert Lindsay and Zoe Wannamaker refused to film one episode that they considered too poor and because theu were the stars, it got scrapped
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Tradman86Mar 28, 2026
+4
Gigi Edgley was supposed to play a one-off character on Farscape, but she had such great chemistry with the rest of the cast that they rewrote her death at the end of the episode to just a wound and she became main cast just a few episodes later.
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res30stupidMar 28, 2026
+3
When the show *Inspector Morse*, an adaptation of a series of books, was in early production the producers had eyes set on John Thaw to play the titular character. Thaw, due to having previously worked on *The Sweeney*, didn't want to be a copper on TV again but agreed... on the condition that the character trait of Morse being a *massive* pervert be removed from the TV adaptation.
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GentlewomenNeverTellMar 29, 2026
+4
I will forever love Nana Visitor for not letting Kira/Dukat become a thing. I kind of think actors would be nice to have in the writer's room every now and again because they think about their character more than the writers really have time to.
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isaidwhatisaidokMar 28, 2026
+9
Neal McDonough has a stipulation in his contracts that he won’t kiss or have sexual scenes with actresses. Which is probably why he plays so many bad guys. Other than looking like the Aryan dream come true.
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jayne-eerieMar 28, 2026
+6
Mahershalala Ali also won’t do sex/intimate scenes for religious reasons, but he’s managed to find roles where it doesn’t matter.
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CharlieWormhatMar 29, 2026
+3
I see this a lot about him. But wonder why he was ok with his character raping and beating teenaged hustlers on Justified
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CunariMar 28, 2026
+7
The unrequited Lennier/Delenn storyline was apparently Bill Mumy’s idea. The Ivanova Boom Shakalaka scene was due to a request by the actress to do more comedy
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JSmellerMMar 28, 2026
+3
I only know of the cases where actors were so good that they changed the writers' ideas. My prime examples are Chris Pratt in Parks and Rec who got promoted to main cast because he was funny af and Neill Flynn in Scrubs. He was supposed to be a one off character and also an imagination by JD but they also kept him because he was so good in his role.
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click2InstallMar 28, 2026
+3
Knowing now about the director, it all makes sense. What a prick
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res30stupidMar 28, 2026
+3
Not a TV show example but similar, but in the *Yakuza/Like A Dragon* series of games, the protagonists can participate in a karaoke minigame in most if not all of the series entries... except for one.
When the series went from action-brawler to a Japanese role-playing game with *Yakuza: Like A Dragon*^1 it naturally led to the inclusion of party members who can all sing in the Karaoke minigame, some even performing together... except for Joon-gi Han, who doesn't participate in the minigame at all in the first RPG entry (he does get some in the next game, *Infinite Wealth*).
This is because of his voice actor Yuichi Nakamura, who openly admitted that he didn't like singing and wasn't very good at it so he just asked to be left out of the minigame.
This is also reflected in gameplay. The game features a class/job system where the player can unlock roles for the party members. One of the most difficult jobs to unlock for Joon-gi is the Musician class.
Also, originally the gangster Goro Majima was supposed to be from Osaka and spoke in a Kansai accent... which Hidenari Ugaki couldn't fake for shit, his accent coming across as incredibly fake. So, they just changed it to Majima faking the accent and in certain scenes, he actually reverts back to his native accent. Given just how f****** *weird* Majima is, it fits the character perfectly.
And going back to the karaoke minigame, when Majima became playable, Ugaki also hated singing... so Majima just straight-up deliberately fucks up the songs for his own amusement.
1: Yes, the title's confusing. It's when the series began to switch from the original English title *Yakuza* back to its Japanese name *Like A Dragon*.
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buffer5108Mar 28, 2026
+3
And then there is the other side of the coin. Sam Waterson played D.A. Jack McCoy on Law and Order for nearly 30 years. I remember an interviewer asked him if he had any input in the writer’s room because his character was so passionate and believable. His answer was “absolutely not”. He said his job was showing up and performing the actions the writers had already set in stone. A real pro’s pro.
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TalynRahlMar 29, 2026
+3
In Farscape, Scorpius was meant to be a one and done villain, his fate to die on his base when the crew blew it up.
But the dude was just *too damned good*. So they fudged the details, let him survive, and one of the greatest villains in Sci Fi history was born.
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davasaurMar 29, 2026
+3
Harvey!
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lemon900098Mar 29, 2026
+3
Amy Pohler got her character in Parks and Rec changed after season 1. She was a Michael Scott clone in season 1, and thought if it stayed that way the show wouldnt last.
Chris Pratt also wasnt supposed to last past season 1. I dont think he had any input though; he was just too entertaining to fire.
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egnardsMar 28, 2026
+6
It's my understanding that when it comes to TV the actors have a lot more leeway in developing their characters and storylines, and that it's not at all uncommon for them to be involved in the process of saying things like "Yea um my character would literally never say that," or from a scene point of view "I don't think my character would ever realistically be put into that situation."
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Monk6980Mar 28, 2026
+8
It depends on the relationship the showrunner has with their actors. Some showrunners welcome the input, even early on—the cast members of This Is Us talk on their podcast talk about how receptive the writers were to their input, and how some of them would actively hang out in the writers’ room. Other showrunners maintain a strict dividing line between the writers and the actors for a variety of reasons. (It would slow down a very hectic schedule, some actors have ego problems, the showrunner has ego problems…)
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Im-A-Tomato-1744Mar 28, 2026
+4
Another factor is the status of the actor. If you've a huge star who is the biggest draw for the show, they're less likely turn them down if they kick up a big fuss.
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Rough-Key-6667Mar 28, 2026
+4
This reminds me of the final few seasons of Flash. The showrunner of the remaining seasons Eric Wallace was pretty egotistical, prideful & boasting about the fact he planned 3- 4 seasons (he didn't, he made things up as it went along). Many times Grant, Candice, Danielle & Cameron got scripts & kept saying how much it doesn't make sense to which Wallace's response was shut up he's the showrunner, even his writing staff said how much things just didn't make sense. The guy had such an ego that when Greg Berlanti took charge during Crossover events he basically gave interviews where he called those "miniscule compared to his grand story" he didn't say it directly to Greg because he would be fired but still that gives you a hint of his ego.
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dkrtzyrrrMar 28, 2026
+3
a couple of things happen - the actors gain more leverage and so can actually make demands and have it be more likely those demands are met than they are written out of the show. by this point, shows will often had some turnover in writing staff or have exhausted a lot of story ideas and so they resort to developments or storylines that are out of character, who by this point the actor may well understand more (and certainly understand viewer's perspective on that character) than any of the writers.
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caitipaige23Mar 28, 2026
+5
Daredevil Born Again season 1. Charlie Cox and Vincent D’onofrio told the writers that it was going to work. So they cut together what they could from the existing film and cobbled together a better story for DD:BA. You can really tell because the last (?) 2 episodes of Born again had a completely different feel. Both Cox and D’onofrio have been outspoken on what their characters would and would not do.
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gendrywaterzMar 28, 2026
+8
Melania - leaving out the entire Epstein call girl portion of her life.
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Aizen10Mar 28, 2026
+10
Ellen Page transitioning to Elliot Page made the writers of Umbrella Academy transition Vanya to Viktor.
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Not_SteveMar 28, 2026
+23
Elliot didn’t make them, he was willing to continue to play the part of Vanya. Blackman (the writer) offered the transition and together they worked on the story to create Viktor. Elliot had input, but was in the camp of “we don’t have to change a thing.”
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