Time is a flat circle - True Detective

Let’s make the car a place of silent reflection.

This place is the faded memory of a town. Yea he was on drugs like half the time

I agree. Nothing blew me away like that.

anytime I see true detective mentioned there's always someone saying this exact thing. I should probably watch it

Thought Chernobyl stuck it's landing better, though TD had higher peak. Band of brothers the best for me. Rome and Westworld first seasons are up there too.

Season 4 of The Wire is mine but damn if this isn’t so so great

Fargo S1 is incredibly strong.

Also the only intro title sequence I never skipped. I wanted to watch it every episode. It’s a work of art. Bought the blu ray and haven’t regretted it.

I wanted a more "cosmic horror" ending and less of a "mentally challenged weirdo" ending. I thought all the Carcosa and Yellow King stuff was going to lead to something truly weird.

Band of Brothers, but this is about close enough.

Absolutely agree. And now i feel its time for a rewatch. Cant wait until I get to episode 4 in particular.

Saw it years after it came out and think it’s one of those shows where it was everything I wanted it to be to every part of it

Just amazing. I need to go back and watch it

Yeah, it was incredible to watch the first time. I wish I could do that again

Westworld for me, maybe. 

Yep. This and band of brothers are the best television you can ever watch

Agree. I immediately restarted episode 1 once I finished the season

I absolutely loved the first season **Hannibal** but I will admit this was f****** great.

I still rewatch it, and it's just as good as the first time

The only problem is they shit the bed with the yellow king. It was just a random hillbilly

Yep. Season 1 of TD is my favorite thing I’ve ever seen on a screen. A masterpiece.

Does Chernobyl count as competition?

I have a hard time arguing with that. For me it would probably be Succession. But TD is incredible. You might check out Black Bird sometime. It’s another dark crime drama with a similar feel. And based on a true story.

I hoped this would be the top comment... And you did not disappoint.

It’s pretty great. I also enjoyed Mare of Easttown. Chernobyl. Mad Men Season 2. GOT Season 4 was absolutely must watch television. I think it’s almost impossible to be objective about the premise. There are so many shows that had one great season from beginning to end.

After Band of Brothers and Chernobyl

I wholeheartedly agree. I tell everyone the same.

I remember seeing the trailers at the movie theaters, I was surprised because I never recalled HBO doing that too often. And it fully lived up to the hype.

This, Mindhunter S1 and Luther S1 for me.

I tbink its tied with westworld personally, but I wont fight you

Alright Peggy Hill

That’s the scary part, he doesn’t feel like a performance, just a real person you shouldn’t meet.

He said in interviews that his personal and spiritual views do not align with that character.

The Kevin Spacey effet

the way he delivers it makes it weirdly compelling instead of just bleak

In philosophical terms, it’s called pessimism.

grammar at its worst :P

That must be exhausting.

Always been relevant

No one ever talks about Sharp Objects ever. And it's truly the closest thing I can think of to this season of TD. Amy Adams is exceptional, Patricia Clarkson is sublime and it's a whole other dark and twisted road to travel.

What’s sharp objects?

Literally just finished (re)watching Mindhunter last night. And TD season 1 is an all time favourite… never heard of Sharp Objects and I was trying to figure out what to watch next, thank you!

Mindhunter was so f****** good

Ah Mindhunter so good! the casting in that show is ridiculous that or the makeup guys. I had to keep telling myself they weren't the real killers

I want you to stop saying odd shit.

It’s like poetry or a Shakespearean monologue. Brilliant stuff.

As an atheist I really liked it. Especially upon rewatch. The air of something supernatural hangs over the whole ending confrontation, a touch of the divine, or demonic, hard to say. The implications of Carcosa and the King in Yellow being unquantifiable things that may exist makes the idea of a soul simply existing no longer entirely impossible, even in the mind of a guy like Rust. I wouldn't go so far as to call it optimistic as an ending but rather a salve on an extremely raw and broken person. A moment of hope that maybe his preconceptions of the universe are wrong in a moment that he experienced and can't explain.

I think a lot of people misunderstand what actually happened in that scene. It's not a sudden pivot. The entire season shows Rust loudly putting on a show of nihilism while his actions repeatedly say otherwise. A true nihilist would drop the case and let it go. But Rust keeps digging into it because, deep down, he doesn't *want* the void to be the only answer. >!He and the Tuttle cult are actually walking the same path before they cosmically diverge; the Tuttles also don't want to believe in the void but god wouldn't answer their prayers, so they began to desecrate his works if just to invoke his anger and prove the void an illusion. They'd rather burn in hell if just to know that god, or any god at all, was real. Rust, because he's still holding on to hope, just wants to be proven wrong and to find even a reflection of light in that same void.!< >!The ending is is true cosmic irony. Rust delivers the Tuttles/Errol what they sought the entire time - absolution from their lost cause, even in the form of a bullet. Perhaps they saw Rust as a messenger of god finally come to answer them. And Rust proves to himself that the void isn't all-consuming after all, that light exists because he himself manifested it.!<

The ending was the worst part of the first season, but that’s not saying much because literally everything else is an A+.  The optimistic tone just didn’t feel quite right to me. That said, ending something like that isn’t easy and it certainly didn’t take away from the overall show for me.

Heavy spoilers for the show ahead https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/celebrity-justice/true-detective-legal-truths-did-a-real-case-inspire-the-show/ It’s based on an entirely different Epstein like situation but instead of a likely honeypot operation it’s satanism related Part of the point of Rust Cohle story is that he realizes this story has happened numerous times, and there’s no way to beat an evil like this permanently and all his decades of hard work and attention only resulted in a low level grunt getting in trouble IRL there are other Epstein islands, zorro ranches etc owned by other billionaires hidden in the hill sides. Time is flat circle and no matter what you do, that girl and that boy are going to be in that room somewhere.

It's Nietzsche's concept of eternal recurrence. It's a Nihilistic philosophic thought experiment.

I think it's illustrative of a single path. If you have a globe, and put a rubber band around it, the rubber band is a circle. You can put multiple rubber bands around the same sphere and each individual one would be a circle, but they would all have different paths around the globe. I think the point of calling it a flat circle is to reiterate that there is only a single pathway through time that cannot be changed. It could also just be redundant.

You're applying realism to art. It's more productive to ask, "Why did they write it that way?" Maybe it's natural dialogue. We all speak in redundancies, sometimes. It sells Rustin's speech as a stream of conscience, rather than a rehearsed monologue. Or 'flat' could be a double entendre. Synonyms include dull, shallow or depressed. Perhaps Rustin is implying the futility of our repetitive lives. Or it's even simpler than that. 'Time is a circle' doesn't carry nearly the same impact. That adjective, useless as it may seem, is what turns a throwaway line into something memorable and iconic.

It means it always loops around instead of moving forward, like a line. There's no deviation or alternate paths, like a sphere. It's a flat circle.

Time is round. That’s why clocks are a circle.

Thank you, I always bring this up when this is posted. All circles are flat. It's a dumb line when you start thinking about, but it's the rule of cool, man.

What do you mean? Seems like a normal way to smoke. Inhale afterwards to draw the smoke in to your lungs?

Yeah I rewatched it recently and literally every character is well acted and at least somewhat memorable in their own way.