Transgender women athletes banned from Olympics by new IOC policy on female eligibility

He decided to prioritize his sports career and never took hormones.

From my understanding they were waiting till after competing to start

How about they get equality first. Then we can talk about whether or not "poking fun" at them is okay. Not the other way around.

"I know I'm going to get downvoted to hell but uhhhhh transwomen no sportacus" *Reliably never downvoted to hell, several hundred upvoted actually*

The problem isn't with comparing cis men with trans women, it's with comparing trans women with cis women. It's unfair to cis women, full stop. Reduced athletic performance is only significant if it fully negates the natural athletic advantage of being born male which is effectively impossible.

Perhaps not every individual comment needs to state "biological male versus biological female." People do, in fact, abbreviate their thoughts for the sake of brevity. It's not necessarily an attack on trans people.

"trans women" are biological males and often have gone thru male puberty making it objectively a male body competing against female bodies its literally that simple

I think you've got your logic wrong.  Being able to win an Olympic medal consists of an incredibly small number of people who have the physical gifts / mental grit and dedication. The number of MtF athletes is a tiny percentage and that they aren't close to the medals makes statistical sense. It's no different to if I took "all the enhancing drugs" and still didn't have a chance at weight lifting.

How many of you are going to parade this ridiculous argument? Growing up with the additional testosterone creates an unfair advantage physically. It’s basic science. Men and women’s sports have been separated for years because of it to provide a more equal playing field. It has nothing to do with gender discrimination. Just because a trans athlete may not have won a medal, doesn’t mean they don’t have an unfair advantage in that regard. Besides, with all due respect, didn’t the trans UPENN swimmer break damn near every women’s swimming record once allowed to compete? That’s a clear case of a trans athlete having an advantage but I’m sure y’all will try to find a way to make it personal anyway. https://www.npr.org/2025/07/02/nx-s1-5454369/upenn-swimming-records-feds-transgender-athletes I personally think the solution that would be most fair is what major world races do, just introduce a non-binary category that allows athletes to compete without strict gender restrictions. There’s no perfect answer but yall seriously need to grow up here. It’s not transphobia to look for the best way to keep athletics fair for all.

copied from another response edit: stop awarding me thats stupid. this isnt even my comment i just copied it because its a succinct list. imma play marathon now and ignore my inbox That is just patently false. Here are a few examples: **Katheryn Phillips** Kate Phillips won the 2025 USA Cycling national championship in the women’s masters 55-59 year ol category. **Veronica Garcia** Veronica Garcia won back-to-back state high school championships in Washington in the 400-meter run. She told anti-trans detractors after the state meet to “Get a life.” **Ana Caldas** Trans swimmer Ana Caldas won five national championships in swimming in the women’s 45-49 age category. Her margins of victory have shocked a lot of people, as she won by margins rarely seen in swimming. **AB Hernandez** AB Hernandez, a trans girl competing in girls track and field in California, blew away the competition at the Ontario Relays invitational, beating the second-place finisher by 8 feet, a shocking margin. It was about the same margin from second place to 13th place, which was last. **Aayden Gallagher** Aayden Gallagher won a high school girls track and field state championship in Oregon in the 200-meter race. **Noa-Lynn van Leuven** Van Leuven won the darts competition at her PDC Challenge Tour debut. Since then, some fellow darts players have spoken out against her inclusion in the sport, while her governing body stands by her. **Tiffany Abreu** The volleyball player was a big part of the team that won the 2022 Brazilian Cup. In 2025, at age 40, she won multiple major titles with her club, Osasco. Abreu came out several years earlier, stating she wanted to play in the Olympics. She was not selected by Brazil to compete in Tokyo. **JayCee Cooper** Cooper won the women’s 2019 national championship for bench press in the super heavyweight division. **Michelle Dumaresq** Michelle Dumaresq had fits and starts competing in the women’s category about two decades ago. Ultimately she won the right to compete and won the 2003 Canadian National Championships in downhill mountain biking. **Laurel Hubbard** The Olympic weightlifter won two Oceania Championships and two Commonwealth Championships, amongst many gold medals she won during her competition years, adding a World Masters Games title in 2017, when she won a silver in the World Championships. **Jamie Hunter** The billiards player won her first major ranking event when she took the 2022 US Women’s Snooker Open title. **Veronica Ivy** Ivy is a two-time masters world champion, notably winning the 2018 UCI World Masters Track Cycling Championships in her age category. Ivy was quickly denounced with hateful social-media messages. She continues to weather that criticism, and she has been a vocal proponent of trans inclusion in sports. **Austin Killips** Killips won the female New Mexico’s Tour of the Gila in May 2023. UCI shortly after announced they were re-examining their trans-athlete policy. **Jenna Lingwood** Jenna Lingwood won the 40-44 Masters championship at the 2022 USA Cyclocross Nationals in Connecticut. **Tiffany Newell** Newell won the women’s 45-49 Canadian indoor 5,000-meter race, setting a national record along the way, in 2022 **Wren Pyle** Pyle won the 2022 USA Skimo 2022 National Championship in the women’s U23 Sprint. **Natalie Ryan** Ryan won two major competitions in Professional Disc Golf Association’s elite tier in 2022, including the MVP Open. **Sadie Schreiner** Rochester Institute of Technology sprinter Sadie Schreiner won the 2024 Atlantic Region Outdoor 200-meter title. She also won multiple Liberty League championships. **Juniper Simonis** The roller derby athlete has won multiple World Championships with the Women’s Flat Track Derby Association. She was featured on The Trans Sporter Room podcast in 2019. **CeCé Telfer** Telfer won the Division II NCAA championship in the 400-meter hurdles as a senior at Franklin Pierce University in 2019. She was named Outsports’ Female Athlete of the Year that year. @cecetelfer **Lia Thomas** The University of Pennsylvania swimmer won a national NCAA Division I title in the 500 freestyle and made it to the final heat of the 100-free and 200-free.

Mediocre men becoming top of the line female athletes doesnt mean they are better than the 0.1% of female athletes, it still means they have an unfair advantage. They are just to shit to utilize it.

Just because other athletes have been able to overcome their unfair advantages doesn’t mean they still aren’t unfair advantages lol. Unfair Advantages =/= Automatic win. Unfair =/= Insurmountable Unfair doesn’t automatically become fair just because it wasn’t enough of an advantage to win.

Not a medal but have you ever watched any of Fallon Foxes MMA fights? After seeing her break a cis woman’s orbital bone, I started rethinking this subject and accepted the possibility that there could be an inherent advantage. Mainly because it really did look like a man beating the breaks off a woman, who later attested that she’s never felt any woman who was that strong or hit so hard. Maybe the advantages don’t carry over as much in other sports, I don’t know.

Best we can do is tons of cis women with DSD

Things seemed to work okay in the period where they weren’t doing sex testing and were allowing intersex women to compete.

So basically women's events have to be turned into a kind of Paralympic event?

Can you add a source for those numbers? A google search indicates 99.9% of cisgender women have XX and intersex combos are between 0.02- 1

If she succeeded on her planned lifts she would have gotten 3rd place, so a bronze medal. She was over 10 years older than her next nearest aged competitor, at 40 something years old dude.

Where's the Olympic medal on this list? Could've just led with that instead of a wall of random people who won, many of which are wins that don't really mean shit. Children's sports and Women's billiards... Are you kidding me? The grasping for straws is just pathetic.

None of these people are Olympians. No trans woman has medaled at the Olympics, which is what this thread is about.

> She told anti-trans detractors after the state meet to “Get a life” What was the point in adding this? It’s irrelevant to the data you’re trying to provide. There are a ton of questionable comments cisgender athletes make but those are irrelevant just like this one. Stuff like that detracts from your point and makes the rest of your comment in question as pushing an agenda not based on facts.

Alright, and we’re talking about the Olympics, of which none of these are.

Sure they can have a genetic advantage. The same way that Michael Phelps has a genetic advantage for swimming. Olympic athletes are built with a ton of visible and invisible genetic advantages that make them olympians. So what’s so different about this one?

Sure.. and Michael Phelps has a biological advantage against other swimmers because of a genetic mutation thst causes lactic acid to buold up more slowly in his muscles than in other swimmers, along with a much larger wingspan/more range of motion in his shoulders due to another condition... should he be banned because he has an innate biological advantage against other men competing because dude is basically half whale? The thing about elite athletes is... they *literally all* have been born with some sort of biological advantage over other athletes. Maybe their brain is just a bit faster. Maybe their legs are a bit longer. Maybe their bones can withstand a tiny bit more force than other peoples' bones. Maybe a male athlete's body naturally produces more testosterone than other male athletes, or the same for a female-- It's what allows them to come out on top, wether that advantage is mental or physical. There are extremely strict rules about the levels of testosterone both men and women competing in the olympics can have in their bodies-- as long as a competitor is wothin that limit they should be allowed to compete. 'Top female athletes tend to have more muscle mass and higher testosterone levels than female athletes competing at a lower levels or your average woman' isn't exactly some sort of hot take..

>Comparing this to fascism is just as ridiculous as your assumption that this will be "overwhelmingly negative" for all women. Very first line in the article. >Transgender women athletes are now excluded from women’s events at the Olympics after the IOC agreed to a new eligibility policy on Thursday which aligns with US President Donald Trump’s executive order on sports ahead of the 2028 Los Angeles Games. So none of this follows any other guideline other than a literal executive order.

Ok but I would love to see him compete in like skiing or swimming or ice skating. Wouldn't that legitimately be a good watch? Maybe we can get him on board, think of the ratings!

This ruling bans anyone with the SRY gene and includes people with DSD. Lin Yu Ting allegedly has a y chromosome, but she doesn't have the SRY gene on it, so she is eligible to compete, Imane Khelif has the SRY gene supposedly so would be banned going forward.

The IOC is an international body. How do you think the international community feels about transgender athletes?

There are clowns everywhere.

He misspoke, its not 2%. Its 0.028%. And no, 2% of 4 billion people is not a lot. Or, are you saying that because 2% of people are born with more or less than two legs, we cant classify human beings as bipedal? This is a silly argument.