Türkiye signals military action if Kurdish groups join attacks on Iran

Turkey is aligned against the Kurds. There is a large minority of Kurds concentrated in south east turkey who have a history of fighting turkey for autonomy and independence. Any Kurds trained and armed is a threat to turkey, even if initially they are only fighting Iran

They've hit all Kurdish groups that start to get organized into militias. In Iraq, Syria and now possibly Iran. Afraid they'll make their way into PKK eventually I suppose.

Turkey doesn't want the Kurds to have a sovereign state of their own. If the US wins against Iran with Kurdish help, they might get land out of it, and that's against Turkish interests. Wherever there have been Kurdish separatists/rebels fighting, Turkey has been there to bomb them, even when the Kurds are notionally on Turkey's "side", like in Syria.

Because of what the war on Iran has turned into. Iran knows this is sink or swim. Israel and the USA don't want to *defeat* Iran, they want to *destroy* Iran. What comes out the other side is extremely unclear if they win, but I could imagine that Israel and the USA would like to see Iran balkanized to prevent another similarly powerful successor state. An independent Kurdistan could form out of that. Currently no such country exists, but it's been a dream for a long time. If it is formed out of the ashes of Iran, then it will ramp up pressure on neighbouring countries with Kurdish populations. Right now they're mostly dissidents because there's not really a viable alternative state for them to join. But if there suddenly is one, then it could kick off a couple civil wars as the Kurdish minorities in Turkiye, Syria, and Iraq all try to move the borders so they're part of the new Kurdistan as well.

There is an organization called the KCK - Kurdistan Communities Union, they have branches in Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran. Turkey has been fighting an insurgency war with the Turkish branch the PKK since the 60's. They consider the PKK and through connection the KCK as a terrorist organization. For example the reason why Turkey attacked the SDF in Syria is because initially it was the YPG which is the military wing of the Syrian Branch of the KCK called the PYD. PKK commanders moved out of Turkey and joined the YPG to aid in their fight in Syria, which caused pressure from the US for them to rebrand to the SDF because they were technically supporting an organization which had the same commanders of an organization they deemed a terrorist organization. Now why does Turkey care if Kurds attack Iran? Because it's most likely going to mainly be headed by the Iranian branch called the PJAK. In the minds of Turkey PKK = YPG/SDF = PJAK. If it were the Peshmerga (The main group in Northern Iraq) which Turkey has good relations with I don't think Turkey would have as strong of a stance. But If its KCK related Turkey will get involved and from what I read it's the PJAK who are mainly preparing, along with non-KCK affiliated minor organizations. Edit: Turkey is also not allies with Iran but they are not enemies. Think of their situation as a stand off where they don't want to poke each other. Not enemies, but not friends.

They care if it isn't Barzani running the show at the end of the day.

No, the Turks just hate the Kurds.

Maybe it would end all wars

[https://youtube.com/watch?v=S-sqsvcZJ2w&si=\_a0\_2d\_sac9sydQ7](https://youtube.com/watch?v=S-sqsvcZJ2w&si=_a0_2d_sac9sydQ7) \- just gonna leave this here.

Um. pardon you, this is not a war. Trump said he couldn’t call it that because that requires congress votes.

> Everyone As much as I hate them, CCP-China won’t join this war

It is called Pedo War already.

That's exactly what Trump and Netanyahu have been trying to do. Making their war everybody's problem.

You're late to the party, pal. Uganda already seized Tehran and aren't stopping until they hit the Barents Sea.

Breaking news Uganda has just captured Washington DC, the US military is retreating after heavy losses

Don't stop a former ally when he's making one of the dumbest mistake of all time.

Yes we’ve had one war already, but what about second war?

where is this from again?

It's really really not. A European country is at war. The rest is mostly cheering for it and occasionally throwing in chairs to help Beat up the other guy.

All because of a sandwich. (I know that might be a myth but I like it)

Game changer right here, no one mess with the Uganda special forces

I laughed out so hard when I found Uganda on the map.

For now

They're not, they're feeding Iran intel and supplies like Russia.

China been supplying Iran for a while. They just always do everything passive aggressively, unless it's Philippino fishermen

China is the new USA, they will wait until everyone ripped each other to pieces, trade with everyone, then pick a side and auto win the war.

So is Europe. I don't think any country has signalled support to joining the fight. India has kept out of it too.

Dancing in the desert, blowing up the sunshine.

There are too many f****** madmen I. Power right now, things are gonna be drastically different by the time they're all dead

Hell no. The sooner this fiasco ends the better, considering how ridiculous it is that this started in the first place.

I feel like nobody wins in that universe.

Yes that's the one .

Yeah true , Lira is in perpetual decline for years and inflation of more than 30% they literally sold 10% of their gold reserves few days ago 60 tons gold worth 8 billion dollars.

>they can't exactly allow an independent kurdish country on their door step They *could*, if they had less of a history of awful imperialism (or handled it better afterwards).

Iraqi kurds are somewhat not an issue as they are under organized civilian leadership under Iraqi autonomy. Basicaly seems once there's someone they can talk into reigning military groups in, they'd rather use that string.

>Turkey and Erdogan are heavily anti-Kurdish, the Kurd’s gaining any type of power or leverage in the region is a big no no for them. Explain how KRI and Turkey have trade deals. >The Kurds in Syria (SDF) were NATO’s biggest partner in the fight against ISIS during their peak. And why try to paint SDF as some kind of heroic group? They made a deal with USA, to fight ISIS they gained A LOT of power, money, ammo, weapons, vehicles, increased their drug trafficking operations and were allowed to occupy a big portion of Syria, even places without a Kurdish majority. They benefited heavily from this deal. USA abandoning them was just them being not useful any longer or rather, USA found someone more useful. So they were not fighting ISIS out of their goodness and the biggest blow to them was done by USA by simply abandoning them, rather than by Turkey. >A Kurdish group/state on their border was quite literally a bigger threat than ISIS. Again, explain how KRI exists. What you mean is: Turkey doesn't want a separatist group that lays claim on Turkish territory to exist. Crazy! Which country are you from that loves it when some militia lays claim on your territory? I am curious. Also crazy that Turkey doesn't want its "NATO allies" to arm these separatist groups for their own benefits. Hmmm. TL;DR: Classic listnookor that uses "the Kurds" and "Kurdish" words the moment the conversation is about separatist groups as if all Kurds are part of them.

As opposed to what? Supporting an invasion of iran?

Turkey is not our vassal, they are barely even our ally these days, we try to avoid overly upsetting them and they remain nominally aligned and cooperate through nato.

Yes. I know. Let me be more precise: Turkey will decry Israel not ceding lands to create a Palestine while 1) not ceding lands of its own for Kurdistan, 2) not even letting a country next door have a Kurdistan. Wild.

Well, who's supporting ETIM?

My favorite part was when Trump said “It’s World Warbin Time”

PKK agreed to stop armed struggle through the pleas of their founder who is imprisoned in Turkey. We dont know what they were given, but YPG losing all footing in Syria probably didnt help them, PKK historically used Syria as a base of operations. Also, Erdoğan can very easily be forced out when he loses an election, he just didnt lose one yet.