How is cleaning and processing game in a public restroom not a potential biohazard?
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imhudson6 days ago
+741
That's the fun part...it IS! For both the people using the restroom and the people later eating the meat!
741
ElwoodJD6 days ago
+159
No doubt. Oops I pissed on your buck. My bad. Have fun eating it later.
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JohnBrownSurvivor5 days ago
+26
He says to someone holding a knife sharp enough to gut a buck. 😬
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ElwoodJD5 days ago
+7
I mean, I’m definitely shouting it as I run out the door full speed.
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JustHereForCookies175 days ago
+6
And presumably a gun that took down the buck in the first place.
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JohnBrownSurvivor5 days ago
+2
Nah. That would be back in the truck. It's kind of hard to gut a buck while holding a gun in one hand and a knife in the other hand.
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slghtlymad6 days ago
+64
It’s cool, CWD is the new measles
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Kcboom11 day ago
+2
Like our very own wet markets
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Redwood67106 days ago
+121
I'd guess that RJK Jr had input on that part.
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Aerhyce5 days ago
+54
RFK "I love eating roadkill" Jr was certainly actually mad that he couldn't clean his roadkill in a random truck stop restroom.
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Fallouttgrrl5 days ago
+15
Which is wild because I could actually see RFK coming out to say that pissing on roadkill helps sterilize the kill
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wastedpixls5 days ago
+4
"Just think extra warm thoughts to heat it up for extra action. That's what my experts and brain worms tell me!"
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m240bravoromeo5 days ago
+2
Piss contains natrates®, they are basically identical to the nitrates used by the food industry for preserving meat, but instead of being made in a lab like nitrates, natural nitrates also known as natrates® are grown inside of the body!
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squeezemachine6 days ago
+68
Hello chronic wasting disease! Quicker than ozempic!
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ATN-Antronach5 days ago
+7
And it never stops working! No more lazy ozempic!
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Due_Warthog7255 days ago
+23
lol remember how americans got all judgy about wet markets in china. how is this any different @.@
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CheatsySnoops4 days ago
+2
Simple, they didn't like that non-white people were doing it.
The white-centric view will be the end of society.
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Mother_Ad39886 days ago
+14
Can't wait for this to be how CWD jumps to humans
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Commercial-Virus26275 days ago
+8
This is all for RFK Jr
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0R4yman36 days ago
+12
Bringing the wet markets to people everywhere!
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Aldo_says5 days ago
+2
Some rich nitwit in some scummy way gets slightly more rich and we taxpayers pay the price. It's the law of the jungle according to shitheels like the diaper king and his brand of parasites.
Who knows with these weirdo dipshits?
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1d105 days ago
+3
More importantly, If I as a man kill a doe deer, can i gut and clean it in the male restroom or do i have to have a woman clean it for me in the ladies room?
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supercyberlurker6 days ago
+1100
Cleaning and processing deer kills in a restroom is certainly a .. *choice.*
I wouldn't want to eat that meat, that's for sure. I wouldn't want to be the worker who has to clean up restrooms each day there either.
1100
Medium-Oil15306 days ago
+396
I used to work in a county park and with us it was always fun cleaning fish guts out of the sinks.
People are gross.
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Ok_Guide80846 days ago
+48
wouldn't it be useful to provide a cleaning table since allowing fishing at the park?
(yes, using the sinks is gross and dumb, however this feels like the argument against putting a trash can at a bus stop and then continuing to b**** that people are leaving trash on the ground. classic government problem-solving efficiency and effectiveness.)
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Medium-Oil15305 days ago
+69
"wouldn't it be useful to provide a cleaning table"
We did.
It was probably just closer using the bathroom sink or perhaps someone was at the cleaning station and they didn't want to wait... or they were just being pricks.
Once someone filled all of the toilets at the beach bathroom with sand.
Fun times.
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dultas5 days ago
+4
> Once someone filled all of the toilets at the beach bathroom with sand.
To be fair I've eaten shit from not paying attention to the waves and felt like I had enough sand in my shorts to do that unintentionally.
4
Ok_Guide80845 days ago
+2
sheesh. some people suck. unreal.
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Q_OANN5 days ago
+12
They always have cleaning tables, people just use bathrooms
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whynotjoin6 days ago
+107
You'd be shocked at how common it is- in no small part because restrooms often have drains available either via floors or showers (or even sinks for smaller game or fish).
Had a friend that was an RD at a college in rural New England- the type of place where she also helped students manage the campus gun storage process- and on more than a few occasions she walked in on or had to meet with students about their decision to clean their hunted game in the floor bathroom's showers.
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JoshHuff13326 days ago
+15
Not quite the same, but my dad cleaned a deer in a tree outside of his dorm room (conveniently the same location where I stayed, but a newer building when I came around). Got the cops called on him when he came in asking for trash bags lol
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214ObstructedReverie5 days ago
+22
>I wouldn't want to be the worker who has to clean up restrooms each day there either.
DOGE fired that guy.
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mwdeuce6 days ago
+35
lol seriously, only the most trashy rednecks alive are going to be doing this
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mikeveeUI6 days ago
+24
And unfortunately there is a whole lot of them.
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Nickmorgan194576 days ago
+19
I know *one* guy who’s going to be all over toilet deer meat.
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MobileArtist13716 days ago
+5
Barfly7777 voted for this.
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SilverCats5 days ago
+5
This was idea that came from people who were licking toilet seats during COVID. What did you expect?
Now that I think about it licking toilet seats sounds like a good idea to me and something that this administration should encourage.
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SqueezedTowel6 days ago
+2
Just lock the bathroom up and refuse to clean it just like angry gas station attendants do. What is Trump going to do? Fire them?
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beastwood94986 days ago
+2608
Don’t understand the out and out hate these people have for anything not self serving.
2608
whatproblems6 days ago
+747
money and power above all
747
INFLATABLE_CUCUMBER6 days ago
+46
Do not blame the shark for eating, or the snake, as it’s just part of their programming.
Similar for the carnivorous monsters in power. It’s just in their nature.
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jg1365216 days ago
+49
Monsters are always hungry. That’s what makes them monsters.
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Beerdriver566 days ago
+82
A shark stops when it's full. They are more like a forest fire or a tornado.
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whomad12155 days ago
+5
more like a house cat that just kills for fun
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B4rrel_Ryder6 days ago
+30
Those animals are not malicious. These people are.
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wanderingAtlas5 days ago
+10
Except people are not animals and are fully able to act with empathy and intelligence. It's not their "nature." Its a willful decision.
I hate your analogy because it does not account for the active choice Trump and his ilk make to be evil. A shark doesn't have the ability to sympathize with or understand its prey. It simply eats to survive. It isnt right or wrong and sharks dont have the ability to tell right from wrong.
Trump and friends may be dumb, but its still a willful choice. Dont make excuses for them by calling it their nature. Theyre just shitty people.
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SonOfScions5 days ago
+6
There is a movie or four about this exact subject. when the shark eats too many people, they hunt it down and kill it.
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Zombie_Cool6 days ago
+71
There's no profit in "Public Good".
When "Wealth is Worth", giving something away for free is heresy of the highest order.
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LowerRhubarb6 days ago
+276
Anything less than hunting people in the streets for sport, dumping radioactive waste into the water supply, and corporations being fully immune to litigation is socialism and government overreach to these insane morons.
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SmaugTheGreat1106 days ago
+67
But abortion and trans laws aren’t? What people do to their own bodies should be their own choice. Weird how hypocritical they are about government overreach
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TheLamey6 days ago
+57
There's no moral consistency, just power. In groups of power and outgroups of powerless.
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HeadyBunkShwag6 days ago
+13
Gives them a hill to let their supporters die on too
13
bigloser4205 days ago
+9
They love that they hurt people.
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SlamMeatFist6 days ago
+12
Its weird you think they are above that.
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Evadson6 days ago
+18
At this point they are just burning the world to the ground solely out of spite.
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DownhillUphill6 days ago
+174
It’s shocking that these “sportsmen” don’t care that destroying nature will destroy what they supposedly love
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FireworkFuse6 days ago
+200
To a lot of them, it's okay if they individually do it but will hand wring over the coming decades about all the "bad hunters who went too far" as these formerly protected lands decay.
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Necessary_Sir_50796 days ago
+43
It'll be all Joe Biden's fault
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Niceromancer6 days ago
+21
This is exactly it.
They all think it will only be them overhunting so it won't have a noticable impact. Then it turns out 500 of them were doing it and tye damage is too far gone to repair.
But it will be a mysterious other personas fault.
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Krewtan6 days ago
+44
A lot of them hunt on "game preserves" where the animal is fenced in on private land and privately owned. Some feed the animals growth hormones to increase the size of their antlers. They don't need a permit to shoot what is basically "livestock", some of these owners even breed endangered species to make the hunts more exotic.
They don't need federal parks or preserves to do their hunting. Many of them also travel overseas and to Canada where there is plenty of game and land far away from people. Shooting things like lions to get bragging rights. National parks have nothing to do with their hobby.
I grew up hunting and actually had to learn a lot to shoot deer and game birds. I learned it wasn't about bragging rights but rather a way to have some game meat in the freezer. I usually just got a doe tag because they're easier to get and easier to find/shoot. Didn't care about bragging rights, I was more interested in finding an animal with a good amount of meat that would be easy to process and get home on a cold enough day to keep the meat from spoiling. There's definitely two types of hunters in the world, and the rich have nothing in common with the likes of me.
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GradStudent_Helper6 days ago
+11
Nice to see someone who actually thinks like a hunter with respect for game. I grew up the same - my dad was basically an environmental conservationist at heart. He taught me disdain for those dudes that drive around with their (spoiled) game draped over the hood of their truck. I've known guys that basically hunt on leased land (or their own land) and take maybe 40 deer a year (WELL over the legal limit and for how many tags they have). They don't care. It's all about bragging rights. The meat off 40 deer would feed me for a lifetime (I don't eat THAT much meat). It's really disgusting how people treat the natural world and living animals as if it's their playground.
These days, I can't even justify hunting at all. Growing up, we had access to people's farms (they welcomed us to harvest a couple of deer to protect their soybean crops) and ate what we took. Pretty much deer, quail, and what we could get fishing (not much as I'm a terrible fisherman). But I couldn't justify it today: first pay thousands to join some kind of hunting club that has leased some land, buy a bunch of gear, pay to have the meat processed, and buy a huge freezer to keep it in.
Not to mention my wife is basically a vegetarian who won't even eat someone's homemade salsa (because it has no expiration date and no "company" behind the sanitation of it). So hunting is out.
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CPTDisgruntled6 days ago
+6
From the article:
“The order, which takes effect on Monday, applies to some 76 federal lands that allow hunting but have rules to protect habitats or people. Curecanti National Recreation Area in Colorado had prohibited firing weapons from, toward or across trails. At Lake Meredith National Recreation Area in Texas, hunters had been barred from **cleaning and processing game animals in restrooms**. And at the Ozark National Scenic Riverways in Missouri, hunting dogs were required to have tags for safety.”
What can go wrong…
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GradStudent_Helper5 days ago
+3
Holy Hell...
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GarmaCyro5 days ago
+3
Let's see. The most obvious ones being contaminated meat and restrooms.
Now add in the number of restrooms that could get trashed by predators smelling potential food. Double so as I doubt people using restroom to clean/process game cares about properly removing anything they discard.
Possibility of both humans and predators getting harmed due to increased interaction around restrooms.
Don't have anything against game hunting. Especially whenever it operates to counter risks of overpopulation followed by mass starvation. Basic conservation efforts.
Hunting, foraging and fishing for food is a bit part of my country's culture. So we're quite obsessed about ensuring a rich flora and fauna is maintained, and that people utilize everything of any game they fell. Trophy hunters are not welcome here.
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Sterling_-_Archer6 days ago
+63
Yeah, Teddy Roosevelt would absolutely wring these idiots for some of the ecological destruction they’ve wrought while hunting for sport.
Honestly, I’m sick and tired of the rich running roughshod over the public as a whole while all we can do is watch with abject horror and dismay. Since there apparently won’t be any form of actual punishment for them, I just comfort myself by saying that at least it’ll all be over one day when they finally drop the straw that breaks the habitability of the earth and they’ll have to suffer too.
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burgonies6 days ago
+5
I can't tell if this is a joke or not. Wasn't Teddy Roosevelt a huge sport hunter?
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NeutralBias6 days ago
+65
Yes. But he was also a huge conservationist, and recognized the importance of preserving nature for its own sake and for our future selves. It was a major feature of his administration.
Edit: I should add that Teddy Roosevelt's theory of conservation had a more utilitarian view - he wanted the lands to be productive as they are and continuously in the future. That stands in contrast to John Muir (founder of Sierra club) who had more of a focus on beauty and aesthetics.
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Sterling_-_Archer6 days ago
+39
Yes, and a massive environmentalist and massive animal conservation activist who enacted essentially all wildlife protection rules as you know them and made the US globally famous for our national parks
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Skrivus6 days ago
+33
He was but he also established the National Forest Service, established 150 national forests, and strengthened prosecution/penalties for poachers.
He understood that one needs to manage them otherwise everything interesting will be wiped out
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Smart-Response98816 days ago
+26
Yes, but he was also an environmentalist.
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hartemis6 days ago
+14
Most hunters are.
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Judson_Scott5 days ago
+4
Sport hunting is a vital part of protecting the environment and controlling wildlife, and has been forever.
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Septopuss76 days ago
+4
To save them you must kill them. Jokes aside, chilling the herd is part of it.
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toggiz_the_elder6 days ago
+27
They lack empathy. Want to read about people torturing a wolf?
https://coloradosun.com/2024/04/16/dying-wolf-struck-by-snowmobile-shown-off-in-wyoming-bar/
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Oregon-Pilot6 days ago
+4
Forever blue, thanks
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Sandblaster19886 days ago
+12
Not shocking at all. They’re the same sort of ridiculous hypocrite that will claim to be religious or a patriot while supporting an authoritarian that attempted a coup and was best friends with a sex trafficker.
The entire modern day conservative movement is fucked in the head.
As long as the people they don’t like suffer they’re perfectly fine with the obscenely wealthy and the GOP personally enriching themselves at everyone and everything’s expense.
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bimbuppy6 days ago
+8
You need to understand that in order to have the kind of ideology these people have, you have to be evil. There is a fundamental mechanism in their brains that is broken that will not allow them to think in the same way you or I do - they do not care about anything but themselves and their own personal satisfaction. Everything - the land, the people in it, the animals that call it home - should be for them and their enjoyment first and foremost and they see nothing wrong with utter destruction and destitution for everyone else. I'm confident Peter Thiel would kill a billion people without even blinking if you told him it'd up his net worth by another 0.
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captnconnman6 days ago
+5
Deep down, they KNOW they’re bad people, and the fact that anyone else can find fulfillment by not being self-serving is a threat to their sense of self and self-worth. Ergo, rather than reflecting on the consequences of their actions and how they affect other people, they take the safer psychological route and just double down on their awful behavior, finding any “logical” justification to continue doing what they’re doing. Sartre said it best: “Hell is other people” - not because other people are the enemy, but because it’s hard to define your own values without considering other people and how they perceive you. Collaborating with, engaging with, and having empathy for your fellow man fundamentally challenges your notion of self-identity, for better or for worse.
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UnStricken6 days ago
+13
They believe their money and power will solve any problems or issues they might face, because up until now it has.
Completely decimated climate? They will live in their billion dollar bunkers that have climate control.
Decimated food chain? They will just simply pay whatever the raised cost of food will be.
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ChemBob16 days ago
+8
They will all be dead in their bunkers within 5 years of the rest of us dying. That is unless their bunker ventilation isn’t all gassed sooner than that.
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Anitapoop6 days ago
+6
They are hoping AI and robots can take our place before the riots. Bomb collars on the security teams, they already discussed this and we just said yeah that's cool.
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dmanbiker6 days ago
+4
They don't see it that way. We are their slaves and they are kings who can never be wrong and never do wrong. That's literally how they feel because they've had everything given to them their whole lives and have naturally progressed into how they are.
Unfortunately for them, unlike their forefathers who gave them all the wealth, they can be some of the biggest inexperienced morons you'll ever cross paths with. There isn't an ounce of wisdom or forethought left in their brains, they just think everything in the world is part of their magic kingdom and its their role to make as much money as possible to enrich their lives at the expense of the poor who want to take it away. And a bunch of the poors are stupid enough to fall for it too.
Ideally they could replace any interaction with us, with AI instead, so they can just live in their own utopian bunkers while everything goes to shit. Wonder why rich folks seem to like AI so much? AI isn't meant to enrich our lives, its meant to simplify us so it can enrich our masters and give them firmer control.
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xeoron6 days ago
+2
I bet this is why they fired so much of the forest service
2
AnimalBolide6 days ago
+2
Anything that isn't free to r*** or loot is *stolen* from them, and they hate everyone who would keep them from losing obvious gain.
2
No-Weakness-20356 days ago
+2
I think this is a pander to the hunt & fish community, because he pissed them off earlier in the year, and he’s desperate for approval ratings.
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bloodlessempress6 days ago
+2
I don't think most of those hunters want to be around for when their hunting buddies nail a kid in the neck because they saw a buck across a trail.
2
jpiro6 days ago
+670
It's like this admin wakes up each morning, says "What's the dumbest thing I can possibly do today?" and then does that thing. Every. F******. Day.
670
cybah6 days ago
+97
Seriously, its so exhausting.
97
Unumbotte6 days ago
+57
"Flood the zone with shit."
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skyysdalmt6 days ago
+19
Don't worry. We're only about 30% through all this.
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jpiro6 days ago
+16
Chance to significantly shift it in November…IF Dems get off their ass and vote in huge numbers.
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reddit_ending_soon5 days ago
+2
> Don't worry. We're only about 30% through all this.
Nah you still dont get it. The Trump era is a permanent stain that is never washing off. We may get a whole new piece of clothing eventually, but no one reading this will be alive when it happens.
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Oregon-Pilot6 days ago
+5
We’d be lucky if that is what went through their head, because that would imply they’re smart enough to realize what they’re doing is dumb, which means that maybe, just maybe, they’d be smart enough to not do anything that was *too* dumb.
Sadly, they’re just f****** stupid as shit and they truly don’t see any problems with what they’re doing. They think they’re very smart and Donald Trump is, hands down, the luckiest son of a b**** to ever live. There is absolutely no reason he should still be as successful as he is. Life should have caught up with that fat f*** long ago, but he’s just slipped by every last guardrail we had, for some reason.
5
TheLabRay6 days ago
+3
There was a book called "Eat the Frog!" that made its way around some companies' required reading a while ago. I think they took the message to be if it is awful do it.
3
unhiddenninja6 days ago
+2
The fewer voices we have that are actually involved in any decision making, the more extreme the outcomes will be. If this was up for a real vote with other people, it wouldn't happen this way.
2
grittyboda20206 days ago
+1279
>The order, which takes effect on Monday, applies to some 76 federal lands that allow hunting but have rules to protect habitats or people. Curecanti National Recreation Area in Colorado had prohibited firing weapons from, toward or across trails. At Lake Meredith National Recreation Area in Texas, hunters had been barred from cleaning and processing game animals in restrooms. And at the Ozark National Scenic Riverways in Missouri, hunting dogs were required to have tags for safety.
>Those and many other requirements are now deleted.
Imaging having to weigh your love of the outdoors against whether it's worth risking getting shot hiking on a public trail. Or walking into a bathroom to see someone full-out gutting a buck.
This administration will not rest until every single good thing in this country is taken from us.
1279
punkasstubabitch6 days ago
+296
It seems anything that is not a golf course or doesn't funnel profits to billionaires is "woke."
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youngguac6 days ago
+65
Oh don’t worry, they’re closing the one of the very few municipal golf courses in DC over some extreme pettiness too.
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punkasstubabitch6 days ago
+6
Haha, peasant, municipal courses are for commies. /s
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Dougalishere6 days ago
+57
Like wtf why remove forbidding firing towards or over trails? How long till some poor sod gets fkn shot
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monsterbreath6 days ago
+45
They want people to get shot so they can close it and sell the land under the guise of "public safety".
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Dougalishere6 days ago
+14
Ive never been to the States but even as a kid I was aware of how awesome your national parks and general landscapes are. Ive allways wanted to visit some of those places. I know there is a lot to choose to be angry at right now but the reduction in protections and laws governing these places coupled with stripping the people that work in these places is something ive really felt properly saddened by. Giving over these places to miners/loggers etc or really anything that lessens these important areas of natural beauty is a fkn travesty. 😞
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SmaugTheGreat1106 days ago
+10
They shouldn’t have been in the way of the gun, just like kids in schools obviously
/s
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_neutral_person6 days ago
+22
These rules are common sense. Media just needs to video these things in action. The general public might be OK with the idea until it happens.
I personally would love to see a tiktok of someone entering a bathroom with blood and guts everywhere (you know they are not cleaning that shit up) and complaining.
Reps from the surrounding areas are going to complain, even if they are MAGA.
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CTQ996 days ago
+2
I need tags on my dog just to have him be anywhere public, Let alone having to keep him leashed. Why do these hunting dogs need to run tagless?
2
jfsindel6 days ago
+71
This is what happens when you don't place emphasis or teach children how to appreciate things that serve no practical value to an individual.
Yeah, it's a very nice place to go. You walk around, enjoy the outdoors, and go home. It exists as a greater value "as is" for animals, the environment, and people to just love. It doesn't turn a profit. You cannot hunt things to extinction. Cannot roll your big SUV through it while blasting music.
But many Americans are furious with that concept. "You mean I can't just shoot big deer anywhere and mount it!? What the f*** is the point of going outside then??? I can't clean my buck in a restroom where people might use??? I have to GO HOME and use my OWN facility??? This park serves nothing to me, why do we have it around??? We could raze it and sell condos!"
If there is one thing I learned as an adult, it's that so many adults are big and selfish toddlers with the emotional maturity of a carrot.
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JohnBrownSurvivor6 days ago
+155
> This administration will not rest until every single good thing in this country is taken from us.
That is, quite literally, the plan. It's not just that it feels like that's the plan. Putin has told Trump to f*** every single solitary thing up as much as possible. So that is exactly what he is doing. Putin wants the United States to feel as terrible to live in as it feels to live in Russia. And that's just because Putin is f****** jealous.
All of these assholes could have worked together to make everything nice for everybody. But instead, because it's impossible to make everything nice for everybody and also them get to steal everything, they are literally just competing on how fast they can make everything terrible for everybody.
155
Tygerius6 days ago
+137
This isn’t Putin, this is Project2025, the wealthiest and most powerful Americans want this
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jmur30406 days ago
+26
This is what republicans will do every single time they get power. Remember it and vote for the candidate that has the highest odds of defeating them at every level of government.
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JohnBrownSurvivor6 days ago
+47
I think that the project 2025 people just want all the c*** that lets them control the country. I think it's Putin that wants Trump to do all the lame ass shit that just fucks things up for no damn good reason. It is unfortunate that many of them overlap quite a bit.
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arbutus14406 days ago
+26
One of the best things I read early in the Trump days put it like this: Trumpism is really the convergence of a handful of axes of power, kind of like characters in the movie Reservoir Dogs. They're all disgusting and driven by nothing but pure psychotic greed, and they don't necessarily like each other. But to get what they want, they'll work together for as long as they need to.
Project 2025 wants safeguards against unchecked power demolished. Trump, Elon, etc. want anything that hurts their feelings demolished. Fox News wants civic awareness demolished. Putin wants America demolished. Their goals and methods overlap almost completely.
It's probably the world's first true global corporatocracy. It's a junta enabled by unprecedented control of information and propaganda in the internet age.
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TachiH6 days ago
+23
Also if you are processing an animal for meat...who the f*** would do that in a public toilet?! Not sure which is less hygienic, the carcass or what its rested on.
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Blonde_O_Rama6 days ago
+10
Who does this help? Why do this other than making things worse
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Worthyness5 days ago
+2
safety is woke apparently. Who the f*** wants to see deer guts and carcasses in the park restrooms? Who the f*** wants to actually eat a deer cleaned in a park restroom? Why wouldn't you want to know that you can visit the park without f****** dying from idiots who don't know how to shoot? And that includes the people who hunt!
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rocky8u6 days ago
+66
Federal lands are not for us *peasants*. They are only for our betters to enjoy at their leisure.
You wander in the nobility's hunting lands at your own risk and don't you dare poach their game!
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Logical_Mix_46276 days ago
+16
It’s definitely just rednecks and hillbillies doing the lion’s share of the hunting.. with a sprinkling of upper middle class from the doctor/lawyer/business owner groups. These are all working class.
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DetectiveFreakachu6 days ago
+15
Rich conservatives love hunting for trophies and have the money to travel around to national parks to shoot animals.
Upper middle class is mutually exclusive with working class (lower-income people in non-professional, non-white-collar jobs)
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Logical_Mix_46276 days ago
+6
If you have to work for your money (job, not just collecting %), you’re working class.
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Choclategum6 days ago
+6
Yeah in my experience, lower class people just hunt locally and take the occasional trip to national hunting grounds for fun.
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AudibleNod6 days ago
+23
Because you just know some ignoramus isn't going to understand the difference between federal and state land and they're going to pull this shit somewhere they're not supposed to and use this as their excuse. Then, a full minute later MAGA tiktok will complain that Zohran Mamdani is taking something away that Daddy Trump gave them.
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IMOBY_Edmonton6 days ago
+18
It's disturbing especially as videos keep emerging online of hunters being shot at by other "hunters." The US has a real problem with antisocial social and dangerous people, which decisions like these basically cater too.
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leviathab131866 days ago
+16
Every hunter I know would think anyone who does these things is a f****** moron.
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RightZer0s5 days ago
+4
To be fair you should gut your deer where you killed them. Fuckers are heavy as hell if you don't and you're providing lots of food for carrions and predators. I would absolutely never process any sort of game in a bathroom that's f****** disgusting.
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drewts866 days ago
+7
\> At Lake Meredith National Recreation Area in Texas, hunters had been barred from cleaning and processing game animals in restrooms.
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\> Or walking into a bathroom to see someone full-out gutting a buck.
Given that this is a lake, I would guess this has to do with fishing more than hunting. But either way, it could be resolved by setting up a fish cleaning station or, if it is hunting, a gutting station/rack. It’s not a tall ask and is an easy way to address the situation that Trump just unleashed.
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RightZer0s5 days ago
+3
No joke one is a sink and table the other is literally a taller metal rack.
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drewts865 days ago
+3
Yeah I have a really hard time believing anyone is processing deer in a bathroom. One of two thing is happening. Either:
\* people were processing fish in the sink, or
\* people were processing deer, coyote or waterfowl and dumping offal into the pit/vault toilets.
Unlike human waste that’s been processed by the gut, offal doesn’t break down as readily. The pit toilets they have at these places have to be pumped when full and taken to a sewage treatment facility to be disposed of. It’s expected to be waste that is able to be broken down and offal would have to be filtered and segregated, which creates its own problem. If this is the case it would quite literally be better for hunters to dump the offal on the ground and let scavengers take care of it. I have a feeling the problem was more likely fishermen than hunters, but who really knows. 🤷🏼♂️
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mapped_apples6 days ago
+4
Those are just standard regs too - like, nobody actually gets harmed by having those but people (and their dogs) are much safer for having them. What the f*** are these people smoking?
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Defiant-Scholar-7936 days ago
+8
.....why would you eat venison butchered in a bathroom? This is a thing?
What the f*** is wrong with people?
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lifelongcargo5 days ago
+3
Trans people aren’t allowed in the bathroom, but gutting a deer is.
I’m sure every one of these rules had a clear, specific instance (or several) that showed the necessity of the rule. Administrators aren’t just making rules up because they’re bored.
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optimaloutcome6 days ago
+2
I ride public trails on my mountain bike where hunting is allowed. Have for years, as well as thousands of people annually. I passed a guy with a shotgun on Sunday. It's not a huge deal. I do wear a bright red shirt when I ride those areas during hunting times, though half the reason is that it's my favorite shirt.
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Thermitegrenade6 days ago
+118
I've hunted before, and even I think that "cleaning game in restrooms" is crazytown.
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CynicalPomeranian6 days ago
+28
I am all but certain that this is an RFK Jr. request because someone yelled at him for doing it before while his kids waited in the car.
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shyndy6 days ago
+10
I’m more perplexed that this was ever an issue enough to have to have been a rule lol.
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ginger_whiskers6 days ago
+2
I can't imagine picking a bathroom over just hanging the damn thing from a tree. Are they doing it for the air conditioning? Cleaning deer in a shower stall for easy clean-up? The only thing that makes sense is fish.
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Persimmon-Mission6 days ago
+36
I’m so sick of hearing “Trump administration orders”
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heavymetaldundee6 days ago
+94
Local news: "a boy was shot today while walking a trail. Witnesses say it was a hunting accident."
Local news: "The nearby National Forest is being sued by a person with disabilities claiming that all the bathrooms were closed. Forest employees say they closed all bathrooms to prevent hunters from processing their kills in the bathrooms."
Trump regime: " Welp, this forest looks to dangerous and costly to keep open. Let's sell it for pennies on the dollar to the first logging company that 'donates' a million dollars."
Local news interviewing Trump: "Mr. president, do you have any advice for avid outdoor enthusiasts to get their recreation time since you are closing the nearby National Forest?"
Trump in response: "yes. They can take a break at their second job during break time. They don't need to relax. This whole country relaxes. Someone has to work. No one wants to work anymore."
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SmaugTheGreat1106 days ago
+18
This is looking scarily real
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spiceypickle25 days ago
+3
I was mountain biking once on state land and heard a ton of bullets flying over my head, not fired directly at me. There were also dozens of other people on the trail system that day. Anyway, I saw a Border Collie limping down the hill and collapse. I called 911 and animal control came out, dog was still alive and conscious. I also called the number on the collar and the owner said their dog escaped their yard a couple hours ago in town. I had at least gotten up the hill and a description of the vehicle before they took off, which was in vein. Animal control told me to my face that the shooter was most likely in the right and protecting their horses or livestock and was being given the benefit of the doubt, a half f****** mile from any private property. Animal control hauled the dog off to the vet and the owner called me back saying the dog didn't make it and they found several 223 bullets in it's abdomen.
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gnanny026 days ago
+23
Hard to imagine that "prohibited firing weapons from, toward or across trails" is not appropriate for "the minimum safety" concerns.
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Flimsy_Echidna61325 days ago
+19
I’m convinced this administration is actively working towards the destruction of this country and nothing more. It’s not even about greed at this point, they are just making sure life sucks for everyone everywhere all the time in every regard.
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hookahsmokingladybug6 days ago
+15
He is so pissed having to identify animals on his dementia tests he wants to get rid of all of them hoping the question will go away
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mashley5036 days ago
+77
I think two things:
Check from the hunting lobbyists cleared.
Low key permitting armed groups on federal lands “just hunting.”
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brutinator6 days ago
+13
> Check from the hunting lobbyists cleared.
I'm sorry, but what is the benefit to the hunting lobby to allow field dressing kills in the restroom, or shooting across walking trails?
Like, if they were spending a billion dollars to install ugly field dressing stations across all these parks, I could see how that could be a boon to the hunting lobby, but a sink full of rotting animal guts?
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LeakyAssFire6 days ago
+3
Armed groups on federal lands, with or without hunting, has always been a thing in Colorado.
Removing the rule that we can't shoot from or over paths is stupid though.
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Modern_Bear6 days ago
+27
>Internal Interior Department documents show parks are imposing sweeping changes like expanding areas where firearms can be used and allowing game to be cleaned in restrooms.
Besides increasing the chances of park goers being shot by hunters that are irresponsible or just flat out stupid, the restroom change is unsanitary and just plain disgusting. This administration doesn't have a single competent person in it. It's 100% moronic sycophants.
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Weed_Lova6 days ago
+42
You know Don Jr. is a big hunter, right? This is self-serving like all of this administration’s policies, and I’m a hunter.
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sid-darth6 days ago
+20
He just hasn't met the right elephant yet.
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trustifarian6 days ago
+19
the guy in the photo holding an elephant tail with a perfectly clean knife and perfectly clean clothes?
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GoneinaSecondeded5 days ago
+9
It's getting harder to believe that my fellow citizens have any kind of critical thinking skills.
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internetlad6 days ago
+9
Hunters and Conservationists should be up in arms about this too. Not gonna be good news in 5-10 years when animal populations go the way of the bison
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sevilyra6 days ago
+7
Ahh so THIS is the thing about the world that's going to piss me off today. Lovely. Can't wait to see what it is tomorrow.
We're all so tired of this shit.
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Palegreenhorizon6 days ago
+7
This is asinine, what idiot want to clean game animas in a restroom? Shooting across trails is super dangerous for all people, hunters included. Everyone gets all up in arms over “rules” but they often got put in place for very good reasons. Like yes we all speed, but it’s a social contract, if I fail to notice I’m in a school zone and am going 20 over speed limit I should get pulled over. It’s a sucks but it’s a reminder, because we all make mistakes. And better to remind people of that the. To have a bunch of kids trying to cross the street get plowed by a car.
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InstructionPurple9116 days ago
+5
Which billionaire is this for? Or is this just a late night tweet from Rogan to the president?
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slayermcb6 days ago
+6
This just feels more like Trumps promised fight against regulations. Most of these rules were put in place for a reason, but instead of figuring out why, just get rid of them all because regulation bad. I'm so done with this and we've still got almost 3 years left.
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ObviouslyRealPerson6 days ago
+14
We're keeping track of all this shit we have to fix when he's gone, right?
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no_id_never6 days ago
+3
That list is going to be longer than the Epstein files.
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ccaccus5 days ago
+2
"Executive order to reset executive orders to Jan 19, 2017."
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No-Drama-in-Paradise6 days ago
+6
\> Curecanti National Recreation Area in Colorado had prohibited firing weapons from, toward or across trails.
I’m so glad people can now shoot guns towards and across trails! That really will fix all of our problems.
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JackMickus6 days ago
+5
Great, now RFK can just go shoot amimals so he can cut the penises off their dead bodies instead of waiting to find them dead like he did with that raccoon.
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-waveydavey-5 days ago
+5
Everything he touches turns to shit
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+5
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jbarchuk5 days ago
+2
The malignant narcissist doesn't care what it breaks. The nihilist doesn't who it takes with it.
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thetactlessknife6 days ago
+2
When you value money over life, it’s easy to see how these policy changes make sense.
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Igotdaruns5 days ago
+5
Finally we can hunt children on federal property!
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winter328425 days ago
+4
Even the poor animals are not safe from this administration.
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Cohens4thClient6 days ago
+19
Junior needs to go murder something on a cocaine binge?
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stein636 days ago
+6
Opening more federal land while cutting the people who monitor it is how protections quietly disappear. Protections get removed, and they’re harder to put back once opened, while more access means more pressure, more overlap, and fewer eyes on what’s actually happening on the ground.
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tht1guy636 days ago
+6
Im sorry they can now fire toward and across trails.... wtf.... thats a lawsuit and death waiting to happen.
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RandyOfTheRedwoods5 days ago
+3
I am trying to see this giving the benefit of doubt. Maybe the issue is the specific definition of what a trail is (deer trail, fully improved gravel path, somewhere in between?) might be impossible to judge from a legal perspective.
Certainly on the surface, it doesn't make any sense.
Hunters already have a legal requirement to know what is down range any time they shoot, so even if trails are not explicitly illegal, shooting at other people would still remain illegal.
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Indiana_Indiana6 days ago
+3
Better start wearing orange when you go hiking
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burgonies6 days ago
+3
I read the title as "Trump Administration Orders Rapid End to Some Hunting on Federal Lands" and was wondering why people were so pissy about it. I could see hunters being annoyed... Oh. "Hunting *Rules".* The rules they gave examples of seem like ones we should keep.
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jeterix73876 days ago
+3
MAGA is losing its base and this is a c**** grab to bring them back into the fold.
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LoveIsAFire6 days ago
+3
Just ruining every f****** thing in this country
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Beautiful-Lie12395 days ago
+3
Many—if not all of the rules have been initiated by hunters themselves and for their good.
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sleeplessinreno6 days ago
+5
> firing weapons from, toward or across trails
Oh, I predict a problem starting this fall.
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Entire_Employment_705 days ago
+2
I dont, its been allowed in the state forests around me for forever and ive never heard of a hiker getting shot, most hunting takes place when theres much less other recreation going on in the woods anyway, we just post signs saying theres a season in progress and people know to either wear orange or stay out. Ive set up in trees right next to trails many times out bowhunting and its frankly ridiculous to think theres anything dangerous about that
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fafnir016 days ago
+6
How much longer before I can deer hunt in my city parks from playground equipment? /s
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chilem-of-reddit6 days ago
+2
I just pictured a person in camouflage trying to aim while on one of the springy horse toys at a playground.
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meeplewirp6 days ago
+4
Wow I thought it would be something imaginable and banally evil, like increasing the amount of animals a hunter can kill per year or something. Instead it’s true deep idiocy and allowing people to shoot across trails. wtf I kind of doubt hunters were ever picketing to be able to skin animals in the bathroom or be allowed to shoot across trails. Insane and stupid
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Eastern_Loquat_70586 days ago
+4
They are demons every single one
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Abhoth526 days ago
+2
I needs to shoot mah gun and keel some animules.
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UndahwearBruh6 days ago
+2
Finally! This will save the economy…
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clashrendar6 days ago
+2
The Juniors (Don and RFK) are going bear hunting...
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CodePandorumxGod6 days ago
+2
Why?
I am a hunter myself and a lot of these rules seem like common sense. Do they just not want to spend the money to enforce them? Is it a budgetary thing?
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SentientFotoGeek6 days ago
+2
Anything to "own the libs". Even if it destroys their own people in the process. Such short sighted idiocy.
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sacktime6 days ago
+2
Why don’t the organizations in charge of these areas just give the administration the finger.
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Etna_No_Pyroclast6 days ago
+2
I hate this orange stain. He wrecks everything for no f'ing reason.
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kuebel335 days ago
+2
these assholes just go looking for random shit to change for the worst all the time.
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rddman5 days ago
+2
'we have no healthcare but at least we can hunt bisons again'
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Low-Invite26475 days ago
+2
More pandering to the hunters for mid terms.Sadly thats all they care about.
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Ok-Part91835 days ago
+2
Sure, shoot all the animals you want, near walking trails and campgrounds. Use whatever firearm you want, hell, clean and process them in the community restrooms.
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versus_gravity6 days ago
+5
Catering to people who suck the worst at the respective things they do is this administration's entire M.O.
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ShockedNChagrinned6 days ago
+2
Is this for:
- a. population control?
- b. subsistence hunting?
- c. personal choice hunting/sport?
- d. industry use?
And will it have rangers enforcing violations?
A and B may be reasonable, C is ridiculous. D need 3rd party review for impact, waste disposal, regulation of activity.
I mean, I know this admin doesn't care at all, about anything that could impact the environment, but there are ways they could do this reasonably. They just won't.
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slayermcb6 days ago
+6
banning restrictions on shooting across trails could be classified as option A.
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mwskibumb6 days ago
+3
All these executive orders that keep getting canceled just makes me realize just how little the legislative branch is doing.
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