Trump administration signals it is mulling NATO withdrawal after Iran war

The fact that this is a pretty damn accurate representation of the state of affairs, and that the originator of that trainwreck of a concept of a thought *still* sits in the Oval Office instead of a 24/7 nursing home, is proof positive that the US is so fucked that the words to accurately reflect that have yet to be invented.

His speeches the past week or 2 included talks about NATO (he wasn’t remotely asked about it) and so he’s been trying to do this. In fact, he’s been trying to destroy NATO during his first term. Hrmmmmm. I wonder why. Hrmmmmm. Such a mystery 🙄

I’m not 100%, but this feels like it could be a direct quote.

I just assumed this was a real quote.

“And they blamed me! For protecting them…from the threat. I opened the strait. I brought peace. I brokered the ceasefire and won. I won on day one. DJT”

[Make Arcadia Great Again!](https://youtu.be/S6_Bqdfjwbc?si=JfI2-1gsJac0XY7d)

"Since we share a border, it just makes sense"

I like The Onion giving pros and cons of US leaving NATO and the first pros was "U.S. can finally join Warsaw Pact" https://theonion.com/pros-and-cons-of-u-s-withdrawing-from-nato/ As you pointed out it's extremely stupid move for America, even if he only wanted to leave because he can't use NATO as personal army, withdrawing from NATO also means that those bases in Europe will be closed. It means US no longer will have global reach. This is why I think he is a Russian agent, or maybe just extremely dumb person surrounded by agents.

> "Oh my, I don't WANT to leave NATO, but gosh darn it you just kinda forced me to do it. What's that, vlad? Join Russia ~~in a defense pact~~ *as a vassal*? Well, I don't know, it would be a hard decision, but yes, okay, sir."

US can't withdraw but can ignore any request concerning article 5. which they would do anyways under NATO hating trumpler.

Lol I keep hearing and seeing people say "trump cant do... the USA cant...." but then they keep doing it anyway. its been over a year, and still there are people like you saying this. figure it out yet? 

Haven't seen Congress stop his stupid shit once, so no reason to think they'll step in now 

There are a lot of things that Trump can't do that he did anyway. If Congress doesn't pull rank nothing will stop him.

he'll sign an EO and theyll all play along

No, he can’t withdraw. But somehow, in the whackadoodle nightmare world we now inhabit, we’ve allowed him to become the Commander in Chief of the world’s most powerful military. He can order that military into or away from anywhere he wishes. Thus he can de facto withdraw from NATO by refusing to order our military to abide by the Articles of NATO’s charter.

What about a King? Also they can totally withdraw all their troops, planes and resources and take funding to zero.

Just pieces of paper. Trump can effectively end NATO and we know Congress won't stop him.

It was clear when they treated Zelensky like that. NATO went above and beyond to help protect American interests for 20 years after 911, but the moment the threat is coming for Europe they tried to weasel out of their commitments

Stop buying American military equipment asap, build our own, invest in European tech, weapons, infrastructure, and most importantly, the people. Europe should produce everything that is critical to the safety and stability at home, and never outsource those to others. Investing in our own industry is a smart move, and we wouldn’t be beholden to others in the way we are now. Americans would be happy, because they can’t blame Europe for anything, and the rhetoric from over there makes it obvious they don’t see us as allies, or understand the stranglehold they have on Europe, which I imagine a lot of Europeans would be happy to move away from.

As a Canadian citizen, I feel the same. I believe behind the scenes our leadership is doing exactly that. The world is moving on from the U.S. whether we talk about it openly at the top levels or not. Everybody involved understands the size of the U.S. armed forces and intelligence agencies. We also understand how entwined the U.S. is with the global economy and how big a lift it will be to disentangle. But we also see how broken the US is and how a single election is the difference between democracy, sanity, respect (of alliances, agreements, commitments, etc.), decorum, evidence-based, science-backed decisions, rule of law, and progress and then in 4 years none of the above. The US is a bipolar Jekyl and Hyde on the global stage. Not only did it elect Trump twice, which says a lot about the country, but it's checks and balances were all just illusions. There's no evidence of a functioning democracy or an economy that serves anyone but the oligarchs. The U.S. appears to serve at the pleasure of billionaires/oligarchs, Russia, Israel, and others that do not operate in the interests of the greater good of the many. The US has showed the world who it is as a nation and we all believe you now. Maybe if we saw U.S. citizens in the streets, mounting a peaceful and sustained resistance every single day, demanding democracy, rule of law, upholding of your constitution, and progress that supports the good of the many over the few, we could hold out hope. You know, like Minnesota did recently with ICE? But you're all too busy blaming political parties and leaders, waiting for someone to save you, shouting from echo chambers, and giving all the reasons why it is up to someone else or not a good time to stand up for your future as your country heads for the falls with the world in tow. It looks like you all want to wait for Trump to nuke another country or fully steal an election before you act meaningfully, but the damage will be done by then and it could be too late. So the rest of the world will act like the U.S. still has a seat at the big kid table while quietly restructuring the world economy, militaries, and alliances to mitigate the potential future harm the crack-smoking, Godzilla toddler can do. Hopefully Godzilla's tiny purple fingers stay off the big red button in the meantime.

just assume we aren't until he's out of office, it's very unlikely he'll be able to make it official in anyway besides his word, not law, since that requires a super majority to be in favor. he probably will refuse to aid nato till he's out of office so will effectively leave it till he's no longer running the american military, as article 5 compels very little "support" when called if the nation doesn't want to give it.

Yeah because America has been known lately to stick to its checks and balances

the headline is wrong, the trump admin did not say it's thinking of leaving nato, they said they are thinking are shutting down their bases in nato countries

Anything to “own the libs”

Call them what they are: Fascist Party of America.

also give us the greenland now or else...

Not dumb, just morally bankrupt opportunists and grifters. Trump was looking for an excuse to leave NATO to please daddy Poots.

I never thought I'd see the day where the US would elect a dumber president than George Bush 2. By comparison to the Orange Moron, Bush is practically a wordsmith of unrivaled skill and ability. We used to think he was dumb, but Trump has thrown the bar down a ravine and into the deepest depths that I'm concerned the Americans will never recover from this. In less than 12 years we learned that the average American is even dumber than we thought, because they voted in the insane, dementia disabled, war criminal, convicted felon, dumpy trumpy. Any respect I had for America drained away during the first trump administration. And they did it again? Come on America. Do better.

Like a violence, attention addicted vampire... someone always needs to be attacked for the thirst to be sated. Life across the globe would be infinitely better, for all, if just one man decided to only play golf, sleep and eat McDonald's for 4 years straight. But nooooooooo!

Thata either the narcissist in him or the dementia. Unsure which right now.

Yep. Always attacking

I think as long as they paid him personally a lot of money he would see no problems with it.

Don’t give him ideas. I could see him suggesting that he and Claudia Sheinbaum could develop a profitable joint venture applying tariffs to the good citizens of an independent Texas. In fact he suggested, just now, that he could work with Iran to jointly charge tolls to ships transiting the Straits of Hormuz. Some clever devil suggested they call it an “Ayatollah Booth”.

Can we convince Florida as well?

He already said Cuba is next. Then probably Greenland (for some reason)?

Did he do this before or after he "mused" about invading two NATO countries?

What? I don’t think people understand the breadth of what NATO encompasses. Just the standard bodies themselves are a significant part and would be seriously impacted if the US left.

Not according to the stock market.

Iran said we already violated the ceasefire

Hello, tariffs anyone?  

I keep hearing about these barriers that are going to stop Trump from doing something, yet the things still happen.