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News & Current Events Mar 28, 2026 at 1:40 PM

Trump ‘has no military way out of war and Iran has better cards’: Experts warn 15 point peace plan is doomed to fail

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Trump has no military way out of Iran, experts warn, as 15-point peace plan rubbished
The Independent
Trump has no military way out of Iran, experts warn, as 15-point peace plan rubbished
Donald Trump maintains that both sides want to make a deal, even as Iran says otherwise. Analysts say the current plan is ‘bound to be rejected’ with the war as it stands, writes James C. Reynolds
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snokegsxr Mar 28, 2026 +928
Mar 3: "We won the war." Mar 7: "We defeated Iran." Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully." Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet." Mar 13: "We won the war." Mar 14: "Please help us." Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it." Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad." Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO." Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip -step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz" Mar 20: "NATO are cowards." Mar 21: "We don't use it, we don't need to open it." Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours." "Iran is Dead" Mar 23: "We are giving them more time." Mar 24: "The war is nearing its end." Mar 25: "We are still negotiating." Mar 26: "Iran is begging for peace. hey gave us a gift. We will give them more time." Mar 27: "Me and the Ayatollah will together run the strait of hormus" Mar 28: BULLSHIT BINGO STILL OPEN
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Special_Persimmon_52 Mar 28, 2026 +441
You know, when you lay it all out like this, our president starts to sound like he's crazy, utterly clueless, and flailing without a plan.
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Boise_is_full Mar 28, 2026 +171
He said almost all of these things in one speech in under an hour yesterday.
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Catspaw129 Mar 28, 2026 +15
Maybe he's just keeping his options open?
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Doctor_Shotbottom Mar 28, 2026 +8
Stupid is an option
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Zomunieo Mar 28, 2026 +36
“like” he’s crazy?
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Aggravating_Teach_27 Mar 28, 2026 +27
>our president starts to sound like he's crazy, utterly clueless, and flailing without a plan. "starts"? "like" >our president ~~starts to sound like he~~'s crazy, utterly clueless, and flailing without a plan. FTFY
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Lucius-Halthier Mar 28, 2026 +10
Almost sounds like this war was meant to distract from something while trying to create a casus beli to stop an election
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Doctor_Shotbottom Mar 28, 2026 +5
That’s a bingo!
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falsekoala Mar 28, 2026 +5
Dementia King strikes again. F***** just repeats the last thing told to him. I bet you can look at his statements on a day to day basis and figure out who talked to him last.
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Historian_Otherwise Mar 28, 2026 +4
Or rants about the things he can see at a desk. Paper clips. Pens.
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mok000 Mar 28, 2026 +5
Former intelligence officer Malcolm Nance says it's mental illness expressed as foreign policy.
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blue_quark Mar 28, 2026 +3
And that, madam, is the correct answer.
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ArohaWhanau Mar 28, 2026 +73
“Iran asked me to be the new Ayatollah. I said no”
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wasthatitthen Mar 28, 2026 +32
Pity. Then he could be known as the Donatella.
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Difficult-Pattern429 Mar 28, 2026 +13
I dearly wish I was still in the mood to laugh at this point because this is objectively very funny.
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SylvesterStapwn Mar 28, 2026 +26
This was wholly predictable as it’s the exact way he handled Covid. The dude has no idea how to manage in crisis.
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Doctor_Shotbottom Mar 28, 2026 +3
Dude has failed upwards his entire adult life. He has no skills or knowledge.
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Additional-Signal327 Mar 29, 2026 +3
“The dude has no idea how to manage.” FTFY. 
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FantasticBicycle37 Mar 28, 2026 +23
Add these to the list: Feb 28: Epstein headlines describe Trump raping a 13 year old girl, who bit him, then he punched Mar 1: "I hope if I bomb Iran, everyone stops talking about Epstein" Okay now over to your list, where no one mentions Epstein anymore
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mixreality Mar 28, 2026 +11
Its crazy that Ghislaine worked a deal with the government to NOT talk. And that that itself isn't a big ass story.
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ElliotNess Mar 28, 2026 +3
Does anyone even know where she is right now?
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Toomanyeastereggs Mar 28, 2026 +2
Are we talking about her or her body double?
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stasi_a Mar 28, 2026 +9
He’ll soon need to release the files to distract from the war
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Available-Trouble648 Mar 28, 2026 +2
As horrible as the crimes in the Epstein files are, they’ve already occurred. The top priority right now needs to be stopping the war before more and more people are killed.
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Glad-Process-3268 Mar 28, 2026 +8
The next debate will be "What does boots on the ground actually mean?" I predict by summer, you will have his surrogates arguing "boots aren't on the ground, it's just special forces operations," or "I don't consider boots on the ground until there is full-fledged combat."
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BarkerBarkhan Mar 28, 2026 +5
Plot twist: they'll be wearing sneakers.
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stasi_a Mar 28, 2026 +2
Special military operation sounds fun
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Doctor_Shotbottom Mar 28, 2026 +3
These people aren’t serious or capable. All they do is spend their time redefining terms. It’s not a strategy to get things done or solve problems. It’s just evasion and denial in disguise.
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djwurm Mar 28, 2026 +12
I wonder if the "gift* is Trump gets a cut of the new Hormuz transit fee that Iran is now able to impose and countries are starting to negotiate with Iran on.. With 100 to 150 ships a day when its fully open means thats a huge new revenue stream for Iran.. I know it sounds stupid and why would Iran give Trump money since he is the one attacking them but i dont know anymore cause the gifts, crypto pump and dumps, insider trading, movement of tax payer dollars to his so called peace funds, etc.. its all about how to make him and his family so much richer and bleed the coffers of the US dry
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Zomunieo Mar 28, 2026 +6
Why money? To avoid or delay invasion. It makes sense. Iran’s revenge will come years after this over. That’s just what makes sense strategically.
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Available-Trouble648 Mar 28, 2026 +7
Why would they wait? They hold the cards now and Pandora’s box has been opened. They have nothing to gain by attacking at a later point, right now the entire world understands that they’re acting in self defense. I have no love for the Iranian government but we started this and we have proven to them that we can’t be trusted. Us attacking them was the best argument for them to actually develop a nuclear weapon.
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yoss22h Mar 28, 2026 +7
There was no gift. He was lying like always and conflating one thing with something else.
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Lord_Vesuvius2020 Mar 28, 2026 +3
As weird and unlikely as this sounds it’s the best suggestion I have heard in days!
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Relzin Mar 28, 2026 +7
Can I get a bet on "The Ayatollah told me to announce it was open. " Followed by "The Ayatollah lied to us."
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readysetzerg Mar 28, 2026 +4
This will be in the history books... if the Trump regime doesn't succeed in its ambitions.
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BarkerBarkhan Mar 28, 2026 +10
Things absolutely can and likely will get worse before they get better. But I feel more hopeful now than I did a year ago. Folks are organizing, and Trump is flailing. The FBI Director can't even protect himself from email hacking. Also, while people seem to care less about "abstract" concepts like democracy and rule of law than I had hoped, they do seem to care about their money and quality of life. Unequivocally, the economy is bad and getting worse.
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Terrible-Internal374 Mar 28, 2026 +4
What ambitions? The Trump regime has no idea what they want. Their victory conditions are written in sand. They move the goalposts daily. I’m a veteran, and I can’t see what their objective is or was. Apparently we’re waiting for Trump to “feel it in his bones” - then…. Something?
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Equivalent-Excuse-80 Mar 28, 2026 +5
The ambitions of ridding themselves the hassle of going through elections.
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Terrible-Internal374 Mar 28, 2026 +2
You’re on point, but I meant in the strategic, geopolitical, military sense. The upcoming elections are definitely an event the regime is not looking forward to, and actively trying to disrupt. Consolidation of power at home is their only hope of survival. Still doesn’t address what we think we’re accomplishing in Iran…
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RiPPeR69420 Mar 28, 2026 +6
Burning up large numbers of expensive munitions that now need to be replaced, which means more money for his corporate handlers. Plus burning through a c*** ton interceptors so he can stop shipments to Ukraine, for the benefit of Russia. And removing Iran and a geopolitical rival for Israel. And many opportunities to manipulate markets and use insider information to make large amounts of money, while increasing the price of oil for the benefit of Russia. Plus a useful distraction to get the Epstein files mostly out of the news cycle, for the benefit of the more obscure oligarchs who are in them and are now in full PR spin and damage control. Toss in an excuse to institute a draft, expand executive branch powers and legally inter people in concentration camps Japanese Interment style. Quite a few accomplishments in this war.
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spiral8888 Mar 28, 2026 +2
If you're a veteran, you can probably tell us ,what were the victory conditions for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and if the US met them? Similarly to Trump, Bush also gave his Mission Accomplished speech in May 2003. By that time 139 American soldiers had died in Iraq. In the end over 4000 were dead.
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Terrible-Internal374 Mar 28, 2026 +13
I won’t defend their actions, but the Bush administration did have a strategic goal, even if it was unrealistic. They wanted a secular democratic stable government in both Iraq and Afghanistan. It was a pie in the sky dream, but at least it was consistent. I furthermore know that their missteps created ISIS and inflamed the entire region. It wasn’t a good mission. But that’s been the US since WW2. We have perfected winning virtually every battle, and still losing the wars. We’re tactically brilliant, and strategically idiotic, or at least unrealistic. This adventure in Iran is just the most blatant example of our pattern.
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spiral8888 Mar 28, 2026 +2
Thanks for your honest answer. I agree with what you said about Bush and Iraq. At least they had the pretence of there being a consistent goal and an honest casus belli. Trump doesn't even have that.
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stasi_a Mar 28, 2026 +2
He’s known for giving up power smoothly after a lost election. Right?
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the_good_time_mouse Mar 28, 2026 +4
And every f****** time, the markets responded.
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fascistno1hater Mar 28, 2026 +2
Manipulation Stream Media: BIDEN HAS MENTAL PROBLEMS!!!! Biden has a neurological problem! Sanjay Gupta Biden needs to undergo cognitive tests! 24/7 ad nauseam REPEAT REPEAT Also Manipulation Media: Trump is in the best Mental Shape! Do you see the double standards and whitewashing for the Orange Pedo?
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redditismylawyer Mar 28, 2026 +5
Clarification: does _winning_ not mean giving military contractors hundreds of billions???
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NegotiationTall4300 Mar 28, 2026 +4
Please keep compiling this bro.I would pay for a patreon for just this
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mandelbratwurst Mar 28, 2026 +3
Dude is making W’s “Mission Accomplished” sign seem like a silly boo boo.
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EternalAngst23 Mar 28, 2026 +2
Isn’t this the same guy who said he was going to pick the new ayatollah?
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eggoed Mar 28, 2026 +2
I want to believe at least a few of these quotes aren’t real. But they’re all real aren’t they.
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MassiveMulberries Mar 28, 2026 +173
The 15-point plan reads more like a business merger than a peace treaty. Experts are flagging the fact that Iran has spent decades preparing for exactly this kind of asymmetric warfare. You can't just Board of Peace your way out of a regional conflict when the other side holds the geographic high ground and a network of proxies that aren't interested in a $1 billion joining fee.
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MentalSky_ Mar 28, 2026 +73
He made up the 15 point plan and his lackeys had to come up with random things to make up 15 points 
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Notrius01 Mar 28, 2026 +12
Obama had a 15 point plan too iirc..
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PersimmonWorried2155 Mar 28, 2026 +31
Obama actually made a deal with Iran though. 
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Spamgrenade Mar 28, 2026 +14
And Trump has killed pretty much all of the moderate part of the Iranian government that made Obamas deal possible.
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Wenger_for_President Mar 28, 2026 +6
It’s like that episode of the office where Michael Scott meets with the Dundee mifflin share holders and just spouts out a 30 point plan to save the company (without any points explained except the last one, “company saved” 🤣) Cannot believe this is our world
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syrupsass Mar 28, 2026 +2
board of peace is crazy but yeah you cant just treat this like a deal and expect it to work when the whole setup is different
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Desperate-Ostrich707 Mar 28, 2026 +100
His lone goal now is to open the straight of Hormuz. Which of course it was until he bombed them on behalf of Israel, which is now facing three fronts. This is why having a business person running policy is friggin stupid. He wanted regime change and got it to an extent, (yeah, we know it’s worse) but is bombing the people that he wants to accept the change and instead rallied the entire country against the US. Plus he gets bored easily and wants to move on now that he’s screwed it all up.
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Difficult-Practice12 Mar 28, 2026 +33
Netanyahu screwed it up, I don't know what leverage he has over Trump but must be big.
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SlinkyAvenger Mar 28, 2026 +29
Israel for sure has its own copy of the Epstein files, including the ones implicating Trump.
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thewrynoise Mar 28, 2026 +5
Isn’t ghislaine Israeli or her family is?
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Jashugita Mar 28, 2026 +10
Her father was Robert Maxwell, read about him, it´s fun. spoiler: he was vital to the survival of Israel in 1948.
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Acrobatic-Ad584 Mar 28, 2026 +3
There is talk that he was Mossad
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ILikeCutePuppies Mar 28, 2026 +19
He probably told Trump his hands were normal size and that Trump is very smart.
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son-of-a-mother Mar 28, 2026 +7
Netanyahu doesn't need leverage over Trump. Trump is vain, greedy, and stupid; he has always viewed 'conquering Iran' as a powerful legacy.
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frontfrontdowndown Mar 28, 2026 +8
He’s not even a businessman. He’s three Lionel Hutzes in a low level mobster trench coat.
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bearbrannan Mar 28, 2026 +10
And when those 3 fronts turn on Israel, f*** em im tired of helping. Let them get what they've clearly been asking for.
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syrupsass Mar 28, 2026 +2
yeah its like making moves with zero long term thinking and then acting surprised when everything blows back 😭
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DescriptionCareful74 Mar 28, 2026 +30
The "15 point plan" is always the red flag. in diplomacy, the more points you have, the less likely any of them are enforceable. if you can’t get them to agree on point 1 (not blowing each other up), points 2 through 15 are just creative writing exercises. iran knows we have zero domestic appetite for another "forever war," which is the only real leverage they need. unless point 16 is "invent a time machine and don't tear up the original JCPOA," this is dead on arrival.
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buck70 Mar 28, 2026 +30
Sorry Donnie, you just don't have the cards.
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Independent-Bug-9352 Mar 28, 2026 +118
Blocking oil was the point. Boosts Russian economy. Krasnov did his job for his master.
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XSinTrick6666 Mar 28, 2026 +44
Don’t forget his Big Oil masters … War Profiteeris is why he keeps extending ‘talks’ w non-existent Iranian negotiator Trump Admin has been steady: Telling US and World to drop clean energy, EV, and Wind projects
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Independent-Bug-9352 Mar 28, 2026 +25
Yep. Every single act this administration has taken can be fully attributed to either plunder, or sabotage. Mind you, even if a well-intentioned Democratic administration comes in with Congress, to reverse course on the damage sown by this administration will take far longer than 4 years to recover from.
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der_innkeeper Mar 28, 2026 +9
And then they will get booed out of office in 2 years because nothing was magically fixed.
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giantroboticcat Mar 28, 2026 +8
Rising oil prices are good for oil companies in the short term but bad in the longterm.  The higher oil prices climb the more investment will be made into green energy in an effort to undercut the market. 
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XSinTrick6666 Mar 28, 2026 +5
True that. Also as we learned in first opec crisis: fuel demand is only short-term inelastic — demand has already begun to fall
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Lord_Vesuvius2020 Mar 28, 2026 +3
I don’t think it was Big Oil. As greedy as they are they are not so stupid that they would want to screw up Hormuz and see their own physical industry destroyed. No. I blame Trump’s stupidity most of all induced by those who would suck the US into the mother of all forever wars.
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Flamboiant_Canadian Mar 28, 2026 +2
Tbh, ConocoPhillips didn't want anything to do with Venezuela, despite having the biggest reason for wanting it. There a lot of hypothetical scenarios that Conservative governments prepare for, I deal with them regularly in Canada. We had the Carbon Tax here, and the only people that hated it were "specific" oil lobbying groups. The oil executives for that majority of our profitable oil industries actually wanted the carbon tax because it's not a bad idea. It's a consumer market and other major distributors support carbon-friendly industries.  It's all these talking heads that think they know what's best for everyone and make wildly stupid ideas that only benefit some of them. 
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monkeybawz Mar 28, 2026 +19
I love that Ukraine's response was to blow up 40% of Russia's export capacity.
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Independent-Bug-9352 Mar 28, 2026 +8
Me too! Keep at it. Though we haven't heard the last of Venezuela and its largest oil reserves in the world. Apparently Exxon is already there: https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ceraweek-exxon-says-its-team-is-venezuela-evaluating-oil-opportunities-2026-03-25/ And I still wonder if there is some shadow-fleet shenanigans going on with Venezuela and Russia, with or without US providing cover. I need to better understand that angle and how Maduro plays into all that.
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monkeybawz Mar 28, 2026 +5
You are assuming that Venezuela has the infrastructure to step up, and that anyone wants their shit quality oil.
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Independent-Bug-9352 Mar 28, 2026 +4
Though that never stopped the US from taking 97% of Canada's tar sands oil (roughly 3-4 million barrels per day), which is pretty much the same type of oil that Venezuela has. I think that's why Exxon is there, to consider an infrastructure evaluation. This is partly an Oil Industrial Complex in action, and also still may enable russia to pocket the money, if Venezuela is still ostensibly a vassal state for Putin.
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Tumble85 Mar 28, 2026 +2
The U.S is one of the only countries with the ability to refine Venezuelan oil. And when oil prices get high, that becomes more appealing. 
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eskimospy212 Mar 28, 2026 +12
The far, FAR more likely option is he saw his attack on Venezuela as a success and wanted to replicate it here based on an impulsive decision. There doesn’t need to be some grand conspiracy here - it’s just a dumb and mentally ill guy who is way out of his depth. 
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Independent-Bug-9352 Mar 28, 2026 +10
This really isn't a grand conspiracy theory though. In fact, I'd argue is actually Occam's Razor and is par for the course. - We know Trump is extremely malleable for oligarchs and foreign autocrats alike. - We know Trump desperately seeks distractions from the (a) Epstein Files, (b) ICE and BP murders of Renee Good and Alex Pretti, (c) Tanking economy and backfiring of Tariffs. We further understand that Trump is seeking to find some sort of justification to hijack or undermine midterm elections that - We know Bibi accelerated his in-person meeting with Trump ahead of these Iran strikes and exploited the desperation of Trump. - We know Putin's need for Iran has long since passed and that he benefits enormously from the oil shocks, and that Trump conveniently lifted oil sanctions within days of the opening strikes. Putin also benefits by this increased wedge-driving and fracturing of Western alliances, as well as the USA unloading its stockpiles into Iran, which means less possible for Ukraine for the years ahead. - Trump being dumb or is is irrelevant and in fact only lends credence to the argument that these lobbyists can easily praise him to get what they want, so long as they give him a little quid pro quo action in return.
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eskimospy212 Mar 28, 2026 +5
I think Occam’s razor says the dumb and impulsive guy did a dumb and impulsive thing. 
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Independent-Bug-9352 Mar 28, 2026 +5
This is not mutually-exclusive to what I wrote. Yes, a dumb and impulsive and malignant narcissist trying to escape strong evidence of r*** of children and other horrendous crimes with lots of power is exploited by more cunning psychopaths with lots of power of their own for their own ulterior motives. Big shocker there. Pretty sure we've seen this in everything from Game of Thrones, to at least a thousand times over in real life historical cases. Bystanders take note this user's attempt to deflect attention away from this. A very specific deflective vector that should raise eyebrows.
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theborgs Mar 28, 2026 +3
And as a bonus, it distracted people from the Epstein files
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zzWordsWithFriendszz Mar 28, 2026 +2
What is Israel's goals in doing this?
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Independent-Bug-9352 Mar 28, 2026 +4
First, remember that Israel were the ones who promoted Hamas over the less radical Fatah or Palestinian Authority. Every tyrant needs a foreign boogieman to rally a population around fear to trade freedom for security. Now, Bibi needs a forever war to help maintain his spot in power and delay for as long as possible the domestic criminal charges as well as the ICC charges of War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity, as well as the ongoing ICJ investigation into Israel's genocide. If this period of time elapses and he's deemed no longer needed for the security of Israel, his future is finished and he knows it. He sees Bolsonaro imprisoned; he sees Duterte jailed at The Hague. He's scared in his bunker.
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son-of-a-mother Mar 28, 2026 +2
Israel and Saudi Arabia do not want a strong Iran. They want Iran to be destabilized and in a weakened state of constant internal warfare.
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TurkVanguard Mar 28, 2026 +16
Trump’s 15‑point peace plan? More like ‘how to make war even messier 101…
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PrettyMuchAVegetable Mar 28, 2026 +14
Grok, give peace plan for Iran war, America wins, make no mistakes. 
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MarcusQuintus Mar 28, 2026 +16
Not a military or strategic genius but starting to refer to the main conflict point by your name is probably not going to win you any points with an angry adversary that calls you imperialist and egotistical among other things.
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curiousmind1011 Mar 28, 2026 +29
Trump basically gave Iran an excuse to toll booth the strait of Hormuz they’ve been salivating and instigating to get this outcome. 
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djwurm Mar 28, 2026 +13
which now means Iran has potential of creating a revenue stream worth 100s of Millions.. reports are up to 2MM per vessel nd when straits are fully open usually 100 or more ships go thru a day
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OnionSea7213 Mar 28, 2026 +2
At that cost, Saudi arabia will expand their pipelines and ports to ship from their Western and Eastern coasts eventually. There is already a pipeline (5-7million barrell rate) to the Western coast, but the port is the bottleneck so will need expanding (it's closer to Europe/Suez as well). Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain might be fucked though.
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t-stoic Mar 28, 2026 +36
Iran has literally all of the leverage. You cannot possibly think you can go into a country where the culture is "if I die in war, I have better afterlife" and expect them to not WANT to die in war. They want to either live freely or die. Trump cannot understand this concept because he doesn't believe in anything and conservative Christian's don't believe in anything either so they're just as lost. Iranians are ready to die. Literally and figuratively. The west cannot win this war.
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Quietwulf Mar 28, 2026 +2
So.. nukes then? All us know that would be utterly insane.. but you know .. \*gestures wildly\*
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we_are_sex_bobomb Mar 28, 2026 +11
Oh my god, he sucks at this so bad. How can anyone be this bad at something so important, and not get fired?
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steepleton Mar 28, 2026 +4
the shareholders voted for it
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TellTaleTimeLord Mar 28, 2026 +11
POV: You're Donald J. Trump, serial dumbass You campaign for president (again). You say you won't start any wars. You Get elected. Immediately start alienating all of the US' allies. 6 months into your term, you bomb Iran. You completely obliterate their nuclear program, mission accomplished. 13 months into your term you bomb Iran (again). You completely obliterate their nuclear program (again) and their navy (again). You announce the war is over, and you have won. Iran closes strait of Hormuz. 1 week later, War is not won. You ask your allies you spent the last 12 months shitting on for help, they tell you to get bent. Another week later, you realize you're bad at war, offer peace from the bombings you started. Iran tells you to get fucked, mission failed. Next day, shit diaper and fall asleep. There's more warmongering to be done tomorrow.
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Korgoth420 Mar 28, 2026 +9
You dont have the cards!
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SanDiegoDude Mar 28, 2026 +9
lol, 15 point peace plan. he made that shit up on the spot. Trump's only plan is to continue playing the market and eventually dump this problem on somebody else, like he does with all the other messes he makes in life.
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blue_quark Mar 28, 2026 +6
Trump simply can’t help himself. No matter what he’s told he will double and triple down on his demand for “unconditional surrender.” If and when he is forced to retreat (likely by Congressional support evaporation) he will claim that was always the plan and half of the United States will believe him.
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roughingthesuspect Mar 28, 2026 +6
For the good of the nation and the world he should pull out. Just like his father should have...
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Ok-disaster2022 Mar 28, 2026 +7
Man imagine the strategic geniuses at the "non woke" "department of war" who decided they could attack a smaller nation with a much weaker military and a month in everyone is saying they have no way to win.  Just pedo supporting morons losing to a regressive religious dictatorship. Just how bad are they. 
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ATLfalcons27 Mar 28, 2026 +20
Please do the ultimate taco please trump
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SanDiegoDude Mar 28, 2026 +4
This goat has been well fucked, I don't think walking away will be as effective as you think...
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ATLfalcons27 Mar 28, 2026 +2
Yeah I mean oil is fucked long term and that's just the start
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Dockers4flag2035orB4 Mar 28, 2026 +15
I agree, Trump should walk away now, before it gets any worse. He can Call it a win, the MAGA morons will accept it . His oligarchs henchmen will make a fortune on the market. The rest of the world knows the truth, but they don’t vote in American elections.
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TranquilSeaOtter Mar 28, 2026 +17
Yea so if Trump just walks away, Iran is not opening up the strait. They want the US to leave all Gulf states and reparations for damages. Otherwise they aren't opening up the strait. Just walking away and declaring victory like Michael Scott declares bankruptcy will solve nothing.
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SidewaysFancyPrance Mar 28, 2026 +8
> Just walking away and declaring victory like Michael Scott declares bankruptcy will solve nothing. I'd argue that leaving is a necessary first step if our goal is to open it up and get things sorta back to normal. They won't be back to normal for us. That ship has sailed, we fucked it up. We're like the drunken dude who nobody invited to the party, starting fights and breaking stuff, but won't leave when confronted and insists on trying to fix everything so he doesn't get an arrest record. But he just keeps breaking stuff. That's us. The drunk dude who won't leave and keeps breaking stuff because "he has to fix this." The dude has to *leave* before anything can begin to be cleaned up and resolved. We are *the* active, ongoing threat that is blocking the situation from being resolved and we cannot insist on being part of the solution.
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jjaime2024 Mar 28, 2026 +6
He can't walk away Israel releases everything they have on him so bad he may have to step down.
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No_Quiet_2029 Mar 28, 2026 +19
Its a truly desperate situation. IDF is claiming the army is collapsing under 900 days of war and Israel is running on the assumption that the entire US stockpile of interceptors are theirs for the taking which could be extinguished in months and suddenly tel aviv is actually in an existential crisis. They underestimated Irans ability to project power and over estimated the US ability to protect them. Theres just so much permanent damage across the board. The middle east, US is looking more and more like a paper tiger by the day, and our relationship with countries that assumed they were under the protection of US are starting to contemplate alliances elsewhere.
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XSinTrick6666 Mar 28, 2026 +8
and … OOPS they didn’t know Krasnov was serving so many masters! Trump reinvigorating russia = increasing russian reliance on blocked straits, and willingness to supply iran. … and now HOUTHIS require interceptor defense… who knew? DOH! Heaven forbid Israel should feel the daily terror they’ve inflicted on neighbors for decades!
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The_Reverend_Dr Mar 28, 2026 +14
I think Trump and Netanyahu, personally (not the US and Israel) owe reparations to Iran. If there were a civil case in a court of law, these two guys would be 100% liable for the damage they caused. You break it, you by it.
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JackBurton___Me Mar 28, 2026 +6
Add another historic blunder to Trump’s resume
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SpatulaWholesale Mar 28, 2026 +9
Think about Iran+Russia, rather than Iran alone. The US is relieving sanctions on both Russia and Iran so they can sell their oil. Win for them. Loss for us. The US is reducing support for Ukraine, possibly diverting munitions. Win for them. Loss for us. The US is collapsing the oil and other supply chains, along with the world economy. Win for them. Loss for us. The entire Republican party is sitting on their hands while their rich doners see their investments reduce and their business suffer. How the rich doners aren't screaming at them on their phones is a mystery. It's not that Trump's plan isn't working. It's that he has no plan. He doesn't seek the advice of strategic military experts. He only has reactions and feelings, and the performance of his businesses show that, well, those don't serve him well. What a shit show.
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theborgs Mar 28, 2026 +4
Knowing Trump has the temper of a toddler, I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to use a nuke again Iran...
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an_agreeing_dothraki Mar 28, 2026 +4
did he even say "Thank you"?
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joe_dirty365 Mar 28, 2026 +4
How much every day are we spending on this bullshit war??? F*** Trump, f*** maga, f*** Republicans, assholes the lot of em
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SFM_Hobb3s Mar 28, 2026 +8
If it weren't for the catastrophic affect this war is having with our global economies I would like to just sit back and laugh at Trump for making what might be historically recognized as the dumbest move ever made by a human being. And he'll just make the situation worse by repeatedly doubling-down, because that is all he knows. I predict it will eventually get so bad, that Europe and the rest of us will say 'Enough is enough' and will actually have to get involved. By sending ships to the Persian Gulf to protect Iran from further US aggression.
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cromulent-facts Mar 28, 2026 +2
Gallows humour is frequently used as a coping mechanism by people facing death, and those who care for them like medical professionals. Purity tests (e.g. "you shouldn't laugh at that") aren't helpful.
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Another_View2021 Mar 28, 2026 +6
Trump, like putin, is too proud to back out in the face of mounting losses. There's a reason that Proverbs 16:18 rings true, thousands of years later... "Pride comes before a fall" - excessive arrogance or overconfidence leads to mistakes, mistakes lead to destruction or a significant downfall, and warns that humility is preferred.
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ActionJacksonATL24 Mar 28, 2026 +3
The words “Trump” and “failure” are synonyms.
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Available-Elk-452 Mar 28, 2026 +3
pete headcase is another madman.
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retosfa Mar 28, 2026 +2
Trump's \"plan\" is just rebranded maximum pressure with extra steps. Iran knows he blinks first every time. obama's deal actually had teeth till he nuked it.
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Thin-Discipline1673 Mar 28, 2026 +2
So the same plan as shit head gave to Ukraine, just subbing in Israel for Russia and Iran for Ukraine. Maybe Iran would like some paint by number paintings to go with that great proposal.
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mollila Mar 28, 2026 +2
>Iran has better cards Now that's how journalism should be.
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barnibusvonkreeps Mar 28, 2026 +2
Why am I pulling for Iran here?! Their oppressive regime is disgusting, but under Trump the US is heading for much worse. Raping children is now ok with at least 50% of Americans now. For me that's wayyy more disgusting than the oppression that occurs in Iran. Even Iran condemns pedophilia.
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bigbucksnowhamies Mar 28, 2026 +2
Have all the GOP Republicans send their of age male children to fight this war that they are adamant was necessary! Additionally—Have Donald John Trump send all his male children of age to war as well. This is their war.
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Oceanbreeze871 Mar 28, 2026 +2
He sends troops in it’s gonna get 10x worse with massive casualties.
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dth1717 Mar 28, 2026 +2
We know. The only way out is to pull out entirely
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gdex86 Mar 28, 2026 +2
Mossad played trumps ego in thinking this be a quick in and out and left him with no options but push through abd commit us ground forces to do Israel's dirty work or take a hit to his ego by pulling out.
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AusTex2019 Mar 28, 2026 +2
Yeah like there is anyone who is not in the military who did not know this. Every one of those beribboned ass clowns surrounding Trump should have resigned rather than take part in another stupid waste of human life. That they did not doesn’t make them patriots, it makes them complicit in violations of the Geneva Convention. They should all face court martial the minute this parade of stupid is over. Who knows maybe Trump will blame them first.
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airrows77 Mar 28, 2026 +2
What choice does the world have? They all count on oil from this part of the world. What part of checkmate don't you understand? Slow to realize maybe? Some people might still want to die, we'll have to wait for common sense to sink in.
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No_Apartment3941 Mar 28, 2026 +2
Maybe they can hire Ukraine to fight it. They would do much, much better.
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seeker317 Mar 28, 2026 +2
The straight was open and according to reports Iran offered to give up all its uranium before trump attacked them. Now that’s what he wants and can’t get it.
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MisterWanderer Mar 28, 2026 +2
So is this when Iran gets to yell at us for not saying thank you?
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San_Pentolino Mar 28, 2026 +1
will his beloved putler help him out? Quien sabe maybe sending more drone&operators to Iran?
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QueenOfSplitEnds Mar 28, 2026 +1
4-D Chess.
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XSinTrick6666 Mar 28, 2026 +1
Strait named Trump will be granted at and below seabed depth. Iran will invite Trump to inaugural celebration.
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ctguy54 Mar 28, 2026 +1
That’s ok because the white house already said that this wasn’t a plan or their idea. Further into the quagmire.
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illuminaughty1973 Mar 28, 2026 +1
Its taco time folks!
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wolfhavensf Mar 28, 2026 +1
It already has
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Ok-Annual50 Mar 28, 2026 +1
But he did have a way out of Vietnam. BONE-SPURS
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Ok-Annual50 Mar 28, 2026 +1
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usrlibshare Mar 28, 2026 +1
How any US american could still believe that Iran gives a flying fart about what the US wants or proposes or demands or claims, is beyond me. ***Why would they listen to anything?*** - They didn't start this war. - They are in control of one of the single most important trading routes on Earth. - They control a shitton of oil, and control the flow of much more still (also of much more than just oil). - Their opponent has no allies left - Their opponent cannot afford a prolonged war and was already in a deep economic crisis even before deciding on this attack - They are unassailable on the ground. 600,000 men stabding army, 350,000 more in reserve, almost 1M men under arms. And whos gonna attack them? The nation that spent 4 presidencies and trillions of dollars to replace the Taliban with the Taliban? Also, fun fact: All that's currently, at least on paper, propping up the Economy, is the "AI" "Boom". Let's firget the many many many problems with that for a moment, and think about all those datacenters that are supposed to be built for that. Thise things need power. Far more than the grid can provide. The "solution"? Behind-the-meter gas turbines on premise. Which need LNG. Let's see, can we figure out a where 20% of the worlds supply of LNG flow through?
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mpw-linux Mar 28, 2026 +1
The best way to end this War is to get rid of Trump. Iran has all the 'Cards.
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BThasTBinFiji Mar 28, 2026 +1
God. I'm so f****** sick of America 
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WomenTrucksAndJesus Mar 28, 2026 +1
Barron Trump called me and said he's dying to be put on the front lines! Why the holdup? He assured me that he doesn't have any bone spurs. Send Barron on a fast track path to combat right now!
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Intel-Source Mar 28, 2026 +2
Brain spurs.
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FantasticBicycle37 Mar 28, 2026 +1
It appears Trump has a successful military way out of Epstein headlines, so he's winning it.
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puppyyawn Mar 28, 2026 +1
Even if they sign the best, biggest, most perfect peace plan. The issue is, Trump could get in a pissy mood the next day and tear up the agreement for fun. He's known for changing things and not keeping his word.
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Komikaze06 Mar 28, 2026 +1
My bet is either we stay for years or we just up and leave and say we won. In a normal world this would be grounds for his removal and the US would be a laughing stock. In our current world I bet he'll get a made up award/statue and we'll still be a laughing stock.
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Fidel_Costco Mar 28, 2026 +1
I think everyone figured it was a ~~faint~~ feint to calm the markets and profit off them, and move more soldiers to the region.
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brokeboipobre Mar 28, 2026 +1
But I thought we won already? Trump said it many times!
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lazy_phoenix Mar 28, 2026 +1
But America has Israeli political campaign contributions. It doesn’t help in war but it explains why America is in the war.
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Comfortably-Numb2026 Mar 28, 2026 +1
Concepts of a plan
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Browns45750 Mar 28, 2026 +1
Loved looking at my my 401k this morning and see the 4 percent beat down it has taken , maga where do I send my claims for reimbursement for this, since your no new wars guy has cost me a lot of money
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SameBodybuilder3263 Mar 28, 2026 +1
Why doesn’t this idiot just leave? Even he knows that Netanyahu and his even crazier government should be fighting their own war, on their dime.
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soraku392 Mar 28, 2026 +1
He can't even count to 15
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InFearn0 Mar 28, 2026 +1
The only peace plan Iran will accept is: 1. Unconditional surrender by USA and Israel 2. Extradition of Trump, Netanyahu, and associated cabinet-level officials to Iran for trial. Basically everyone involved with deciding to attack Iran has to be removed from power. 3. War guilt reparations to rebuild what was destroyed in Iran. 4. Normalization of relations. 5. Guarantees that this won't happen again (which would require the dismantlement of Israel) So there is no peace plan that will be offered that Iran will accept.
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andy_nony_mouse Mar 28, 2026 +1
Please correct me for sounding ignorant, but can’t he just end offensive operations? We don’t have any boots on the ground there. So just stop bombing them and declare it done. Yes the strait are closed and we will have to put up with intermittent missile attacks on our bases but it’s certainly not like we’re stuck in a quagmire with 1 million troops and unable to get out.
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Intel-Source Mar 28, 2026 +2
You don't understand! Netanyoohoo would be mad at him!
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havenoir Mar 28, 2026 +1
Look - the 82nd airborne has been activated and we have nearly 10K marines in theater or on the way. Looks like war’s on the menu boys
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KiLLiNDaY Mar 28, 2026 +1
The plan 9/10 was made by Israel to not end the war. Trump is just the errand boy at this point
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OG-BoomMaster Mar 28, 2026 +1
Doomed to fail, whoever saw that coming? /s
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Positive_Chip6198 Mar 28, 2026 +1
Trump has no cards.
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Transitmotion Mar 28, 2026 +1
Remember when Trump berated Zelensky in the Oval Office for the world to see because Ukraine "had no cards"?
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FrostyMatters Mar 28, 2026 +1
It's a 15-point plan, 1 point per day. 15 day 15 point plan to get the Strait of Hormuz open again!
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al_swedgen01 Mar 28, 2026 +1
Wow, those experts are geniuses. Would never have guessed a trump "plan" was doomed
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oxymoronian Mar 28, 2026 +1
Someone just give him a trophy already and let's get done with this insanity.
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RunningonGin0323 Mar 28, 2026 +1
Michael Scott had a better 30 point plan to turn around Dundee Mifflin
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BrownWrinkles Mar 28, 2026 +1
I wouldn't be entirely shocked if he gave a nod to Israel to n\/ke them. The simpleton has no damn clue what he's doing.
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_ianisalifestyle_ Mar 28, 2026 +1
It's wishful, but I'd like to see affected countries of the world sue the USA for failures in its political system (including separation of powers) leading to global loss and damages. F*** the USA and its generationally corrupt leaders.
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Humble-Translator-88 Mar 28, 2026 +1
This guy can't even pay people for doing construction work on his house. He is a rapist and just wants to dominate anything, he will never give in to anything and will claim its power. The absolute worst person to be leading this country because racists couldn't accept some gay people in the tv shows.
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PermaDerpFace Mar 28, 2026 +1
What a moron
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zapitron Mar 28, 2026 +1
Trump's biggest success with Iran will be when he talks them down from hyuge 3 trillion dollars in reparations, to only a meager 4 trillion dollars.
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JoeHatesFanFiction Mar 28, 2026 +1
Trump really has two options, neither being politically palatable. The first is to really invade and start another middle eastern war. The other is to make massive concessions and look weak. Considering how much image matters to him I think we’re gonna see an invasion of some sort 
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AusToddles Mar 28, 2026 +1
He'll get out of this war by creating a new one
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rgvtim Mar 28, 2026 +1
So your saying he's an idiot, that's not new.
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BritTheBret Mar 28, 2026 +1
I heard it’s really only a 12 point plan.
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adibork Mar 28, 2026 +1
What’s the name of the Legal Form for getting someone committed?
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123_fake_name Mar 28, 2026 +1
Just like he fixed the war in Ukraine! And won a peace prize for it.
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strangedazey Mar 28, 2026 +1
The definition of f*** around and find out
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LockNo2943 Mar 29, 2026 +1
Because nothing the US has ever suggested under him has been about compromise; they're just sending another list of demands and expecting something to change. 
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