Trump says Iran ceasefire is 'on life support' after rejecting Tehran's counter proposal

At this point, it won't even be a surprise attack.

Yeah, we know. Don't worry, everyone. They'll "seen an end to the Iran War" after "promising peace talk developments" by this Friday.

Was there ever actually a cease fire? I'm believing no.

Trump only has one move and that’s to threaten cataclysmic and mutually destructive action if he doesn’t get his ways. Because he’s had a power advantage his entire life (first being rich and screwing over the working class) and later as president that has almost universally worked. This time though, he started a war he had NO intention of continuing to try to distract from Epstein and get a big win. He didn’t expect Iran to dig in and escalate (but he should have), so he didn’t have any plans for if they didn’t capitulate. It’s why he keeps making the same threats over and over again even though they clearly don’t do anything. Now his options are continued bombing, which will result in the strait being mined and shut down for probably months even after the conflict ends, a ground offensive (which results in the same but with a lot of casualties), or maybe a nuclear bomb. The nuclear bomb is the most terrifying because we don’t really come back from that. In WW2, there weren’t really norms concerning nukes, but its been argued and many agree that given the nature of threat Japan presented and the risk of Japanese and American lives being lost by continuing a ground invasion or sustained bombing, it was a lesser of two evils. The US not using nukes in Korea and later in Vietnam, and the Soviet’s not using them in Afghanistan created a standard that barring a truly existential threat, we don’t use nukes and both sides abide by that. Russia didn’t use nukes on Ukraine even after the offensive became way more costly than they considered and sanctions put a bid dent in their economy. The absolute worst outcome of this war, even worse than total capitulation and Iran becoming a nuclear power who controls the strait, is if Trump uses a nuke. This was a war of choice we started. Our war goals at this point seem to be restoring the status quo from before the war. If we drop nukes in this war, even ignoring the pointless loss of innocent life that immediately causes, it normalizes the use of nukes. If we drop a nuke on Iran, within a couple years we won’t be the only country to have used nukes in a war and the genie doesn’t go back in the bottle. This war has also cemented my hate for multiple Trump voters. I get being tricked in 2016. Obama made a lot of promises, and only really partially delivered. The benefits of those programs were mostly found in cities, and the country got left behind. They had decades of both parties promising to help, and not. Then they had a political outsider who said a lot of what they believe, spoke to them in a way no one else had, confidently promised he had solutions for them and didn’t really fit into either party. I get why people fell for it in 2016. Then we saw 4 years of Trump where he was needlessly cruel. Didn’t deliver on ANY of his promises (especially promises about bringing jobs back), and was generally ineffective, endlessly decisive, and harmful. After the first term, there is no benefit of the doubt. People saw Trump and still voted for him. They can say they only voted for X or Y, but at the end of the day they chose Harris/ or Trump and chose Trump. They don’t get any grace or understanding. They chose this, and honestly when democrats are out of office, in a fair world we wouldn’t bail out the farmers who lost everything because of Trump’s policies. We will because they’re Americans and we care about them, but in a just world they would have to live with the collective political decisions and the consequences of the same.

Break it 3 days before the China trip. A real 4D chess move from the grandmaster.

This is planting season. This will impact fertilizer and diesel availability used by farmers. Expect significantly reduced crops by harvest time. Food prices will rise and some places will be hit with famine. All because the American people elected a fool to the Presidency. Twice!

Hey remember when everything was fine 2 months ago? We do.

Trump makes noise pretty much sums up all those Trump says headlines at this point.

Calling it a ceasefire at this point feels generous. If one side is rejecting proposals and openly saying it has a 1% chance of surviving, it sounds more like a temporary pause before the next escalation.

another article that boils down into "nothing changed"

anyone notice what a ridiculous clusterfuck the USA is?

Better get started on the Congressional authorization to resume the war then.

This is what full blown dementia + a man who can’t make a deal look like.

I feel as though it is becoming obvious that this war is only for stock market manipulation and the benefit of the elite. You may be saying, "No shit Sherlock, that's what all wars are for", but this is different. No real goal. Previous wars may have been laughably misguided, but the narrative was at least clear and consistent. There is doccumented proof that minutes before the announcements, large trades are made that only benefit the transaction after Trump makes said announcement. It is blatant market manipulation that is making a lucky few into billionaires every week, meanwhile the American public remains upset, but overall flacid, or in some cases in support of the war. Nobody will ever face justice for any of these actions, which is already upsetting given previous wars that demand justice, but this is blatant, brazen manipulation without even the slightest bit of narrative or explanation.

Im honestly just waiting for the announcement that the US has turned Iran into a pile of glass and sand. I am not optimistic about this at all.

How about releasing the Epstein files.

Just another lie on a Tuesday. He’s found some new material to say so he should get to Friday with new bullshit lies.

Another week, another pump’n’dump.

This has done so much more harm than good.

The media should just stop reporting on his ramblings.

Markets will still go up!

Trump is in over his head.

Only till Friday

Can it be on life support if it was never alive in the first place?

If only this shitbag would just shut up.

"says Iran ceasefire" is a superfluous phrase that should be removed from the headline.

Two more weeks

When do I buy the dip

Liar liar pants on child rapist fire

Well tomorrow is TACO Tuesday.

Monday Market Manipulation. They really are stealing *all* of our money. They will leave nothing for parks or hospitals or even the courts.

Art of the deal

He is literally talking to himself and answering his own questions

It's a shame he isn't.

Next week it will be 'on deaths door'. Then on 'secret life support', then 'super secret probation life support'. Then it will be 'nobody's made a decision this bad since the Germans bombed pearl harbor'.

So this is rapidly turning into America's version of a "special military operation in ukraine"

The counter proposal should have been: "Kiss my ass and call it love."

Only 32 more months of this douchebags demolition derby of our country…If he decides to allow a presidential election.

Dude just wants to have "nuked a country" on his name and he isnt hiding it anymore.

It's your approval rate that's on life support if you don't get your leg out of the neon-flashing bear trap you skipped into.

What day is it tomorrow?

First 60 days expired -> mission success. Now the clock can reset and they can spew bs about Iran and continue attacking because we gotta distract from those Epstein files

Oh, it's Monday. Thank you Donald. 

Week 10, do I hear 11...

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Trump is pushing a rope.

bla bla bla. When will trade be open AND safe again? then add 18 MONTHS after that for gas prices to go back to the same levels at the start of this year. SO this year AND next - food prices will SUCK with 0 fix. As in, any fix will take longer. Lots of fixes possible, but does nothing for this year and next years harvest. And that is if it was all AOK today... so... shit.

The great denegotiator at work again!

Zakaria nailed it this weekend… when playing chicken, the side with the most to lose will always win.

We just need to wait until Friday after markets close and ceasefire will miraculously be back

TRUMP is on life support. They are literally propping him up medically.

This is going to last for months with the odd clash here and there, negotiation proposals from both sides sent back and forth with no agreement reached. Both sides believe they can outlast each other for different reasons, what that means for us is expect higher gas prices and higher food prices into next year as the US and Iran choke the strait.

Yes but the life support machines were never plugged in.

Trump: Demilitarise and give up nuclear weapons and give us full control of the strait! Iran: no, leave Middle East! None of the demands will be met. We will be out of fuel by July. 

Tehran should offer to abide by all Trump's demands if he releases ALL the Epstein files.

Can somebody reminds grandpa that he has no say in the matter? Iran hold him by the balls and theres nothing he can say or do

This whole ”excursion”: A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury. Signifying nothing.