The Iran Parliamentary Speaker literally said the deal is off and the Strait is closed. Both Iran and Pakistan said America “explicitly violated the deal” by Israel bombing Lebanon.
Satellites and shipping trackers prove the Strait is officially closed. And yet……no American media is reporting on this.
What in the f*** is going on?
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DDRaptors2 days ago
+108
Welcome to the propaganda battle of the war.
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ConfederacyOfDunces_2 days ago
+60
Trumps latest truth social tweet:
“Our military is loading up and resting, looking forward, actually, to its next conquest”
13 Soldiers actually died This is all a game to him. What the f***.
Meanwhile, Americans are all broke stateside. He hasn’t done anything domestically.
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dhaliman2 days ago
+19
Let’s not forget the 1000s of civilians and billions of dollars worth of damage to civilian infrastructure.
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SSGASSHAT2 days ago
+11
He hasn't done any good domestically. He's done plenty of bad, though.
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shorelined2 days ago
+5
Has he actually even mentioned the dead troops yet? What a nutcase
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redditobserverone1 day ago
+1
Hey MAGA did you all know you voted for conquests, plus high gas and grocery bills? Well done.
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sbrunei2 days ago
-32
dont blame DJT for broke people. broke people is broke because they are lazy.
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altonbrushgatherer2 days ago
+1
Can't propaganda your way out of this at the pumps/check out counter.
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Xollector2 days ago
+27
It’s wait for Thursday and Friday syndrome to escalate, and then escalate again Friday after close, then TACO Monday night or Tuesday morning
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TheRiverOtter2 days ago
+3
A new meaning for “Weekend Warrior”.
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ShadowCaster04762 days ago
+21
This is what happens when you lose an independent media.
Billionaires scratching backs.
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big_samosa2 days ago
+14
They were planning on manipulating markets till Friday at close, but things didn’t go according to plan, so they’re waiting till tomorrow 5 minutes after they’ve dumped their positions to give the all clear to their media holdings that articles on the ceasefire failing can be posted now.
Nice little manufactured onboard for oil stocks yesterday, can’t wait to make another ~%15 sometime tmrw or Friday.
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bbby_chaltinez2 days ago
+1
not about that honestly, the drop was pre planned.
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pandababble4002 days ago
+2
The situation will have changed by the time the article is published.
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WaylanderII2 days ago
+6
The news reports here in Australia all have an Iranian 10 point plan with point 1 being "Complete cessation of the war on Iraq, Lebanon, and Yemen."
So that's how it's being reported here but not sure of the exact source.
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doofenhurtz2 days ago
+3
I mean, my understanding from Canada was that:
A) the Pakistani pm indicated that Lebanon was included, and they're the ones mediating this thing.
B) Not including Lebanon was a non-starter for Iran. So what did the U.S. and Isreal honestly expect here?
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Flayer7232 days ago
+3
Israel doesn't want a ceasefire so they are trying to derail the whole thing.
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Anyales2 days ago
+3
How are you confused? An end to all attacks on allies was one of the 10 points in the plan.
Of course a ceasefire would include Irans allies, what sense would it he for them to agree without it?
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Anyales2 days ago
-3
Thats not how ceasefires work, also Iran and Pakistan have said Isreal is currently violating the agreement that doesn't exist and multiple US officials have confirmed it too.
The alternative to a ceasefire agreement is that the US unilaterally retreated in defeat so you look more stupid without an agreement.
You best stick to the original propoganda you were fed.
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_x_oOo_x_2 days ago
+1
Hizb'Allah is an Iranian entity though, [with deep ties to the ayatollahs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah), so while bombing Lebanon might not violate the deal, bombing HA does, in the eyes of Iran at least.
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LiteratureMindless712 days ago
+1
You think he has been honest? With this bring the point of honesty?
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Dark_World_Blues2 days ago
-7
USA and Israel both said that Lebanon was never part of the ceasefire deal.
Iran has been firing at many countries not stop for many hours after the ceasefire and have damaged civilian infrastructures in the GCC, including water and electricity plants and oil infrastructure in Kuwait, and the Saudi pipeline thay bypasses the strait of hormuz.
I know that because it is happening in my country.
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A3800852 days ago
-2
How is the US responsible for Israel bombing Lebanon and not Israel itself?
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Beerwithme2 days ago
+3
They're giving them the bloody ammunitions and go-ahead.
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AyoJake2 days ago
+14
America cant accept a deal that allows Iran to put a toll either. trump fucked up badly.
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EndOfDecadence2 days ago
+9
Sometimes its not about what you cant accept, but only about what you can't achieve. Trump doesn't have the cards.
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Orphasmia1 day ago
+1
“You're gambling with World War III" last year is so crazy given today’s context
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PhDinDildos_Fedoras2 days ago
+9
Nothing going on so far has "put Iran in a bad light". This is all on the US and Israel.
Iran is a horrible, murderous terror regime and this war has made them look like a cool Mother Teresa.
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MentokGL2 days ago
+5
Oh ya this is a much better light. I knew we bombed those children for a reason! I totally can't believe these bad faith iranians, we totally want to stop this war we started and have already said we won. Be cool dudes!
This isn't a twitter war you can win by upvotes ffs
Better light lol, grow up
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EndOfDecadence2 days ago
+2
Lol, the US cannot keep up a ceasefire deal longer then a couple of hours because they don't have a leash on Bibi, who got the US involved in this clusterf\*ck in the first place.
Its a deeply pathetic look.
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AyoJake2 days ago
+3
doesnt matter this was started by trump none of this happens if he tells bibi to f*** off.
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PapaTahm2 days ago
+77
"In the meantime our great military is Loading up and Resting, looking forward, actually, to it's, next conquest"
Please Our Lord and Savior, I know I have been Skipping prays.
But just kill this pedophile already.
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tlcdr2 days ago
+12
If prayers moved gods or kings, we'd seldom have to pray for things.
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Combat_Orca2 days ago
+4
Everyone in the states is acting like the war is over, are they just dumb or do they think because they say it it will happen?
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the_mooseman1 day ago
+6
They voted in Trump twice, i'd say it's safe to say they're pretty f****** dumb.
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Combat_Orca1 day ago
+3
They are though it’s not just the trump voters doing this
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YuppiesEverywhere2 days ago
+2
"conquest me, daddy" --- MAGAs (probably)
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Little-Chemical50062 days ago
+12
Full text
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April 8 (Reuters) - U.S President Donald Trump said all U.S. ships, aircraft, and military personnel would stay in place in and around Iran until it fully complied with a deal.
"All U.S. Ships, Aircraft, and Military Personnel, with additional Ammunition, Weaponry, and anything else that is appropriate and necessary for the lethal prosecution and destruction of an already substantially degraded Enemy, will remain in place in, and around, Iran, until such time as the REAL AGREEMENT reached is fully complied with" Trump said in a post on Truth Social on Wednesday.
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Calm_Opportunist2 days ago
+8
His full post:
>All US Ships, Aircraft, and Military Personnel, with additional Ammunition, Weaponry, and anything else that is appropriate and necessary for the lethal prosecution and destruction of an already substantially degraded Enemy, will remain in place in, and around, Iran, until such time as the REAL AGREEMENT reached is fully complied with," he said in a post on Truth Social.
>If for any reason it is not, which is highly unlikely, then the 'Shootin' Starts,' bigger, and better, and stronger than anyone has ever seen before.
>It was agreed, a long time ago, and despite all of the fake rhetoric to the contrary — NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS and, the Strait of Hormuz WILL BE OPEN & SAFE.
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DDRaptors2 days ago
+23
> It was agreed, a long time ago, and despite all of the fake rhetoric to the contrary — NO NUCLEAR WEAPONS and, the Strait of Hormuz WILL BE OPEN & SAFE.
Ya, a long time ago, by Obama.
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JustWordsSnowflake2 days ago
+2
I feel like I’m starting to forget about something else….dang it! Something about files or something…. I wish I’d remember what it was….it’ll come back. I know it!!
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mencretdimulut2 days ago
+9
i cannot see a condition where Iran would agree with this deal
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ILoveTheAtomicBomb2 days ago
+11
The ceasefire really worked out eh? I’m betting he goes after Cuba in tandem because everyone still wants to see the Epstein files
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jvo2032 days ago
+5
Apparently it's Greenland now. Cuba gets a temporary reprieve.
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ILoveTheAtomicBomb2 days ago
+3
F*** it, he’ll go both at the same time. What’s war with 3 countries?
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Master_Muskrat2 days ago
+3
I'm pretty sure that would be a whole lot more than just three countries.
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jvo2032 days ago
+2
Perhaps even four. Canada is waiting in the wings.
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PapaTahm2 days ago
+3
I wonder if he is going to Brazil and Colombia after that, or he just plan to coup them since, these 2 are having elections.
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copperblood2 days ago
+8
Looks like oil at $150 a barrel is a very real thing again.
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unevenvenue2 days ago
+29
Epstein Files or bust.
This man has no idea what he is doing and he will get away with everything, as long as the world attention keeps shifting from one action to the other.
This man is unfit to be your uncle. This man is unfit to be near children. This man is unfit to be a businessman. This man is unfit for the presidency.
What are we DOING
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Marodvaso2 days ago
+8
He had everything delivered to him on a golden platter from the start - a heir to a billionaire in the richest country on the planet, in the golden age of humanity.
The opportunities he had, the good he could have done....
Or at least he could have just enjoyed life with all that money, literally by stashing it in some unmanaged index fund or real estate...
Instead he became one of the most revolting, disgusting human beings in history. As close to the Christian conception of the Antichrist as we have ever come close to. It's truly incredible.
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Mike-SBA2 days ago
+5
How long did we “stay around” Vietnam once LBJ increased our military presence ? Why aren’t Republicans screaming about the trillions this is costing ? They wouldn’t wait this long without an impeachment. How about the tax cuts given to millionaires and billionaires (at least $7 trillion) ? Why aren’t we canceling those cuts to pay for Trump’s war ?
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balooaroos2 days ago
+5
But then what are you waiting for? The strait isn't open. They've called your bluff and nothing happened. Repeating the same bluff some more after it failed isn't much of a strategy.
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PhDinDildos_Fedoras2 days ago
+2
You keep saying that word "strategy" as if the party involved understood the concept. Like shouting "Nietzche" at a dog.
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tlcdr2 days ago
+5
My dog could sit through me reading it Nietzsche with more focus than the collective attention span of the executive branch.
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AntitheistArchangel2 days ago
+4
The thing is, there hasn’t been a deal, at least not much of one. We aren’t bombing Iran anymore, and they’re not attacking us, but the strait is still largely closed.
EDIT: Trump also said the military will be looking forward “to its next Conquest” (capitalization original). That’s quite the Freudian slip.
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Most-Round-41322 days ago
+4
you can only bluff so many times, trump is like 10x past that point
get it done or stfu old taco
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pre_pun1 day ago
+2
Oh so we didn't win or are close to anything.
Glad Trump has time to post shitty revenge novels and gore videos during the war he started and can't focus on or fix.
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WardenEdgewise2 days ago
+3
Absolute insanity. He is completely mentally insane. He is a serious psychological disorder. How can they allow him to stay in office?
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PhDinDildos_Fedoras2 days ago
+3
Insane paedo is about as American as apple pie.
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PaleInTexas2 days ago
+2
So... decades? Forever?
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My_alias_is_too_lon2 days ago
+2
This is never going to end, is it?
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ghostbannomore2 days ago
+3
Well, why would you do anything else, such a f****** stupidly unnecessary comment.
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thecloakofignorance2 days ago
+2
what forkin' deal????
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_x_oOo_x_2 days ago
+2
So, until the mid-2040's then?
Is this Vietnam 5.0?
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CunningBear2 days ago
+2
Like a bookie with gamblers. Or a pimp looking to beat his hookers.
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gumnamaadmi2 days ago
+2
Basically proving what Iran says. They cannot negotiate with a man whose words are not worth the toilet paper they are written on.
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Royal-Hunter38922 days ago
+3
How is US planning to pay for the reconstruction of damages caused ,It is one of the points US has agreed right ? As part of the deal .
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Saint_Steve2 days ago
+4
Pakistan, who acted as a mediator in getting the ceasefire agreed has stated officially that the US agreed to a ceasefire in the region specifically including lebanon. So the US knew that this was a sticking point for Iran and let Israel do this anyway. Why the hell would Iran stick to the ceasefire after that?
If youre looking for bad-faith actors look at Israel.
Also, according to Iran, Pakistan AND Trumps f****** tweets, Irans 10 point plan was agreed to as the basis for negotiations. Yeah, it doesnt mean that Trump agreed to everything there, but he apparently agreed to negotiate from there.
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Saint_Steve2 days ago
+3
... what are you angry about, you have literally agreed with what i said.
"We recieved a 10 point plan and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate"
Is them literally saying that they were going to use irans 10 point plan as the basis for negotiations, which is the SAME THING as "agreeing" to use the 10 point plan as the basis for negotiations.
Im getting big "she didnt break up with me! She just said she didnt want to see me again and kicked me out, and i said okay! So it was mutal!" vibes from you.
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tlcdr2 days ago
+1
America is a malding incel
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Royal-Hunter38922 days ago
+1
Thanks for the clarification,
I also read something not sure if it is true but I had read that different version of points were shown to each side as deception to make them stop.
Like US gave their points to pakistan but they showed completely different points to Iran and Vice versa .
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rhino3692 days ago
+2
Regardless, none of the points were agreed to. They agreed to discuss them at the negotiations.
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Royal-Hunter38922 days ago
+2
So why the confusion over Lebanon ? . Somebody is definitely lying .US and Israel says lebanon isn't part of the deal , other side says part of the deal .
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goldybear2 days ago
+1
Get ready to hear Fortune Son every day for the next 25 years.
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