Only if the King is nice to him and tell him he is the best President ever though....
Otherwise we will get a temper tantrum and be told how weak the king is.
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Somhlth2 days ago
+80
Only afterwards. Trump was famous for meeting with Trudeau and not having the balls to say anything until he got in his plane and started rage tweeting. That's his go to if someone isn't kissing his fat ass.
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Yelworc02422 days ago
+21
He doesn't understand that the king has zero actual power.
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gleipnir844622 days ago
+16
I mean, on paper the king does have power, but in practice any move by the king to influence politics would be ignored at best, and trigger a constitutional crisis at worse. Trump is not likely to know the difference between theoretical power and actual power.
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melody-calling2 days ago
+7
the king meets with the prime minister every week with no witnesses present and I’ll bet you they don’t discuss the weather
7
jimicus2 days ago
+33
They’re British.
If there is one discussion I absolutely guarantee they’re having, it’s about the weather.
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Vio_1 day ago
+3
"I suggest you stick to two subjects: the weather and your health."
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Killboypowerhed2 days ago
+1
It's no secret that chuck has met with politicians behind closed doors and influenced them
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DFWPunk1 day ago
-1
That's not the same as having power. Politicians are influenced by all sorts of people.
-1
Jonestown_Juice1 day ago
+6
Trump doesn't know how the American system of government works. He damn sure doesn't know how the UK's works.
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Protean_Protein1 day ago
-4
The King is literally the equivalent of the President in certain ways, in Canada at least—Head of State. The Prime Minister of Parliament rules at the behest of the monarch, who can, technically, dissolve parliament.
-4
Ortsarecool1 day ago
+2
"technically" is doing **a lot*" of work in that sentence
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Protean_Protein1 day ago
+1
No it isn’t. The Governor General is literally the Monarch’s representative, and has that power.
1
Ortsarecool1 day ago
+2
Yes. He is. What do you think happens if they ever actually try to exercise that power?
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ItsMeAstra1 day ago
+2
Trigger a constitutional crisis leading to an election.
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Protean_Protein1 day ago
+1
The practical norms are there so long as people abide by them. Recent history has shown that democratic institutions held up by norms are beholden to the whims and good faith of those in power. Going all the way back to Thomas Hobbes’ (apparent, but not clearly anti-democratic) criticism of the English Revolution, we’ve had to contend with the fact that Sovereign power depends not merely on a tacit social contract, but on the teeth and will to enforce the law.
So yes, there are practical realities we live with that make parliamentary monarchs effectively toothless. But that isn’t guaranteed.
Hell, Russia’s post-Soviet descent into totalitarianism was built on the back of a constitutional Republic with term limits and everything.
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gleipnir844621 day ago
Again, that's all theoretical power. Yes, he is technically head of state, and yes he does, on paper, have the power to dissolve parliament, refuse to acknowledge a prime minister, or even refuse to give assent for legislation, but in practice, any attempts by the king to do these things would likely see the royal family ousted completely.
So while the king is the head of state in name, the defacto head is the PM, as the king cannot go against parliament without causing a constitutional meltdown. In reality, the king is a glorified ambassador these days, albeit a damn good one, and the source of much of Britain's soft power around the world.
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Protean_Protein1 day ago
-2
No, it’s not theoretical. It is literal.
-2
samuraipanda852 days ago
+3
It doesn't matter. He hears the King and if that guys praises him than Daddy might finally love Donald.
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Heisenberg_2351 day ago
+1
Would require more than half a dozen brain cells for that
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JaVelin-X-2 days ago
+5
And then During the speach he'll say "the king kissed his ass. When Everyone said the king never would"
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Protean_Protein1 day ago
+2
Maybe he’ll have some high priced consorts who can pee on him or something. 🙄
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Oldestswinger2 days ago
+2
He loves to meet other kings
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MisterBlisterKisser2 days ago
+18
Dump is a dictator not a king. Don’t ever put him in the same class as King Charles.
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caitnicrun2 days ago
-16
Is this the same king with the nonce for a brother? Sounds like exactly the same class.
-16
MisterBlisterKisser2 days ago
+20
The King is not responsible for his brother’s actions. I am speaking solely about King Charles. If Dump were meeting with Andrew you’d have a point but he’s not. He’s meeting King Charles.
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BixbySn7der2 days ago
-9
He is not responsible for Andrew's crimes. But he knew for years what his brother was up to.
-9
MisterBlisterKisser2 days ago
+2
You expect blood to turn against blood?
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TheDylorean2 days ago
+6
If the family member is doing something illegal and you are in a position of power meant to uphold the rule of law, yes.
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MisterBlisterKisser2 days ago
+3
That’s not how reality works.
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caitnicrun2 days ago
+2
So you're saying if you learned a family member was molesting children you would NOT turn them in?
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mob191512 days ago
+3
Yes wtf
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MisterBlisterKisser2 days ago
+3
I’m not saying you shouldn’t turn in a family member. I’m saying it’s unrealistic to expect a person to turn on their family member. I bet a lot of crimes throughout history have been covered up due to family loyalty.
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LittleSchwein12342 days ago
+6
It isn't the King's fault that his brother is a shithead, is it?
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-7
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caitnicrun2 days ago
-1
Ah, nothing like a bit of the ol racism.
And it's the North of Ireland!
😛
-1
MisterBlisterKisser2 days ago
+1
Not on any map I’ve seen. And since when is Irish a race?
I’m Canadian and very pro-Britain. I very much support my monarch Charles III, King of Canada.
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caitnicrun2 days ago
-1
Fair play to you. I had some respect for the queen, but let's be honest: it's not like wee Charlie actually earned his position.
- And since when is Irish a race?
Since racists hang banners like KAT.
-1
MisterBlisterKisser2 days ago
-3
The Queen didn’t earn her position either. That’s not how royalty works. It’s an hereditary bloodline.
Irish are of the white race. This was determined years ago after Americans tried to claim Irish and Italians weren’t white.
-3
caitnicrun2 days ago
+1
- The Queen didn’t earn her position either.
But she did do her bit in the war. I respect the things she's DONE, not just warming a crown for Charlie boy.
- Irish are of the white race.
Ah you're one of those gowls. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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TheSchlaf2 days ago
+1
And he wears a suit and says "thank you".
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NaughticalNarwhal1 day ago
+1
>“Bestest boy evar” *(tussles trumps hair, gets pushed down a flight of stairs)* - King
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Vio_1 day ago
+1
"You are my second American president. The first was Joe."
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Lundetangen1 day ago
+1
King Charles seem rather old and would seem absurd to think of him as Prime Minister of the UK. Then you have Trump that is 2 years older as the President of the US.
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jimmybirch1 day ago
-2
The king is weak on crime and foreign policy
-2
noir_lord2 days ago
+122
As a Brit, No it f****** won't.
Most of us aren't that happy about him even going though some of us realise that we are also exposed to the US economy/tech in ways that are near existential (that's a fuckup of the past).
This ain't gonna fix jack shit, he'll still be a war mongering felon who shits on his allies and MAGA can still f*** all the way off.
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Dashyguurl2 days ago
+14
The king is only going at the behest of the government, Trump is obsessed with the royal family and his state visit is part of the reason the UK got one of the first ‘trade deals’ offered by Trump. They’re sending the king to defuse Trump and prevent another disaster based on Trump’s stupid whims.
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Maeran2 days ago
+12
Last time the goodwill lasted 5 minutes. It is not worth the expense to play nice with Trump.
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jimicus2 days ago
+3
Because the royals represent something Trump can never be in a hundred different ways.
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DFWPunk1 day ago
+3
> They’re sending the king to defuse Trump and prevent another disaster based on Trump’s stupid whims.
It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em.
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seedless02 days ago
+7
Your king can offer TACO some phony title like Duke of Donnyville and invite him to the place to try the new gold throne, which is actually a deep dark dungeon out in nowhere...
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Dingcock2 days ago
+3
The UK doesn't have much "nowhere" left anymore, would have to be an island like Saint Helena
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jimicus2 days ago
+2
I’m struggling to see the problem with this.
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eggyal2 days ago
+2
The good people of St Helena might disagree.
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jimicus2 days ago
+1
How about Rockall?
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Rod_ATL2 days ago
+1
Royal titles issued to US citizens are not recognized in the US.
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seedless02 days ago
+6
Like TACO cares?
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RezzleG2 days ago
+2
Obviously it isn't 'fixing' the Trump regime but if it repairs UK/US relations to the point where the US is not so unpredictably hostile to us, then that is a short-term win for us while we work on energy independence and a slow but gradual decouple from the US in the long term.
Whether you like Trump or hate him like most of the world does right now, you have to admit that having the US on-side is still hugely beneficial to the UK.
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noir_lord2 days ago
+8
> realise that we are also exposed to the US economy/tech in ways that are near existential (that's a fuckup of the past).
Yes, that is what I noted.
> you have to admit that having the US on-side is still hugely beneficial to the UK.
Not really, I actually think the US is net negative to the UK, it's just our economies are so intertwined we can't tell them to f*** off without wrecking ourselves, so instead we mitigate it as best we can, hence the King going to stand next to the idiot.
Is what it is, Realpolitik matters more and in reality it kinda has to.
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Dingcock2 days ago
+1
The US is the largest importer in the world. Germany imports less than half what the US does. The US imports more than 10% of total world imports. The US is also the UKs largest trading partner by far and by far the country the UK has the largest trade balance surplus with. It's hugely beneficial to the UK.
Access to the US is hugely beneficial to any exporting country, including the UK.
I would love for my own country to move away from this but it's going to be painful, and then what ? It's not like you can easily replace access to the US market.
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noir_lord2 days ago
+5
We take the French route, we trade but we also don’t let them cross lines.
Our market is valuable to them as well, if you include tech and services it’s huge.
The problem currently is weaponising that doesn’t work because that assumes both sides are rational actors and one side is irrational.
In the meantime we start making decisions that are best for *our* interests and Europe.
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Dingcock2 days ago
+1
The UK market is valuable to the US but it's not the same.
To the UK, the US is the #1 trade partner but to the US, the UK is #9. Also on the balance of trade, the UK wins as the net exporter to the US.
The value is not the same, at all.
I hate glazing the USA like this, but it's just reality at this point. I wish we made different decisions in the past but it is what it is.
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noir_lord2 days ago
+3
US isn’t our largest trading partner, The EU is.
They are large but a lot of that is financial/services and software/tech.
Frankly our dependence on their big tech is one of our major problems (and the EU’s to be fair).
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jimicus2 days ago
+1
If you look at international trade partners, you see a similar pattern across many countries.
The top 3 or so are massive.
After that, they start dropping off quickly. Even being in the top ten is no guarantee of significance.
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Dingcock2 days ago
-1
The EU as a whole is yes, I don't think that is a fair comparison to one country.
-1
noir_lord2 days ago
+3
It’s a single trading bloc, agreements are signed with the EU, it’s entirely fair.
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Dingcock2 days ago
Sure the agreements are signed at the EU level, even if you want to include them I'm not sure being #2 really changes anything I said...
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Counterpoint-42 days ago
+1
You said it ' unpredictably'. Trump will turn on a dime so probably wasted effort but....we'll try!
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DFWPunk1 day ago
You think this will somehow reduce the likelihood of him being unpreditably hostile?
I don't think you've been paying attention.
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RezzleG1 day ago
+1
Did I at any point say that the kings visit will gatuntee the reduction of the likelihood that the Trump administration will be unpredictability hostile towards the UK?
I don't think you know how to read.
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SKULL11382 days ago
+1
It’s not like the King can have any influence on the govt’s policy anyway. The Labour Party decides until the next election, not the King.
1
mob191512 days ago
+2
Trump doesn't need to know that.
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BernardMatthewsNorf2 days ago
+1
I think he should go and be like 'I'm here in my capacity of King of Papua New Guinea.'
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rgvtim2 days ago
+1
It wont do anything of substance, but it will massage Trump's ego, which is the biggest problem the US has right now.
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noir_lord2 days ago
+1
Pretty much, it’s one of the more useful sides of been a constitutional monarchy, the king or queen is a figurehead head of state separate to the Government.
They’ve been that way since Parliament became sovereign.
1
Ok-Assistant43382 days ago
+1
At the end of the day neither of our governments care about us. They’re going to do what’s best for them personally
1
Intruder3132 days ago
+17
It will stroke Trump's ego at best.
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Dominarion2 days ago
+8
Well the whole US has been hijacked to serve as Trump's ego stroker these past 10 years.
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LincolnHighwater2 days ago
+2
That's pretty much all it takes, other than money. It's not like Trump has concerns other than his own personal gratification.
2
mob191512 days ago
+1
They're essentially the same to him.
1
Dominarion2 days ago
+15
Said king had to come to Canada to make a speech about defending Canada's sovereignty a year ago. His speech was a barely veiled diss on Trump.
I'm not sure he's keen to go to Washington.
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LittleSchwein12342 days ago
+17
I don't think the King is a huge Trump fan. King Charles is an environmentalist, Canada's head of state, and believes in democracy and rule of law.
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Dominarion2 days ago
+11
And surprisingly, for a royal, he has a thing for underdogs. He's the only former Prince of Wales who cared about Wales in the last few centuries.
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Maeran2 days ago
-1
An environmentalist who is popular with the Sauds
-1
noir_lord2 days ago
+2
> I'm not sure he's keen to go to Washington.
Privately I’m sure he’s not but that’s the deal, Royals go where the government “requests”, the Royals have shook hands with butchers many times over the decades.
They are a diplomatic tool abroad, I’m pretty sure Charles doesn’t want to go anywhere near trump because it’s absolutely going to draw more attention back to all the Andrew shit.
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YourAutoModsSucks1 day ago
+1
The kings speech wasn't even written by himself, he read out a speech prepared by the Canadian Government. The situation is kind of weird - I wouldn't like speaking someone else's words, but he had to because of weird diplomatic/historical reasons/power dynamics.
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Dominarion1 day ago
+3
Of course. It is even more complex than that. He have absolutely no authority in Canada, he's entirely figurative. The monarchy is kept in Canada because re-opening the Constitution to remove it would be a nightmare.
On the other hand, he's not a puppet either. These things are negociated. The speech is vetted and approved by the King's "team". Just setting the calendar of the visit is a power play. These things are studied and planned for maximum impact.
Two last things to consider, this was a golden opportunity for Charles to "pad more prestige points" in Canada. He read the speech the Canadian government prepared for him, but he did it with more intensity than anybody expected. The other thing is that the other comments surrounding the speech were his to make and, contrarily to the bland soup the Royals usually offer, he came out strong and emotional.
Look, I'm a Canadian-Quebecer republican (in the sense I want to abolish the monarchy). For historical and political reasons, I have no affection for the British Crown. However, I try to be honest and not partisan, and he did us a solid there. I'm also quite jaded and cynical in general and I was moved. I mean, he made a part of his speech in a solid french, better than a lot of our own politicians, he even made his french sound more Quebecois than France French. He's a devious old weasel, the b******, lol.
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YourAutoModsSucks1 day ago
+2
Yes, it's very weird. Similarly as an Australian we have the same kind of arrangement. We're left alone mostly, but occasionally get reminded we have a monarch who is separately and jointly king of a whole bunch of places collectively known as 'The Commonwealth'. He does seem to try and do the right thing, but is still far removed from being able to conceive the lives of his 'ordinary' citizens. I think is decent at heart, and grew up in a mess of a very opiniated and powerful family...
The USA lost the plot when their supreme court ruled the president could be beyond the law under some circumstances, and that was whilst Biden was still president. The whole point of the founding of the US and its laws were trying to avoid the very circumstances they're now experiencing.
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Burius812 days ago
+9
I don't think Dementia Don understands that the King isn't actually the leader of the UK.
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caitnicrun2 days ago
+3
Would 100% believe that.
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ElTejon_TheDestroyer2 days ago
+22
Then I say cancel it. In the UK we don’t want a relationship with a country that tries to tell us what the f*** we can and can’t do.
Come back after you’ve sorted yourselves out and this dickhead is out of the picture.
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Ben-D-Beast2 days ago
+5
That’s simply not practical, regardless of how broken the US is, it is still the foremost global power and we are largely dependent on them in many areas. Decoupling from the US will take time, until then playing around Trump’s ego is the best strategy.
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eggyal2 days ago
+1
> it is still the foremost global power
Trump is doing his very best to change that. Give it a few more weeks, and I'm not sure this'll be true.
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Calm_Chemist_49522 days ago
+8
This is a public service announcement: Trump has no credibility. Unless there is alternative independent reliable confirming sources, his words should be assumed to be fabricated. Stop repeating his lies. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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Bartimaeleus2 days ago
+5
Does he think meeting the British King legitimise him as a Monarch or something?
He seems to have this obsession with monarchs of other countries
5
ScottyBoneman2 days ago
+5
It's funny that people haven't touched on the key message here. By 'repair relations with the UK' he means him forgiving you.
5
Imperial_Bouncer2 days ago
+5
BBC King?
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jupiterkansas2 days ago
+3
Yeah, I paused for a while on that one too. And now I want to see the BBC KIng.
3
OddDot7242 days ago
+1
After reading the evidence against Harvey wienstiens junk.... I'll pass on random bbc kings for a while.
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government_not_ok1 day ago
+1
Ayooo!
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CowCompetitive56672 days ago
+4
The Emperor's New Clothes
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Idiot_Savant_132 days ago
+3
For *how long*?
Bone Spurs ain't renowned for enduring loyalty, so is the trip really worth the gas?
3
Illustrious-Job-63902 days ago
+3
A new president would do that too
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One_Handed_Typing1 day ago
+3
Trump usually has good things to say about Charles. I think there's a 1000% chance Andrew has dirt on Trump that he's given to Charles, and Trump knows it.
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KingAso882 days ago
+6
Kings brother is a pedo and needs to go to jail. Only way to change my opinion on the royals
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TruthSeeker18012 days ago
+2
Something I'm sure he is (privately) very supportive of, they have hated each other for decades even before Andrew was exposed. As it stands the King has done everything that is in his power regarding Andrew, anything more has to come from the government which also can't do much since there isn't enough evidence to prosecute and most of his crimes weren't under British jurisdiction. He is still under official investigation and the government is trying to get access to relevant information in the Epstein files but have thus far been denied.
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Standard_Program70422 days ago
+6
I wonder if he thinks his close buddy Andrew is holding it and Jeff will be there and it will be like old island times.. He's basically functioning like a stroke victim so it wouldnt surprise me.
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Sea_Awareness1502 days ago
+2
Not for me it can’t. Over america and definitely over trump. Would not trust the septics not to do this all over again.
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RichardThund3r2 days ago
+2
Whose BBC is he talking to?
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IngloriousMustards2 days ago
+2
Who broke the relationship in the first place?
WHO BROKE THE RELATIONSHIP IN THE FIRST PLACE?!?
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0rwellsWarning2 days ago
+2
Will literally do this only to be able to say that a King came to pay him respects
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Justmmmoore2 days ago
+2
Only if the king is a complete fool.
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cyberkine2 days ago
+2
We'll see how far the relationship is repaired after King Chuck tells Trump he needs to support Ukraine more and lean on Putin to see reason.
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scarab10012 days ago
+2
Not from the UKs point of view.
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ventin2 days ago
+2
So he could be detained and deported by ICE
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Varnigma2 days ago
+2
Why even come here? Just snub him. As an American I'd support that 100%.
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OldLondon1 day ago
+2
No it won’t a shit ton of Americans are complicit in this bullshit extravaganza
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jabbytabby1 day ago
+2
It gives a new meaning to "Close your eyes and think of England."
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RoosterBurns1 day ago
+2
Only if he meets Trump the same way Truss met the Queen
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cardew-vascular2 days ago
+1
It could help Canada. Trumps attitude shifts with Canada everytime he talks to the king, so this could help us when it comes to the review of our free trade agreement.
It's probably going to do shit all for the UK/US relationship but it could help get the US to back down on some of their rhetoric with Canada.
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Iamarealbouy2 days ago
+1
The mad king wants the old king to come and kiss his ring.
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1_g0round2 days ago
+1
yeah thanks for f****** it up to begin with
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-DeadpooI-2 days ago
+1
If the king of England assassinates the president of the United States what side would Gerrard Butler be on in the ensuing 90 minutes of action?
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Vinegarinmyeye2 days ago
+3
I had this hypothetical on my mind when they announced this visit too (without the Gerrard Butler bit).
Charlie walks into the oval office, draws a sword and decapitates Trump... What happens next?
There'd be some VERY pissed off Americans, but the rest of the world would be cheering. (Including a fair number of non-pissed-off Americans I'd imagine).
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chodgson6252 days ago
+1
Let’s all imagine for a moment that Chuck The Hippy talks Trump into an early retirement on a Scottish golf course.
The royals are trained to at least attempt diplomatic coups like this, let’s just hope for the sake of the world that actually happens
(No I don’t think it will either)
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Counterpoint-42 days ago
+1
The poor king! Being civil to a senile child rapist egged on by his cabinet of yes men is more than I could do. Queen Elizabeth must have given him strong fortitude genes!
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BlueHeartbeat2 days ago
+1
He's such a simple guy, it's actually incredible how many people read deep strategies into what he does.
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CleverDad2 days ago
+1
By "relationship" I assume he means his own personal opinions.
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Only_Dragonfruit_1172 days ago
+1
King Charles, call in a sick day.
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Mushroom_Tip2 days ago
+1
He has met Andrew many times. Maybe go see your good friend Andrew, Donald. Reminisce about old times raping girls.
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DFWPunk1 day ago
+1
I honestly believe he thinks Charles is a king in the traditional sense rather than essentially holding a cerimonial role with no true power.
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government_not_ok1 day ago
+1
I’m no fan of the king, but pls keep JD Vance away from him.
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Demonofthedark13131 day ago
+1
Two men with low morals who just couldn't be fauthful to their wives, yet they both refer to themselves as Christians.
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Puzzled-Maize-22411 day ago
+1
What kind of award or trophy does the king need to give trump for that to happen?
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crookdmouth1 day ago
+1
Don't do it Charles!
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notthesethings1 day ago
+1
Who’s the current big black c*** King? I assume Lexington Steele has retired.
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Significant-Ad18901 day ago
+1
With Trumps H****** Dance, which is his natural instinct, BBC wouldn't be any surprise to most of us.
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epi_glowworm1 day ago
+1
I’d rather see Agent Orange attend Questions Time.
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Partiallyfermented1 day ago
+1
Bullshit. He'll savour the visit and then it's back to slagging off Starmer.
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graeuk1 day ago
+1
might work for a week then he will just go right back to making threats.
waste of diplomatic effort.
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rockerscott14 hr ago
+1
Birds of a pedo flock together.
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entity219 hr ago
+1
What if we don't want it fixed?
What if we don't want to be associated with the embarrassment that is the USA until they put competent people in charge again?
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Moontoya2 days ago
A would be king cosying up to an actual Monarch
Both have plenty of experience with infidelity
One talks to plants, ones about as smart as your average plant
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