Don't they already have tariffs on China since he took office? Doubt it would matter at all because it'll only drive US prices even higher. Expensive oil, expensive goods, expensive everything
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Plaineswalker6 days ago
+221
I don't know if it's on everything, but the aluminum I buy at work has a 40% tariff on it now.
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datumerrata6 days ago
+125
Yeah, way to bring back manufacturing by tariffing raw materials...
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Prestigious-Car-48775 days ago
+25
Somebody has to sit Trump down and make him play a resource management board game. Something simple like Catan.
25
HookLeg5 days ago
+15
Anything more complex than filling his diaper and eating paste is too much for him.
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Prestigious-Car-48775 days ago
+2
Yeah, he'd be shoving all the green Meeples up his nose.
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ScoobyDoNot5 days ago
+5
“Give me all your resources, in return I offer NOTHING!!! Thank you for your attention to this matter.”
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cdrknives6 days ago
+40
Is it cheaper to buy thru Canada due to the tariffs?
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mav1946 days ago
+74
No, it doesn't matter where it's purchased from, matters where the raw material is from. Otherwise you'd just tranship anything to get around tariffs
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NegativeAd14326 days ago
+32
The vast majority of Canadian aluminum is produced from Brazilian bauxite. Very little Chinese bauxite is imported. In theory you could work around Chinese tariffs and get c**** Aluminum from Canada, but you’d have to give up the 232 tariffs that apply to all aluminum regardless of source.
Canada is the largest producer of aluminum imported to USA by a huge margin.
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Plaineswalker6 days ago
+11
Our work around right now is buying it from Turkey. They still have quite a bit of capacity.
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NegativeAd14326 days ago
+3
Are you referring to bauxite or aluminum? Two thirds of American aluminum imports come from Canada, and very little Turkish bauxite is imported into Canada (unless this is a very recent development I suppose, I’m not an insider…)
Don’t really see what workaround you’re referring to. The section 232 tariffs apply to all aluminum, regardless of origin.
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Plaineswalker6 days ago
+4
I didn't say anything about Canada. We are switching from Chinese suppliers to Turkish supplier for rolled aluminum.
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NegativeAd14326 days ago
+7
Right on, makes a lot of sense. I just wasn’t entirely sure what you were referring to, since you replied to a comment entirely about Canada and partially about bauxite with a statement that seemed not to relate to either of those things lol.
Thanks for answering.
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Lower_Cantaloupe19705 days ago
+6
The US has a 50% tariff on Canadian aluminum anyways, more than China currently. Trumps plan is to open hundreds of aluminum factories in 2 weeks (joking, but just barely).
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JamesTheJerk5 days ago
+3
Factories are useless and America doesn't need any of those. What Americans need now more than anything is a gaudy ballroom on the White House grounds for important dances at the expense of the taxpayer.
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TheWingus6 days ago
+3
My friend used to work for a seafood importer/exporter, they tried to get king crab from China, through Canada and got caught and had to destroy the entire supply
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Crafty_Original_73495 days ago
+5
Probably caught illegally, too. China is not known for adhering to international fishing laws.
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KorgothOfBarbaria6 days ago
+1
Canada mines and refines aluminum.
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Potates426 days ago
+12
You can't mine aluminum, it doesn't exist in nature in metallic form. It's refined from bauxite. Canada smelts aluminum from it by imports.
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SadZealot6 days ago
+8
I don't think Canada has any significant bauxite production. What we do have is a ton of c**** hydroelectric power to melt down things so it's a good match all around
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PrivatePilot96 days ago
+9
Except when Trump decides to tariff the shit out of Canadian aluminum in an effort to “fix” an industry in the USA that didn’t have & never will likely will have the capacity to replace it. Nobody is building giant smelters to make more expensive product when they know that these sectoral tariffs will eventually go away, so in the meantime, American consumers just get screwed harder with higher prices.
Winning?
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Potates426 days ago
+3
Canada has zero bauxite production. Bauxite isn't found in Canada, smelters rely entirely on imports from Guinea, Brazil, and China.
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Serapth6 days ago
+4
No, *but*...
[Project Thor](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/thor-project-alumina-viability-9.7068026) in Saskatoon is *very* intriguing for domestic Canadian aluminum development. With 6.8 billion tonnes of alumina discovered. It's not technically bauxite but polymetallic black shale (as per article).
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phluidity6 days ago
+2
Canada mines very little bauxite. What we do have is a ton of ability to refine it, because that requires copious quantities of energy, and especially in Quebec, we have lots of available hydroelectricity.
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perotech6 days ago
+6
Based on 2023 data, the US imported roughly the same from both China and Canada, about a billion kilograms (2.2 billion pounds) each.
Good thing there are tariffs on both countries....
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absat415 days ago
+9
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Kataphractoi6 days ago
+17
China didn't blink and calmly sipped tea when Trump threatened 250% tariffs last year. They're not going to get out of bed on 50%.
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MalaproposMalefactor6 days ago
+13
don't tell Trump about the idea of tariffs on tariffs!!!!
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AxiomaticSuppository6 days ago
+8
Didn't Trump already get into a tariff escalation war with China, and Xi just laughed each time and said "okay, I double the tariffs China has on the US"?
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Caucasian_Fury5 days ago
+5
Yes and Trump TACO'd every time.
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ty_xy6 days ago
+14
All china will do is cut rare earth exports and maybe blockade Taiwan, cutting semiconductor exports to the USA.
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k4kobe6 days ago
+2
Please don’t.. I’m literally visiting Taiwan in a week 😭😭😭
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GerryManDarling5 days ago
+3
Nothing to worry about. Xi just fired all his top generals. China will be 100% peaceful for a few months.
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Settra_Rulez5 days ago
+3
Probably a year or two at least. Many of the officers that were purged for corruption were his appointees. He needs to take a good deal of time to make sure the replacements aren’t incompetent or susceptible to bribery before having any confidence in military readiness.
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david09905 days ago
+8
He's flailing so hard right now. Literally could have just come into office, kept competent people in the various leadership role and slept through the 4 years tbh. No, had to line his and his buddies pockets at everyone else's expense.
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FatherOften6 days ago
+3
Currently you pay this.
25% from 2018 + 30% 2025 + derivatives taxes on certain metals 50% 2025 + possible 25% more from a week ago.
Combined its a lot.
Now he wants 50% thrown on top????
I don't think he knows what's in place.
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theddj6 days ago
+3
They tried to increase tariffs on China early in the administration, but the Chinese pulled their rare earths, and they settled on a very low number.
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radiohead-nerd6 days ago
+5
We’re going to tariff harder this time!!!
It would seem we’re heading toward the even greater depression folks. All countries need to do now is stop buying US Treasuries and lets us collapse on ourselves and its already happening.
Foreign holders now own about 30% of publicly held U.S. debt, down from nearly 50% in the early 2010s. Several major economies, China, India, and Brazil, have been reducing their Treasury holdings, continuing a longer-term trend away from U.S. government debt.
To attract buyers the yield must rise and that means higher borrowing costs across the board for Americans.
Which all of this seems intentional and by design. I believe, and I’m not the only one, they want to collapse the dollar to a digital currency that they can turn on/off for citizens to silence opposition. Revelations Mark of the wild beast kind of stuff.
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randomstring098776 days ago
+3
If you don’t stop hitting me, I’m going to start hitting myself.
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Oompa_Lipa6 days ago
+3
Expensive unnecessary war
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LowResGamr5 days ago
+3
There's targeted tariffs, which congress approved. However, his tariffs that he keeps trying to impose were ruled illegal by the Supreme court.
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NinjaChore5 days ago
+2
Tariffs can go to infinity
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xeen3135 days ago
+2
Let's go TACO!!!
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e-chris6 days ago
+415
So there will also be tariffs on Russia, right?
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stay_fr0sty6 days ago
+166
You don’t bite the hand that feeds you.
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Kulban6 days ago
+53
He will stay down on his knees.
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OmiSC5 days ago
+3
*Solos in lo-fi filter*
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caligaris_cabinet6 days ago
+18
Don’t bite the hookers who pee on you
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Kulban6 days ago
+3
He will stay down on his knees.
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W313376 days ago
+35
No dictators get hall passes
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ty_xy6 days ago
+11
Xi not included, only Putin gets a hall pass.
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Trip_on_the_street6 days ago
+12
White dictators only.
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scarab10016 days ago
+4
Absolutely not.
Putin doesn't want that and that means everything to the Orange A******
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KZimmy6 days ago
+3
Tariffs don't grow on trees, if we want to put 50% on china, we need to take them from somewhere else.
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BowlerSufficient3436 days ago
+166
Last time he pulled that stunt the clown had to backpeddle quickly.
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Murky_Meaning21296 days ago
+72
China has so much leverage over this clown that’s been proven every other time he’s tried this and it’s actually hilarious he thinks the US is ever capable of winning a trade war against them.
Dumping US assets/debt to crash the market, permanently removing even more US farm products from their supply chains, full export blockade of rare earths to starve the US military and tech industries, etc.
Meanwhile Trump can only respond with… let’s see… making products more expensive for Americans???
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SoftlySpokenPromises5 days ago
+8
Especially now when American goodwill globally is shot to hell. We have very little to offer as a trade partner that China doesn't at a much shorter distance and more stability.
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kraftdinnerwithsalsa6 days ago
+71
You know what tomorrow is!
TACO Tuesday!!!
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Gasnia5 days ago
+6
I wonder if in the future if trump could take over for calling someone a p****.
"What?! Are you gonna trump out?!"
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[deleted]6 days ago
+8
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Quintronaquar6 days ago
+12
Oh I'm sure it has real effects on Trump's personal wealth
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gcwardii6 days ago
+2
That’s why he’s doing it. Every week.
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ChadFullStack6 days ago
+208
US still doesn’t understand how tariffs work. Xi will continue to win by doing nothing.
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stay_fr0sty6 days ago
+72
I’m sure Xi and Putin watch his Presidency with pure glee. I’m not sure how MAGA doesn’t see it, but after every decision he makes just ask yourself “Would Putin be happy to hear this?”
The answer is almost always yes.
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Anaptyso5 days ago
+6
It's been weird watching the Republicans go from a couple of generations of hating anything to do with Russia to bending over backwards to help Russia out at every opportunity.
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DoritoDustThumb6 days ago
+16
No, we do. It's just unfortunate that one moron in charge, doesn't.
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GoinLong6 days ago
+21
Unfortunately, it is more than just the one moron in charge.
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ty_xy6 days ago
+6
Unfortunately, that one moron put other morons in charge.
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Happy_Feet3336 days ago
+5
The bare majority of voters who put the guy into power sure as hell don't.
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JustChillFFS6 days ago
+3
China: Oooookkkkaaaaayyyyy?!
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brute-forced6 days ago
+2
Lmao, only red hats do not understand taxes imposed by their god
2
AnalTinnitus6 days ago
+120
Dear USA,
We are tired of this man.
Sincerely,
Every other nation on Earth
120
MN_Yogi19886 days ago
+36
I’m tired of him too but unfortunately 20% of the voting population made it to adulthood instead of getting aborted so here we are
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cause_f_u_thats_why5 days ago
+7
Feels like it’s time for the world to f*** over America? Can we put tariffs on them? Or sell all the bonds etc? Sick of this shit. I feel like the world economy was almost going in the right direction for a second before this trumpshitification happened.
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TheKnightsTippler5 days ago
+2
I feel like if there's one good thing about Trumps presidency, it's that he's united the world against him.
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hobard6 days ago
+15
Dear world -
So are we. Most of us are sorry. Some of us are trying to fix it.
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+12
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rawkinghorse6 days ago
+38
"Lemme put another tax on my citizens real quick, surely that'll work" -Trump
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SexReflex6 days ago
+10
God its exhausting witnessing this shit every day.
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justaguyinjoco6 days ago
+16
I thought tariffs got shot down by SCOTUS?
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bonyponyride6 days ago
+20
They certainly did. I think the max he can do is 15% for a few months without going through congress, and that 15% on China has likely already been in place since he lost the supreme court case and reinstated tariffs based on a different emergency rule.
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BoppityBop25 days ago
+2
Does not matter businesses will still have to collect it due to not being sure and alot of these tariffs are based on specific situations.
2
mc_estlavie6 days ago
+39
Why stop at 50%? Americans wouldn't be able to buy much at that point anyway, just go 1000% tariffs and show China who's the boss.
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totallysurpriseme6 days ago
+22
The Supreme Court let everyone in the world know that’s not a real thing that can happen so I think it’s a wee bit funny he’s still threatening it. It’s also funny he can’t find anything else to threaten other countries with.
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Zesher_6 days ago
+10
In his defense, his mind is so far gone that he probably forgot about the supreme court ruling already
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+9
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Ham_I_right6 days ago
+9
I declare my citizens will pay more for your goods ! Take that !
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+13
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resjudicata26 days ago
+12
Russia is sending arms and intel to Iran too.
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Pottopher6 days ago
+13
Trump's act is wearing so thin on the world. He has no teeth. No one believes anything he says. He's all talk. And when he does do something it backfires on him. He's a walking punchline.
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cn0MMnb6 days ago
+13
Did he already forgot he got absolutely crushed by china the last time he tried to tariff them?
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Cobrastrikenana6 days ago
+8
And the time before that
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LittleShrub6 days ago
+11
Dumbass only has ONE negotiation tactic and it's a shitty one.
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DryTown6 days ago
+11
"Don't support Iran or I'll punish my own people."
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According_Smoke13856 days ago
+4
Trump just f****** up the planet in real time.
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Standard-Contest-9496 days ago
+5
Make it 5000% China could care less. Proven time after time ya orange idiot.
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bobsaccomanno416 days ago
+4
“If you do this, I’m going to increase costs for Americans while simultaneously decreasing the value of the dollar. So I suggest you think twice!”
- Donald Trump, The master negotiator. /s
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Dear-Fox-51946 days ago
+5
Honestly I think most Countries are so fed up with Trump they don’t even care anymore.
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BaconISgoodSOGOOD6 days ago
+4
China: K
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monkeypickle86 days ago
+4
Tariffs as punishment only punish us, what's better than free trade? Trump supporters are f****** dumb.
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foomadelica6 days ago
+4
He's so clueless.
If you wanted to hurt China, you would hit them with sanctions.
If you put a blanket 50% tariff on China the first people you are hurting are the American public
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Winter_Criticism_2365 days ago
+4
Let's be real if you threaten China's oil supply they are going to come for you.. tariffs are shit useless if you have no oil to ship things with
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Doughtnutz6 days ago
+8
This guy is so dumb, all he can do is threaten when things don't go his way, he doesn't have the ability to see the bigger picture or negotiate a way forward. It's truly pathetic and clearly how he bankrupted so many things.
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therealcopperhat6 days ago
+7
The US sends $3 billion in annual military aid to Israel, but China can't ship arms?
He is delusional.
I suppose Iran Contra has been long forgotten.
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karevorchi6 days ago
+6
China can suplex our economy with a simple blockade of Taiwan, trump has no cards against China.
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Seik646 days ago
+5
Maybe that would accelerate the ai collapse. What’s mind bending to me, is that one manufacturer of the lithography machines used by tsmc is actually built in California. Wtf
5
Isotron6 days ago
+6
Yes. Let's start a war we can't finish.
Then let's increase price of oil on our people and the world.
Then let's increase the price if everything else on my people cause why not. Even shein will be unaffordable when he's out of office
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IlVeroStronzo6 days ago
+8
Like China gives a F
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AyDylo6 days ago
+3
China is essentially tariff-proof from the US so it isn't gonna matter. I hate this old man so much.
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jpiro6 days ago
+3
Shut. The. F***. Up. Already.
Cholesterol, do your damn job.
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BS623-9026 days ago
+3
It didn’t work the first time, or the second. Does he not get it? They don’t care. They’re laughing at him. Loudly.
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Thin-Discipline16736 days ago
+3
Why hasn't he tried to invade China? They have oil and things he wants.
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FafnirSnap_94286 days ago
+3
Lol. He's just signing and doing shit now that doesn't even have any actual legal standing nor enforcement.
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pitshands6 days ago
+3
You know, they changed the tarrifs so often I doubt you can they know anymore what's valid.
Doing business in an environment like this is impossible
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mrroofuis6 days ago
+3
Just go max level
250%
Then back off as the tariffs are about to hit
I've seen this movie before
3
Robespierre776 days ago
+3
It’s too late DJT. The die is cast. China is doing very well with all the US missteps. Whether it was intentional or not is open to debate.
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The_mingthing6 days ago
+2
He has fallen in every trap, steppen in every turd, yet his followers are still thinking they are winning.
2
viskonde5 days ago
+3
Damn i was missing the tariffs threat
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religionisanger5 days ago
+3
Wasn’t all this tariff stuff illegal in the end?
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CreativelySeeking5 days ago
+3
That corrupt f*** needs to be removed. Vote BLUE no matter who in the mid-terms. Let’s get this shit out of here and we can fine tune later.
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johnnytaquitos6 days ago
+2
is he doing the same for russia? or are they still in denial that russia is helping?
2
Quintronaquar6 days ago
+2
Oh is it time to manipulate the market again
2
Starskins6 days ago
+2
Zzzzzzzzzzzz
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Shirolicious6 days ago
+2
I hope they have concrete enough evidence or else we know how this is going to end.
2
Ble_h6 days ago
+2
Markets knows he can’t do it the easy way anymore. His dementia already forgotten he lost the court case.
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Sreg326 days ago
+2
Yet Russia was supplying intel and who knows what else to Iran to attack US service members... and no response from Trump. Can just imagine what Putin has on Trump
2
New-Equal80396 days ago
+2
Violence is contagious. Get this lunatic out of office before it’s too late.
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Mr_IT6 days ago
+2
For fucks sake, man.
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deschain_191956 days ago
+2
Still doesn't know how tariffs work.
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Moominsean6 days ago
+2
Because that worked before.
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Ok_Surprise_40906 days ago
+2
Didn't he already impose like 300% tariffs on them last year?
This stupid old man has one button, it does nothing, but he sure loves to press it.
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FatherOften6 days ago
+2
Ok just to keep count of all the Chinese tariffs in place.
25% from 2018
30% 2025
50% derivatives tax on steel, iron, and alum. 2025
25% derivatives tax on steel, iron, and alum 2026
Now another possible 50% in addition??? Or is it bumping the 30% up??
I'm wiring funds for a shipment today. Its already way higher due to increased shipping costs from dumpy screwing up the middle east.
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demoneyesturbo6 days ago
+2
They don't care, and he won't do it.
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SexReflex6 days ago
+2
That's not how tariffs work. Again.
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Howitdobiglyboo6 days ago
+2
When all you have is a hammer...
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TheDarknessWithin_6 days ago
+2
Wait I thought we were already at 1000% tariffs with China.
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maddog22716 days ago
+2
And then what? China moves to restrict rare earths again and it’s Taco Tuesday tomorrow?
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BMCarbaugh6 days ago
+2
Do what I say or I'll punch myself in the face!
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jim_cap6 days ago
+2
Learn another song you dolt.
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urlond5 days ago
+2
Oh no, in other news... Dump is a complete dipshit who will in doubt Chicken out.
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GnaeusQuintus5 days ago
+2
He forgot how tariffs work, again.
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Exact_Rooster98705 days ago
+2
What markets are we manipulating today?
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sharplight1415 days ago
+2
Well I don't think this is going to end well
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32Seven5 days ago
+2
One trick pony and the trick sucks.
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PoopyInThePeePeeHole5 days ago
+2
China: we don't really care
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drethnudrib5 days ago
+2
WW3 starts with USN interdiction of Chinese merchant vessels, which were actually drone motherships. The Fifth Fleet is utterly destroyed within hours, and we all die in a nuclear holocaust.
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Objective_Mousse72166 days ago
+3
China laughing at the orange pedo.
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Theverybest926 days ago
+3
Court allready shut down Trumps single handed Tarrifs as illegal. They hold nothing and do nothing. Can't believe he forgot. What a clown.
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SirKnottinghamVII6 days ago
+3
Like he's actually going to listen to the courts 😂
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pequt6 days ago
+1
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Lor_azepam6 days ago
+1
Cant he not do blanket country tariffs like this anymore. Has to be like 15% max and for a shorter period, or sector specific with no limit...
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leisurechef6 days ago
+1
Yeah good luck with that ya idiot
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Feisty_Blood_60366 days ago
+1
“Man threatens coworker with a rubber snake”
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coconutpete526 days ago
+1
I need a life filter that will block out "Trump threatens \[pick a number\]% tariffs on \[pick a country\]" headlines.
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pequt6 days ago
+1
I wonder why Your Brilliant Majesty of THE America doesn't use the element of surprise more often.
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Strangedreamest6 days ago
+1
I dare him to do it
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PRSG126 days ago
+1
Wait, I’ve seen this one before
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kindnesscostszero6 days ago
+1
What a way to tee things up for your meeting in China in May.
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Mala_Practice6 days ago
+1
That should help the global economy!
1
GabeDef6 days ago
+1
SC already said no to these childish tariffs.
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Calm-Professional1036 days ago
+1
He’s such a one pony show.
1
ishmadrad6 days ago
+1
Woof! Woof! Woof!
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StabbingHoboReturns6 days ago
+1
Do I smell another round of market manipulation?
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SGT_BlueJay6 days ago
+1
Because he wants Iran to buy from Russia instead.
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RMRdesign6 days ago
+1
It’s been awhile since he mentioned tariffs. I think most countries moved on to source things from American competitors to avoid Trumps BS. I doubt China cares at this point, they know Trump will cave in when he’s pushed.
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Overwatchhatesme6 days ago
+1
This dude is so f****** dense, he makes Americans suffer more for other countries actions during a war. And the thing is you can’t fully ascribe it to incompetence cause with him it could also be him setting up poly market bets seconds before this is enacted
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teebles226 days ago
+1
Didn't we play this game last year already?
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SirKnottinghamVII6 days ago
+1
Doesn't that just hurt the consumers more?
1
Broncotron6 days ago
+1
Didn't the scotus just tell him he couldn't actually do this?
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Severe_Air_43536 days ago
+1
They be tariffed as much as Canada , i dont think so .
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Pantsu-san6 days ago
+1
Haven't I seen this episode of the daily Donald Trump show before? Nothing but reruns. Best not renew for another season imo.
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OzTheMeh6 days ago
+1
Instead of a tariff, why not notify them that it becomes a military target?
1
Chimaera10756 days ago
+1
Huh, I thought it would have been more.
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invltrycuck6 days ago
+1
I think he's incapable of learning
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therealcopperhat6 days ago
+1
As last week's Economist title read, " never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake".
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