Trump Threatens to Pull U.S. Out of NATO Amid Fallout Over Iran War

I don't think there is much doubt about his affiliation with Russia, I am just surprised how he hasn't slipped up *once* about it, considering all the other shit he spouts/forgets.

Well, that and the fact that the UN openly laughed in his face after he tried to gaslight them over how well the US was doing during his first term. It was satisfying AF.

dude whoever recruited him should get a raise... it's pay off a thousand fold

So he'll sign an illegal EO and let Clarence Thomas decide, as usual.

... Why do you think any of that matters? First, like saying "NATO is a defensive pact", you're basically saying "these are the rules, and he has to follow them.", where we've seen time and again how effective rules are to him. Second, and more importantly, NATO's power isn't in its rules. It's about the expectation of the US's retribution. And Trump's actions mean that even if the US remains a member of NATO, any US participation is conditional, and uncertain. Leaving is just a formality, the damage has already been done.

Sounds like he wants to dip into the NATO fund and misuse that too 

on one side yes and on the others he equates us military spending with NATO spending

Saw a post the other day that made me chuckle. “When you realize the world is a resort for like 30,000 people and the rest of us are just the staff.”

Prices here are higher than ever. Since this stupid war began the prices at my grocery store (which were already high to begin with) have gone up about 50%! Not to mention the price of gas. Where are all the “Biden did that” stickers now?? 🤬

Our society is rotting. The system only works when people can be trusted to make good, intelligent choices with who we elect. If we Americans are too lazy, uninformed, uneducated, or uninterested to take elections seriously and do our research then nothing will get better. 

>His whole base doesn't comprehend that to build their massive war machines they need to import raw materials from all the countries they are hell bent on alienating. And exports. Wait until European orders for American military equipment dry up.

thats what greenland is about

Im perpetually torn between deciding is he really is as crafty and cunning as his believers think because his actions like this sure seem designed for his long term goal to destroy NATO - or he is just a giant narcicisstic man baby who only ever thinks about whats literally in front of him and like a baby just breaks shit without conciously deciding to do it. I lean towards the latter because he's so obviously stupid but there has to be some of the former because hes only failed upward with bigger and bigger failures, upgrading from bankrupting a steak business to f****** up NATO and a stupid war and you can't keep stumbling ass backward up the failure ladder in perpetuity.  Or maybe you can?  I dont f****** know anymore.

Agreed the damage to the US foreign policy, alliances, trade partnerships and assorted other bilateral and cooperative ventures, throughout the globe is staggering. The repair of this foreign policy debacle, will take at least 20 years if not longer. Politically the purge of the magas and their infiltration of governance, at all levels will take just as long. The “cancer” has crept into many levels of society, its systemic and as you say much of the trust and goodwill built up by generations of allied cooperation and partnership has been destroyed. NATO is a defensive pact. Accordingly all members of the pact will have to up their game and their fiscal inputs. Many already are doing this or starting to do this. The real job will be the repair of US foreign relations. Trumps support of Putin and the so called strong authoritarian image, has its former allies questioning the US governing system, that allowed trump into power in the first place and whether or not the same stunt, could be repeated. The loss of trust is huge.

>If Europe or NATO closes USA access to military bases, I hope it is a well thought out, logical decision.  To be blunt, if the United States is no longer a member of NATO and an ally to Europe, what business would they have to maintain military bases in European countries? The pendulum might be swinging hard to the other side, but the US has shown that the people are cool with voting in an authoritarian d***** canoe. Sticking with the US right now is a risk. You might get 4 years of peace and critical thinking, then 4 years of drama and ineptitude.

You could tell from Helsinki that Trump was owned