Conservatives sure love watching someone else abuse their tax dollars to manipulate the stock market
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[deleted]1 day ago
+42
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WatRedditHathWrought1 day ago
+12
The hypocrisy **is** the point.
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Tzokal1 day ago
+10
But at least they’re “owning the libs”, right?
/s
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spiral88881 day ago
+9
Could someone explain to me how this market manipulation works? Everyone knows that TACO. So, how do you make money with it? Are there some suckers who don't think TACO?
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cyberdyme1 day ago
+7
You start bombing and all manner of shit which pushes up the oil price no end - you then sell a shit load of future contracts - then at the last minute you say actually we are all good friends and watch the share oil price drop at this point you buy the future. The difference between the price is what you make.. it normally impossible to move oil price at these percentage level in such as short period of time (10 or more percentage points)
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thefrobinatorwins1 day ago
+7
The understanding I have been given is twofold:
1. The automated algorithms that do the trading look for keywords in headlines (more or less) and trade in milliseconds; truth doesn't matter. This happens because those who code/run the machines will be punished for "missing out" but not for being wrong so long as they follow standard operating procedure and follow the herd.
2. Of course everybody *knows* about TACO, but they also know the market will move anyways and they don't want to miss out (and they could be fired for missing out) so they trade anyhow, and it pays off because lo and behold the market moves. Basically: trader A trades because they know trader B is going to trade, and trader B trades because they know trader A is going to trade. And they end up both being right!
In short: day-traders suck (but they also keep the market liquid, which is good -- its all very complicated and dumb).
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spiral88881 day ago
+2
I understand the first one, although I would have thought that some coder would have put TACO in the algorithms so that they don't get suckered every single time when Trump opens his mouth.
The second one I don't understand. The whole point of market manipulation is that some people are wrong and lose money. Otherwise the manipulators can't make money.
So, if A sells because Trump says that he's gonna end a civilization, then he's going to lose money when the markets go up when TACO. It doesn't matter that B lost as well. Only C, who was convinced that TACO makes money as he buys when others are selling after Trump's threat.
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thefrobinatorwins1 day ago
+5
I think #2 is tightly related to #1. Its a game of milliseconds. So long as you react first (or close enough) on good news, and first on bad news, then you win. And I suspect there are enough people who fancy themselves day traders who do not run at the millisecond level who see the trends and try and get on board and just feed money to the system.
Point is they all know what is going on, but they also know the market is gonna do what the market is gonna do, so might as well try and get in early and ride the wave of stupid.
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pete_681 day ago
+2
It's not just the stock market. We're now going to have to replace all those missile and bombs. Over $10 billion worth so far. The defense industry is having a massive payday right now. (Total spending about 3x that)
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VegasKL1 day ago
+2
They see the corruption, watching with glee, and tell their young "you see, if you try hard enough to be an immoral snake oil salesman you too can rip off a ton of people someday" ...
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jjax20031 day ago
+32
What people need to realize is that the stock market is made up of not just billionaires money, but a lot of your money and by manipulating the market time and time again, the wealth transfer that's happening through these billionaires getting richer is Extreme and you're just slowly losing more and more of your own money while inflation keeps going up. The cost of living keeps going up and you're blindly being robbed because you're not looking right in front of you.
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Locke661 day ago
+7
As well as driving up the cost of living they are effectively stealing wealth from people's retirement funds meaning they'll have a poorer retirement or even need to keep working. In the wider view it's also driving up government costs and debt which will impact what politicians can do to help people in the future (unless they get that money back somehow).
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ZachtheKingsfan1 day ago
+3
Don’t forget the side of market manipulation!
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Argues_with_ignorant1 day ago
+1
I think we are at the "bomb them while negotiating" stage, like we've done a couple of times already.
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MichaelBayShortStory1 day ago
+319
Old man yells at the clouds. He's lost any credibility, and everyone knows you just stall him out becauae he has no spine
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Decent-Photograph3911 day ago
+83
Read the other day that he issues so many threats against other people or nations, he starts to forget about them after a while.
So the trick is to ignore or say something he wants to hear and continue to do nothing and fly under the radar, and hopefully stall it long enough that he’s out of office.
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3MyName201 day ago
+42
From Woodward's book on Trump's first term:
>**Gary Cohn**, who was Trump’s **top economic adviser / National Economic Council director**, allegedly **removed a draft letter from Trump’s desk before Trump signed it**. The letter would have started U.S. withdrawal from the **U.S.-South Korea Free Trade Agreement (KORUS)**. Bob Woodward reported that Cohn said he did it to protect national security, and that Trump **did not notice it was missing**.
Back in the good old days when "the adults in the room" child proofed the presidency for Trump.
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woodpaulusgnome1 day ago
+32
Wouldn’t it help if mainstream media wasn’t solely focused on revenue from clicks?
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porgy_tirebiter1 day ago
+10
That’s definitely Japan’s strategy
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Xeynon1 day ago
+5
Don't try to persuade him, let his dementia do the work for you.
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Aggressive_Chair14701 day ago
+4
its funny because that could just as easily be an onion article or the guardian
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Celtslap1 day ago
+3
This is exactly how I dealt with my crazy neighbour who kept demanding big changes to our apartment building when he was drunk.
(He eventually moved)
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jackcatalyst1 day ago
+24
He hasn't lost credibility with his cult members. They think he's accomplishing great things.
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MichaelBayShortStory1 day ago
+10
I guess it wouldn't be considered a "skill" if we could all critically think
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PersimmonWorried21551 day ago
+5
The cult MAGAs no. Conservatives, he is losing. I know quite a few people that voted for him times that are done with him.
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SatanicPanic6191 day ago
+3
Alex Jones is calling for the 25th Amendment and Nick Fuentes is suggesting his followers vote for Democrats, so he's losing some credibility.
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notnotbrowsing1 day ago
+3
Big if true (it's actually true)
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RandyMuscle1 day ago
+21
Iran has already won in my mind. There is literally no outcome that’s better than how things were before the war for the US.
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Slipsonic1 day ago
+8
Yep. Donnie Dipshit finally ran up against a hard wall that he can't lie, complain, or bully his way out of. He's all out of tricks and I hope he's so stressed out that it kills him.
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DexJedi1 day ago
+6
Finally? That first wall was Chinese. This is just the second.
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jjax20031 day ago
+2
But this one actually has real repercussions
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Pockydo1 day ago
+2
I'm convinced it's just market manipulation
He and his buddies made bank this week they wanna do it again
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Luciifuge1 day ago
+1
You don’t think he’s gonna keep bombing them?
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BrianWantsTruth1 day ago
+81
Someone’s gotta revoke his FIFA Peace Prize. If they let him keep it, it’ll have absolutely no value or meaning.
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thepeddlernowspeaks1 day ago
+29
Trump is really bringing FIFA into disrepute. All the corruption we associate with Trump as well - it really tarnishes FIFA's reputation.
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woodpaulusgnome1 day ago
+6
I very nearly spat my tea out. That would have been disastrous.
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doomeddeath1 day ago
+2
Didn't have any value or meaning to begin with
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PMyourfeelings1 day ago
+52
The beatings will continue until peace improves.
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Poor_Pdop1 day ago
+5
If everyone is dead, there's nobody left to fight, and therefore, everlasting peace. He's a genius!
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Optimus_Prime_101 day ago
+4
That's certainly Israel's plan for Gaza and now Lebanon.
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xJayce771 day ago
+2
Right. This isn't a peace plan, it's extortion.
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ElderSmackJack1 day ago
+2
The world will learn of our peaceful ways…by force.
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Ok_Expert_42831 day ago
+97
He is a moron, the orange faced piece of shit
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2LiveFish1 day ago
+6
Jezebel Julius Geezer needs a flushing.
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AnastasiaWookieTits1 day ago
+81
People keep saying TACO, but dude seems to be getting even more unhinged as time goes on. Can't assume he's going to keep backing out.
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+26
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Dry-Influence91 day ago
+6
Exactly, In this war hes fighting against geography and that is not the type of war planes, bombs and missiles can win. Every president in the past knew this.
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the_mooseman1 day ago
+18
Yeah but ultimately he's a giant p****, he isnt going to do shit.
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carbon_ape1 day ago
+24
I hope you’re right, but I don’t think this is true, I think there needs to be a “Biden” talk soon. Old man is not, has never been, and only increasingly so….not fit for office. He’s not even fit to get groceries let alone run the most powerful country in the world.
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the_mooseman1 day ago
+10
Could you imagine him getting groceries? He'd be so confused by the self service check outs and why no one has asked him for his photo ID.
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theincredible921 day ago
+4
He would be confused on HOW to get groceries or even what a grocery store looks like because I have heard he’s never gotten groceries in his life.
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MikeW2261 day ago
+2
I was doing some brush clearing (no I'm not GWBush) with my diesel tractor and hydraulic front loader and rear blade the other day and was thinking- trump couldn't operate a sort of straight-forward machine like this for anything. Just getting the bucket loader on and off the tractor's frame using the hydraulics and hoses, which, GASP, leak some hydro oil onto your gloves or hands, he'd just overload. He'd be out of it completely in some actual dangerous jobs that some Americans do day to day.
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the_mooseman1 day ago
+4
You think he knows how to change a light bulb?
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NathanialJD1 day ago
+4
diaper don is 79 years old. would you want to work with someone that age? and yet the us populace allegedly voted him into the most powerful position in the country.
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Shopworn_Soul1 day ago
+3
>He’s not even fit to get groceries
He apparently just discovered the word "groceries" about a year ago so yeah, I suspect he'd run into some problems there.
> "It's such an old-fashioned term but a beautiful term: groceries. It sort of says a bag with different things in it".
- DJT
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rayfound1 day ago
+3
The problem with this thinking is assuming he cares or pays some cost.
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S00THING_S0UNDS1 day ago
+2
He's not... It's going to be like this until he's gone.
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Secure-Swordfish-8981 day ago
+1
You can bet his demands are ridiculous as well. I'm betting he demands Iran cede Kharg Island, the Strait of Hormuz and some of their oil fields.
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m1nkyb0y1 day ago
+9
Hold up, didn't we already win/lose that war?
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lemons_of_doubt1 day ago
+3
We need to keep win/losing that war so that his kids can keep insider trading on what will happen next.
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jimibimi1 day ago
+43
The administration is full of the absolute biggest losers on the planet.
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motherseffinjones1 day ago
+20
Lmao of all the escalations he’s made have any of them worked? All it’s done is made the Iranian government look like the sane one in this war and I must admit that’s impressive. Go get them champ I’m sure it will work this time
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lonigus1 day ago
+10
Trump will f*** off to conquer Cuba and leave the GCC states with a stronger and hostile Iran than ever before. Art of the deal.
Its pretty much confirmed Trump in panic mode trying to desperately find an offramp, because Israel was clearly not informed of Trumps last minute decision. I would bet money, that those bombs that fell on Lebanon yesterday was ment for Iran and in furstration Bibi unleashed it on Lebanon instead before sugar daddy Trump smacks his fingers.
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SurlyPoe1 day ago
+14
POS from a POS family.
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Wanna_make_cash1 day ago
+7
Ah, it must be getting close to the weekend. There's a smell of market manipulation in the air
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Guava71 day ago
+7
Blah blah blah
When will this guy croak?
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GreatGojira1 day ago
+8
The only group of people dumb enough to believe Trump is the market and Right leaning losers.
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geologyhunter1 day ago
+5
Is the supreme leader still unconscious? If so, Iran can't agree or stand down until the supreme leader weighs in and this administration knows that. They are just setting it up so they can resume the bombings again and frame it as Iran not agreeing.
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come_on_seth1 day ago
+4
FIFA Peace prize w***** uses violence as new technique in negotiations.
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PoopsMcGroots1 day ago
+5
The beatings will continue until morale improves
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Front_Promise_59911 day ago
+15
Irans capabilities disintegrated.
But is it win for the US or not?
Even Catholic church against these attacks. We live in the interesting times.
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linfakngiau2k231 day ago
+6
Man i don't want to live in interesting time bring back the boring 90s
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Entire_Train73071 day ago
+4
to be fair, the pope/catholics are usually against every war... I can't remember the last time they ever advocated for a war in recent times.
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S00THING_S0UNDS1 day ago
+7
It's so hard to tell anymore. It literally changes every single day. One day it's the wiping out of an entire civilization, the next day it's peace talks and the next day it's another threat to start the process all over again.. it just doesn't make sense !
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IntelArtiGen1 day ago
+7
> it just doesn't make sense !
I think it's pretty logical tbh. I mean, for Trump of course. He always threatens everyone of everything to negotiate. He puts pressure. And then, no matter the outcome, he says he won. It's been the same since 2017, do people remember what he did with North Korea?
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macrolidesrule1 day ago
+5
Threats - tank market, insider traders short said market(s) and make bank
Priase - pump market insider traders go long on said market(s) and make bank
Everyone else - fucked
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SoulBonfire1 day ago
+3
TACO….Thursday?
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No_Conversation_93251 day ago
+3
Has anyone noticed that while he is back to Greenland, he totally forgot about Cuba?
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DutchShultz1 day ago
+3
When will the USA put its little barking dog under the house??
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After-Snow58741 day ago
+3
I thought they already had? Didn’t he declare victory just a few nights ago? 🙄
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Frency21 day ago
+3
I perosnally believe these are not "negotiations", but blackmails.
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brownlawn1 day ago
+3
Bombing for peace like f-ing for virginity.
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catbaloney1 day ago
+3
His words are all false narratives... Why would anyone trust a con man? He's a criminal in office, he shouldn't have been allowed to run for office in the first place. If you can't get a public trust clearance, then you shouldn't be anywhere near a federal building.
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WesleyTallie1 day ago
+3
The beatings will continue until morale improves!
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FatFarter691 day ago
+5
What a stupid son of a b****
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newretrovague1 day ago
+3
Has it been two weeks?
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ghost_n_the_shell1 day ago
+5
Whatever TACO.
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cvdiver1 day ago
+2
Blackmail. Bold move.
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huggingacactus1 day ago
+2
But will it be civilization ending?
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External_Counter3781 day ago
+2
I don't believe you meme
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MikeW2261 day ago
+2
He's always "warning" people and trying to sound tough. Why doesn't he cut the chickenhawk / Vietnam draft-dodger stuff and "DO" something for Americans, here at home... rather than TACO'ing overseas? And leave the world alone.
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InterstellarReddit1 day ago
+2
The beatings will continue until morale changes
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dgkimpton1 day ago
+2
I think it's time we all stopped reporting on "Trump says". Give him a time out, maybe he'll calm down a bit.
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Elegant_Emu9521 day ago
+2
There will be no peace with Trump in office.
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prince-pauper1 day ago
+2
There he goes again, f****** for virginity.
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mynipplesareconfused1 day ago
+2
We had friends over two days ago for tacos (unrelated to him) and I made extra so I could freeze and reheat next Tuesday, just because I knew he'd yoyo. Trump is so predicable, I can meal prep around him.
^(This isn't hyperbole. I made chicken tinga.)
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gamerdudeNYC1 day ago
+2
But FoxNews was saying how he’s the greatest peace negotiator ever?
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Malnurtured_Snay1 day ago
+2
Are these strikes before or after we invade one of all of Cuba, Greenland, and the Vatican?
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mbreaddit1 day ago
+2
Yes donny, beat them down until they give you their lunch money!
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Niftydog11631 day ago
+2
The beatings will continue until morale improves. 🙄
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exoriparian1 day ago
+2
So basically he bamboozled them into a ceasefire they were previously rejecting on the grounds that the US would violate it.
I'm sure that won't come back to bite.
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External-Example-2921 day ago
+2
Why is this such a stupid conflict??? US attacking Iran who gets help from Russia but US is also trying to be good buddies with Russia while it attacks Ukraine. Ukraine is trying to help US but US isn't helping Ukraine because they'd rather choose Russia.
Wtf is this US govt at the moment???
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Frosenborg1 day ago
+2
So where are we at now? Is the war on again?
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Tadpoleonicwars1 day ago
+2
U.S. military attacks stopped? My understanding was that they were still launching missiles at Kharg Island throughout the alleged ceasefire.
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pistoffcynic1 day ago
+2
Is Trump going to put a leash and muzzle on Bibi?
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Ok_Interest_90061 day ago
+2
I hope this doesn’t turn out like the TARIFFS. I was exhausted with that debacle, it’s on its off it 8000% it’s 5%
I have TES trump exhaustion syndrome
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Low_Engineering_33011 day ago
+2
If the supreme court takes away trumps ability to attack countries what will be his next technique for stock market manipulation?
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m1491 day ago
+2
If trump were smart, he'd shut up and let people forget about Iran for a while, while at the same time, trying to repair the damage he caused by bombing Iran.
But he ain't, so he'll do something even stupider than before.
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nosayso1 day ago
+2
They never did agree to his terms, Trump chickened out, what a pathetic farce this man is. It's beyond the emperor wears no clothes, the emperor is actively naked and shitting on the ground and still expecting to be taken seriously - and bafflingly so many people still do.
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Minimum_Run_8901 day ago
+2
He shouldn’t have signed the agreement saying Israel won’t bomb Lebanon before clearing it with his minders.
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ronweasleisourking1 day ago
+3
Fat shit f****** orange c***
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ArguesWithZombies1 day ago
+2
Attention bajoran workers..
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LowResGamr1 day ago
+2
Y he blaming Iran? Israel the ones refusing to listen
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JaVelin-X-1 day ago
+2
Quiet piggy.. before you lose even further
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mvw21 day ago
+1
"Just agree to my scam or I will keep bombing you."
Peace existed before Trump started.
There was a uranium agreement that was being followed.
Trump broke the agreement.
Trump and Israel started the attack.
Trump and Israel caused the problem.
Now Trump wants to also profiteer from the oil and from tolls on the strait. (and profiteer from stocks too, because why not)
Iran is just defending.
Iran was following the rules.
Iran got bombed.
Iran has to do something to defend, so Iran aims for important weak points. They aren't attacking people. They are attacking infrastructure that is sensitive to the aggressors, aka Israel and the US.
Everything else is just political marketing bs.
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Araminal1 day ago
+4
> Iran was following the rules.
I think that one is going a bit too far.
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flriverlivin1 day ago
+2
Peace did not exist, Iran was not following ‘the rules’…whatever that means. That said, US has no business being in the M.E. (Or any where else for that matter). We should be like Switzerland.
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AppearanceDizzy70061 day ago
+1
The headline actually reads - "If you don't do as I say, we're going to keep on trying to hurt you"
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Relative_Drop32161 day ago
+1
So glad i went long
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Electrical_Iron_11611 day ago
+1
Let me guess Friday or Saturday night is now going to be bridge and power plant night I have a feeling that post is coming
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humboldt771 day ago
+1
How about Israel?
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WestVin1 day ago
+1
“I’m gonna keep hitting you unless you agree to my peace terms”. Art of the deal indeed!
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jlkitty-161 day ago
+1
What about US agreeing to peace deal. It is a two way streak
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Nblhorn1 day ago
+1
Normal strikes or the civilization- destroying strikes?
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maqbeq1 day ago
+1
Strikes will continue until morale improves /s
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lorilightning791 day ago
+1
No one believes him. What a pedophile clown.
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notie5471 day ago
+1
yes but what strikes? normal strikes or infrastructure and civilian strikes like what was threatened already?
was this whole ceasefire just to get him out of his threat of destroying the "civilization". sure seems like a TACO coverup to me..
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Most-Artichoke61841 day ago
+1
Every single day is going to be like this.
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ledow1 day ago
+1
"The beatings will continue until morale improves!"
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New_Blacksmith_7091 day ago
+1
If anything, they are waiting for the other carrier to arrive - USS boxer?
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motohaas1 day ago
+1
Trump: we will waste billions more dollars if I don't get my way
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Salarian_American1 day ago
+1
OK grandpa, let's get you to bed
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FingerCommon70931 day ago
+1
Blame Israel. Trump should bomb Jerusalem. The deal included a cease fire in Lebanon & Israel has refused.
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russellvt1 day ago
+1
Well, it's almost Friday again, and the markets will be closed... so, no surprise, really.
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boot2skull1 day ago
+1
So, $4m per ship through the strait of Hormuz it is then.
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Hevens-assassin1 day ago
+1
*will continue
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Hexogen1 day ago
+1
It is almost time for the Friday closing bell bombings to continue.
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DrMcMuffinMD1 day ago
+1
It’s obvious that it is planned to prolong this war and drive oil prices up causing the US to lose the petrodollar, massive inflation, and Russian sanctioned oil to be opened up again. why would anyone be surprised by this and how do we f****** stop him…Congress and Senate I’m looking at YOU
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scytob1 day ago
+1
indeed, he thinks a negotiation is "you do what I say"
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KaliUK1 day ago
+1
Here comes the dump, get ready for 24 hours form now they pump, just in time for Wall Street calls and puts.
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clandestine-ideefixe1 day ago
+1
Getting whiplash for real
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SenseiKingPong1 day ago
+1
So terms are a one way street?
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Effective-Split-13331 day ago
+1
Aww I thought ol pedo don said they were moving on.
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This_Way_Comes1 day ago
+1
Interesting. Is he bluffing again
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UUMD1 day ago
+1
This time is different.
Trump is really Really REALLY going to strike if Iran doesn't agree.
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bigedthebad1 day ago
+1
Wait, I thought Iran had put forward the peace plan?
I’m sorry, I can’t keep up with which lie we’re selling today?
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slayermcb1 day ago
+1
He swore massive destruction and blinked. More than once. You cant have a reputation as both "the tough guy" and "the begger". He just showed Iran that hes begging.
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LegendkillahQB1 day ago
+1
I will bomb you to death until you agree to peace. I don't understand.
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snafu6071 day ago
+1
I can't take this shit no more!
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beavis6171 day ago
+1
Military strikes are on then off then on then off. We’re gonna put an end to their Civilization then no we’re not. TACO this then TACO that! Yikes!
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Eyemarten1 day ago
+1
The beatings will continue until morale improves
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Mike-SBA1 day ago
+1
If they accept he will come back with additional terms ! Trump will never be satisfied.
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Mofoman30191 day ago
+1
Ah yes Ultimatums. A masterclass in subtle negotiation by Trump.
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