Trump’s Order Restricting Mail-In Voting Rebuked by States

F*** Trump 🖕

Can it just f****** happen already? Edit: by it I mean “IT”

Fascist pig. The day can’t come soon enough.

I’d love a universe where he does get to do all this shit and still gets trounced in the midterms. Congress then reaffirms it all unconstitutional and ejects this pond scum once and for all.

Can this stupid fat f*** just have his heart explode already? I'm so sick of this pedo fraudster.

Trump might as well just appoint the next Congress. Why even bother with elections? /s

So, is this a way to get the it to the Supreme Court before the midterms? And since it’s probably too late for them to review it, he gets to upend any election results. Either by taking the ballots for "safeguarding" or by contesting them? Isn’t there an entire state that votes entirely by mail? And it seems like a perfect time to cripple the postal system too. I understand that Executive Orders aren’t law but it sounds like an excuse to screw with any results, get it to SCOTUS who have been upending law in favour of your current administration.

Correct me if im wrong, but an executive order doesnt mean shit, right?

For those of you unaware... this is a move done to steal the elections by making it harder for people to vote. Kinda hypocritical too.because don-pedo votes by mail too....

This was such a dumb/illegal move on his part. His voters us Mail in Voting. Troops to Mail in Voting. TRUMP HIMSELF does Mail in voting. Dude is so brain broken he's trying to f*** over other Republicans.

Putin with tears in his eyes said it’s the mail in voting. Lol

The plan is simple. This is their excuse for challenging results in elections they lose. They'll say that the state didn't follow his executive order, so the election cannot count and our elected representatives cannot be sworn in. Yes it would fall apart in court, unless they get an absolutely insane judge. But the point isn't to win in court it's to delay and confuse and muddy the waters while they entrench themselves.

Looks like Trump just found out that not everyone is a fan of his 'mail-in voting makeover.'

Our manbaby-king grows increasingly desperate, knowing that the blue wave is closing in on him.

>"The cheating on mail-in voting is legendary,” he said. “It’s horrible, what’s gone on. It’s very clearly covered, very, very clearly. So I think this will help a lot with elections.” trump just keeps saying this. There is no evidence this is true but he keeps saying it then he acts on his lies. This is the life trump's given us.

The U.S. Constitution's Elections Clause (Article I, Section 4, Clause 1) grants primary authority over the "Times, Places and Manner" of federal elections to state legislatures, with Congress able to override or alter those rules by law. The President lacks any direct role in regulating elections, as this power is not vested in the executive branch.

Waiting for the "small government" red states to chime in and claim that the EO is illegal and overreach...

He's terrified of the mid-terms. His only hope is to shut down the election any way possible. HOWEVER, I encourage everyone - especially those in swing states - TO VOTE IN PRESON. These fascists will pull every trick to not count mail-in votes any way possible - legal or not. If it is reasonably possible - please vote in person.

The time will come for all these bastards to be held accountable.

Release the Epstein-Trump files!

F*** Trump and F*** Republicans for selling out America!

You literally can't change the Constitution by EO.

Trump can take that order and shove it up his daughter's ass.  They both, most likely, would enjoy it

Voting day should be a national holiday and on a Monday, so people can actually educate themselves about candidate specifics over the weekend.

Arizona's Secretary of State nailed it when he pointed out that mail-in voting has actually kept Republicans in power in Arizona for years. This isn't about fraud, it's about suppressing votes in blue states like California, Colorado, and Washington that have successful universal mail voting systems.

Some things to understand about this order which are really disturbing. First, SCOTUS has already ruled that USPS is under no obligation to actually deliver your mail. That would include your election ballot. Second, in order for this EO to even work, states would have to send their voter rolls to USPS, which means states would have to comply with the order to submit their voter rolls to the federal government or the post office couldn't deliver any of their ballots. Third, vote by mail states (like mine) no longer have the infrastructure to just willy nilly switch back to in person voting. Its really insidious. Its designed to evade a lot of court challenges and still accomplish the goal of quashing mail voting for a lot of people AND simultaneously suppress the vote. I'm so sick of this shit.

So if you’re in a red state, they’re likely to comply.

It’s not his job to interfere or promote his own voting agenda from the white house. That’s a state right, you know the thing he kept screaming about during his campaign. The states are responsible for their own voting systems. Thats not his job. He needs to stay out of it and leave the voting process to the states, the way it was designed and meant to be. This is election interference and voter fraud at the highest level. He wants to stay in power and will do whatever illegal thing he has to do in order to stay in power.

I will be taking the day off when he dies. It’d be too good of a day to waste not be celebrating.

>The President also ordered USPS to put ballots in secure envelopes with unique trackable barcodes.  Just one of the idiotic parts of this order. The USPS isn't mailing ballots to people, they're delivering them. They're not going to put aside all of the ballots from every jurisdiction in America and repackage them in new envelopes.

Because it’s absolute bullshit!

He never heard the phrase lead by example.

Since the order is obviously illegal, I speculate that his motive is just to sow confusion and basically screw the whole thing up.

Impeachment now!!!

Idiot tRump has no say in the matter. tRump himself uses mail-in-voting, which he claims is cheating...but not him. The States run the elections, not tRump. His EO on this is completely illegal and has no power to change how States run elections............

They may not be able to stop it if USPS ordered ballots destroyed. States have no power over USPS. I wonder if ICE will be sent to steal drop boxes.

Get fucked

>“The cheating on mail-in voting is legendary,” Legendary? No. Mythical? Yes.

This should scare everyone. Trump controls USPS and has shown he is willing to ignore the courts. Not only that, but SCOTUS has said we can't sue USPS so holding them accountable when they screw up isn't even an option at this point. They basically can deliver or not deliver ballots based on their own set of standards.

"Rebuked by dem states." Fixed it for you. Supposedly every Republican state is backing it. New Hampshire is sitting out for some reason.

My county clerk will send out our mail-in ballots under budget and ahead of schedule, I promise.

Hypocrite

GOP stands for State Rights ... until it doesn't stand for anything other than Trump Power.

To the shock of no one. I saw it last night and didn't even react.

Republicans were once very concerned about the federal government controlling states rights. Not so much now a days.

Tick tock tick tock

I don't believe the intent here is to manage vote totals through disenfranchisement. I believe that Putin is coaching the White House through the steps of turning US elections into what Putin oversaw the implementation of in Russia and is used to keep him in power through the "Putin Majority" over the decades. After all, immediately after coming out of the meeting with Putin in Alaska last year, Trump started railing about getting rid of mail ballots, even though the meeting was *supposed* to be only about the war in Ukraine. In Russia, the crippling of mail ballots isn't about preventing them or managing the system in a way that only allows votes to be counted from supporting citizens. It's about managing the audit trail. When manipulating the tabulation and/or reporting of vote totals, things have to be believable enough that you don't have riots in the streets. (Unless you're North Korea, but that's another story entirely). If the results of in-person totals are like 60% in favor of Putin, but the totals of mail ballots are like 85% *against* Putin, this creates a situation that calls both segments into question, since ballot-type shouldn't make *that* much of a difference in the ratios. Basic statistics teaches is that decent sample chunks from a given population should largely be representative of the population as a whole. At that point, reasonable people would call for a recount and audit of both the in-person and the mail ballots. BUT, properly implemented mail voting provides for an easily verifiable paper trail all the way back to the stored ballots themselves, where voting machines (especially ones built by companies with vested interests in one party winning) do not. This means that when the mail ballot audit shows to be accurate and the machine audit has breaks in the chain of submitting->recording->tabulation->reporting that can't be physically verified, it makes the 85% *against* Putin look a lot more credible than the 60% in favor of him does. This leads either to electoral reforms that see the autocrat lose power, or a situation in which the autocrat now has to openly refuse fair elections and risk uprisings that could *also* see them lose power. So what to do about it if you're an aspiring autocrat? Destroy mail voting, of course. I'll note here that "destroy" doesn't mean eliminate completely, since that would cause heavy resistance in itself. "Destroy" here means to alter it in such a way that you can manipulate the paper trails itself. To do this, you need a way to filter out ballots of people who are likely to vote against you and make sure they aren't submitted in the first place. The first step here is to create a fairly reliable list of voters according to party registration in order to be able to identify ballots coming from people who might oppose you. >Sec. 2. Establishment and Transmission of State Citizenship Lists Whoopsie... I'm sure it's just coincidence that both the SAVE Act and Trump's new EO (quoted above) provide for the creation and use of "voter lists" that have never needed to be created before now, using every state's voter rolls... right? And I'm sure this has nothing to do with the demands by DHS and the DOJ over the past year to state-level officials that they turn over their voter rolls in order to "match against non-citizens" or whatever... right? Or the time they told MN that they'd stop the ICE raids that killed 2 US citizens if MN agreed to turn over their voter rolls... right? Anyway, next you need a way to effectively sort ballots according to whether they come from voters who might support you vs who might oppose you. In rigged systems, they force you to use ballots and/or envelopes with individualized identifiers on them so that they can have postal workers cause "processing errors" for ballots originating from households registered as voters of opposition parties. (You don't even need to have postal workers "in on it" for this to work, you just code the identifiers and/or the sorting software to throw an error and discard every 2-3 units with the "faulty" identifier on it.) But in the US, the only sorting done to mail ballots, whether automatic or manual, is according to 1) the address they come from and 2) the address they're going to. No other "identifiers", so this wouldn't work. *Unless* such an identifier were introduced as mandatory on all mail ballots. >Unique ballot envelope identifiers, such as bar codes, enable confirmation that only citizens receive and cast ballots, reducing the risk of fraud and protecting the integrity of Federal elections. Whoopsie again... look what's included in the new EO! Individualized barcode identifiers that would make it possible to filter submissions according to who was on the "approved" lists. Now, MAYBE these systems and process changes could be used to make sure non-citizens aren't voting by mail. But when we compare the **near-zero** times we've ever had that happen to the very real possibility that a bad actor in power could easily use these same systems to rig the system in their favor, reasonable people in free democracies choose a system like the one the US currently has in place over the one being prosed as the new system here. These changes move our electoral process much closer toward the level of national control that Putin exerts over his own system, and that alone should make this a non-starter for every single American, no matter which side of the aisle you're on.

> Trump’s ***UNCONSTITUTIONAL*** Order Restricting Mail-In Voting Rebuked by States FTFY Time Seriously, why the f*** is it so hard for news agencies to stop sane-washing this autocratic internal coup of fascist traitors and incompetent idiots?

That’s the states right!!!!

Florida didn’t get the memo.

It’s brazenly unconstitutional. Bet the Supreme Court will rule in his favor when it gets to them.