It’s funny cuz Erdogan will work with Israel behind the scenes, especially to arm the Azeris. And then when the tide of public opinion turns against Israel, he says this publicly and then still works with them behind the scenes. What a guy!
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PhantasmologicalAnus5 days ago
+34
Religious people being giant hypocrites? Never seen it before...
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Crazy-Intention88025 days ago
+6
I don't think himself as religious.. he is more of an opportunistic.. he knows when to use religion for his personal benefit..
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PhantasmologicalAnus4 days ago
+3
That's how I view a great deal of religious people.
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AccomplishedSoft13505 days ago
+16
Maybe a turkey shouldn't have gone around bullying its neighbors.
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Some-Concentrate32295 days ago
+29
Turkey wants to always play both sides, one side is NATO who isn’t going to suicide bomb a bazaar, but the other side is Islamic terrorism so it’s kinda a risky game.
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Protean_Protein5 days ago
+4
Are you intimating that he’s a Dönmeh?
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DavidlikesPeace5 days ago
+12
No conspiracy needed. He’s just an opportunistic ass, like half the world‘s tyrants.
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Pigeon_Breeze5 days ago
+1
Yeah, there's no "muslim countries" common cause here.
If Turkey has an allegiance, it's with the Turkic states, and they still have more in common with the Christian Europeans than with the Arab world (who they'd happily wall off forever if geography permitted it).
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yuvaldv15 days ago
+383
Muslim countries in question: Turkey.
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azuredrg5 days ago
+40
Naw, "countries": Turkey and north cyprus?
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slimeyy_025 days ago
+1
Correction: Erdogan's regime
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Royal-Hunter38925 days ago
+125
Everytime a muslim country faces a challenge or a problem it can't solve , they try to turn it into Or project it as a problem of all Muslim countries or muslim ummah and try to drag them using religion .
>Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan said on Sunday that Muslim countries in the region are concerned by a growing military alliance between Israel, Greece and Cyprus.
Turkey itself is a part of an major millitary alliance ( NATO ).But has problems with other countries forming their own alliance and also trying to frame it as a problem for other countries using religion.
This reminds me of how Saddam Hussein, fired missiles on Israel to provoke them, hoping they will retaliate and make the Arab nations switch sides from US led coalition.
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PhantasmologicalAnus5 days ago
+22
All "brothers" when it comes to denouncing the big Western meanies. But literally mortal enemies otherwise, in myriad cases.
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slimeyy_025 days ago
+1
Still most people don't realize that the leaders of these countries only pretend to care about their religious beliefs just to for their bigoted interests. Bold to assume Erdogan gives any shit about Islam, he just does this to keep his relevancy afloat.
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may_ur855 days ago
+7
Islamist and Jihadi's have existed long before Trump and others. You can trust them with wallet all you want, at end of the day you are still an infidel.
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Ultra_Metal5 days ago
+59
Islamic imperialist leaders concerned about alliance against Islamic imperialism.
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Street_Anon5 days ago
+170
and Turkey illegally occupies Northern Cyprus, that Turkey?
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itspronouncedbolonya5 days ago
-125
It's not illegal if there's noone enforcing the supposed laws
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faffc2605 days ago
+78
no, it's still illegal, it just isn't prosecuted or acted upon by anyone with the power to do so because it would be too much of a headache and "it's not our problem".
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itspronouncedbolonya5 days ago
-69
How tho?
If i write on a paper that kim jong un can't eat bananas, does it make it illegal for him to?
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faffc2605 days ago
+51
if you kill someone and get away with it, it's still illegal, you just didn't get punished. same logic here.
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itspronouncedbolonya5 days ago
-54
Sure, if just i don't
But if no one gets punished, it's not illegal
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wcsib015 days ago
+12
This is almost impressively dumb, way to go.
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itspronouncedbolonya5 days ago
I can do way worse
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wcsib015 days ago
+12
I don’t doubt it buddy!!
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itspronouncedbolonya5 days ago
For example, the earth is round!
(This is a sarcasm, the joke is that i'm saying it as if it's dumb, as a flatter would, not that i am a flatter)
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faffc2605 days ago
+22
iraq got punished for it in 1991? when they invaded kuwait and got their shit pushed in by the US military. so it's still illegal just the governing body who decides when to punish it is extremely selective and have competing interests (the UNSC)
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itspronouncedbolonya5 days ago
-8
That was over 30 years ago
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faffc2605 days ago
+14
yes, but it is still an example of what you want being punished, meaning it can happen under the right circumstances, and has in a couple others as well around the same time period in africa, so is still illegal. the balkans and kosovo are another example
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itspronouncedbolonya5 days ago
-2
Then where's the line, if one person got punished for it 50 years ago, i wouldn't say it's illegal, i assume you wouldn't either, so i think this depends on where you put the line fof it actually being "illegal"
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BorikGor5 days ago
+6
Illegal, as in **not** legal. As in not allowed by legal entity. As in written somewhere and agreed upon that you cannot do that.
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itspronouncedbolonya5 days ago
-2
Not very agreed upon tho is it?
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faffc2605 days ago
+5
it's agreed upon in most places outside of turkey, and turkey joined the UN 30+ years prior to the actions that lead to invasion and occupation of cyprus, and agreed to follow international law as established by the UN charters.
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itspronouncedbolonya5 days ago
They agreed decades before doing it, clearly they no longer agree to it, or atleast the agreenment has aged into irelevancy
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+173
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itspronouncedbolonya5 days ago
+78
I mean, tons of them seem very concerned about a one 10 million country
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Thurak05 days ago
+33
TIL: Greece has only 10 million people. I always had them saved in my head at 18-20 or so.
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rosenkohl16035 days ago
+15
The number of Greeks (greek speakers) was roughly 20 million during the Roman Empire so not a completely wrong number.
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faffc2605 days ago
+25
just several centuries out of date lol.
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itspronouncedbolonya5 days ago
+6
Whoa same
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XenophonSoulis5 days ago
+13
Turkey concerned that it can't bully Greece and Cyprus unimpeded.
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Mike_Milburys_Shoe_5 days ago
+51
I’m worried about Turkey’s continued occupation of Cyprus
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CampEmbarrassed1705 days ago
+25
Last year some Turkish Drone operators were killed by Indian bombing of Pakistani airbases.
If it’s ok for Caliph Erdogan to stick his nose where it doesn’t belong and send drones and weapons to attack India then it should ok for Cyprus/Greece/Israel to align.
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brickyardjimmy5 days ago
+39
Turkey just hates Greece is all. Erdogan would *love* to get into the invasion game and find a reason for pretext.
We live in stupid times where dumb ass forever leaders get to use vast resources and militaries to make their asinine wishes come true at our collective expense.
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faffc2605 days ago
+45
hates greece, hates israel as well. literally invaded cyprus and still occupies part of it.
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Tedmosbyisajerk-com5 days ago
+6
> We live in stupid times where dumb ass forever leaders get to use vast resources and militaries to make their asinine wishes come true at our collective expense.
It's kind of always been that way has it not? Thousands of years of the poor dying in some random dude's conquests.
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brickyardjimmy5 days ago
+3
You would think, at some point, the rest of us would tell these jerk offs that we've had enough in ways they couldn't fail to understand.
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sathzur5 days ago
+5
People in the past have done that, but then the people who get put in charge become the same as those they replaced
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EdiblePeasant5 days ago
+1
How do we not have millions of poor people die?
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Heisenbergg555 days ago
+19
This reflects eastern mediterranean competition
energy routes, naval positioning & regional influence are driving alignment
Turkey sees a coalition forming against itself (while it's a simple regional cooperation)
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jphamlore5 days ago
+13
The real story is an alliance to exploit natural gas, and maybe unite an electrical grid?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Triangle
> The Energy Triangle is a natural gas extraction plan between the three allied countries Cyprus, Israel, and Greece. The three countries agreed to use the gas fields Tamar, Leviathan, and Aphrodite; found in 2009, 2010, and 2011 respectively. About 40 trillion cubic feet (tcf) of natural gas were found between Cyprus and Israel, giving both countries an upper hand in the trading business within the region. Europe requires 19 tcf of natural gas a year and the Cypriot government believes that its Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) holds 60 tcf
https://www.jns.org/israel-news/israel-greece-and-cyprus-to-advance-energy-deal-after-trilateral-summit-in-jerusalem
> The much-discussed deal to link the three countries’ electrical grids—referred to as an “energy highway”—is to be carried out via the world’s longest and deepest underwater electricity cable, crossing the Mediterranean seabed and bridging Asia and Europe.
> The countries have also been mulling cooperation on an offshore natural-gas deal that could establish an energy corridor to Europe and beyond, including Arab countries in the region.
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PhantasmologicalAnus5 days ago
+25
Too bad for muslim countries. Why should anyone else care?
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Ultra_Metal5 days ago
+29
Islamic imperialist leaders like Erdogan really hate it when anyone interferes with their imperialist and colonialist plans.
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Apollonistas5 days ago
+2
Oh my god. Now turkey is going to invade even harder.
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bagpulistu5 days ago
+4
Turkey 90 million vs Israel 10 million + Greece 10 million + Cyprus 1 million = 21 million. Turkey, stop worrying.
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Greekdorifuto4 days ago
+1
Size isnt the only factor . The IDF is way better equipped and trained than Turkey . They even have the ability to bomb a country thousands of kms away non stop for a whole month
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HatCat55661 day ago
+1
But who will think of the Islamists?
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PorgCT5 days ago
Next land-grab ear lined up.
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SkylarAV5 days ago
-38
Nothing Crusade-y going on here...
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brandon123455665 days ago
-69
The reason is Israel is trying to justify a war with Turkey...
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