Who or what is "MK" in this context? I read the article twice and seemed to have missed it.
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JE101220 hr ago
+528
MK=Member of Knesset. The Knesset is the Israeli parliament
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Why_No_Doughnuts14 hr ago
+66
Yep, same as when the British and Canadians use MP
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kwed5d14 hr ago
+20
Who or what is "MP" in this context?
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Why_No_Doughnuts14 hr ago
+33
Member of Parliament. It is the person who represents your riding. The leader of the party with the majority of MPs is the PM, or the leader of the biggest party in the coalition if it is a minority government, which Israel is currently, and Canada was with Trudeau. Canada still technically is, but by one vote now and no other party has enough of a mandate to form a government.
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nvbtable13 hr ago
+29
Who or what is a "riding" in this context?
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Why_No_Doughnuts11 hr ago
+23
The territory the MP represents. Example: PM Carney is the MP for the Napean riding in Ottawa.
The party the riding elected though might change if the MP crosses the floor, which has been happening a lot lately, so much so they had to install a zebra crossing on the commons floor. (yes I know it was in the beaverton)
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stolencheesecake6 hr ago
+9
Who or what in this context is a “zebra”?
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YertletheeTurtle6 hr ago
+8
A mid '70s hair metal band, but that's not important right now.
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xtothewhy6 hr ago
+2
It's like a zee and add a brah.
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Kathdath9 hr ago
+10
The Canadian term for an electorate area.
Alternate terms include district and ward.
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kwed5d11 hr ago
+2
Thank you!!
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newrabbid13 hr ago
+5
I thought MK was Moon Knight
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CaptainTemuTeemo11 hr ago
+11
No, its obviously Mortal Kombat.
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Worth_Plastic568419 hr ago
+223
Mortal Kombat
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tochirov17 hr ago
+43
We should go back to having our politicians fight proxy wars by one-on-one duels, no champions
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Rymundo8817 hr ago
+7
*~~Reptile~~ Gentile!*
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golden_receiver16 hr ago
+5
Damn. Makes me wonder what Erdo's finishing move is. Perhaps a burning kebab into the enemy's throat?
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Romanos_The_Blind20 hr ago
+11
Was trying to figure that out. I want to guess based on the context it's a Member of the Knesset (Israel's parliament)
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eaglebtc7 hr ago
+2
Correct. It's the Israeli equivalent of "MP" (Member of Parliament) for the UK or Canada.
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Talonsminty19 hr ago
+43
Machinegun Kelly who else.
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Weirdyxxy20 hr ago
+28
The quote is quoted as from Eliyahu, but I have no idea what the abbreviation means either. Probably a title or position
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AlbaIulian20 hr ago
+49
MK - Member of the Knesset (i.e their legislature). Like how Brit members of parliament are MP's.
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Weirdyxxy20 hr ago
+9
Thank you!
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latherrinseregret18 hr ago
+9
I’m guessing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amihai_Eliyahu
But only because he’s a well know far right idiot.
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Weirdyxxy17 hr ago
+4
Their current heritage minister. So much was specified in the article
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isaacfisher11 hr ago
+5
(a bs position invented specially in this government)
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HisaAnt11 hr ago
+2
A far-right politician who likes to trash talk and encourage violence being the "Heritage" Minister isn't a good look for Israel. It sounds like an onion headline
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The_Artist_Who_Mines19 hr ago
+26
Milton Keynes
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composedofidiot9 hr ago
+2
Milton Keynes has been a strong geopolitical player for a while now
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Kind-Setting803620 hr ago
+21
Mustafa Kemal >!:p!<
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AZWheels8918 hr ago
+8
Melania Knauss
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IndividualSkill343222 hr ago
+1466
Trump, Netanyahu, Erdogan, Orban, Putin: All cut from the same cloth. Bombastic and delusional playing to the lowest denominator voters in their country and unable to form coherent long term strategies.
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seithat21 hr ago
+536
The strategy is to stay in power, and they're all extremely good at it.
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ConfederacyOfDunces_21 hr ago
+226
And a naval blockade of Iran isn’t something you just throw out in a truth social post. It would mean the U.S. Navy physically stopping ships going in and out of Iranian ports, including Chinese tankers. That’s basically pointing guns at China and daring them to respond.
Trump has started WW3
This was always my fear of his presidency, and he did it at record speed.
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barbariccomplexity20 hr ago
+68
A “claimed” naval blockade, what he says and what actually happens are rarely in alignment.
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Elukka21 hr ago
+85
What happens if there are 20 Chinese tankers coming out in an unarmed convoy and they refuse to stop? Will the US have enough warships, speedboats and helicopters to board them all? What if the tankers have armed Chinese soldiers onboard even if they're not supposed to as commerce vessels and they explicitely say they will fire on illegal boarders? Or what if there is even a single modern Chinese frigate present and they draw the red line right there? This is insane.
Within less than 2 years the US went from being the guarantor of freedom of navigation to a privateer flag. Really?
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soldiernerd20 hr ago
+36
They can do boarding ops anywhere in the ocean so they could board them one at a time. Tankers are sitting ducks. I'm not advocating for this, just answering from a tactical perspective, yes, they would have the resources to board all 20, because they would have days to do it.
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thecloakofignorance20 hr ago
+17
50 marines, 3 helicopters per ship
I suspect they could do all at once
edit: not supporting ANY of this bullshit, just saying
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Corpus7617 hr ago
+45
> edit: not supporting ANY of this bullshit, just saying
This is part of the problem man. You guys have this irrepressible awe of your military that somehow diverts attention from whatever other concerns are present.
Venezuela: Was it legal? What kind of precedent does this set?
>Who cares LOL, the US can do literally anything! I'm so impressed by Delta Force right now! No other military in the world could accomplish something like this!
Greenland: What the f***?
>Well, technically the US armed forces could destroy the entirety of Europe, also we have nukes. Not supporting btw, just saying!
Iran: What's the plan here? Why was a school targeted?
>Dunno lol, but the US air force sure is powerful, golly gee! AC-10s go BRRRRRRT
Iran 1.2: Should the US commit piracy?
>WELL, I'm just saying they *could* if they wanted to...
---
Point being, the original poster was worried about the possibility of WW3, not America's ability to capture Chinese tankers.
I'm not trying to jump on you specifically by the way, sorry if it comes across like that. I've just seen so many similar comments this year and can't help but feel like it's entirely the wrong thing to focus on. Yes, the US is very powerful, nobody disputes this. The question is not whether you could, but rather if you should.
I guess I just expected more outrage from the US populace from the suggestion of betraying and murdering alleged allies, not theorycrafting. (I'm aware that both can co-exist, especially from military nerds, but come on. This is serious.)
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thecloakofignorance17 hr ago
+17
The inference should be that USA has more than enough power to do incredible stupid, dangerous, not to mention evil shit
We are not disagreeing here.
Also, I'm Canadian. I'm passed outrage phase and into the defend and be prepared phase
that said, there are indeed to be plenty of Americans, significant minority, who just get pleasure in blowing shit up and just say "opops sorry" if it hapens to be a middle school
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Corpus7614 hr ago
+13
Alright, fair enough man. Sorry I misjudged you.
I just feel like a lot of Americans are easily distracted by this sort of talk, and that it contributes to making them believe they're literally invincible. (A bit like a drunk driver.) I think we should maintain focus on the disastrous long- and short-term consequences for the world at large (which includes the US and it's people), if we're to convince any of them to change course.
Probably won't deter MAGA fanatics, but maybe the disinterested fence-sitters at least. Praising their military will simply be interpreted as "WOOOOO, USA NUMBER ONE BABY!!!"
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NeedleworkerPure716212 hr ago
+2
If the helicopters aren't shot down mid-air of course.
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soldiernerd20 hr ago
+3
It’s possible. I don’t know anything about USMC structure and how many marines are trained to board ships so I’ll take your word for it!
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Jeffuk8821 hr ago
+15
Or France or Spain if they pay a toll to get ships through... hes blockading it against any ship friend or foe to spite Iran
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ntsp0020 hr ago
+24
No, he's doing it to spite every country that's not helping him. Other countries are cooperating with Iran and not only does it hurt Trump's ego whilst making him look weak, it also leads down a path where only tankers intended for the US and Israel are denied passage. He's doing whatever he can to disrupt every other country that's not getting involved to spite them and force their hand. He's counting on other countries not wanting to challenge a US blockade.
It's funny how just the other day he wanted to make this "illegal toll" a joint venture, and now he's blockading his own allies' tankers over it. If the US can't have Iran's oil, nobody can apparently.
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Dubalubawubwub13 hr ago
+6
No, is has *implied* WW3 to tank the market, then he will back off again in 2 days and the line will go back up. Then a lot of people with a lot of money will make even more money off of the obvious market manipulation he's been doing this whole time.
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okram2k20 hr ago
+8
he has been on a speed run to destroy this country since he was sworn in. Like an abusive partner you let back into your life after getting away from them for a few years.
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Sockoflegend20 hr ago
+4
He won't do it. It is doubtful they even could do it. He will of course piss everyone off and create what would be a major diplomatic incident for anyone else but it is all bluster.
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washiXD14 hr ago
+6
"all"...Orban - out. Trump will loose midterms and hopefully will be blocked or even impeached
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-JackBack-21 hr ago
+12
Their strategy is to keep themselves out of prison.
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NeedleworkerPure716212 hr ago
+3
Not so much Orban.
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comeallwithme12 hr ago
+3
Except Orban now 🤣
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konacoffie11 hr ago
+2
Well one of them was extremely good at it until a few hours ago.
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lurkANDorganize19 hr ago
+3
Extremely good at is a weird way of saying "completely incapable of empathy for anyone other than themselves, willing to hurt literally anyone, and believe that no law was written for themselves to follow"
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SourceScope9 hr ago
+1
Orban lost the election a few hours after you comment!
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JohnHazardWandering21 hr ago
+55
Look at John Oliver's report on Orban and then look at Project 2025. It's the same playbook.
Why was Manifort, an American, advising Russian supporting Ukrainian politicians?
I don't like conspiracy theories, but I suspect that there is a group out there pushing this agenda and it may have taken on a life of its own. Probably Russia, but maybe just billionaires.
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certciv8 hr ago
+3
Orban is out. One down, four to go.
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IngloBlasto18 hr ago
+2
> unable to form coherent long term strategies.
Well, if Trump is a Russian asset, then how can Putin be put in this category?
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soldiernerd20 hr ago
+5
Remember when everyone online was so certain Netanyahu was dead? lol
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Strong-Broccoli-803322 hr ago
+10
Thats not why netanyahu is in power
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HiHoJufro19 hr ago
+16
Yeah, he's just an annoyingly effective coalition builder. His willingness to stand by absolutely no position, and thus make promises to any party, makes him obnoxiously good at keeping power regardless of support for himself or Likud.
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isaacfisher11 hr ago
+3
Stand by no position but play dangerously with the extremists. Cutting anyone with half a brain and a working backbone inside the Likud that can overshadow him. Have an amazing ability to tell lies and throw anyone under the bus if needed.
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tonic61322 hr ago
+34
Enlighten us.
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jeaxz7421 hr ago
+4
Can we not just put them all in a room and they can fist fight to death w***** gets their demand fulfilled
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_HIST19 hr ago
+6
Can we also set the room on fire?
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Dysterqvist16 hr ago
+1
Erdogan isn’t much better tbh
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davesoverhere8 hr ago
+1
1 down, 4 to go.
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F705TY21 hr ago
+407
Erdogan and his ilk have to occasionally pretend to hate Israel to placate their lame extremely religious base.
Then they go buy weapons from and trade with Israel.
It's the same with the gulf countries.
People in power don't give a f*** about gaza really, they only use it to gain power over gullible people.
If anything Gaza annoys them.
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AdonisK20 hr ago
+81
Don’t forget how they basically invaded neighbor countries (Syria, Iraq) to create buffer zones in the same manner and the same “reasons” as Israel. Also let’s not forget that they currently occupy northern Cyprus.
Absolute hypocritical stuff.
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Drak_is_Right8 hr ago
+2
They use Israel as a method to get favors from the US
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johnbarnshack20 hr ago
+10
ilk? or does he have a moose?
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Yuven120 hr ago
+18
He is famous for his elk
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F705TY20 hr ago
+1
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DingleBerrieIcecream22 hr ago
+548
Isn’t this the guy that staged a fake coup on his own government?
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JarJarBingChilling22 hr ago
+185
Yep that’s him. Also the guy who’s plane circled the “rebel”-controlled airport & was allowed to land and leave in his limo lmao.
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Delicious_Clue_53121 hr ago
+54
Erdogan might as well be shouting at a mirror.
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Wonderful-Pause104822 hr ago
+337
Enough is enough. No more countries should get involved in this conflict. Otherwise, things will get out of hand!
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SkylarAV22 hr ago
+245
Let's see what happens when now US blockade meets a Chinese ship pushing through.
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Wonderful-Pause104822 hr ago
+68
If this blockade isn't just another headline with no truth to it; I have my doubts.
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dougandsomeone22 hr ago
+31
More market manipulation I'm guessing
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CoyotesOnTheWing20 hr ago
+3
I guess they bought puts on Friday before the market closed.
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Jeffuk8821 hr ago
+5
Ready for another taco Tuesday?
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VeryluckyorNot22 hr ago
+68
He is gonna let all Russians ship to cross it.
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HourPlate99422 hr ago
+47
Russia needs a lot of things. Oil from the middle east is not one of them.
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PradyThe3rd22 hr ago
+27
If russia wants something from Iran it comes through the Caspian sea. They don't need to go all the way around for it when they have direct access
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KawaiiQueen_66622 hr ago
+4
My first thought. Hell f*** with China once and the boot will come down.
He’s such a pathetic man.
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BodybuilderUpbeat78622 hr ago
+19
Are you implying things aren't already out of hand? Lol.
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gkn_11215 hr ago
+4
relax, he didnt say this recently, ts been two years. they are just now taking it out, dusting it off because its useful to build an image of imminent threat
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Phoenix_Maximus_1314 hr ago
+2
How long ago did he actually say this? Actually curious
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Historical_Owl_163522 hr ago
+6
The problem is unless the strait opens we’re all involved and can’t sit back indefinitely, how that plays out I have no idea.
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Musclecar12316 hr ago
+1
Turkey has never done that before… right?
Right?
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AccomplishedSoft135022 hr ago
+312
Regardless of how you feel about Israel, Erdogan is last person any of us should give a shit about.
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HarEr8922 hr ago
+169
Yup, he is a piece of shit. He puts people in jail for 100s of years because they could beat him in elections. He will never give up power.
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MarshyHope22 hr ago
+38
That's why MAGA love him and Orban
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Remarkable_Beach_54513 hr ago
+7
Good news on the Orban front!
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Critical-Usual22 hr ago
-28
Not last, he's still not as despicable as Netanyahu
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onarainyafternoon22 hr ago
+32
There's not really any reason to play the "who's the worse person" game. They are both awful, awful people in their own way.
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theanxioussnail22 hr ago
+59
No? I suggest you look up what he has been doing to kurdish communities for the past decade.
Turkey has also colonized Cyprus for 50 years now, but somehow, erdogan conveniently forgets. As does the west
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LilyBelle50421 hr ago
+15
Speaking of Cyrpus...
Turkiye's situation in Cyprus shares many similarities to Israel and Palestine.
\- Turkiye has been occupying Cyprus since 1974.
\- Turkiye originally claimed it was to "protect" ethnic Turks, who only numbered a couple 10,000 or so. Since then Turkey has moved 100,000s of Turkish settlers there to change it's demographics, which is now nearly entirely Turkish in it's controlled area, with the obvious goal of controlling as much of Cyprus as possible.
\- No other country recognizes Northern Cyprus as part of Turkiye.
\- Turkiye refuses to leave to cede the land back to Cyprus. A country that is tiny by comparison and has nearly half it's island taken.
Yet people don't seem to be aware of this.
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whereamInowgoddamnit21 hr ago
+11
Yep, people always whine about "well we're funding Israel to do", meanwhile Turkey is a NATO member and has been as bad if not far worse than Israel. If a 10/7 happened there you'd bet they'd be carpet bombing the Kurdish side of the country
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HarEr8922 hr ago
+56
He is. Erdogan puts people in jail for 100s of years if they could win against him in elections. He would crush protesters like the IRGC did in January.
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cf1821 hr ago
+21
If he is serious he can close their port of the BTC pipeline first.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-threat-enemy-oil-lines-raises-fears-over-btc-pipeline
> Close to 30 percent of Israel’s supply of oil flows through the BTC pipeline.
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> The port is the last stop on the BTC pipeline, from where oil is then shipped from the Heydar Aliyev Terminal at Ceyhan in Turkey to Israel.
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6453276222 hr ago
+35
More delusions of grandeur from the Sultan.
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Royal-Hunter389222 hr ago
+49
Since KSA started moving towards modernization, there was a vaccum in the leadership of extremely conservative and radical spheres .
Turkey under erdogan started to fill this vaccum and take the position of leadership in this sphere .
And the best way to gain popularity is threatening israel . Erdogan is an empty vessel , a politician who knows how to rile his voter base and distract from the tumbling economy. If he wanted to do something he would have already done it.
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FinAndy18 hr ago
+13
World is literally a shitty place because old fragile, power hungry, rich and religious old men want to stay in power. When will this shit end?
Stop voting old conservative idiots!
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reigenx9 hr ago
+1
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Ghorrit22 hr ago
+26
Erdogan got himself in such an impossible position between Russia and the EU in the past 5 years you’d think he wouldn’t repeat the same mistakes again. But here he is, not even in control of his own narrative anymore.
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Prince_Hastur22 hr ago
+22
Erdogan full of shit as always
He ain't gonna do anything. Useless dictator.
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XionicativeCheran12 hr ago
+5
Unlikely. Turkey want Israel to be the one to attack first to force NATO's hand.
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yosisoy22 hr ago
+54
I would love to see that, lmao, Erdogan always was full of shit
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HarEr8922 hr ago
+21
Erdogan is always good with the empty threats.
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throwaway_ghast22 hr ago
+25
Let Netanyahu and Erdogan have each other, leave the innocent people out of this.
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booty_explorer_25120 hr ago
+21
And after some Israeli official inevitably responds to this unambiguous threat by Erdogan, everyone will quote mine him and say, "look at how Israel now wants to attack Turkey for no reason!"
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Informal_Bag230020 hr ago
+10
This guys only policy is talking about Israel. What a looser
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Desi019020 hr ago
+13
Erdogan wants to rebuild the Ottoman Empire. He’s a lunatic to say the least, especially if he thinks he could take Israel by force
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Unfair_Resolution83618 hr ago
+3
This would be the end of nato
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ringtail_catz21 hr ago
+9
So Erdogan takes a breather from killing Kurds and thinks he has room to talk about what other people are doing?
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Over-Willingness-93321 hr ago
+11
Erdogan might not like the results of a war with Israel
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anonymous__ignorant20 hr ago
+8
Erdogan is a f****** madman we don't want involved.
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Debunk202514 hr ago
+3
Turkey still thinks it is the ottoman empire. Dumb ass thinking.
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Street_Anon22 hr ago
+3
He is a dictator, but the United States would never allow this to happen
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Bakedfresh42021 hr ago
+4
Hey we’re the NATO member who sides with Russia and helps start WW III, not you Turkey. Stop copying us
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Upstairs_Eagle_478020 hr ago
+2
So this *can* get worse.
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wowlock_taylan19 hr ago
+2
He is not gonna do shit. I know my own 'leader'. He and the rest of the dictators are just doing the circlejerk with eachother to stay in power.
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Jeanclaudegahdam19 hr ago
+2
We need a regime change in Israel
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Distinct_Cup_159818 hr ago
+2
Yeah, that would be Like the 10th time?
When it comes to Israel, Turkey is all Bark, No bite
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Glittering_Drama_61814 hr ago
+2
These news are fake. Erdogan didn't say anything like that.
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typicalbiblical19 hr ago
+1
Recep has an election coming up
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Own_Engineering_603111 hr ago
+1
That would be a big escalation
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Adam_Neverwas5 hr ago
+1
Fake
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podkayne30004 hr ago
+1
That’s the best thing about this era: Public officials’ sense of decorum.
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