The whole world is arming up. It’s not a good thing TBH.
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renegade_sparrowMay 9, 2026
+15
Post war order is collapsing (collapsed?). Everyone sees the writing on the wall, those that can arm up are predictably doing so
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Jazzlike_Note1159May 9, 2026
+53
There is a rabid dog in the neighbourhood. Turkey is taking a precaution.
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Rosti_TMay 9, 2026
+43
6000km cover more than your neighborhood, it covers the entirety of Europe and most of Asia
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Sieve-BoyMay 9, 2026
+10
Seems almost overcooked doesn't it? That's well into Siberia, East Asia and South Asia?
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BagelJMay 9, 2026
+45
Russia is a geopolitical rival and genuine threat to Turkey. Both historically and actively. It's a relevant range capability for them to pursue.
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Sieve-BoyMay 9, 2026
-5
I couldn't agree with you more, but that range is well in excess of most of Russia is it not? Certainly all of the most populated parts of Russia. It just seems extreme to me.
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BagelJMay 9, 2026
+20
Ideally you'd be able to strike all of your opponents land.
For most of the war Ukraine was at a great deficit since Russia could strike all of its facilities, logistic centres but not vice versa. This has turned around recently.
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kharathosMay 9, 2026
+4
Turkey has been re arming for a long time though, this isn't a reaction to recent events
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EquivalentOne241May 9, 2026
-24
Turkey was supporting ISIS and jihadist groups in Syria.
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ScumbagGinaMay 9, 2026
+34
The US literally armed and collaborated with Al Qaeda in Syria
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EquivalentOne241May 9, 2026
-16
No, they didn't. US bombed both Al-qaida and ISIS targets in Syria. ISIS leader Baghdadi was killed by US.
It was Turkey that was supporting all the jihadists, both Al-qaida and ISIS. Erdogan's son-in-law was buying oil from ISIS which funded their campaigns.
Erdogan himself is a radical Islamist.
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noir_lordMay 9, 2026
+11
US trained the Taliban and regularly fucks about with the internal politics of both "allies" and "enemy" countries.
If you are going to be accurate in pointing out where Turkey has intervened it makes sense to also put that in the context of *everyone large enough fucks about in the middle east*.
They've also overthrown democratically elected governments, supported far right regimes who had literal death squads and about a million other things.
If we hold Turkey to be the bad guy for the way they behave abroad, We really can't then say that the US is any better, at least not with a straight face.
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EquivalentOne241May 9, 2026
-15
>US trained the Taliban.
No, they didn't. US training mujahedeen fighting Russian invasion. They became Taliban afterwards not during US involvement.
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noir_lordMay 9, 2026
+5
Semantics but sure avoid addressing anything else in my comment.
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EquivalentOne241May 9, 2026
+3
Yes sure, let's go over the other allegations.
Didn't Turkey did the same in Syria. Didn't they trained and assisted jihadists who committed war crimes of killing fleeing Kurdish civilians, including a Kurdish female politician. They even recorded their exploits.
Turkey is a terrorist state, which is exporting terror in the neighboring countries, while oppressing their own Kurdish minority.
Erdogan is a dictator, who's jailed all his political opponents, including his biggest nemesis Ekrem İmamoğlu.
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noir_lordMay 9, 2026
+8
I'm not supporting Turkey's actions or Erdogan, he's very much cut from the same cloth as Trump.
I'm pointing out that if you are going to condemn Turkey for it's foreign policy you also have to condemn the US because as someone from neither country, they both seem to do pretty much the same things for the same reasons i.e. their own self interest.
Turkey does what it thinks benefits Turkey as does the United States, *neither* is the good guy now or historically.
America is just better at propaganda.
You also have to then ask really awkward questions like how have US foreign policy goals contributed to destabilising the middle east and contributed to the outcome.
As an American (I disliked intensely but he was right on this one) once said
> “America has no permanent friends or enemies, only interests” (Kissinger).
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EquivalentOne241May 9, 2026
+1
>I'm not supporting Turkey's actions or Erdogan, he's very much cut from the same cloth as Trump.
There you go, something I can agree to.
But, I wouldn't put US under Biden or Obama in the same league.
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thatguyoverthere64May 9, 2026
+4
I'd absolutely put Biden or Obama in the same league, it's just in your face nowadays.
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the_real_donald_dumpMay 9, 2026
-7
A few of them of various sizes and rabidness
It is what it is, a pragmatic step by Türkiye
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cytokine7May 9, 2026
-11
Lol listnook loves an islamist authoritarian “defending” themselves against enemies that are no where near them and have no interest in attacking them. I guess mostly just Israel though.
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ElectroShocker22May 9, 2026
+32
It's too round at the top, it needs to be pointy.
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DeepResearch7071May 9, 2026
+16
Aren't ICBMs primarily used as nuclear deterrents? I don't understand how Turkey would use them.
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Particular_Bug0May 9, 2026
+24
Preparing the means to use them before producing them
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IntelArtiGenMay 9, 2026
+8
I think Erdogan watched Iran and considered having a bunch of balistic missiles can also serve for deterrance, without the need to put nukes in them.
Now I also don't know how they would use them because Turkey isn't really threatened, but I guess when all your neighbors have a nice toy, you also want this toy. And having ICBMs means "I'm a strong country".
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zedascouves1985May 9, 2026
+3
Nuclear sharing?
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lou1uolMay 9, 2026
+6
They will probably put a nuclear warhead inside them and then launch them
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Fickle_Book_9823May 9, 2026
+14
Pakistan will give them one given how they have already helped North Korea
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DeepResearch7071May 9, 2026
+6
They don't have one though
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lou1uolMay 9, 2026
+10
Isreal dont have it neither 🙂
But more seriously, i guess this is a way of them saying that they will start thinking about having one, giving the geopolitic context
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BrofessorofnothingMay 11, 2026
+1
don‘t they already have like 50 of those deposited in turkey?
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brunporrMay 9, 2026
-8
Türkiye
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KalnbMay 9, 2026
+4
we’re speaking english.
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brunporrMay 10, 2026
-2
That is English
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KalnbMay 10, 2026
+1
that is turkish. english doesn’t have a ü nor does iye appear in english. You don’t call Germany ‘deutchland’ in english, you don’t call sweden ‘sverige’, and you sure as hell don’t call china ‘zhongguo’
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Fickle_Book_9823May 9, 2026
+15
How does Turkey test a 6000km missile without it flying over a few countries and NOTAMs? Unveiling is one thing but developing ICBM is different thing.
They also unveiled an engine which is powerful than one in F35 at the same event
Point is You cannot leapfrog into such technologies without baby steps and away from eyes of the world
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KuOyKabiMay 9, 2026
+17
They plan to test them at their newly established ramp based in Somalia, towards the Indian ocean.
The jet engine didn't fell from the sky. Development on smaller engines was already active for years.
One also should mention that there was and is a technology exchange between Ukraine and Türkiye since before the Ukraine-Russia war. Ukraine being experts in aviation engines and Türkiye in electronic and drone warfare.
So yeah it did actually happen in front of everyone's eyes but no one really cared I guess.
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Aleksey_FoxMay 9, 2026
+6
As far as I’ve heard they will launch it to the Indian Ocean from Somalia
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Boyslop_EnjoyerMay 9, 2026
+4
A Liquid Fuelled ICBM in 2026?
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OtherRandomCheekiMay 9, 2026
amazing pfp and banner
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Boyslop_EnjoyerMay 9, 2026
+1
ty twin
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urmumr8s8outof8May 9, 2026
+3
Wasting their money on something they don't need when they have no money to waste.
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Jazzlike_Note1159May 9, 2026
+39
They probably have a better idea of what they need than you random internet person.
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Sevastous-of-CariaMay 9, 2026
+45
A functioning economy to start LOL
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NedsamaMay 9, 2026
+15
oh you got it very wrong. the economy functions very well, its just designed to f*** the average guy in the ass, which makes up the majority of the country. and dont even get me started on whether turkey needs it, lol. both you and the guy above should educate yourselves before posting so you dont make fools of yourselves on listnook, lmao.
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TatarAmericanMay 9, 2026
+1
At least with all the dysfunction and corruption in their economy, Turkey was able to build one of the best international airports in the world and a functioning subway system in Istanbul within the past ten years. Meanwhile we've been planning a new tunnel under the Hudson for the last 20 f****** years and our bridges are falling apart.
edit: oh and public universities are still completely free, and they expanded their public healthcare
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EcmeltMay 9, 2026
What I am typing is **very** different from purchasing power of the individuals and the cost of living crisis it creates.
It was bad and this is one way to turn bad economy into "attractive" economy and grow strong while f****** the population so on a macroscale Turkey's economy in 2026 is actually not bad and functions exactly as they want it. It is attractive to investors again and is growing rapidly.
Economy works in wild ways when you change the scale/scope. You are only focusing on people, rightfully so, but in this context this has nothing to do with that honestly.
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IntelArtiGenMay 9, 2026
+2
You should look at the valuation of the turkish Lira. It's no offense to the turkish people to say their leaders aren't handling things very well. I'm not sure this missile is responsible for it but I don't think it helps either.
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cytokine7May 9, 2026
Yes Erdogan is famously good for providing for his people. /s
Islamist playbook 101: you never have to be a competent leader or fix problems, as long as you can convince enough people that the Jews that have no contact or impact on them are their biggest problem. I guess not just Islamists, since it seems to be working for the Spanish PM as well right now.
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urmumr8s8outof8May 9, 2026
+1
I'm not the one buying missiles when my economy is crashing.
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Accute-CETMay 9, 2026
+1
yildiz?
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BritishAnimatorMay 9, 2026
+1
A M.A.D system that takes out those that start wars and leave civilians out of it should be the new way to curb power hungry warmongers. Leave civilians and the planet out of it!
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amoeba_ambusherMay 9, 2026
+2
The erdogan government is struggling hard with an incoming and inevitable economic crash and the general elections are coming too while their popularity is going down, so of course they will start rattling sabers and making shit up like:
-6000km ICBM
-5th gen jet fighter engine
-turkish airliner
-massive petrol reserves found in black sea
blah blah blah
😂😂😂
don’t take it seriously
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Jazzlike_Note1159May 9, 2026
-12
Financial Times just put a headline saying Turkey made an ICBM that reaches mainland US, even though it clearly doesnt.
Financial Times openly tries to demonise Turkey and provoke/legitimise a war against Turkey. Israel has set its eyes on its new target. They have been furthering their alliance and military cooperation with Cyprus and Greece for a while now.
Israels doctrine is very clear. They dont want a functioning state in their region. They dont want government changes neither. They want states to deteriorate into non-functioning failed wastelands. Controllable unstability. Millions becoming internal(and external) refugees, state services such as hospitals and schools collapsing, terrorist organisations popping up... A very evil desire considering how many millions of peoples lifes get wasted. Imagine Syrians who still havent recovered...
Such an evil can only be committed when you completely dehumanised the other population.
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Fickle_Book_9823May 9, 2026
+1
Bro, it is Turkey themselves bragging and beating drums over a missile it hasnt developed or tested. This was for world to see at SAHA arms expo.
Turkey is different.
Developing and testing of missile with a range of 6000 kms cannot be done in secret. Even North Korea cant. So Turkey is bragging about imaginary stuff it doesn’t have.
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Jazzlike_Note1159May 9, 2026
+2
Its a deterrent. Deterrents are always good news as they are meant to prevent wars. Turkey needs to deter the rabid dog in her neighbourhood.
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