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General Mar 26, 2026 at 5:02 PM

Two men arrested over Jewish charity ambulance attacks released on bail

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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx235y7v100o

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lacegem Mar 26, 2026 +159
They got bail for a hate-motivated arson, with responsibility claimed by a foreign terror group, and the public still doesn't know their identities. Is that not unusual?
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Minimum-Geologist-58 Mar 26, 2026 +60
No because they’ve been released on pre-charge bail. That means they’re not ready to press charges yet and potentially even the police aren’t convinced they’re the actual perpetrators.
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redditallreddy Mar 26, 2026 +15
There is such a thing as pre-charge bail?!?
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dickgilbert Mar 26, 2026 +26
Bail in the UK is not the same as the bail you think of in the US system. UK bail is just a conditional release from custody. They can be rearrested if further questioning is required. Pre-charge bail would pretty much never involve monetary surety, and it’s rare after charges as well. US bail is money you pay to be out of jail rather than be held in it for trial. This suggests the police are not at a point where they feel ready to actually charge these individuals with the crime.
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Peterd1900 Mar 26, 2026 +5
Arrest in the UK is an investigative tool. Police will arrest under "reasonable suspicion" You will be taken to the police station and questioned about the alleged offence. Once arrested the police can only hold you for a maximum of 24 hours before they have to release you or charge you. (That 24 hours can be extended in specific circumstances which would not apply to what he was arrested for) If the police still need to gather evidence you will be released, There are 2 forms of release "Released Under Investigation" or " Pre Charge Bail". The difference is that pre charge bail has condition attached to it like maybe having to sign in at a police station every week or something The investigation will continue if more evidence comes up you may be arrested again so the police can interview about that evidence, You may released again after that
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Minimum-Geologist-58 Mar 27, 2026 +2
It’s always existed but was really hard to use until the law was changed in 2022 to encourage the police to apply for it and magistrates to allow it. So it’s been used a lot more very recently.
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DramaticSweet3412 Mar 26, 2026 +1
They did this with the train stabbing thing a few months back. They picked a random black guy on the train and arrested him for it. They just arrest anyone who isn't white and hope they got the right person. If they can't find the right person, they'll f*** that innocent person's life up, including imprisonment forever, until they do.
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mrjosemeehan Mar 26, 2026 +4
UK law is different. The police are allowed to require someone to "bail" out (on a signature bond, no money) individuals and mandate that they return for further questioning at a later date even when they haven't been charged with a crime. In the US, the headline would have just read "released without charges."
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DeepSpaceNebulae Mar 26, 2026 +29
Terror groups will claim responsibility for someone stubbing their toe. Without any other corroborating information on that I’d take that claim with a grain of salt for now Almost anytime something happens some group will immediately claim responsibility. Not long ago someone had a seizure and crashed their car and a terror group had claimed responsibility before the day was over
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verryrarer Mar 26, 2026 -31
*Terrorist group claims responsibility* Hey guys we can’t definitively prove they’re responsible so just to be safe we’re gonna release back into the public 🙄
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ThereIsOnlyStardust Mar 26, 2026 +12
I mean yeah, that’s how government works in a just world. The government has to clear the bar to prove that a risk is real in order to detain people.
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Bearloom Mar 26, 2026 +8
I mean, yes? Except it's actually "Hey guys, we didn't have enough proof that these two were the actual culprits for their pre-charge bail not to be set at a reachable amount, and they paid it, so they're going to be released for now. We really need to hustle to have more evidence by arraignment."
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Peterd1900 Mar 26, 2026 +2
>Hey guys, we didn't have enough proof that these two were the actual culprits for their pre-charge bail not to be set at a reachable amount, and they paid it, so they're going to be released for now. You don't pay for bail in the UK
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Bearloom Mar 26, 2026 +1
Well, I learned something today. All the more reason this isn't unusual.
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rick_ferrari Mar 26, 2026 +28
This is such a disgusting attack. I've lived in areas with those ambulances and they are FOR EVERYONE, not just Jews. Its a free ambulance service that, at least where Ive lived, is faster than a hospital ambulance. One of the more worthwhile charities out there and these fuckers burned them down.
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jktcat Mar 26, 2026 +1
Just need to release them real quick, they have another side quest.
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ncc74656m Mar 27, 2026 +1
I'm not a big fan of perp identities being released unless there's solid and incontrovertible evidence of guilt. The yokels leading the US federal govt agencies have already released or claimed several times various people involved with attacks or incidents, and been wrong on every account.
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Pyriel Mar 27, 2026 +1
Why do the public need to know their identities? Especially whilst the court case is ongoing. No That's not unusual, and it's obvious whym
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Peterd1900 Mar 27, 2026 +1
The court case is not even ongoing The investigation is on going. noone has even been charged yet
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cement_brick214 Mar 26, 2026 +60
I really don't get how dumb people are. Imagine if people went around attacking Russian restaurants for what the Russian country is doing to Ukraine. Weirdos.
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ObjectiveDark40 Mar 26, 2026 +142
Yeah. That would be weird.  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/russian-businesses-us-face-backlash-war-ukraine-rcna19155 https://www.axios.com/2022/03/03/russian-businesses-us-vandalism-threats https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/324342 https://youtu.be/Ryx0BGJUcAI?si=IKJxqUibO5U-r4k8 https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-report-hundreds-of-anti-russian-attacks/a-61148554
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LegallyAFlamingo Mar 26, 2026 +76
Missed the best one, people avoiding and leaving bad reviews for the "Russian Tea House" in NYC, even though the owners were a Ukrainian family.
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Healthy-Amoeba2296 Mar 26, 2026 +17
During WWII idiots vandalized my Norwegian American relatives property "'cuz, like, that's like Germans".
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bratbarn Mar 26, 2026 +27
Oh wow
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InevitableTension699 Mar 26, 2026 +81
You haven't seen what I saw in Canada when COVID started and randos were harassing Asian looking people.
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ObjectiveDark40 Mar 26, 2026 +40
I remember post 9/11 when Sikh people were targets for harassment, pretty sure one was even killed. 
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BoSuns Mar 26, 2026 +14
At a gas station right down the road from where I live and related to someone I knew.
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Th1rte3n1334 Mar 26, 2026
I find this to actually be insane. Must be all those conspiracists.
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InevitableTension699 Mar 26, 2026 +9
This was at blair station in Ottawa I saw an old white lady yelling at someone who could not have been more than 15 about how Chinese people were animals and what they do are barberic. Plus you hear all kinds of stuff happening by word of mouth too.  Bet you that b**** would never say anything about how UK and France and the US were helping Saudi Arabia cause a famine at the time in Yemen same year that have already killed 100000 children.
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absolutefunkbucket Mar 26, 2026 +8
Yeah I saw video of a black guy spraying Febreeze on an Asian dude on the subway it was nuts.
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cement_brick214 Mar 26, 2026 +9
Well precisely then, people doing that are stupid
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trollsong Mar 26, 2026 +2
Dont forget anyone Asian during covid.
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indefiniteness Mar 27, 2026 +2
Wow its crazy suspects of a suspected hate crime were released on bail and the story suddenly died! It was international news a few days ago.
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didsomebodysaymyname Mar 26, 2026 +10
It's like a rule you have to be stupid to be an antisemite.
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ss_svmy Mar 26, 2026 +9
Are we ever going to see names released? Does the London police do freedom of information requests? 
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Minimum-Geologist-58 Mar 26, 2026 +30
Yes as soon as they’re actually charged with a criminal offence.
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MethadoneMarvin Mar 26, 2026 +1
I wonder will the perps who did this be named? Or will their identity be protected?
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Spiritual_Loss_7287 Mar 26, 2026 +9
Yes - if they are charged.
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sfg-1 Mar 26, 2026 -6
I guess the "Iran backed terrorists" shit is all done with? Doubt they'd be getting released on bail.
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Comfortable_Monk4817 Mar 26, 2026 -10
No, you see there’s no possible way that Zionists would ever fake a hate crime, oh wait..
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haiduy2011 Mar 27, 2026 +2
What the heck is a jewish ambulance?
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SymphoDeProggy Mar 27, 2026 +8
A jewish charity ambulance An ambulance service run by a jewish charity
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aipac125 Mar 26, 2026 -7
So I guess everyone understands why people who conducted a terrorist attack, and have ties to a foreign country are released and about to disappear, right? You guys get it, right?
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Urzuck Mar 26, 2026 -39
Lmao biggest false flag ever, they get released on bail, their identities remain secret, they really think people are dumb lol.
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ExpressQuit942 Mar 26, 2026 -71
Would bet money it was Israeli nationals doing a false flag attack. These guys are probably already on a plane back to Tel Aviv.
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Minimum-Geologist-58 Mar 26, 2026 +43
I’d take that bet. There’s been zero recorded Israeli false flag attacks against the Jewish community or the UK in general whereas far left, far right and islamists do it pretty regularly?
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F0rScience Mar 26, 2026 -24
That’s not completely true, the Baghdad bombings in 1950/51 are pretty credibly attributed to Israel backed groups of local Jews. Doesn’t make the accusation about this particular incident any less insane though.
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bootlegvader Mar 26, 2026 +21
> the Baghdad bombings in 1950/51 are pretty credibly attributed to Israel backed groups of local Jews. By the claims of a Iraqi government that had regular pogroms in the decade before.
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apathetic_revolution Mar 26, 2026 +13
There are a couple of reasons the charges never made sense, including that there was already a massive exodus of Jews from Iraq *before* 1950 and that Israel was already struggling to accommodate all the refugees they were receiving at the time.
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reellifesmartass Mar 26, 2026 -28
You get what you vote for.
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nuke_em_danno Mar 26, 2026 -9
Yet We did not vote for a p3do politician
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